Scriptures Only Please
As St. Paul said to people in Corinth on this very issue, "Is it only to YOU the Word of God has come?"
In other words, do not the collective experience of centuries Christians JUST as saved as you are, and their walk with the Lord, count for anything in the understanding of Scripture?
---Cluny on 8/15/10|
"If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Revelation 22:18-19
---Lea on 8/15/10|
Good morning ALL amd God bless you!!
I believe that we should have concordances to give us the true meanings in the Bible so that we can better understand what God is telling us.
Especially since the Bible was written originally in hebrew then greek.
The bible tells us that the Holy Spirit will guide us and teach us in all things.
It says that those that are saved have the Holy ghost within them.
It also says God gave us the testimonies of other Christians.
Since it says this, we should mentor each other. share in our testimonies,what we have learned through trials. Someone out there will hear and it will help, uplift, and edify them help them know that Go is with them to get them through it.
---ginger on 8/16/10|
PROVERBS 2:6 For the LORD giveth wisdom,out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
(A concordance helps -- Going back to hebrew and Greek --- Reading some ones opinion on verses can help,BUT the ultimate authority is the BIBLE,
---RICHARD on 8/15/10|
ummm, I know what your saying, but Jesus said more than just what was written in his word, and when you are a christian who reads gods word daily cuz you agree that his word is a lamp unto our feet and a light unto our path- our words in our daily life can be full of wisdom and understanding and when you are wise in the eyes of the unbelie ver they will listen to you when you share scripture too. so ya , i read books written by christians because there full of wisdom b
---lolita on 8/13/10|
We are not to let any other tools take the place of God's Holy Word. There are anointed people of God who does write other literatures, other study guides,books and so forth. We should respect that. But nothing supercedes God's Word. There are other learned and educated people who can help us and share their experience and teachings with us. We do learn from others and others learn from us, but the Holy Spirit is our teacher/counselor. This is why the Holy Spirit came. This is why we need to be indwelled with the Holy Spirit. Read john 16:13, Ephesians 4:11-12. Christians should help other christians, through the written word or other ways, as God leads them. This helps us to have a better and more enjoyable, walk with the Lord.
---Robyn on 8/13/10|
We need more than just the Bible to study by. God is the one who said to me one day not long after I was saved, "you need some Bible tools". End of quote. Ofcourse, my first reaction was, "well, I've got the Bible"
---catherine on 8/11/10|
Study The Word of God, 2nd.Tim.2 v 15.
People that use other books & guides, 2nd.Tim.3 v 7.
---Lawrence on 8/11/10|
Neh 8:8 So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.
Acts 8:30 And Philip ..., and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
Acts 8:31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? ...
Ac 18:26 ...: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God ...
People need guidance.
---trey on 11/13/07|
Reference books can help facilitate understanding of the details in the Scriptures. Like locating places on a map to plot their treks and lodgings, or knowing the values of the kinds of money that was used in Old and New Testament times, etc. And yes it would be excellent for people to feed more on the Bible, then on other things.
---Eloy on 11/12/07|
Revelation 12:17 and the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
---jana on 3/25/07|
Prior to the Reformation, all Jews and Christians made use of Tradition to understand the Bible. The Jews have a huge reference library attached (figuratively) to their Tanach (our OT) to provide the keys to understanding them. Even in the NT, they quote from Tradition, where else do we find out about the Devil fighting over the body of Moses, or that the rock followed the Jews in the desert?
2 Timothy 2:2 They also passed it on.
---lorra8574 on 3/24/07|
Part 2 For example, the Didache provided instructions on how to baptise, otherwise we would get very confused from scripture alone - as has happened since the reformation. Sacred tradition is not intended to replace scripture or add to it, the purpose is to provide additional sources of context to better understand what scripture says. Wouldn't it be nice if we could be certain of what everything meant so that we didn't have 30,000 plus different Christian denominations fighting over it?
---lorra8574 on 3/24/07|
The "where is this verse" is asked of Jana on 3/23/07 sorry I forgot to specify. Mark
---MARK on 3/23/07|
Actually God said to me along time ago and I quote Him, "You need some study tools." End of quote. I did not really know what they were. I wouldn't even attempt to try and understand God's word without them. I might get it wrong. So I study whatever scripture God lays on me. "I STUDY."
---catherine on 3/23/07|
Sola Scriptura: Belief that Scripture is the final and only infallible authority for the Christian in all matters of faith and practice.
Solo Scriptura: Belief that Scripture is the sole basis and authority in the life of the Christian. Tradition is useless and misleading, and creeds and confessions are the result of man-made traditions.
---JohnE on 3/23/07|
Where exactly is this verse?
Read 1 Cor 1:18-21 now read Jos 1:8 if the person in Corinthians applies what is in Joshua the results should be the same as in Acts 8:29-38
We must have the Holy Spirit to understand God. 1 Cor 2:10-16 "But God hath revealed them unto us by His Spirit; for the Spirit searcheth ALL THINGS, yea, the DEEP things of God.
Where are you going to find the deep things of God? In His word.
---MARK on 3/23/07|
Hey, if the Bible was good enough for Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, then it's good enough for me....
hahahahaha did anyone understand what I just said?
---Chipper on 3/23/07|
Luke4:23 Jesus is the great physician, 1corinthians12:9 God gives us different gifts Psalm 82:6 You are gods (us).The bible is a map, other books and guides help us to interprete the map.God is the great physician. we still go to hospital because He has given the gift of healing to Doctors.the Holy spirit is our teacher,we also need pastors to nurture us.
---Achieng on 3/23/07|
The premise of the Q is absurd!
It asks to explain Scripture, using only Scripture; it is impossible. That is like the fish asking you to explain water, using only water.
Also, ANYONE who explains something goes beyond the thing explained in order to explain it.
Could this be a tactic to intimidate the timid?
---Observer on 3/23/07|
no extra books, just scripture alone: thenn can you explain to me what this means in the Bible. "and the devil was wroth with the woman and went to make war with her offsprings" without the help of commentaries, how would u understand this?
---jana on 3/23/07|
2 Pet 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."
---MARK on 3/22/07|
"For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope." (Romans 15:4)
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." (2 Timothy 3:16)
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15)
---theod3582 on 3/22/07|
Solo Scriptura - the protestant's creed. Indeed, the Bible alone is our rule of faith. But Sam, are you so well versed in in the Scriptures that you have no need of teachers or study guides? I confess that I am not. I have learned much over the years from Bible teachers as well as study guides.
---Jerry on 3/18/07|
I would ask the poster, Why does one use a dictionary? or an encyclopedia? or a road map when traveling to an unknown destination? or attend a college? It is for the same reason why people use books and guides, it helps them understand the ancient scriptures. If as a child I went to my parents and asked them questions about things, it would be poor parenting if they always said, "Don't ask me, instead go read the Bible for all your answers."
---Eloy on 2/12/06|
Sam, stick to your guns! Almost all replies defend mankinds perversion of truth, because of almost total deception(Scripture says the whole world is deceived, even the elect are a.l.m.o.s.t. deceived). Yhwh gave you, Sam, a Promise and a Plan. read it and stick to it, trusting only Him, trusting only G_d.
---j on 2/12/06|
Where did you get the idea that "all we need is scripture"? The Bible itself nowhere says this. Were this so, why did Jesus say the Holy Spirit would lead us into all truth? Why did Peter warn about misusing the Bible "to our own destruction"? Why did Paul say "Keep the traditions you have been taught...."? Why did Jesus Hismelf say that the Bible can get in the way of seeing Him--in other words, become an IDOL? (John 5:39f)
---Jack on 5/28/05|
UK Alan - while it is certainly true that a relationship with Christ is really all we need, to really understand the scripture we benefit from those to whom has been given the gift of teaching and that includes those who wrote books and commentaries on scripture. Read in 1 Cor 12 and Eph. 4 about the gifts the Lord has given to His church.
---lee1538 on 4/19/05|
Lee ... I was just pointing out that your original statement indicated that the scripture was all we needed (& I was not the only one to read it in that way) ... you later said quite the opposite!!
---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/17/05|
Even the Apostle Paul read books, according to the New Testament, and he also asked Timothy to heed BOTH the scriptures and the things he had passed on to him verbally, called in Judaism oral tradition.
---Judi on 4/17/05|
Alan - while it is true that the Scripture under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit will lead one into all 'necessary' truth for our salvation, to learn more we need to benefit from those to whom has been given the gift of teaching. And like anything else, it is easier to go to a teacher to acquire answers to those things in the Scripture that are really meat and not milk.
---lee on 4/16/05|
Even translations have personal bias attached to them. If not, why would there be more than one? If you want to stick to the scripture only idea, you need to go back beyond even the Greek to the original writings.
---Adam on 4/15/05|
God's Word is definitely first, but other Godly materials can enrich your understanding greatly. There are significant treasures hidden in the Word, that I missed at one time just because I wasn't familiar with the the historical and cultural aspects of the Bible. The key is to first discern (through the Holy Spirit) and then learn. Prov.3 "Blessed is the man who finds wisdom, the man who gains understanding, for she is more profitable than silver and yields better returns than gold." Shared insights help me to understand the ultimate Wisdom on new levels.
---CarolT on 4/15/05|
Lee ... I have never had the slightest problems with the differing recollections of the gospel writers, nor the fact that the Creation story is incomplete in detail.
But you have to decide whether you are saying that the Bible by itself is enough to teach us all we need, or whether help by others is needed.
---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/13/05|
Lee ... You yourself said "The scripture if read under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit will guide one into all the necessary truth for one to live the Christian life"
Now you say "To answer that one, you need to read books on harmony of the gospels. Different views may be similar but from a different prospective and we need to read the commentaries written by those that have dedicated their lives to the study of these things in order to receive a fuller understanding"
---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/13/05|
Alan_of_U.K.- you might wonder why there are different versions of stories in the gospels themselves. To answer that one, you need to read books on harmony of the gospels. Different views may be similar but from a different prospective and we need to read the commentaries written by those that have dedicated their lives to the study of these things in order to receive a fuller understanding. Theology is not an exact science such as mathematics.
---lee on 4/13/05|
Lee ... how come then that there are so many different views put forward by people who have all read the Bible under the inspiration of the Spirit?
The Spirit tells me that I need to have help in interpretation, if only because I do not know every word in the Bible, and therefore do not know how each relates to all the others.
Learned scholars, and teams of them, can over the years make a proper and fully informed interpretation ... and even then they disagree !!
---Alan_of_U.K. on 4/10/05|
Who said that all we need is scripture? Pastors, and teachers, and outlines studies are also needed. They are not opiniions but expoundings which explain and elucidate the truths for us, so that we can gain understanding and apply the truths to our lives. "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen." John 21:25.
---Eloy on 4/10/05|
The scripture if read under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit will guide one into all the necessary truth for one to live the Christian life.
Hebrews 4:12 (ESV) "For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart."
Those that are born of His Spirit have that testimony in our lives.
---lee on 4/9/05|
The only problem with some extra books is that they may be wrong, and lead us astray from the true meaning of Scripture. The Bible is the book by which all others are to be tested. "To the law and to the testimony, if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." (Isa 8:20)
---Jerry on 4/9/05|
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The books I read usually are written out of another Christian's growth and experience. For example, in "Believing God" by Beth Moore she describes how she came to a realization of how to believe God, and not just believe in God, and she shares how she grew from applying certain scriptures. I like reading her personal experiences because it helps me understand myself better, and apply the scriptures she is sharing.
---Madison on 4/9/05|
I like to know that others applied the Word in their lifes, and it blesses me to see that it does really has an effect. When someone brings a teaching, they tell us that the Word of God is true and it does apply. It helps me to go further, it brings hope in my heart. The Scriptures are excellent, and it's also quite a blessing to know it does apply in our everyday life and experiences.
---Andre on 4/9/05|
Instead of the Scripture Only, think Scripture 1st and Scripture "final authority" also Scripture most. I know,I fell into the habit of substituting the books for my own study of scripture.THIS IS WRONG!
---Ken on 4/9/05|
remember, these books and guides are intended to help people relate what the bible says to their own lives. i wrote a paraphrase of Romans, because while there is nothing wrong with the book, some people have said that they don't understand it. so now, they have a version of romans that helps them understand.
---curt on 4/9/05|
Jerry(Solo Scriptura - the protestant's creed. Indeed, the Bible alone is our rule of faith.)Show me where in scripture that it say that. Gregg John was writing the book of Revelation , SO HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE LAST BOOK IN THE BIBLE NOT THE BIBLE ITSELF. Please do not read out of context.
---ruben on 4/9/05|
I read the KJV, but also other translations. It helps greatly to read material which explains the culture and customs of the people of that era & know the significance of certain words & phrases. Do you not go to Bible classes or hear sermons? These are aids in understanding scripture. Jesus taught in parables and gave object lessons to clearify his message. As long as nothing is added to or taken from the meaning and it's given to edify the WORD of TRUTH..use it. Learn and grow. Thank GOD for all the great material we have available. God has indeed blessed us with an abundance of HIS truth.
---eloia on 4/9/05|
'For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophesy of this book, If any man shall add unto those things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophesy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.'
---gregg on 4/9/05|
Some of the "Extra" Books are clarification and comments about what the Scriptures say so there's nothing wrong with those "extra" books.
Even fora like this are "extras" becuase we talk about the meanings of various passages of the Holy Scriptures.
---Albert on 4/9/05|
First of all I would like to define the word prophet as one who speaks, inspired by God or one who has been given visions by God of the future. AMOS 3;7 and Numbers 12;6. The
'gift of prophecy' is a gift from Jesus and it is a gift that is still available until the end..Rev. 19;10 and Eph. 4;8/11-15. Note: that true prophets do not give their opin-
ions and what they write always leads to our obeying God's will. Isa.8;19-20 The key is to know how to tell a true prophet from the fslse one!
---Pierrre on 4/9/05|
Congrats Sam. I study out of the KJV, often there are words that are not even used anymore, then I need help. Its like reading Shakespeare, that old english gives me a bit of a problem sometimes, especially since english isn't my native tongue.
---Kathay on 4/9/05|