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Why Easter And Christmas
The Roman Catholic Religion that you know today wasn't in existence when Easter and Christmas was established.

Roman Catholicism didn't exist until about the 12th-13thCentury...
---john9346 on 4/17/1

You are kidding right??

pls explain?

Are you referring in the name of Roman??

How Is God Love

amen brother,

we have all sinned against Almighty God, yet He showed His love for us that He send His only Son to die for our sins. He loved us so much He had mercy on us sinners, who have sinned against Him. Now, that is love. Now, those who are not chosen, He did nothing wrong to them. He just didn't choose them. People don't like that, because He did not choose them. They say it is not fair that some were chosen and others were not, as if any deserved salvation.

God has the right to choose

---Luke on 3/16/17

---john9346 on 4/12/17

John, Luke:

Who are the ones who says, Why was I not chosen??

Who are the us that were chosen??

What Filioquism Means
There are actually TWO words in Greek that mean "proceed": PROINAI and POREVEI.

One can say in Greek that the Holy Spirit PROINAI from the Father and the Son, but that's NOT the word used in the Greek version of the creed, --

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/5/16

The Greek word use for proceed in John 15:26 and Rev 22:1 is ekporeuomai, to go forth, go out, depart.

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth G1607 from the Father, he shall testify of me:

And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding G1607 out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

What Filioquism Means
Without getting too complicated, in Greek to say that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son is basically Sabellianism.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/4/16

Early Church Fathers from the west and EAST taught that the Holy Spirit proceeds from both, as does scripture!

"And he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal,
proceeding from the throne of God AND of the Lamb." Rev 22:1

Recall Jesus words in John 7:38-39,

"He that believes in me [Jesus], as the scripture says: Out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. AND NOW HE SAID THIS OF THE SPIRIT "

BTW- The same Greek word(proceed) use in John 15:26 is use in Rev 22:1

What Filioquism Means
Jesus specifically referred to the "Comforter, Who proceedeth from the Father." He did NOT say "from the Father and Myself."

I'm sorry I'm having computer problems. Otherwise, I could provide the Scripture reference here.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/3/16

Let me help you with it,

And he did not say from the Father only as while.

"But when the Paraclete comes, whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he shall give testimony of me. (15:26)"

Believe The Classic Creeds
the church fathers place "Scripture." as their Infallible Authority for Faith and Practice...

I apologize
---john9346 on 11/21/16\\

No they did not,

St. Basil the Great(A.D. 329-379), Doctor of the Catholic Church, bishop of Caesarea, :

", some we possess from written teaching and others we receive from the tradition of the Apostles, In respect to piety both are of the same force. No one will contradict any of these, no one, at any rate, who is even moderately versed in manners ecclesiastical. Indeed, were we to try to reject the unwritten customs as having no great authority, we would unwittingly injure the Gospel in its vitals,"
Holy Spirt 27:66

You do need to apologize.

Understanding Calvinism
john9346* "Let us, therefore, approach him with holiness of spirit, lifting unto him pure and undefiled hands, loving the kind and compassionate Father who hath made us a part of his elect."

First Clement 29:1

30:1 Since, therefore, we are a portion of the Holy One, let us do all such things as pertain unto holiness, avoiding evil-speaking, foul and impure embraces, drunkenness, disorderliness, abominable desires, detestable adultery, execrable pride,

Here (Pope Clement) warns the elect:

Finish It Here Nov 2016
reuben ask, "Which Church Fathers said scripture "First" ??

All of them...
---john9346 on 11/14/16

pls then give one that said that. And their writing!

Finish It Here Nov 2016
All the church fathers when referencing the "Scriptures." always stated that everything came downfrom the Scriptures "First." then to others.

They never stated, the "Scriptures." "Second." as you your claiming.
---john9346 on 11/11/16

Which Church Fathers said scripture "First" ??

Finish It Here__Oct, 2016
So let me get this correct God who is an Infinite Eternal Spiritual Being is unable to guide mankind to the truth??
---john9346 on 11/1/16

Let me get this correct, you are saying, God the Infinite Eternal Spiritual Being left it up to mankind that which interpretation you prefer is correct?

John 9346* The Scriptures are self-consistent, self-interpreting, and self-authenticating.

Scripture is not self-authenticating, if it were than the canon of scripture would had been settle right way!

How do you know who wrote the Gospels? By Sola Scripture or by Tradition?

Finish It Here__Oct, 2016
Like I have been stating to you again and again canonicity and Sola Scriptura are not the same thing (2 different categories)

Not sure why you insist on confusing the 2.
---john9346 on 10/31/16

But both need each other.

Sola Scriptura says everything we need to know that is necessary for our salvation comes from the Bible alone. True or False?

So knowing which scriptures are inspired and which scriptures are not inspired are necessary for ones salvation? Yes Or No

Sola Scriptura(Bible Alone in Latin) cannot tell us which are inspired and which are not!

Conclusion: Sola Scriptura is not and can not and has not been true.

Finish It Here__Oct, 2016

Sir, first, you didn't state the entire paragraph of Book 13 Par 5 of what Augustine stated.

Tell us, in this paragraph as well as canon 12 of the council of Toledo where do they state, declare, that like Strongaxe is asserting,"The Scriptures."depended on them.
---john9346 on 10/31/16


Tell me John than how did sola scriptura inform you that the books that you have in your hand are the correct books and that it did not depends on bishops or men to tell us which books are legit?

Finish It Here__Oct, 2016
Sir, I asked you to provide me 1 church father who believed and taught your claim that the "Scriptures." depended upon them. John 9346

"The authority of our books [Scriptures], which is confirmed by agreement of so many nations, supported by a succession of apostles, bishops, and councils, is against you." Augustine, Reply to Faustus the Manichean, 13:5 (c. A.D. 400).

"If any one shall say, or shall believe, that other Scriptures, besides those which the Catholic Church has received, are to be esteemed of authority, or to be venerated, let him be anathema." Council of Toledo, Canon 12 (A.D. 400).

Finish It Here__Oct, 2016
Can you give us just 1 church father who taught, believed, and defended what you just "Stated to be factual."

---john9346 on 10/27/16

What does the Church Fathers have to do with this??

First Step Of Salavation

Does not the "Scriptures." state believers and unbelievers??
---john9346 on 10/19/16

John Yes,

But a unbelievers do not need to(Eye) pluck it out and throw it away, nor to confess or abide in him and endure till the end!

First Step Of Salavation
john9346* In Matt 5:29 and Matt 6:13-15,

Explain who was Jesus addressing??

Jesus and scripture tells us,

Matt 5:1 " When he saw the crowds..

Matt 8:1 When Jesus came down from the mountains great crowds followed him"

john9346* If you forgive..
If you abide in him..
If you confess..
If you endure till the end.."

And who was the Lord Jesus Christ in each one of these verse you are referencing who was Jesus talking to?


First Step Of Salavation
john9346* Jesus doesn't cease being our saviour and stop loving his children because of sin

Mt5:29 "If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away, it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell "

Mt 6:13-15 "but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

john9346* In salvation, Jesus becomes our saviour and loves us forever..

If you forgive..
If you abide in him..
If you confess..
If you endure till the end..

First Step Of Salavation
No sir and thanks for asking, Jn 19:30, declares to us that the Lord Jesus Christ completed "All-the-work." needed for salvation. This is why all one has to do is to believe on Christ because he completed everything for salvation.

---john9346 on 10/16/16


You just said we have to confess your sins?

What happens if you do not?

Why do you need to confess your sins if 'ALL' you need is to believe in Christ?

1 Tim. 6:17 reads " Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine, continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee."

Here Paul tells us to 'Continuing in them, you will save yourself.

First Step Of Salavation
I was responding to Reuben who raised an objection that man is saved apart from works.

Jn19:30 disprooves Reuben's Belief System.
---john9346 on 10/14/16

Really lets see,

Jesus said " It is Finish"

So John we can go on and sin and not worry about it, no need to confess our sins?

Is that what you are saying??

Rev. 2:25-26 only hold fast what you have, until I come. HE WHO CONQUERS AND WHO KEEPS MY WORKS until the end, I will give him power over the nations,

First Step Of Salavation

"who determines which are essentials and non-essentials?"

"The Scriptures."

"Please give the chapter, verse and book that tells us that these are essentials and these are not?

---john9346 on 10/14/16

If it is 'Scriptures" who determines what are the Essentials and what are not, then pls give me the chapter, book and page where it tells us 'What are the essentials and what are not essentials?

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