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What Is Apophtatic Theology
True Jerry GOD means what he says. I am very sure Strong Ax knows that. He just disagrees with us.

We need to follow Jesus.

God Wakes Me Up
Sad but true Strongax.

How To Read The Bible
Amen Richard and Kathyr.

Humans have always been saved by grace through faith.

As one writer wrote. Those in the Old Testament by looking forward to Christ as shown in the Bible by Animal Sacrifice to those after the death of Christ on the cross.

Agreed Kathyr the Promise to Abrahams holds. But in my understanding that promise is the New Covenant.

Let us keep our eyes on Jesus and follow him.

Explain ! Corinthians 3:7
1Co 3:7
So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth, but God that giveth the increase.

Looking at the context. We see Paul being upset that different people were following different teachers. Which is wrong. We are all to follow Jesus Christ.

One person may witness to an individual and nothing happen. Then latter another talks and the seed the first planted grows and gives themselves to Jesus.

But it was the Holy Spirit who worked on the person. Not the teachers. GOD saves.

Commandments From Jesus
Mark. When we come to Christ all that has happened before is gone.

But what of the future. What are we supposed to do when we sin. The Bible teaches two things. First what to do with sin. 1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Second that we are not supposed to live in sin. That those who live in sin. Are not saved.

1John 5:2,3 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1John 3:15 >Read all of 2 Peter and all three of the John letters.


Pope Francis Prayers
Nicole I am confused. I was trying to say the pots had clean water. Not about the rivers.

Jerry. In Spanish speaking countries they say Dios instead of GOD. Is that Blasphemy?

I ran into a group recently who believe unless you pronounce the name of GOD the way they do you are lost.

So do you think a person is lost because they don't use the correct word?


What Is Apophtatic Theology
Strong Michael. Good interesting points. Thank you.

Why Do I Have Doubt
Because it is easier to doubt then believe.

I don't know the Gentlemen you mentioned. But when challenged as agnostic to check the Bible if it was true. That took over a year of study.
That was over 40 years ago. Does doubt ever cross my mind? Yes. But I remember the years and the times GOD has lifted me up and sustained me. I remember what his words says. I turn my doubts over to Jesus and trust in him.

How To Read The Bible
Thank you katyr for your nice answer. We disagree.

I remember a Christian telling me one time. I pray for the Pretribulation rapture. But I am prepared for the post.

The New Covenant to be is the everlasting Covenant.

But when we get to heaven. All that matters is that we are there.


I always have thought that was a good view.

What Is Apophtatic Theology
The problem is Scholars differ.

For instance Edward Fudge is a Protestant Scholar who teaches hell is not eternal. That the wicked are consumed. But other Scholars say he is wrong and have books to counter his books. His book is "The Fire that Consumes"

Martin Luther debated this for some time.

Scholars debate between Covenant understanding of the Bible and Dispensationalist understanding of the Bible.

So yes while we can learn from Scholars and I like to hear both sides. We must make up our own mind. Through Prayer and Bible study.

Commandments From Jesus
Because of the rest of Romans.

Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin,
Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Sin is breaking the law. We are to not live in sin.

How To Read The Bible
Dear Kathyr Your post about being new creatures is right on. Christ in us is the secret.

But on the church being Israel you are mistake. Ephesians2 is all about the church being Israel.

We are part of the New Covenant. Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Romans 11:24-26 We are grafted into Israel.

Romans 9:6
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:


Commandments From Jesus
Some Great points Jerry.

But remember when Jesus asked the Jewish lawyer what it the Greatest commandment.

Luke 10:25-28 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind, and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

They knew. But like many today they didn't want to follow.

The Orthodox church in general teaches the Ten Commandments are moral laws in effect.

Pope Francis Prayers
Nicole you don't use dirty water to wash with. When the water comes out of the tap into the Bathtub. Could you drink that water?

How To Read The Bible
Agreed Nicole. We also have to recognize who certain words are for.

I am not going to build an ark in my back yard. It is too small anyway.

But the words of the Bible can be twisted.

2Peter 3:15,16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation, even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you, As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

God is love.

Dead Spouse Benefit Tithe
We benefit from Grace. Our works don't save.

Now do you mean that they will get extra rewards for your actions?

I don't think so.

What Is Apophtatic Theology
Dear Jerry. No. You didn't hurt my feelings. On some discussion sites I am a Satan following false teaching the doctrine of demons as a cultist. Knowing Jesus is correct I ignore them.

Your snowflake comment seemed general.

I am not leftist. I am middle of the road.

But one important main point. We are a minority. If we don't stand up for minority people to defend the rights of all. Are we not working against ourselves. You know that the Government will turn against us. Trump works to make that easy.

Love thy neighbor is especially to poor and persecuted. All who are persecuted we need to help.


How To Read The Bible
Good point. One problem I find from many people. Is they never try to make all scripture agree. That take one or two verses and then state a doctrine. But as Peter points out in 2nd Peter some can twist the words of Paul okay to live in sin.

What Is Apophtatic Theology
Jerry I am far from a snowflake. Born in 1952 in a poor neighborhood. In the Southeast side of Houston, Texas. I know what being hit and hitting others feels like.

But I by the Grace of GOD became a Christian. Jesus gave the Commandment to love everyone. You don't seem to do that. As a Seventh day Adventist I am to love and care for all people. Especially the poor.

You in your words don't convey love or caring.

Let us look to Jesus the author and finisher of our faith. Read the SOP.

GOD is love.

How To Read The Bible
Dear Barb

I would change the words you wrote just a little.

My salvation was a gift from GOD by the blood of Jesus Christ.

But as a Born Again Christian, I will walk in the way of the Holy Spirit listening to the Word of GOD and the Spirit of Prophecy to find truth and live for Jesus.

Love is to be my reason. Jesus is to be My Lord.


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