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Spirit Goes To Heaven
  
Once we are IN CHRIST! We are IN CHRIST...sealed until the day of redemption. ---kathr4453 on 3/11/17


Yes Kathr if we are in Christ and stay in Christ we are secure in Him.

God can say He is the God of the living for to God we all are still live in His knowledge so at the last day we are given a new immortal , incorruptible bodies combined with Gods recorded knowledge of our intangible parts, our character.

To the one who dies the 2nd coming seems to follow immediately after death no matter how many centuries may have passed. What a wise wonderful loving God we have.


Spirit Goes To Heaven
  
This discussion must look at a definition of soul in the bible and its uses in the bible.

Gen 2:7 does not say God gave Adam a soul, but that with the combination of Gods breath and the body Adam becomes a living soul or person. God told Adam when he died he would return to dust. Gen 3:19. No indication that when breath leaves the body at death that this soul can live on.

Many times when this word is used it is referring to feelings, the intangible part of a person. e.g Why my soul are you downcast. Ps 42:11, but never as a part of the person that can live on its own, the body being dead.


Spirit Goes To Heaven
  
kathr4453 on 2/10/17
Said Job had it wrong.

So King David had it wrong also when he wrote Ps 39:40 speaking to God, Remove Your gaze from me, before I go away and AM NO MORE. And in Ps 30:9 When I go down to the pit, will the dust praise Thee?

Luke who wrote Acts didnt know anything else either when he said David was dead and buried (acts 2:29). What a golden opportunity to tell us some part of David was in heaven with God. Its not there.

Paul also writing to the Thessalonians (1 Thess 4:13) wanting to comfort them concerning those who had died, didnt say a part of those who had died were in heaven, just comforted them with the fact that Jesus will come and raise them to life again.


How Is God Love
  
Yes thank jerry. That would make my comment clearer. Assumed correctly


Spirit Goes To Heaven
  
RichardC on 2/20/17 Back to Jude 1:14 - Christ comes with his saints to judge - what do you do with that ?

Easily explained when one goes to the original greek. The word is hagios and just means holy.
Other verses describing the second coming such as Matthew 25:31,Mark 8:38 has the same word but followed by the word angels, or ones, this should also be angels as some versions have.

In the KJV hagios is translated as holy 161 times, often followed by the word for angels or spirit as in Holy Spirit, ones, place or city.

When it is referring to living saints (61 times) it is clear from the context it is speaking of living saints as in Acts. What need for a resurrection if saints are already with Jesus?


Spirit Goes To Heaven
  
---RichardC on 2/19/17 quoted Luke 23:42-43
If Jesus soul/spirit went anywhere when He died on the cross, He did not go to where God the Father was because He says to Mary on resurrection morning, Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father. John 20:17.

Also in regard to Luke 23:43, If one reads this comment of Jesus without the comma, which translators have added, the sense is different. I say to you today when we are dying on these crosses.


How Is God Love
  
Having read all the comments so far on this question, there are not many that attempt to answer the question.

This idea of God punishing the unsaved for all eternity comes out of greek mythology, not the bible.

One of the biggest lies about God is that He would punish the unsaved for all eternity.

Revelation 20:15 says the unsaved will suffer the 2nd death in the lake of fire, which is on the earth. God then creates a new heavens and earth, this earth we live on will be changed as Psalm 102:26 indicates.

The unsaved are dead. No lake of fire remaining.


How Is God Love
  
Regarding Sodom and Gomorrah, and also the Flood in Noahs day.

God did not wipe out the people of those cities and of that world without giving them a chance to be saved from the disasters.

Genesis 19:12-14. Lot was told to tell his family that God would destroy Somon . Others would have heard the warning as well. They did not believe it.

Noah spent time while building the ark to preach what was to happen. 2 Peter 2:5. None outside his family responded it seems.

Look at Jesus to learn about a God of love. The Father is also that God of love.


Spirit Goes To Heaven
  
So man lies down and does not rise till the heavens are no more, they will not awake nor be roused from their sleep. Job 14:12.

If one couples this with what 2 Peter 3:10 says speaking of the Day of the Lord (the 2nd coming verse 4) the heavens will pass away. 1 Thess 4:13-16 and 1 Corinthians 15:51-55 indicates the dead will rise at that time. The heavens are dissolved and the dead rise.

I believe this was what Job referred to in Job 14:12


Spirit Goes To Heaven
  
Yes God has not spoken to Job. Yet when God does speak there is nothing about this and other comments Job makes about the state of the dead. Many other verses in the bible agree with Jobs comments.


Why Ten Commandments
  
It is obvious the 10 commandments were known by mankind (Cains punishment) before Moses was given them written on stone.

Here is food for thought. It is generally believed that Moses wrote the first 5 books of the Bible.

He was present when God gave the 10 commandments on Mount Sinai in such spectacular fashion and not when Adam and Eve were instructed. It was probably not known exactly when God gave Adam and Eve and their descendants these rules for harmonious living.

Moses recorded what he knew about best.


Why Ten Commandments
  
It is very annoying when one posts a question on a certain subject and it is hijacked by bloggers to discuss another subject.

I really wanted bloggers to consider the question not the meaning of the word catholic.

Please post your own question.

Moderator, is it possible to only put on comments about the question.

I have stayed away from this site for quite a while because of this.


Why Ten Commandments
  
To deny Eternal Punishment is to simply deny the nature of God.
God's Nature demands Eternal Punishment john9346 on 8/19/15

You mean God tells us love Him and others and then does something that is worse than what Hitler did.

No wonder there are atheists who reject christianity when this is a picture of our God put forward by many Christians.


Unrepentant Go To Heaven
  
You mean there is no torment for all eternity.

Not biblical at all, that the unrepentant will be saved. This universal saving of all is a reaction of those who reject the horrible error of eternal torment.

Is God not powerful enough to end the sin problem.


Why Ten Commandments
  
It is obvious the 10 commandments were known by mankind (Cains punishment) before Moses was given them written on stone. Here is food for thought. It is generally believed that Moses wrote the first 5 books of the Bible. He was present when God gave the 10 commandments on Mount Sinai in such spectacular fashion and not when Adam and Eve were instructed. It was probably not known exactly when God gave Adam and Eve and their descendants these rules for harmonious living. Moses recorded what he knew about best.


Why Ten Commandments
  
Yes Jerry, I fully agree with your comment (8/15/15) Jesus summed up the commandments as love God supremely, (commandments 1-4 ) and others as ourselves (commandments 5-10). Is it just possible that these two principles are Gods guides for harmonious living adapted for man, fallen man? I believe these are the rules for all eternity and only those who value those principles now, will be given eternal life.


Why Ten Commandments
  
Made up my mind already (Cluny 8/12/15) Yes.

I dont believe God will punish those who for less than 100 years have disobeyed His commandments, with tormenting for all eternity.

Could you in your wildest dreams imagine Jesus would agree to that level of punishment. And Jesus and God think the same. Someone Who is love could never do that.

Those who are not given eternal life perish in the Lake of Fire. (Rev 20:15) which is the 2nd death. (Rev 20:14) That is the end of Satan, sin and sinners.


Explain Isaiah 43:11
  
Cluny 4/27/15 Jesus said, "You have not heard My Father's voice at any time."
Probably not a good text to prove Isaiah 40:3 was the Son. I believe it was the Son. This verse (John 5:37) needs to be looked at in context. To whom was Jesus saying this? To some of the Jews who did not believe in Him. They had not heard His Fathers voice because they were not following Gods ways. Some others may have heard the Fathers voice at Jesus baptism. (Matthew 3:17)
God bless.


Explain Isaiah 43:11
  
---Steveng on 4/27/15
Was Jesus a vantriliquist the time he was baptised and a voice came from heaven? No of course not. The nature of the Godhead is very different to the nature of humans. The bible indicates that Gods nature is composed of 3 entities, The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These all have the same attributes, but can act independently. They are all equally God, always have been, always will be.



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