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Too Much Bickering
//since Haz is not from this country, he couldn't vote for Trump.//

The point is that he can vote in her own Country.

You made an impossible statement claiming he has done nothing.

Maybe his Country is ran by the Leftist Nazis that monitor his Internet?

The crazy Lefties passed a bill making a crime for calling someone by the wrong gender. Idiots.

Watch: someone will get off from a serious crime due a gender technicality.

//I did quote the source of Trumps quote. Google Christian Post trump wine and cracker. Look on the list for Donald Trump: 'I'm Not Sure If I Ever Asked God's ... - The Christian Post.--NurseRobert

Try it again. It doesn't pop up as you claim.

Are Current Events Bad
//Jerry, is this ALL you have?? My, you do make me laugh.---NurseRoberton 6/25/17

I doubt that. Seriously

Lefties don't have an sense of humor.

You can't laugh at yourselves, and pretend to be laughing at others.

You use laughter as a weapon to silence and criticize your opponent.

Saul Alinsky #5 Rules for Radicals.

It's getting old. You all really need to come out of 60's and try new tactics.

You all call everyone Racists but proven that the Democrats are the most racists party in America. Past Present and future since you all refuse to kick off Pelosi as your Grand/imperial Wizard

Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
Strongaxe, we are all created differently. Adam from dirt. Eve from a rib bone and us from a tiny sperm into a tiny egg.

God still breaths His life into us forming our souls.

But, Jesus was NEVER created. He needed a CLEAN VESSEL to thrive.

IC explains Mary's Salvation.

Mary was INFUSED with an abundance of God's Graces to prevent any sin. That's Scripture! She is addressed by title NOT by name.

Not created sinless, but SAVED from sin at conception.

//yet be all too willing to make that exception in Mary's case?---StrongAxe

Why does God Save one at 10 years old and another at 54 yrs old?

When can answer that question you will answer your own question at the same time.

Too Much Bickering
Haz, what have you done to stop the need for abortions??

Let me answer it for you..
NOT ONE THING....--NurseRoberton 6/25/17


Trump was elected by many solely due to his views on abortion with a promise of appointing an Conservative Supreme court Justice.

Planned Parenthood even admitted that Gorsuch's appointment was a HUGH BLOW to women's rights to abortion.

If Justice Kennedy steps down I pray Trump appoints Pryor from Alabama next!

Besides, how do know what Haz does to fight abortion?

Praying is NOTHING to you?

BTW, cite that so called quote of Trump. He didn't say that in StrongAxe's cited source.

Is Sperm Donation Biblical

You don't see a problem because you don't know the process.

They implant several fertilized eggs in hoping one or two will survive.

If all 6 or 8 happens to survive, they select 5 to 6 babies to abort AKA kill!

Remember Octomom?

She refused to pick and choose which of her babies to killed.

Thank God she kept all 8 babies.

Sperm donations are killing more babies than birthing babies.

Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
//making Jesus the first sinless conception, not Mary.//

Neither were first but Adam.

//what exactly does the title "Full of Grace" mean? I certainly do not see that it means "sinless".//

Why not? God's Graces isn't sufficient to make Mary sinless?

//Mary had no grace of her own.//

Who claims that? Not Gabriel.

//means "Full of God's Grace" or "Highly Favored". Nothing more.---Mark_Eaton

I think Gabriel knows that, he knows God's Graces are powerful enough to keep one from sinning.

Do you believe you haven't kill someone due to you and not by God's Graces?

Gabriel is just stating facts. Mary was blessed with more of God's Graces than you or I.

Too Much Bickering
//Trump said:Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?" 1 John 1:8
Who would you rather believe? Trump, or the Apostle John? I personally would rather trust John.---StrongAxeon 6/23/17

I don't have to answer a straw man's question because only one of your quotes is actually true.

You quoted John correctly, but not Trump.

Trump SAID drinking the wine and eating the cracker FORGIVES his sins.

You left out the words "..I try not to make mistakes."

Read NurseRoberts' blog. He quoted him using the word 'try'.

Are Current Events Bad
NurseRobert, the problem you have is that you can't see your own hate.

You refuse any authority. You are so mad at Trump that you can't see that your own party betrayed you not us.

The Right realized the RINO GOP betrayed us after the 2010, 2012, and 2014 elections.

So we ALLOWED a former Democrats (who saw the light) become our Republican President.

Not the Russians, we the PEOPLE.

He kept his promises. The man STILLS draws massive crowds 7 months after he WON the election. Did see him in Iowa?

Wake up and clean your own party and win some elections.

Complaining about us isn't cleaning your own house.

Our house is clean. It took 6 years, but we did it!

Do the same. Stop crying!

Give Up 501(c) 3 Status
//the use of "church," most christians believe that the churches mentioned at the beginning of Revelation are denominations.---Steveng

The Church isn't a denomination.

As a denomination isn't a Church.

Denomination means a part of a larger set or sect. Incomplete.

Church is complete and whole.

That's why we say: ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, APOSTOLIC CHURCH in our Creed.

Jesus NEVER spoke of His Church as plural

That's why Jesus said a branch can't live without Him the Vine.

Denominations tries to exist as a faction and not as a whole.

It's name explains that reality in itself.

That's why they are dying out. Not one Denomination has existed for more than 200 years.

Too Much Bickering
//I was referring to something he said on a different occasion. Google: Trump forgiveness---StrongAxe

I did Google exactly as you said and watched the video. He said drinking the wine and eating the cracker forgave his sin.

//His reponse: I try not make mistakes where I have to ask forgivness.---NurseRobert

Doesn't EVERYONE???

Note he didn't say I don't make mistakes. He said "I TRY not to make mistakes."

As I said before, you are taking Trump out of context.

I guess you don't need to try not to sin, but the REST OF US know we are NOT perfect.

After watching one video, I am not going to watch Cooper just to prove you are wrong. You intend to misunderstand Trump no matter what.

Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
//If this is possible, then there would have been no need for Mary to be sinless.//

Remember, Mary's title is FULL OF GRACE proclaimed by the Archangel Gabriel because she still needed to be free of sin for Jesus to dwell in her womb.

The Holy of Holies (Ark of the Covenant dwelling place) was the holiest place in the world.

Shouldn't Jesus' 9 months of life have anything less?

//Mary would ALSO have had to have been conceived by another sinless mother,//

No, the Trinity prevented the stain of sin to seal Mary's soul at the very MOMENT she was conceive.

//Eve was NOT sinless,--StrongAxe

Eve was conceived without sin but she wasn't infused with the same amount of abundance of Grace as Mary.

Too Much Bickering
//Yet Trump boasts that he never did anything he needed to ask forgiveness for. This means Trump either a narcissistic non-Christian, or someone so holy he's on par with Jesus himself. Many of his followers believe the latter. I find the former more plausible.---StrongAxe on 6/21/17


1. Trump DID NOT say he didn't do anything wrong. Watch the video again.

He said drinking the wine and cracker forgives his sins.

He might be wrong, but he ISN'T saying he didn't sin.

To say it forgives means he KNOWS he sinned to be forgiven. Remember that's the excuse you all use against the Virgin Mary.

2. Your options of his character off a statement he DID NOT say isn't very nice of you.

Matthew 7:1

Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
Cluny, they reposted my statement from the past.

I made that statement but it was a while ago.

Too Much Bickering
StrongAxe, as a Former Catholic I guess don't understanding or forgot about all forms of forgiveness as well.

In the Catholic and Orthodox Faith: drinking the Body and Blood does FORGIVES Venial sins.

Not in the Protestant Churches but because they don't have a Valid Priesthood. But Trump most likely BELIEVES his Church faith is just as good as the Catholic Church.

You and Nurse Robert took Trump out of context.

He was asked a question and he said drinking the little wine (because Protestants uses tiny vessels and crackers because that is exactly what it is in their church.) We don't use crackers so he wasn't making fun of the Catholic Church as most Protestants.

Too Much Bickering
//Trump's proclamations:

3. When I go to church and when I drink my little wine and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of forgiveness. I do that as often as I can because I feel cleansed.

Just what is Trump proclaiming?---NurseRoberton 6/19/17

Friend, why don't you answer your own question since you made up those proclamation?

You are too old for this and know better.

Cite those so call proclamations of Trump.

You had very were lengthy statements.
Copy and Paste your sources.

Or they are just as fake as the Washington Posts' Sources?

Doctrine Of Immaculate Conception
Gentlemen, IC means at the moment she was conceived from her father's sperm into her mother's egg, (Jesus'only grandparents) The Holy Spirit infused her with overabundance of God's Grace.

Saving her from original sin.
Because Jesus is an obedient Jew that needed an undefile Body to sacrifice for you and I.

God Saved her at her conception. That's why She alone is addressed by title by an angel not name. No else in the Bible. Go head and verify it.

Jesus follows God's commands.
since Mary body is only body Jesus will partake, it has to conceived without sin as Adam and Eve.

Stop Smoking Cigs
StrongAxe, the wall will pay for itself within 5 years from lack of use of services used by Illegals paid by American Citizens.

Do you know how much it cost for the Department of Education and local area to provide education for one child?

Add the additional cost of finding multiple Translators.

Next, the medical cost of treating all Illegals from giving birth to basic immunization shots.

We are paying for the wall 5 times over every 2 years.

Daughter Is Pregnant
//St. Monica received both her son St. Augustine and his concubine (who had a child by him) into her home.---Cluny

Cluny, you should have explained better.

Karen, Augustine was not a Christian and was 19 years old. His mother wanted him to marry another women.

Augustine wasn't even a Christian at the time.
His Mother was Christian and His Father was a Pagan.

She was kind to the Concubine because she was a Christian and not because she condoned her son's actions.

Augustine wasn't a Christian until the age of 31 and made his famous statement to God:

"Too late have I loved You!"

Augustine wrote 'Confessions' and acknowledged his sins esp. having a concubine as being wrong.

Pastor's Wife Is Controlling
//9. Jesus abolished divorce (a policy)//

WHAT? Policy. Another thing you made up.

Matthew 19:4-6 And He answered and said to them, Have you not read that He who made them at the BEGINNING made them male and female,......So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.

Moses is a man!

God also told Jeremiah not marry for His plans and His Kingdom

Jeremiah 16:2 "You must not marry and have sons or daughters in this ...

//11. Jesus says this law is only for those it is given to (a qualification)--StrongAxe

What law? That's why I said you are making up stuff.

Cite the Law stating EVERYONE has to marry

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