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I Don't Understand Revelation

When I read Revelations in my Bible it sounds like a science fiction story! Why all this stuff about dragons with 7 heads with a tail made of snakes? I can't understand it.

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 ---sue on 6/21/05
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I think you're missing the point. Jesus and the Apostles spoke Aramaic and Hebrew. In those languages, his name would be "Yehoshua". In the Greek New Testament, it is written "Iesous", which is similar, but written and pronounced quite differently. Yet the writers of the New Testament had no problems with this, nor the fact that many other Hebrew names got slightly mangled in the translation as well.

The important thing is who Jesus was and what he taught - NOT the exact minutae about how his name is spelled and pronounced. If we make those things all important, we miss the point, and strain on gnats while swallowing camels.
---StrongAxe on 10/1/10

Kev, you never told me what the difference in meaning it has for anyone. Only that you like using the "I" as you say. I don't think anyone minds that you do that if your conscience tells you to. But let me say He is not another Jesus, it is the same Jesus without the letter "J." If He is another Jesus, why don't you proof it with Scripture? I will go over the readings of Scripture to see if that letter changes who He was. I always hear things people say Jesus is, Like, "He turns to a piece of bread, or a piece of bread turns into Jesus, He became sin, His deity is change by people.
I was hoping to get information from you about Revelations, where things were changed. I could use that help if you have it.
---MarkV. on 10/1/10

//(although a few, like English, French, Spanish, and Portuguese, have changed J to sound very different).//

Thanks very much for admitting it. It is true.

I'd rather stick with the manner that the Apostles and Christian martyrs pronounced the name of Iesus Christ the last 1,600 years versus the way modern lukewarm Christians pronounce Jesus of the last 300-400 years or so.

The Geneva Bible/Iohn Foxe taught that 42 months (294 years of the Tribulation) already happened. The two witnesses already came. The Church (the tents of the Saintes and the Beloued City) is now in Revelation 20:8-9 and shall soon witness Christ's second coming... the devil along with Gog and Magog defeated. Christ shall reign for euer.
---Kev on 9/30/10


In Latin, I and V were both consonants and vowels (just as Hebrew letters Yod and Vav). In late Latin, the two uses were differentiated by writing the letters slightly differently (I and J, U and V). Most European languages still use I and J this way (although a few, like English, French, Spanish, and Portuguese, have changed J to sound very different).

You have trouble with the sound changes in English introduced by using the letter J. Yet you don't seem to have any trouble with very similar sound alterations in Greek. For example, Hebrew names ending in a A had S added (for example, Isaiah became Esaias, Joshua became Jesus, etc.) If you object to J you ought to object to S as well. But no NT authors had any problem with S.
---StrongAxe on 9/30/10

Revelations is not for us now. We are under grace and that means that we are in the Assembly of Jesus Christ as our High Priest and head is the head of the Assembly and we are the body.

The Tribulation doesn't happen until after Jesus comes for his Church which we as saints belong to.

The tribulation only comes some time afterwards and people are being taught wrong to start with.
---Royll on 9/30/10

Are all non-English speaking people condemned? By no means. Protestant Bible translations from the 1500s were very faithfully translated out of the Hebrew-Greek originals... whether it be Martin Luther's Bible 1534 (German), the French Geneva Bible, the English Geneva Bible, and other good Protestant Bible in other languages (as in Italian, Spanish, & c.)

S. Luke 23:38, And a superscription was also written ouer him, in Greke lettres, and in Latin, & in Hebrewe, THIS IS THE KING OF THE IEWES.

The Geneva Bible explains, That the thing might be knowen to all nacions, because these thre languages were moste commune.

Is William Tyndale's Bible translation to be condemned because English wasn't around in the 1st Century?
---Kev on 9/30/10


How about the other 6000 languages in the world? Are all non-English speaking people condemned? Jesus or Paul print the Geneva Bible? No? Was English even around when Jesus walked the earth? No? Then either learn Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew, or get over it!
---Frank on 9/30/10

Concerning Revelation, Protestants are very unaware today what the Geneva Bible translators and Iohn Foxe taught. Please tell me Protestants, what did Iohn Foxe teach about the two witnesses and Revelation 20:8-9 (the tents of the Saintes and the beloved City concerning year 1566) at page 734 to 775 in The Actes and Monuments of Martyrs 1583 edition?

I cannot in a good conscience use the letter J anymore, so help me God. Amen. As for IESVS, Iehouah, and quoting the book of Ieremiah, I'm only being exact with the Protestant Bible (William Tyndales Bible translation/1560 Geneva Bible assisted by Myles Couerdale and Iohn Calvin).

Am I therefore become your enemie, because I tell you the trueth? (Gal. 4:16)
---Kev on 9/30/10

There is no L. Or J. It's IESVS as in capital I. After reading the facsimile/exact photocopy of Iohn Caluin's writings, it's absolutely IESVS Christ.

Christians from European countries and North America pronounce the name of IESVS very differently (because of the recently -introduced letter J). This is an area Martin Luther and Iohn Calvin would seek to reform without question.

The 1629 KJV and modern versions have preached another Jesus versus the Lord IESVS that Erasmus' Greek NT/William Tyndales Bible translation/the Geneva Bible/Iohn Calvin/Theodore Beza/the holy martyrs/early Christians/and the Greek New Testament manuscripts testifies of faithfully. (II Cor. 11:4)
---Kev on 9/30/10

Kev, you did not answer me on Revelation. What was different, that changes the meaning of Scripture. I still say that you learning that there is no J on Jesus but an L changes nothing or help anyone knowing that. It does not change the meaning where Jesus is mentioned. It only gives you satisfaction that you know. But can you change the sound of His name to save someone? Or witness to someone? Now a word change can make a lot of difference as in the case of John 1:1,2. Where the N.W.T has changed the meaning from God to "a" god. Now that is a case of manipulation of Scripture to prove He is not God. I still don't see the importance in meaning for Christ. You even change the letters on Jeremiah for what purpose?
---MarkV. on 9/30/10

I disagree. The letter J was not in any languages whatsoever (including Hebrew, Greek, Latin, English, & c.) all the way up to the 1500s.

It was undoubtedly a Roman Catholic (Gian Giorgio Trissino) that invented the letter J in the 16th Century. The Puritans (these good Christians) certainly frowned upon Christmas trees... i.e. because of Ieremiah 10:1-4. How much more would they frown upon the letter J Candy Cane being hanged on Christmas trees! Alas, as Iohn Foxe confessed, our heartes haue been full of idoles.

The letter J was introduced in the 1629 KJV (as Jesus instead of Iesvs). Exactly two years later, the 1631 KJV was printed which deleted ''not'' from ''Thou shalt not commit adulterie''. How mortifying.
---Kev on 9/29/10

\\In Erasmus' Greek New Testament (the one that Martin Luther and William Tyndale used to translate the New Testament out of), has no J. The Holy Gospel according to Matthewe 1:21, And she shal bring forthe a sonne, and thou shalt call his name IESVS: for he shal saue his people from their sinnes. (the Geneva Bible)

I wish to stay with the manner that Theodore Beza pronounced Iesvs Christ's name.\\

Following Latin use, Js and Is were interchangeable, as were U and V.

So this orthography is not significant.
---Cluny on 9/29/10

The name of the Lord is extremely important. In Hebrew language (after reading the 1560 Geneva Bible Hebrew Interpretations Table), I'm convinced that our Sauiour's name in Hebrew is Ieshua (pronounced as Yeshua) meaning Sauiour. If anyone can correct me on this, nothing would make me more glad. In Erasmus' Greek New Testament (the one that Martin Luther and William Tyndale used to translate the New Testament out of), has no J. The Holy Gospel according to Matthewe 1:21, And she shal bring forthe a sonne, and thou shalt call his name IESVS: for he shal saue his people from their sinnes. (the Geneva Bible)

I wish to stay with the manner that Theodore Beza pronounced Iesvs Christ's name.
---Kev on 9/29/10

Kev, I like most of your answers and think you do a great job many times. I love to read what you and others put down, but here the topic of the letter "J" when in reality everyone knows it is talking about Jesus. I think little stuff like that does confuse those who just started learning. There is many changes the writers made through history, but the meaning remains the same. I found a few words in passages added, one is "Baptism" found in Matt. 20:23 which my information tells me was not in the originals,. But what do you have concerning Revelation that was added or change? I have nothing on that.
---MarkV. on 9/28/10

Hopefully this will help. The Lord told John to in Rev 1:19 "write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter"

-the things thou has seen: is Chpt 1, is the vision Jesus visiting him on earth to write Revelations
-the things which are: are Chpt 2 & 3, is to the churches of the grace dispensation age (that's us now)
-the things which shall be hereafter: are Chpts 4-22, is to whom ever is left behind.
Read Rev 4:1 where he calls John to come up to heaven where He must show him things that will happen thereafter.

---sandrad67 on 9/27/10

Revelation is one of the books of prophecy, in the bible. It tells of things,yet to come.The tribulation,the battle of armageddon and so forth. You can go to any bible site and study the book of revelation. Or Google, Revelation and boatloads of studies should come up for you. Giving you a better understanding of this book of the bible. A good bible concordance and commentary is a great bible aid to have in your possession.
---Robyn on 9/21/10

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After reading II Corinthians 11:4 in Erasmus' Greek New Testament 1522/William Tyndales New Testament/and the Geneva Bible, I am perplexed at how Jesus came about the last few hundred years. Is it Iesus or Jesus?

Have the 1629 KJV and modern versions preached another ''Iesus''? By changing the spelling and pronunciation of ''Iesus'' to ''Jesus'', which was previously unknown to all Christendom in the last 1500 plus years until the 1629 KJV introduced ''Jesus'' and likewise modern versions.

No wonder why so many good Christians complain that the Church is apostate/lukewarm/cold, because the KJV and modern versions preach not Iesus, but another Jesus.

Iesus Christ is correct. The letter J and Jesus are of a recent invention.
---Kev on 9/20/10

"The KJV of the bible is correct, and accurate, every word. To claim that it isn't is to call God a liar"

When did God say the KJV is entirely accurate?.
---alan8566_of_uk on 9/19/10

The KJV of the bible is correct, and accurate, every word. To claim that it isn't is to call God a liar. In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. God wrote the book, using human hands. If anyone thinks One word of the bible is incorrect, Then they are not a TRUE believer.
---jeff on 9/18/10

It is true that the Book of Revelation is clouded in mystery. That said, the clouds may be lifted if one considers reading up on their history.

For instance, the Second Coming of Christ - already happened.

Christ told his disciples that He would return before they could spread the word to all the towns in Israel. He told them that "THIS" generation would not pass away before His return. Christ said that even those who pierced Him would see His return. Our Lord said that the other disciples would be killed, but St. John would still be alive at His return.

A.D. 70 seems to be the year of Christ's second coming and this is confirmed through scripture and by looking at the historical account.
---Higgins on 9/18/10

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One does not learn it with a 2 year degree from some "bible college" and many professors who have studied it all there lives, are still in the dark. The Anti-Christ is not a person or institution, but an Ideal (modernism and liberalism, are the key factors). One needs to always study the Book of Daniel in contrast to the Revelations. The Rapture, the Pope being the Anti-Christ, and many other errors are fostered by misunderstanding of biblical history and figurative language. If one is secure in Christ, they should not concern themselves too much with the "end of the world" talk, which only generates fear and ignorance--the enemy's great weapons. It is a fascinating subject, but some take it too far.
---Jerald_Archer on 9/16/10

It is astounding how many people believe the book of Revelation has already taken place, has already been fulfilled.
---mima on 9/13/10

Really Mima, how do they explain sleeping through the end of the "Season of the Gentile", the rebuilding of the Temple, Satan being revealed and the Abomination of Desolation?

Are they suggesting the whole world slept through such happenings?

Good grief, I hope your wrong on "many" people.

Take care.
---larry on 9/15/10

It is no wonder why so many people have trouble understanding Revelation today- for the Pre-Trib teachers have closed the Book of Revelation like a seal so no man can spy out the true meaning and its applications to today's events.

How did the Pre-Trib teachers accomplish this? They write and teach that the Pre-Tribulation Rapture is yet to come in Revelation 4:1. So therefore, according to their very own words, the only thing that's happened in the Book of Revelation is Christ exhorted the seven Churches 2,000 years ago in the first three chapter of Revelation.

Is that all that's happened in the Book of Revelation the past two thousand years... that the seven Churches were exhorted in the first three chapters, and nothing else?
---Kev on 9/15/10

In respect to the original question...

It's because of King James. That king stripped William Tyndale's/Myles Coverdale's/and the Geneva Bible's notes.

The Puritans and Pilgrims that brought the Geneva Bible to North America in the face of religious persecution had an excellent understanding of Revelation. If you truly desire to understand the Book of Revelation much better, read the Geneva Bible.

The sense of the Scriptures is completely lost with the KJV/modern versions in the Book of Revelation and is open to all kinds of interpretations and fained imaginations.

William Tyndale's and his best friend Myles Coverdale's interpretations of the Book of Revelation in the Geneva Bible is the best.

Fare well.
---Kev on 9/15/10

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Use uriah Smith "DANIEL AND THE REVELATION" book.

this is the absolute best book on bible prophecy.
---francis on 9/14/10

It is astounding how many people believe the book of Revelation has already taken place, has already been fulfilled.
---mima on 9/13/10

The book of Revelation is not one but many revelations of the resurrected Christ to the Apostle John the beloved. a few of those revelations and prophecies were directed to those in his day, but I believe that the vast majority pertained to us in our day. If anyone doubts this, then please show the account of the fulfillment thereof. I may in the near future present a comprehensive overview and explanation of the book of revelation. If so I will post it's site location link here. May the Lord bless you in your search of this wonderful book.
---Glenn on 9/12/10

You all have it wrong so far.
Satan is the anti christ as 1 john tells us Christ refers to Daniel because Satan rules the churches and Judgment start there.There is no earthy kingdom or person. Satan is spirit. read rev 3 that church is dead and its a warning to churches now. All churches teach dotrines of men now.Daniel and Rev, are opened but only to those who are true believers
---dan on 5/10/08

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The Book of Revelation is about the letters to 7 churches and the 21 judgements as well as descriptions of the main players in the Tribulation - the Great Whore, the Antichrist, False Prophet,Two Witnesses,10 kings....
The Great Whore is a false religion - probably a one-world faith
---Allison on 5/9/08

If your Grandfather is raised from the Dead as all will be then yes He will see JESUS come in the clouds. So the resurrection of the dead comes before the return of JESUS enabling all to see Him come.

Since the resurrection has not happened then the second coming is still future.
---Samue on 5/7/08

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---catherine on 5/7/08

Your logic is flawed here. Even if he comes in the future, my dead grandfather will not have seen him come from clouds. Therefore, it is understood that John meant every eye during that time which included the eyes of those who pierced him.
---Reuben on 5/6/08

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Howdy Reuban

You are mistaken. We are all Christian brothers since we are all Born again children of GOD.

Some of the events of Revelation apply to them some to us. The seven letters to the churches had direct meaning to those churches but people like the ones mentioned live in all churches.

Since not every Eye has seen JESUS come that cannot have happened yet. So it must be future. I am a historical Premillinealist. You sound like a amillineal Preterist. Am I correct?
---Samuel on 5/6/08

John also says in Revelation 1:9 that "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation...." If Revelation talks about the end of the world, then John can't be our companion, can he? But he was a companion to the church back then. Revelation 1:7 says "Behold, he cometh with clouds, and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him...." This is not talking about the end of the world if those who pierced him shall see him.
---Reuben on 5/5/08

Revalation chapter 1 states these events will "shortly come to pass" and the "time is at hand," therefore we know revelation is not talking about the end of the world. The book is called The Revelation of Jesus Christ, and yet matthew 24:36 says "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my father only." Here Jesus admits only his father knows the time of his coming, therefore the Revelation of Jesus Christ cannot be about the end of the world
---Reuben on 5/5/08

Sherry is mostly correct.Parts of the Revelation happen around70A.D. The destruction of the Temple.Other parts are imaging from The Holy Mass/cerebrated daily as Jesus demanded at the Last Supper.
Jesus returns once.(Not,1and1/2)as a drive through to pick up the Save. NO, only once. If you are living during this time you will have to endure until Jesus comes.
RCC is around during the time of the destruction of the temple.
Revelation is the completed explanation of God's Salvation Plan.
---Nicole on 4/27/08

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If we trust Jesus we stay safe in his arms. We won't have to worry about any evil things.
---SusieQ on 4/26/08

Introduction to Revelation: It is the only prophetical book in the new testament. [contrast to 17 in the old testament] The only book which begins by promising a special blessing on those who study it, and ends by promising special curse on those who add ot take away from it.>>>Part 2>4-5 Worship of the Lamb invited. Part 3.5-19 Wrath of the Lamb Invoked. Part 4.>20: 1-15. Reign of the Lamb instituted. Part 5.>21-22 Wife of the Lamb introduced.
---catherine on 4/26/08

That book starts out with the five words "the revelation of Jesus Christ". In other words, that book is about the unveiling of Jesus Christ in His body. Not a scary thing at all really. I could give you some examples of the redemptive view of that book. If you are interested, please contact me through my profile linda9974. My personal e-mail address in in there.
---Linda_Smith on 4/25/08

Catholics didnt exist when it was written, it wasnt against them. Geesh...
---Sherry on 8/23/07

If catholics did not exist - how does the RCC get papal succession from Peter?

Sherry - Rev is a prophetic book - past-present-future

it is possible to glean much from it for today - I like to look at how Christ judges the churches - I personalize it (though not not its intent its good to see what Jesus thinks is important).
No one fully grasps Rev. - thanks - I don't either
---Andrea on 8/25/07

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I already heard it all before, I know the RCC teaches that everything in Revalation has already taken place and that it is not a credible book, and probably never should have been part of the Bible.

Again I have been in the system for the majority of my life and I have heard it all before.
---Marcia on 8/23/07


Keep searching:

I would challenge you to lean not on your own understanding but pray for the Holy Spirit to guide you when it comes to the WORD of GOD. However all this is not going to help if your not saved, so I'll pray for your Salvation Sherry.
---Marcia on 8/23/07

Marcia. Rev. was written approx 95C.E. by an unknown but probable follower of John. The Beast was Rome, it has nothing to do with today. Catholics didnt exist when it was written, it wasnt against them. Geesh...
---Sherry on 8/23/07

Good answer Steveng: I also want to add that God will Honor you Sue in your quest to understand the book of Revalation, don't give up- God has spoken if anyone ask for wisdom he will give it to them. Seek wisdom, seek knowledge, and seek understanding. Look to God he will illuminate your understanding.
---Marcia on 8/23/07

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Sue, don't you worry your little heart about Revelation. As you read these posts, everyone has an opinion. Just be AWARE of the simple prohesies concerning the end-times like Matthew 24, etc. As long as you do the two commandments Jesus spoke of in the NT and God spoke of in the OT you are guaranteed a place in heaven. Trust God and pray that you and your family and friends are worthy enough to the protection of God during the tribulation.
---Steveng on 8/22/07

Sherry: of course you would say that your a Catholic. Catholic have never been able to accept the book of revalation because they are one of the main character in this prophecy.

The Seven Heads represent seven Nations, the dragon always represent Satan. You must know your history and have unwaviering faith to understand the book of Revalation.
---Marcia on 8/22/07

Revelations probably shouldnt have been included in the canon. It refers to the persecution of Rome. Fundies drag all sorts of scripture from dozens of books together and claim you can figure out God's plan. There are as many explanations as their are televangelists.
---Sherry on 8/22/07

John wrote Revelation to a group of people at a certain era in time that would have understood the apocolyptic style of writing.

Get a copy of Dr. Scott Hahn's "The Lamb's Supper" if you want a more clear understanding of Revelation.
---Sheila on 8/21/07

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Read Daniel too - it will help. The last time there was a one-world ruler, was during the time of Rome (the 7 hills). The rulers of this world have been a powerful force that persecuted God's people throughout history. The wounded head that comes to life, might be referring to the returning of a one-world ruler.
---Debby3588 on 8/21/07

Sue, to understand Revelation, you have to first understand Daniel. And remember to pray for understanding as you study. A love of truth is also needed as 2 Thess 2 says that those who don't have a love of Truth will be under a strong delusion. Be prepared to have your preconceived ideas challenged.
---robin8683 on 8/21/07

A working knowledge of the Tabernacle of Moses and the Feasts of the Lord is helpful. Also, the only way to understand the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ is redemptively, that is, through an undestanding of the person and work of Christ. Christ and Him crucified is woven throughout every book of the Bible, including Revelation.
---Linda_Smith on 8/20/07

Seven Is A Portion And Theme Throughout Scripture. The One Whom Moves Throughout These Seven Is God Whom Created The Seven As A Service Used For Seeing Hearing Smelling Speaking & Eating .... The Head Of The Assembly Is Seven As In The Head Of God's Form Is Seven .... 2 Eyes 2 Ears 2 Nostrils And One Mouth = 7, Whom Rule Over 5, 2 Breasts One Navel One Urinary One Anal......Together The 7 + 5 = The 12 Gates Into God's Heavenly Body, The Body You Are Dwelling In Thank God .......IEOUA
---IEOUA on 7/9/05

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Peter knew who Jesus was but not what He came to do. Knowing what Jesus came to do is just as important as knowing who Jesus is. It is His work that got rid of who we were in Adam. If you don't know that, you will function the rest of your life believing you are a sinner...and what you believe drastically effects your conviction, your conversation, and your conduct. What you don't believe He did, you will try to do Judas.
---Linda_Smith on 6/25/05

When Peter said, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God", Jesus told him that flesh and blood had not revealed this to him but His Father in heaven. Just moments after that, Jesus begins to tell them that He was going to be delivered into the hands of sinful men, die, and be raised the third day. Peter said, "It can't be so" and Jesus said to him whom He had just called a rock, "Get thee behind me Satan for you know not the things of God."
---Linda_Smith on 6/25/05

That would be ALMIGHTY GOD you are speaking of there, right Rebecca? He has, in Christ, already defeated the devil and he has only as much power as the BELIEVER will allow him. The devil is defeated and we are to enforce that defeat.
---Linda_Smith on 6/25/05

Christians who believe that are offended by the message of grace in its purest form because it removes that "flesh thinking" and living in own strength. To hear the things of God, we must be willing to lay aside what we have heard all our lives if what we have heard all our lives is not grounded in the person and work of Christ. You will never grow further than your desire to truly know God's heart concerning who His Son is and what His Son did on behalf of humanity.
---Linda_Smith on 6/25/05

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We were removed from Egypt by the death of the Lamb. However, we still have some Egyptian thinking that needs removing (the renewing of the mind) and the only things those Egyptian sorcerers (which represent the thoughts of the carnal mind) responded to were the signs and wonders of the plagues. I mean, one who is still functioning out of an old covenant mindset is still living with the "if I do this, God will do that" mentality (by debt, not by grace).
---Linda_Smith on 6/25/05

Linda, how can all these horses signifty the work of Jesus? Famine, War, when did Jesus do these kinds of work? I may not understand some parts of the bible, but this I do understand. If you would read in ch 8 it tells about the great plagues, ch 9 tells of Satan having the key to the bottomless pit. Meaning satan has the power to do whatever he wants, to whomever he wants, and God won't stop him, he is allowing him to do such things. I am a simple person, please read carefully with a spiritual mind.
---Rebecca_D on 6/25/05

That white horse signifies Jesus' earth walk of holiness. The bow signifies the covenant and the crown he was given was a crown of thorns. He walked above death in His earth walk and He conquered death in His resurrection. All of those horses signify some aspect of the work of Jesus, not the antichrist.
---Linda_Smith on 6/24/05

I am glad you understand what is being written. I understand the bigger part of it. But I think what my problem is not the understanding but the "seeing" part of it. I know that I will be in heaven when God's wrath will take place, I just can't grasp the "seeing" part of it. Do I make sense? One book I do have trouble on is Proverbs. Maybe it is my blonde hair? Ha!
---Rebecca_D on 6/24/05

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Elder, could you do the outline here on this 'blog'? That would be awesome and I'd really appreciate it! I need all the help I can get.
---sue on 6/24/05

Rebecca_D I have already told you that people come out of the 3 hr lesson with a working knowledge of the Book.

The two churches I did this in last year learned. People that don't learn are normally not being taught.

I have been doing this in Churches for years.

For instance do you know how many revelations are in the book? There is only one.
Cond #2-->
---Elder on 6/24/05

Cond #2-->
Do you know what it is?
It is the revealing of Jesus Christ as Almighty God?

The Book tells us that "These things must shortly come to pass" before that is completed.

There is a rider on a white horse in chapter 6 that people mistake for Christ yet he is antichrist.
Cond #3--->
---Elder on 6/24/05

Cond #3--->
That is how simple this book is. Sign up for penpal. I can tell you how to have this done in your church no matter where it is.

Because you don't understand doesn't mean it can't be done. I do not teach 6 year olds on a 50 year old level nor the other way around. If you heard the presentation you would understand so much you would also say is an easy book.

There is much good materiel available to train you. I'll share an outline with you here if you want it to help you.
---Elder on 6/24/05

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I don't have penpal, to contact you. The bigger question is how many people understand what you taught? People learn on different levels. Just because you have a chart, and paper hand outs that doesn't mean people understand. I think because they can't grasp of what is going to take place, their carnal mind won't let the spiritual mind take charge to understand.
---Rebecca_D on 6/24/05

Rebecca_D The Book can be taught in that time. I do it. I use charts, graphs and handouts and go through the entire Book.

Revelation is a simple book to understand when you place the events in the proper order.

John was a 90 year old man seeing things that had never been described or seen before.

Contact me at elder2291 and I'll explain more to you.
---Elder on 6/23/05

Revelation 1:1-3 ..... 3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it: for the time is near.

With a promise like the above I wanted to read Revelation. A Study bibe(NIV - New International Version Study Bible) helps. And as some have suggested, read some and then read other parts of the Bible until they all fit together.
---barbara67 on 6/22/05

I don't see how the entire book can be taught in 3 hours. In my sunday school class we have been on it for 3 months. 1 1/2 of teaching. Someone maybe able to teach it for 3 hours, but does anyone understand what has been taught? If not then it will take more than 3 hours of teaching.
---Rebecca_D on 6/22/05

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If you will contact me at elder2291 I will suggest the best and most simple books on the Revelation written with the best understanding I ever read. I always suggest these books to anyone seeking.

Remember Revelation is NOT a closed book as some think and there is only ONE revelation in the book.

This entire Book can be taught in about three hours with the student leaving with a working understanding of what is going on.
---Elder on 6/22/05

First, off there is no "s" in Revelation.

Next, its is a symbolic and allegorical book with many figures and metaphors and symbols used elsewhere in the Bible.

If you find Revelation puzzling--and many do--leave it alone and concentrate on another part of the Bible, such as the Holy Gospels.
---Jack on 6/22/05

Pier I will gladly send you my address, as I do want to understand this book of our Bible. Where is your email address at?
---sue on 6/22/05

Those of Babylon that were redeemed followed through Purification, The Lamb ...960 Hours, 40 days/40 Nights ...960 Divided by 666 = 144~, The Priesthood ... Then many rose into Heaven as the LoinCutting was no more being lead by a child & saved in Childbirth ...Heaven & Earth Is Made Anew ...Thank God Who Has Opened Scriptures And Released Captives Bringing Justice To Earth Dismissing Evil And Redeeming God's People From Their Oppressors & Healing The Nations From Their Iniquities ...IEOUA
---IEOUA on 6/22/05

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Revelation is as the LAST as Genesis Is As The FIRST within the bible library .... Consider the snake, eve & adam in Genesis to be the Dragon, False Prophet & Abomination In Revelation. The Snakedragon lead God's people into cutting in the body's middle.....FalseprophetEve believed & AbominationAdam was the result .... Babylon was the city built on Bob-A-Loin, the slaying of the people's brothers in God, as in Kain's City built on cutting Able....IEOUA
---IEOUA on 6/22/05

I have come across a very easy study guide for the study of Daniel and Revelation. If you send me your adress by E-mail I will send you copy of it. I am sure it will help you and I am very happy that you want to understand it. It will make sense of a lot of last day events for you.
---Pierr7958 on 6/21/05

This is one book that one's mind can't understand. It takes the spirit to make an understanding. We are studying this in Sunday School and at times is confusing. The dragon means Satan, he drew 1/3 part of the angels (stars) and cast them onto earth with him. Snakes represent enemy. It is speaking metaphorically.
---Rebecca_D on 6/21/05

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