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Can Christians Drink A Beer

While at a pro baseball game with my church, my daughter observed some people from the church drinking beer. She said that at her church, they would be asked to leave the church. I have no problem with people drinking alcohol in moderation. Obviously, neither does my church. Any thoughts?

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Alan, comming from someone living in a nation where pipewater has more taste then beer, this cannot be taken serious. (hey the irish brew better beer then the brits). now the Haggis you roastboil? in Scotland is delicious, and the kippers are marvelous but beer is no domain of the brits
---Andy on 6/2/09

I have no trouble with someone who can drink one or two and quit.I personally hate the taste and smell of alcoholic beverages.
---shirley on 5/27/09
I used to be like that, but now see it as an "acquired taste". It is not a lot different then coffee or blue cheese...But I still do get annoyed at the breath of "drunks"...fortunately I am never around them. I used to get hit on by drunk women at the pipe organ pizza resturant in the town I used to live in. I have never been back for a pizza there since...It is too embarrasing...LOL
---obewan on 5/28/09

I have no trouble with someone who can drink one or two and quit.I personally hate the taste and smell of alcoholic beverages.
---shirley on 5/27/09

Andy ... "I'm Belgian, and as everyone knows (except the Germans of course) we brew the best beer in the world"

That is totally wrong. Neither the Belgians nor the Germans brew beer! Not proper beer, anyway.
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/27/09

I suppose to stop drinking is rather a question of love, not a law. However i have nothing against a glass of beer in general. Im Belgian, and as everyone knows (except the Germans of course) we brew the best beer in the world. However with manny that i met who enjoy the biblical liberty to drink a pint, i found that they rather have a "law against not drinking" it goes so far that some even are willing to offend their brothers. this should not be. i have learned that Christians can easely be without and therefore i encourage people to give it up as a sacrifice of love (as the nazareans where required).
---Andy on 5/27/09

My current church does not have a problem with it, but I have attended churches that do forbid any drinking whatsoever.

In the past, I have always respected and abided by the membership rules. However, I have never attended any church that ever spoke against over eating. LOL

Since I have the freedom, I drink just 12 oz of beer a day. That amount is proven to be very healthy for the heart and arteries.

I have never ever been drunk, and I have never wanted more than just one beer. And all it requires is the same discipline that is used to not over eat if the urge ever comes. I think far more damage is done by obesity, diabetes, and heart disease since those have overtaken deaths from alcohol.
---obewan on 5/26/09

If your views are not supported by Christ's example, they are not biblical. Jesus drank, made wine and I'm sure made the Pharisees "stumble". We always assume the "weaker" brother is anyone who is offended by what we do. When actually that would be the "older" brother, the "weaker" would be someone who doesn't have a solid biblical worldview and would be going against their conscience because their actions are not in faith. I always get a little broken hearted for those who take themselves out of different aspects of God's grace because they are aspiring to some extra biblical level of holiness.
---Chase on 5/25/09

A curse to not be able to drink it, Isaiah 1:22, 24:11, Micah 6:15.
Offerings, Exodus 29:40, Numbers 15:4-10.
Medicine, 2Samuel 16:2, Proverbs 31:6, 1Timothy 5:23.
Made glad, Psalm 104:15, Ecclesiastes 10:19.
A blessing, Genesis 14:18, Proverbs 9:2, 5, Ecclesiastes 9:7, Isaiah 25:6, 55:1, Amos 9:14, Zechariah 10:7, Matthew 26:29, John 2:3-11, 1Corinthians 10:16.
Drunkenness forbidden: Esther 1:10-12, Proverbs 20:1, 23:29-35, 31:4-5, Isaiah 5:11, 28:7, Hosea 4:11, Joel 3:3, Amos 6:6, Luke 21:34, Romans 13:13, Ephesians 5:18, 1Timothy 3:8, Titus 1:7.
Priests in tabernacle, Leviticus 10:9, and Nazarites, Numbers 6:3.
Consider weaker brother, Romans 14:1-15:7 and 1Corinthians 8:3-13.
Wine: H3196 yayin, G3631 oinos.
---Glenn on 5/13/09

Christians love to say drinking in moderation is ok. Yet BIBLICALLY, which is what they so often use to back up their justification fo drinking. Did you know the Cannonites would call us barbarians for the alcohol content used in our drinks! Why did Jesus drink wine? Well it was to kill the bacteria's that were in the water of those days. It was a mixed ratio that would be like taking a glass of wine today and pouring it into a 15 gallon drum Seriously. I am anti legalism by all means, but we must understand what the Bible is referring to in CONTEXT and not just use it to justify our opinions.
---Jai on 4/16/09

I think we need look no further than Jesus' own example on this. He was perfectly comfortable to drink wine, and clearly thought it was something to be enjoyed. We have no record of him ever becoming drunk though. His example is clearly one of 'enjoy in moderation'.
---Graham on 1/12/09

This is a subject that I struggled with for years as a Christian. But things have changed and because of what the Lord spoke to me, I haven't touched alcohol in over 7 years. Do I think Christians should drink alcohol? No, drinking has brought so much devastation to so many people (dui accidents, addiction, abuse, etc) how can we as Christians support it in any way?! Read the scriptures that talk about beer and/or wine. They are all mostly WARNINGS. Why play with fire?
---Matt on 12/31/08

Scripture doesn't condemn drinking alcohol in moderation, but in fact recommends it. Some on these pages are nothing but legalists and are a 'holier than thou' problem for the whole church.

We Christians are commanded to be people of moderation however it is common to see Christians who are gluttons for food which is extremely unhealthy and a bad example for others. No legalist here condemns this sin. Why not? Somewhat unbalanced and legalistic I believe.

I drink wine with dinner most days and will continue to do so until and if my Lord, and no one else, tells me to stop.
---Warwick on 11/18/08

Remember, Jesus did do the bit where he changed water into wine, and did so at a gathering where people were most likely going to get pretty hammered (I make this assumption based on the part where the man says that mostly they pull out the worst wine later after no one can tell). Beer drinking is associated with some lewd behaviors, but it is not a sin. There are some people, like recovering alcoholics, for whom drinking even a small amount could be harmful, but for a healthy body housing a sound mind, it shouldn't be a problem. It is much more the context for the drinking and the people involved that should be considered. And ultimately, I don't think it is what goes into our mouths but what comes out of them that has God most concerned.
---Sarah on 11/16/08

Scott and Gayla said some very wise things here. It would be wise not to drink in the public eye, if it might cause your brother to stumble. This is an area that you have to think about with wisdom and discretion.
---Anne on 11/16/08

The Bible is not specifically against alcohol (Jesus's very first miracle was turning water into wine, and wine is recomended for an upset stomach). However, it DOES condemn drunkenness, and cautions cautions about the various lapses in judgment that excessive drinking can lead to.

If you can drink without it affecting your judgment, or becoming a compulsion, it's probably OK for you. Otherwise, you should avoid it. (I typically average well under one drink per month, so it isn't a problem for me).
---StrongAxe on 11/16/08

Melanie, these are always issues of the heart vs. the holy spirit.
Pray until you know, pray until you know, pray until you know.
We know legalism is not of God
Is your question out of a desire to become closer to God?
Is your question out of a desire to impact the world with the love of Jesus Christ.

Ask God to show you through his scripture and pray that you have the same desires as he AND the same priorities as he.

Once your heart is where his is it will answer all of your questions.

Ephesians 5:1 .."be imitators of Christ"
---larry on 11/16/08

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I am a Christian and I have not had a drink for 8 years. None. But I want to start drinking again. Why? Because I feel that I have become pretty legalistic. I really look down on others because they drink as Christians. It's not wrong to drink. I think my heart attitude is worse than drinking, to be honest.
---Melanie on 11/16/08

The bible says if we have faith, to have it to ourselves, and to not do anything to cause our brother to stumble. In other words, to you it may be ok, to your brother, it may be a sin. So... do not cause your brother to stumble.
---Gayla on 8/17/08

I do not believe drinking a beer in itself is a sin. However we are not to do anything that may cause somebody else to stumble. We are also supposed to be an example of how Christ wants us to live. Drinking at all can become a very slippery slope.

That said, I do enjoy a glass of wine now and then or a beer,but I have caught myself being tempted to drink more than I should.
---Scott on 8/15/08

How come people miss Prov 31:4-5? Has not God made Christians Kings and Priest? Well, forgetting these verses is a good way to not understand what God is saying.
v6- Perish = "Abad" meaning to be lost.
Heavy = "Mar" meaning bitter.
Drinking causes people to forget the law and pervert judgement.
If you are ready to be lost and are bitter go on and drink. Just remember Prov 20:1
---Elder on 6/1/08

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Theres nothing wrong with enjoying a drink now and then.Proverbs 31:6 "Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.".God made life to be enjoyable (within reason don't get crazy) so praise The lord and celebrate him and the gifts hes given you.
---brian on 5/29/08

The real answer to that question is motive. why are you drinking alcohol? i know personally, i may drink in moderation avoiding complete drunkedness, but the only reason i drink is for the buzz which is the beginning stage of drunkedness. my motive is to get as close to drunk without sinning which i believe is still wrong.
---candise on 12/25/07

This is a complex issue which there is no simple answers. A good book that help me sort through this issue is called Drinking With Calvin & Luther by Jim West Oakdown books.
---Jason on 11/17/07

I used to enjoy beer but the taste left years ago, but I do like wine, I drink wine maybe a couple times a year if I am lucky.I myself don't think it is wrong as long as you stay home and behave yourself and don't let it take you over.mary4964
---mary4964 on 3/6/07

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AlanOfUk, Yes there are blackbirds here in America too. I agree with you that a person may drink and not become drunk; but I do caution drinkers to know that many people have become intoxicated (for a little bit of poison can poison the whole being) and many have lost their lives to alcohol-either directly or indirectly- with only just one drink. I believe that abstinence is a good thing, and it is also a good thing to purify your body which houses the Holy Spirit.
---Eloy on 8/20/06

While the Christian has freedom to drink or eat whatever, we must be responsible.

Scripture tells us to "Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak." 1 Cor. 8:9

Frankly, if you do drink, it is best to keep these things to yourself in consideration of the fact that one drink can cause problems with some.
---lee on 8/19/06

Bruce5656, Caffeine is listed as a drug also but most all christians drink coffee. I don't drink coffee but then I never liked the taste.
---Thomas_D. on 8/19/06

Eloy ... # 3 actually, if the truth be told, not all blackbirds are black birds. All male blackbirds are black birds, but female blackbirds are brown birds.
And, any USAF men may correct me, but I think that Blackbirds were supersonic spy-planes ... the SR71
End of nonsense!!
---alan8869_of_UK on 8/19/06

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Eloy ... # 2 we have very wise saying here "All blackbirds are black birds, but not all black birds are blackbirds"
That thought can be used in this present debate "All drunkards drink alcohol, but not all who drink alcohol are drunkards"
---alan8869_of_UK on 8/19/06

Eloy ... # 1 The blackbirds don't actually fall off the branches, but fly off a bit erratically, and if they fly on to the ground they wander around a bit aimlessly!
I don't know if you have Blackbirds in America. They are members of the thrush family, aboout 9 inches long.
We of course have other black birds, such a crows and cormorants and many others.
---alan8869_of_UK on 8/19/06

I enjoy having a couple beers with friends. Or having people over for dinner and sharing a bottle of wine. There is no problem having an after dinner cocktail such as a white russian or a margarita. The problem occurs when you become a drunkard. Getting drunk routinely is a sin. Having alcohol in moderation is not a problem just don't get drunk.
---Ryan on 8/19/06

AlanOfUk, you're funny, drunken blackbirds?..i can imagine them now, their falling off the branches...hiccup.
Personally, i do not drink alcohol. But here is the truth:
1. God appoves of drinking wine.
2. God condemns drunkenness.
3. Nondrinkers, judge not drinkers; and drinkers, judge not nondrinkers.
Conclusion= A christian may drink, but not get drunk, for drunkards are condemned. Colossians 2:16,17; Romans 14:17,18; I Corinthians 6:9-11; I Corinthians 10:30,31.
---Eloy on 8/19/06

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Eloy ... For you, you wish not to drink alcohol, and I'm glad you don't condemn those who do drink in moderation. As you say, drunkeness is the sin to be avoided, and we can drink alcohol without getting drunk.
Jack ... in fact fermentation in many cases starts while the grape is still on the vine. Many is the jolly drunken blackbird who has eaten my ripe grapes!
---alan8869_of_UK on 8/19/06

It is up to each individual as to whether they drink or not. It does paint a negative picture of Christianity. And addiction starts with just one drink.
---Helen_5378 on 8/19/06

Did the Lord Jesus Christ drink alcoholic wine? Well let's look at some scripture. Scripture says that those standing by called Jesus a glutton and a wine bibber. Would people call a man who is drinking grape juice(or any nonalcoholic wine) a wine bibber? Each one of us gets to judge what the scriptures mean.
---mima on 8/19/06

Righteousness is much more than eating healthy or having temperance, and we should not judge one another over such things (Romans 14:13; Colossians 2:16). But we are commanded to be sober and to be holy, and also we know that our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit, and that no drunkards will inherit kingdom of God. Please read I Corinthians 6:9-11; I Thessalonians 5:4-11; Titus 2:6,11-15; I Peter 1:13-16; 4:7; 5:8,9. Therefore to me being "sober-minded" means not to drink alcohol.
---Eloy on 8/19/06

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Fermented cider is called "hard cider".

Non-alcoholic wines are fermented, then the alcohol (or most of it) is removed.
---Jack on 8/18/06

The Greek word OINOS always meant FERMENTED WINE in the Bible. Fermentation is a natural process. Without pasteurization, refrigeration, or preservatives, fresh squeezed grape juice will become one of two things: wine or vinegar. In fact, fermenation (apart from these processes) begins immediately upon crushing them.
---Jack on 8/18/06

so many think that every reference to wine must be alcoholic. incorrect . ever heard of cider-non alcoholic & alcoholic cider. non alcoholic and alcoholic wine
---r.w. on 8/18/06

nvB You have seen that the sin if there is any must be, not because alcohol is unnecessary, but because it is wrong for some other reason. And you have also identified where the sin lies ... when it is drunk to excess.
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/2/06

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Alan, eating food, and drinking nonalcoholic fluids are necessary in order to continue living; but drinking alcohol is not necessary to sustain life, nor are any of the other pleasures that you mentioned necessary.
---Eloy on 2/2/06

Matt. 26:29 I tell you I will not drink again of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Fathers kingdom.

Fret not! There will be plenty of wine to drink when we get to the Kingdom and we will even drink it with Jesus.

Pity the poor soul that believes drinking good wine is a sin!
---lee on 2/2/06

Part 2: When all is said and done, we must distinguish the use of wine from its abuse. Sometimes in Scripture gluttonous partaking of food is paralleled with immoderate drinking of wine (Deut. 21:20; Prov. 23:21). But food is not universally prohibited!
Anyone familiar with the saying: It's not what the alcohol brings to you, but what "YOU" bring to the alcohol....
---Fred_S. on 2/2/06

All prohibitions to partaking wine involve prohibitions either to immoderate consumption or to abusers: "Be not drunk with wine" (Eph. 5:18). "Do not be with heavy drinkers" (Prov. 23:20). "Do not be addicted to wine" (I Tim. 3:8; Tit.2:3). "Do not linger long over wine" (Prov. 23:30). Jesus is addressing the "ALCOHOLICS" of His day and time, such as we do in modern day "AA".
---Fred_S. on 2/2/06

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So, Rebecca, if I want to go out and rob a bank, or have sex with the neighbour's husband, or spread damaging gossip around town about someone, then it's all ok as long as I don't believe in myself that it's a sin? Great!!! I should enjoy my life then, doing whatever I want, and believing it's not wrong. Try it, and see what happens.
---Ann5758 on 2/2/06

I don't drink alcohol at all but I would be very upset if I heard that someone had been asked to leave a church because they did. Drinking alcohol is not a sin, otherwise Jesus would not have made it, and those people who believe that it is and would react in the way you describe should be reminded what Jesus said about 'those without sin casting the first stone'. What a dreadul witness they are to the love of God.
---M.P. on 2/2/06

its not wrong to drink,wat iz wrong is gettin drunk......
---mumbi on 2/2/06

Eating chicken, watching TV,drinking fruit juice etc. does NOT render you unable to drive a car and be in control. Nor does it blur your thinking, alcohol on the other hand does, especially in excess.
---NVBarbara on 2/2/06

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Eloy ... many things are unnecessary. It is unnecassary to eat chicken, to drink fruit juice, to ride a bicycle, to own a TV set, to ... the list is endless. yYou are quite right, it is unnecessary to drink alcohol ... that does not make it a sin.
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/2/06

drinking alcohol is unnecessary.
---Eloy on 2/2/06

pt 2 - 1 Peter2:5 "...are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God"
Rev 1:6 "made us kings and priests unto God"
Prov. 31:4 "It is not for kings to drink wine or strong drink"
Again, because I have experienced alcoholism, it is NOT WISE to drink.
Further reading in Prov. 20:1; 23:19-35
---douglas on 2/1/06

I heard a really good sermon on drinking. No where in the bible is having a drink comdemned, but drunkeness is. DRINKING IS NOT WISE FOR ANY CHRISTIAN. As a recovered obsessive compulsive drinker (I was hard core to the extreme)I know the dangers of how quickly alcohol abuse develops. As with Paul I say, rather be filled with the Spirit. Also we are not to do anything that might cause our brother or sister to stumble.
---douglas on 2/1/06

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It is a sin only if you believe it to be a sin. I do not drink any alcohol because I don't desire to. For when God came into my life, I am a changed person, I no longer do the things I used to do. But a person can't change unless they want to be changed.
---Rebecca_D on 2/1/06

What about Proverbs 31?

"Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.
Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more."

Granted, it's within the context of suggesting those in authority should NOT drink, so a contrast is being drawn, but it's right there...
---Steve on 2/1/06

Yes Drinking any Alcaholic beverage is a sin for when we accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and ask him to Come into our heart We no longer own this Temple we belong to Jesus for he bought us with a price .......his shed why dirty this temple(body) with cigaretts alcahol, drugs,...if you want to live like the Devil then why get Saved for .......You cant have it both ways. I say "Be ye Holy as i am Holy"....What Would Jesus Do?
---Lea on 9/19/05

When one has a beer or alchol beverage in their hand, it doesn't show good witness. It doesn't show christ-like. Even though Jesus made the water in to wine, he didn't get with his disciples and drink all night either.
---Jo on 9/19/05

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Hey Rod, how YOU doin'? I prefer Miller Lite. Fewer carbs, better taste. :-)
---Tina5349 on 9/19/05

don't be deceived, wine is a mocker and strong drink is raging. I have personally seen it all. It starts with one drink, just like porn, it starts with one look. Christians who drink do not have a good testimony. It doesn't taste good, look good and does no good. It makes you drunk. It makes you act like an idiot. I have seen that too.
---shira_5965 on 9/19/05

Yea Rod we can tell.
---Elder on 9/19/05

---rod on 9/19/05

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The Bible does not forbid the drinking of beverages such as wine and beer which are as old as the practice of agriculture. It forbids intoxication and therefore commands us to limit quanitity of intake. Spirits/hard liquor is not mentioned in the Bible. Christians should avoid spirits at all cost. Wine has health benefits if taken in moderation.
---Philip_P_Eapen on 8/31/05

Absolutely Madison I was referring to an MD not DR. Besides DR don't be so judgmental and commanding. If you feel the need not to drink don't but if you feel that is okay after prayerful consideration just remember don't get drunk. I am a tea-toter, because I am about to head up a Hispanic church and they as a culture enjoy their liquor too much and I feel that it is best to abstain in light of that.
---Auror3743 on 8/15/05

I know that...I'm saying that if you have a problem then it is a sin...don't do it.
---Auror3743 on 8/15/05

D.R. I believe the blog by Auror was referring to a DOCTOR and abbreviated it DR. Don't assume everything is referring to you.
---Madison on 8/10/05

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Alcohol should only be ingested by Christians for medicinal reasons (I Timothy 5:23). Other than that, alcohol is forbidden.

I ask that you never make assumptions on my part again. Thank you.
---D.R. on 8/10/05

You do not know me. I oppose both heretical liberalism as well as the pharisaism of adding to God's Word. I also stand against the sayings of those who do not even bother to find out the circumstances as to why God said what He did or those who refuse to follow the grammar of Christ's sayings, and as such, miss the whole point, and then enforce what they think God said rather than what He actually did.
---D.R. on 8/10/05

Rebecca - A prayer asking God to give you a willing heart is not just words. I highly recommend that you do a Bible study regarding the power and importance of words.
---DoryLory on 8/10/05

Aurora: The people who attend a 12 step program will tell you never drink another drink and you won't get drunk. It is all or nothing for the recovering alcoholics in AA. One drink is too many for recovering alcoholics. Drinking moderately is frowned upon in AA, unless you are NOT an alcoholic.
---Madison on 8/10/05

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A DR. will tell you alcohol in moderation is a good thing. I will be truthfull the Bible says not to get drunk but not don't drink at all. People must decide to do or not. If you feel in you heart that it's not right or it will ruin your witness it is best not to. For example: If you can't control your alcohol intake and you just got out of a 12 step's a sin but if you are with people who believe as you do and your witness won't be ruined enjoy..just don't get stinky butt drunk.
---Auror3743 on 8/10/05

The tone of your previous posts seem to leave no room for the person who drinks to say they have not been convicted yet that is the very excuse you use.Matthew 7:3, "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

You said "I know I should."James 4:17, "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin."
---Bruce5656 on 8/10/05

DoryLory, thanks, but if it don't come from the heart, it won't do any good, it is just words.
---Rebecca_D on 8/10/05

Rebecca - There is a powerful key in your words "I know I should." I've heard several people who were in a position similar to yours. They enjoyed smoking and they didn't want to quit but they knew they should. What they did ... and I believe this worked for all of them ... is prayed a prayer that went like this: "Lord, You know my heart and You know I enjoy smoking and You know I'm not willing to quit. But, Father God, if You want me to quit then I am willing to be made willing."
---DoryLory on 8/9/05

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The difference is God hasn't condemned me from smoking. Maybe he hasn't condmned others for drinking, only the person knows that. I am bein truthful here, I smoke cause I want to. The reason why I don't have faith in God to help me is because I don't to quit now. I know I should. But me smoking is between me and God same with others smoking is between them and God.
---Rebecca_D on 8/8/05

"I smoke because I want to." is no different than "I drink because I want to." It justifies nothing and is just an excuse.
What the question is is WHY? Why drink? It is a drug.

Why smoke? "Is it the taste, the buzz, the craving or a have to thing?" It too is a drug. If it is wrong to drink because it is a drug the same can be said for nicoteen.

The person who smokes marijuina will also say "Because I want to." etc. What is the difference?
---Bruce5656 on 8/8/05

I smoke because I want to. And I have said that if there was ANYTHING that was I was doing hindering someone else' walk with God for him to show me. Robert: there are some people out there who agravate my spirit. by doing such things. and if me smoking is hindering someone I need for God to let me know. What other people do has nothing to do with MY faith.
---Rebecca_D on 8/7/05

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