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What Is The Curse Of Ham
  
Bryan, exactly what are you asking? Ham wasn't cursed.


Who's The Elect
  
"There is NOTHING in Rev. 5,10 about 1000 years. Why did you tell such a falsehood?" That verse speaks of the reign of the overcomer, and where that reign takes place. The when is documented in Rev 20:4 & 6. A thousand years, as documented in Rev. 20, is a thousand years. We exist in time, the Father does not, that is what those verses you quoted mean. We must never forget that the Lord is patient, and that time is irrelevant where His patience is concerned. That's the lesson to be taken from those verses.


Who's The Elect
  
Cluny as I've stated before, A literal millennia is documented in Rev 20 a total of six times, and documented as being on earth in Rev 20:8-9>Rev 5:10. The reign, or influence and control that the leader and teachers of the millennium exercise, will be over all who have never hear the gospel of Christ throughout human history. Granting them the same opportunity that He has blessed the overcomer to embrace. That's the millennia's purpose, to give them that opportunity to hear and receive the gospel, and to prepare those who died before the birth of the Christ, or never heard the gospel after He ascended, for the final deception of Satan. But even after all the instruction, there will still be those who reject it and are deceived and destroyed.


Who's The Elect
  
"So how can the gift of Salvation be for All? "
The millennia will be a time of teaching. "It is written in the prophets, And they shall all (everyone, everyman) be taught of God [through, I believe, those who will reign with Him as kings (leaders), and priest (teachers) during that time]. Many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob, and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem." The only people excluded from life during the millennia are those who damned themselves, in this life, by blatenly rejected the salvation offer though Jesus.


Do Animals Go To Heaven
  
DO ANIMALS GO TO HEAVEN Nancy although there is no mention of animals being resurrected, animals are mentioned as living during the millennium, as it is written. "The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid, and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together, and a little child shall lead them.
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD." I believe the assumption can be made logically that domestic animals will be included as well.


Ten Commandments Historical
  
"Most Christian denominations have historically held the Ten Commandments as being binding on Christians. Many Christians today do not agree. Why? What changed?" Enlightenment, for those who understand. "Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,..." 1Ti 1:9 And that "whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law,.." Rom 3:19 "The law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor." Gal 3:24,25


Where Is Elijah And Enoch
  
Strongaxe yes, up until the time Jesus ascended no man had ascended to Heaven. "so it cannot speak to what happened or will happen afterwards." The fact that David hasn't speaks to that. If any man, other than Jesus was in Heaven it would be a man after "Gods own heart". Man will be raised and will spend the millennia on earth. Rev 20:6>Rev 5:10 I believe that the only Heaven that any of us will see is Heaven here on earth when the Father in His fullness dwells with man for the eternity. Rev 21:1-3


Where Is Elijah And Enoch
  
It is written that no man has ascended to Heaven. John 3:13 Not even David, a man after God's heart, is said to be in Heaven, even after Jesus ascended. Acts 2:34 So I do have biblical reasons for believing that no man is 'living' in Heaven. Concerning Elijah and Enoch, I know that they are mortal, since I know that they are destined to die, and logically, no moral has been walking around in Heaven for the last two thousand years. According to Rev 4:11 they await their assignment, and they can only be existing, or "standing by the LORD" (per Zec 4:14) in a state of stasis, or suspended animation initiated by the LORD. Can I prove this? No. However it remains my belief:o)


Finish It Here_Feb 2017
  
"Now I'm confused by your belief." David grace is a gift. A man does nothing to merit a gift. The Father grants grace by the effectual working of His power. Eph 3:7 We are bestowed, granted, or given grace, not by what we do, or because we somehow earned it, but rather according to the measure of the gift of Christ. Eph 4:7 Again David every man that receives grace receives it as a gift and are called to serve one another according to that same grace. 1Pe 4:10 We are told that we are saved by grace, through faith, and that it is not of ourselves, it is the gift of God. Eph 2:8 It is my belief that grace, faith, love, mercy, and salvation are all gifts, all of God, so that no one can boast.


Salvation Greater Than Peter
  
"doesn't obedience then become a requirement to Grace?"
David grace requires nothing from us. Grace is the unmerited favor of the Father. His gift of reconciliation through the atoning sacrifice of Jesus that paid the penalty of sin so that man might be brought back into agreement with Himself. His divine influence upon the heart -focus- of man, that brings him into the condition & state of mind that allows for that place within himself to be opened to embracing & exercising His faith to rely on, depend upon, trust in, acknowledge & confess Jesus as LORD & Savior. The obedience of love is of Him, our love for each other is a gift, and every good, and perfect gift, is from above.


Who Is The Serpent
  
Earl don't leave before telling us exactly who you believe the serpent to be, and why? "What is your position on this verse?" You never made that clear.


Salvation Greater Than Peter
  
David, I agree, Jesus saves, and it is the Father's grace that brings us to salvation. Thank you for sharing your understanding of grace.


Salvation Greater Than Peter
  
"I don't say this to be insulting nor to argue, I'm stating a helpful fact which may just save your Life" Thank you David, I know that you were not being insulting, and I was not insulted. I just misunderstood your post as well, my apologies. Please share your understanding of grace as taught by Jesus, and the scriptural basis of that understanding. Perhaps I have missed it.

P.S. I do understand that Paul is not the author of grace, he, like John and Peter, simple taught the grace of God as they understood it.


Salvation Greater Than Peter
  
I misunderstood you Kat. Thanks for taking the time to explain yourself.


Salvation Greater Than Peter
  
"David, I think the problem I see here is the verse in Romans 12 is talking to those already saved" Kat although this is not addressed to me, I read it as a response to my post. The verses says every man. It uses the Greek word "hekastos" which is defined every where in the N.T. as either everyman, everyone, or each one. This same word is used in Luke 2:3 and Rom 2:6, and I am sure that you know that those verses are not just referring to believers. However, If paul happen to be speaking only to believer at that time, he admonished them not to think of themselves more highly than they should. Why? Because "God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith."


Salvation Greater Than Peter
  
When Abraham believed God and God imputed it to Abraham as righteousness, it had nothing to do with Abraham implement his spiritual gift. Kat how do you think Abraham came to believe God? Do you honestly believe he came to implement that belief without the Father's influence? How do you read this verse? What is your understanding? "For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake. (NKJV,NIV) For it has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in him but also suffer for his sake, (ESV) I only quoted a couple of versions, however they all read the same. I believe that Abraham was also given to believe the Fathers promises for Christ sake.



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