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Can one who has a fragmented spirit, multiple personalities be saved? God gives a sound mind. She claimes all the 'kids' her personalities are saved and full of the Spirit. This person touts she is to be ordained. How can you preach a healing Christ, when your mind is as mixed up as vegetable soup?

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It is important to know who is standing in the pulpit preaching with power, love, and a sound mind.
God uses human vessels and we all fall short, but Jesus gives us a sound mind to help the captives be set free.
---lovable_linda on 12/20/07

It is written that many will come saying
i am this, and i am that in the Lord.
Believe them not.It is written that YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS.SATAN HAVE POWER and knowledge to deceive.He knows the bible in-side-out.He also have his ministers
in the church.Read 2nd Cor.11 v's 13,14,15
Be careful who you listen to,and what title
of religion you use and belong to.It matters.
---Jack_8773 on 12/19/07

Fragmented personality.

Trish probably has the statistics and particulars that would cause someone to resort to a world of role playing, with "kids" that have are childish rather than childlike.

It's probably rare to suffer with multiple personalities.

For some, it's probably an excuse to avoid living among the living. Children live in make believe worlds when they're bored. It can pass the time when you don't have other kids to play with.
---lovable_linda on 12/19/07

I agree with that one, shirley.
They should not be ministering to others, laying their hands on and praying for others, or standing in the pulpit preaching.

Many cults and false prophets have been created because of mental illness/instability.

They attract the walking wounded.
---lovable_linda on 12/19/07

God can heal anything including multiple personality disorder.I am convinced that noone with such a defect should hold any kind of office in the church until they are healed/delivered.They should be welcomed and loved by other church members until then.
---shirley on 12/19/07

Cindy, I have one question regarding all the name's you've found that go to only one person: how the heck do you find the time to figure all this out?! You must do a lot of research on CN and a WHOLE lot of reading!
---sue on 12/19/07

It is to be borne in mind that multiple personality disorder is one way the mind copes with an unbearable situation.

It is a step in the healing process of such a mind. And therefore, nothing to contradict the existence of a healing Christ.

(But that doesn't mean that a good psychiatrist wouldn't help the process along. Prayer works, medicine works, but prayer AND medicine work best of all.)
---Nancy on 12/19/07

Cindy, I've given you my word and you have rejected it. I haven't left here entirely (yet), but I don't contribute as often as I used to because of the immaturity and the unChrist-like behavior that I have witnessed between certain bloggers here. So, yeah, I once joked about having a ChristiaNet addiction, but you may rest assured that addiction has since been remedied. May His wisdom and grace be with you, Cindy, and may He always dwell in your heart.
---AlwaysOn on 9/5/07

Always On, I believe that you and Matthew are one and the same. I believe you are the politically correct one, as Matthew mentioned one time how much he loved politics. I also thought it odd when you said wild horses couldn't take you away from the blogs, they were updating so quickly. I noticed that you had not posted one answer but Matthew had posted about a 100, in the manner that you like to post.
---Cindy on 9/4/07

2)Symptoms associated with the disorder are:large gaps in receint and long term memory or a generalized amniesa, unpredictability,likelyhood of at least one aggressive and one psychotic personality and it is common to see at least one self distructive/mutilating personality. People who suffer with this disorder and are not PLAYING GAMES,usually desire therapy designed to fuse the personalities into one. They are uncomfortable,shamed,and ineffective people.They should not hold office or pastor a church
---jody_martin on 9/4/07

Yes ... waht has happened to bruce? he always had very sound comment, even if I did not always agree with him
Very sad to see him go
---alan_of_UK on 9/4/07

bob cindy tim crystal linda ?
same lie - different day
---Andrea on 9/4/07

Cindy, I was scrolling through the blogs on the main page and saw my screen name, so I dropped in to see what was up. I'm not sure how or why my name was brought into this conversation, just that it was. However, I give you my word that I have never posted under another name here. And, hopefully, my word is enough for you to not repeat this untruth about me. Thanks!
---AlwaysOn on 9/4/07

1)I've read the blogs and note that Junia of 4/18/07,actually knew the correct term for this diagnosis which is Dissociative Identity Disorder or DID. The name changed a few years ago. So maybe that person was one of the personalities? Anyway,aside from satanic issues,these types of people need to desire that the personalities fuge into one personality through hard work of therapy. disaccociation was necessary at the time of traumatic events but has become maladaptive and disfunctional.
---jody_martin on 9/4/07

Always On is the politically correct one, every i dotted and every t crossed, but Matthew and Always On are one and the same, Linda. It's Linda. Why did Bruce disappear, because Linda dismantled him.
Mrs. Morgan is also Linda.
There are many, many more, names, but there is a source.
Linda, would you please seek help for your multiple problem before it eats you alive?
---Cindy on 9/4/07

If you challenge one of her names, she tells you to repent, or says something full of anger. She uses threats.
She tells you that you have no credibility and are so far off because you don't understand context, haven't done your research, or some other degrading comment.
She uses a twist on your name, like "Daffy", "Rebarb" "Chippy" - even Daphne, who is also Linda, calls herself names, that's to keep you guessing.
---Cindy on 9/4/07

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Usually, they call everyone else names.
You didn't know that Chipper and Daphne were Linda, also?
When I challenge the "names", I will get alot of flack. My name will be used in any number of ways - that's how you know I am not one of them.
Start doing some research through the blogs - look at exactly who they are siding up to, complimenting, aiding and abetting - it will open up your eyes big time.
This is going to knock you off your chair,
---Cindy on 9/4/07

Madison, when you see that rudeness - don't take it personally. It is partially because of your job and who you help.
This person greatly needs your kind of help, but an extreme amount of pride prevents them from receiving any. When these "two" people strike out at you - it's really only one person. Linda, that would be you.
---Cindy on 9/4/07

I would like to tell you a few of the strategies of the multiples for those who are at a loss. You know that I am not one, because my posts make them very angry. Linda used my name to post around 30 strange answers on the Trinity blog. Then she added appropriate numbers on the end to make it almost seem like another person.
After I tell you these strategies, she will devise some new ones.
I believe in the Trinity, she does not.
---Cindy on 9/4/07

Linda always uses the water, steam, essence description. She is basically Oneness at heart. She doesn't know that the Holy Spirit is not an essence (power), but a person.
You can always spot Linda that way.
Linda likes to post the questions, and does ask some good ones. It's when she begins to answer with all of her names, that it really gets trippy.
Her names all compliment each other.
---Cindy on 9/4/07

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Compulsive lying can be a symptom of Tourettes.

Typical types of alters -

A depressed, exhausted host.

A strong, angry protector.

A scared, hurt child.

A helper.

An internal persecutor who blames one or more of the alters for the abuse they have endured.

I have observed all of the above on these blogs.
---Bob on 9/4/07

When Jesus asked the spirit who it was it said it was legion for it was many.
The Lord then cast out the evil spirits.
Folks with multiple personalities should not preach.
They need to be healed.
---Frank on 9/4/07

Some of the symptoms can be serious for the person.

Physical Differences_ Each alter has their own history, personalities that are unique to them, body movements, facial expressions, the way they express verbal communication, voice tone and pitch.

Writing Differences_ styles.

These individuals might find themselves in a place or talking to someone they dont even know.
Depression_ Suicidal
---Bob on 9/4/07

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make the horse drink. They need help.
---Bob on 9/4/07

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Jaclyn ... What can we do about it?
---alan_of_UK on 9/3/07

Does that include believing yourself Jaclyn aka Bob aka Crystal aka various Marks aka Deputy aka Sabrina aka Tim aka Parakeet aka Mississippi and more than dozen others (I'd go on but unfortunately we are only allowed an 85 word limit on here). You always use the same theme over and over...accuser of the brethren and it gives you away. Time for the parakeet to sing a new song, one praising and uplifting Jesus perhaps?? No wonder you have trust issues, you don't even know who you are! LOL
---Holly4jc on 9/3/07

Linda Holly, here's the weird thing - then you actually claim to be the person you ministered to...
"1) I was abused by my father who was an actual practicing satanist. He abused me sexually (he impregnated me at 13), physically, mentally and I was a victim of satanic ritual abuse. He also was abusive to my mom and sisters. I got it the worst. I have totally forgiven my dad and also forgiven my mom (she knew of the abuse but turned her head the other way).
---Holly4jc on 8/10/07 "
---Bob on 9/3/07

Linda - I believe you posted this original question.
As an ordained minister, how do you pray for others?
What happens to those people that you lay your hands on? God says let no one lay hands on you suddenly.
With this much spiritual deception - it would be God's grace protecting those poor people from spiritual delusion at your hands.
---Bob on 9/3/07

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Linda, if some have discernment when they come through the door, I can see them running for the door before the service is over.
JohnT. replied that a person suffering with multiple personalities, a fragmented spirit can be saved.
But a person with multiples should not be laying their hands on and leading others. God is not the author of confusion.
---Bob on 9/3/07

Linda, with a "mind that is mixed up like vegetable soup", testimonies that become more dramatic each time you pull one out of your hat - do you really think you have tormented religious spirits?

Or are religious spirits tormenting you?
---Bob on 9/3/07

On most blogs, we see another variation of "Linda's" personality.
You've convinced yourselves that you can understand every aspect of every religion. You are striving under your own power, to torment religious spirits, assuring all of yourselves that it's the correct path.

What have you accomplished? When you compulsively post, name after name, - how many people are you leading to the Truth of the gospel?
You asked the Mod if he was receiving feedback.
We are your feedback.
---Bob on 9/3/07

Are you talking about yourself, Donna Holly?
That's a nice story, but I don't how much of it I actually believe. Because all of the names you are using have told so many outrageously dramatic stories, there are few people I actually believe on here, anymore.
---Jaclyn on 9/2/07

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Trish, do you see people recover from this disorder?
If a mother suffers from this problem, what does it do to the children?
Does it run in families, environmental?
Does it destroy the family or do they become accustomed to the person living in a fantasy world?
---Bob on 9/2/07

1) Yes...a multiple can get saved. Remember, God loves everyone and can reach down into anyone's darkest moments. I lead a multiple to the Lord in 1999 and as a matter of fact, she just called me the other night and she is still in church and getting counseling and help from the pastoral staff. It has been a very rough road for her since she came out of severe satanic ritual abuse, but through it all (the 8 years of salvation she has had)...
---Holly4jc on 8/30/07

2) ...and even though the enemy picked up his attacks even more severely against her, she is still dedicated to following Christ and holding onto Him no matter what. She called me the other night to thank me for taking time to share the Gospel with her even though at the time I met her she was mean, nasty, verbally abusive and threatened to kill me, but I kept chatting with her anyway about Christ. I had met her in a Christian Chat Room...
---Holly4jc on 8/30/07

3) ...I was a moderator in the room and she came in being very vile and abusive to everyone. But...I kept talking to her and finally during the week I started calling her, she lived in Ohio and I was in Miami, Florida. After one week of sharing Jesus with her, I led her to the Lord on the phone and she's been with Him ever since. Hallelujah!!! And now she is on-line telling others who have been severely abused about Jesus and His love and salvation!
---Holly4jc on 8/30/07

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Romans 12:
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels... can separate us from the of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Here is your answer.
---John_T on 8/30/07

Trish, yes you are right. I used MPD because the previous posts did.
And cognitive behavioral therapy is more in use today.
Still true Dissociative Identity Disorder is rare.
---robin8683 on 8/20/07

Robin: MPD is not given as a diagnosis any longer. The professionals use the term "Dissociative Identity Disorder."

Also, psychoanalysts are just a very small portion of the mental health community. Most psychiatrists and psychologists that I work with use cognitive behavioral therapy, which is totally different than psychoanalysis.
---Trish9863 on 8/17/07

If the "kids" are using several email addresses, which they probably are, that would be too labor intensive for CN to babysit.
The "kids" are here, when a new denominational question comes up, they've been there, done that, and bought the T-shirt. But out of the 100's that come here, there was bound to be one or two with MPD in the mix.
---Mississippi on 8/17/07

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I prefer discussions in the open air. I know the names of most of these personalities, but thanks anyway.
---Mississippi on 8/17/07

The truth always brings them out of the woodwork, doesn't it, Robyn?
---Crystal on 8/17/07

MPD is very rare and often "created" by the psychoanalist.
That said, Mississippi, I hadn't picked up on this. Do you have an email profile here? if so, would you mind emailing me and telling me more about what is going on here?
---robin8683 on 8/17/07

I polled all of the personalities, and the verdict is still out.
---Almonds on 4/11/07
this is my favorite answer - my husband says I have competition.

Anyway - MPD is a mental disorder -and people with it need to be treated with care and compassion not put into positions that would add pressure and conflict to their already disorganized lives.

Pastors are to be examples.
---Andrea on 8/17/07

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Moderator - does Cnet know the addresses people use and do they allow people to use many different names?

don't post this unless you answer it Please.
---Andrea on 8/17/07

As of late, the "kids" are increasing. I've noted as many as four on one blog. They compliment each other, agree with another, and to really help you buy in, there's one or two that will argue against the "kids", but have a great time with the multiples. If there's anything new or controversial, they are all for it, and one "kid" may argue. I forgot, one claims to be Jewish. One of them did goof up recently, claimed to be former mormon and catholic with the same name.
---Mississippi. on 8/17/07

Why does this matter? Because sane bloggers are leaving. Some may not have identified these imaginary personalites. Accountability partners? They're talking about 20 other aspects of themself that hold them accountable, so they think.
The one thing that trips the "kids" up is pride. Several have confronted this person to no avail. I don't enjoy talking to imagainary people from a mind filled with grandiose ideas that they can speak for every religious belief.
---Mississippi on 8/17/07

I think that all the kids are still with us. One is home watching a video over and over. One is eating Trix cereal, or playing Trix. One is a preacher, one is a prophet, and all of them are on the loose feigning different lives, names, and denominations.
---Mississippi on 8/16/07

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It creates real havoc on the blogs. No one knows which kid they're speaking to. Pay attention, you'll see same answers/scriptures over and over.
One is SDA, one was RCC, one was a mormon, one is for OSAS, one is against OSAS, one was/is JW, they've been every denomination in their mind. It is whacko, they find it to be great fun. They find themselves to be highly intelligent. Drunks behave similarly, when they're looped. It makes sense to them, but it's nonsense for the sober ones.
---Mississippi on 8/17/07

This has been going on for a very long time.
Many have left because of it. This person has spread themselves over most every blog, haranguing others until they leave. All I feel is sick when I read their answers. They have a form of godliness but this sickness overrides any positive influence here.
---Mississippi on 8/17/07

With God anything is possible and nothing is impossible.
---catherine on 6/8/07

I think that person is still with us. All of the personalities are definitely busy.
---Fred on 6/8/07

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All things are possible with God.
---catherine on 4/18/07

Why don't you try to first find out what DID is and then you can judge on facts. There are very sound reasons why some people become DID, and quess what? God created the human brain in such a way that when it experiences severe trauma it becomes DID and that saves that person from actually going nuts. Yes all the personalities can be saved.
---Junia on 4/18/07

I polled all of the personalities, and the verdict is still out.
---Almonds on 4/11/07

You can be saved and have MPD. MPD is caused by past tramatic events. The person with MPD forms personalities to deal with past hurt, fear, and pain.
---Leslie on 12/31/06

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"Roses are red, violets are blue./I've got MPD, and I do, too."

True MPD is very rare. Mental and emotional illnessed are not character defects or moral flaws, but normal mental/emotional stability is needed for effective ministry.

Russian Christians admire so-called "fools for Christ." Some were nutty as fuitcakes, but they still loved Jesus. Ordained ministry is something else, though
---Jack on 5/28/05

there is lot of difference between being born mentally handicap and multiple personalities.
---shira_5965 on 5/10/05

God has made provision for those that are mentally retarded. Those whose minds have been stunted and are not in their right minds.Those that cant help themselves. The Bible tells us that God is a loving and merciful Father. His eyes are on the sparrow.There is nothing that catches God by surprise.shear3487
---shearon on 5/9/05

Of course, this person and all her "kids" can be saved! God gave this precious one a creative mind which has rescued her from traumatic memories. However, most of us do not have to "split off" to protect our minds from psychological injury. This person may indeed have the faith, calling and ability to be ordained, but must wait until she has had expert intensive treatment. After we are saved by His grace, Jesus can always use our testimony to His glory!
---Elsie on 5/9/05

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God so loved the world that who ever beliveith in Him shall be saved. He never said anything about except for those who have mind as mixed up as vegetalbe soup so you ar defenitley in thanks be to God vickie
---vickie on 5/9/05

You should pray for this person's complete healing of whatever shade of sickness. Jesus came to make well the disease of everyone, not for the sound being who are kept safe in His Heart. GOD work's in mysterious ways that human mind can't submerge it's logical areas into deeps of his amazing work of puzzle that bestow great wonders when accomplished. Have faith, JESUS CHRIST will never allow any of us who are given to Him be lost... No worries... it won't do anybody any good. Conquer all your concerns with love. GOD truly saves for His Glory.
Claire Faith
---Claire_Faith on 5/9/05

You should pray for this person's complete healing of whatever shade of sickness. Jesus came to make well the disease of everyone, not for the sound being who are kept safe in His Heart. GOD work's in mysterious ways that human mind can't submerge it's logical areas into deeps of his amazing work of puzzle that bestow great wonders when accomplished. Have faith, JESUS CHRIST will never allow any of us who are given to Him be lost... No worries... it won't do anybody any good. Conquer all your concerns with love. GOD truly saves for His Glory.
Claire Faith
---Claire_Faith on 5/9/05

MPD is many times the result of abuse in childhood .It was so severe the only way the person can survive is to develope other personalities to handle the stress ,thus causing a split in their minds/personality.I wouldn't think the person was made whole again until the personalities integrate.Until that happens they aren't stable enough for leadership,especially not as a preacher.Any church that would ordain them isn't wise.
---Darlene_1 on 5/8/05

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I believe multiple personalities are demons. I knew a girl once who had lots of them and said she was saved, but she bore no fruits of the spirit. One personality would steal money from the other. Is that God? I don't think so. It is the devil....all the way
---shira_5965 on 5/8/05

Your description of someone with mental illness is interesting. Vegetable soup?

Yes, someone with MPD can be saved. MPD is a mental illness. With therapy, and proper psychiatric medication it can be corrected.
---Madison on 5/8/05

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