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I have heard it said that the Jewish people celebrated two very disinct kinds of holy days, the Sabbath and the sabbaths. Contrast the two for me.

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Pierr 7958, from your 'gentile' based answer, I see talking to or visiting a [Messianic] Jewish website or congregation for more precise, real, etc answers and truths relating to things given directly to them [Jews] by 'their' G_d, accepted by '(some) wild olive branches' grafted into their tree [Rom.11:1-12,(*13-22), 23-36] will answer your threats!

Apostle Paul in Phil.1:15-23.
---bob_[Elishama]_6749 on 8/15/07

Pierr-Which of the 10C has the command about not taking oaths? Which one has the command about turn the other cheek? (See Mt. 5/Ex22:24. Notice that Jesus is referring to what you've defined as *ordinances.*

Do you realize the Bible DOESN'T say the law hangs on 10C's.

God spoke more than 10C to Israel.Israel was to AFRAID to listen FURTHER after the 10C.But God spoke on.Does their FEAR make the rest of what He said less important?
---Sheila on 6/27/07

Pierr-You know well the 10C's of Dt.5.But how well do you know the C's of Dt.5&6 AFTER the 10C's? These God spoke also but the people were AFRAID to hear them (Dt. 5:25-31) How do you go about categorizing these under the 10C? (&categorizing the law under the 10C is NOT Biblical)
---Sheila on 6/27/07

10 CommS vs CerS

-10CS spoken by God's voice
-CS spoken by Moses
-10CS written by God's finger in stone/tablets
-CS written by Moses on parchment
NB. When we accept Jesus it does not mean that we have a licence to TRANSGRESS THE COMMANDMENTS!
As for the CS/laws they pointed to Jesus the true lamb slain for our sins and when He died, they became useless and "nailed to the cross.
---Pierr7958 on 6/20/07

pharisee, with your KJV Bible go to Ex 31:18, 32:15,16, 34:28, the 10 commandments of God..Deut 5:22 added no more after 10 commands and all written by God...Ex40:20 PUT INTO ARK.. Deut 31:24,25,26 Moses laws/ceremonial laws put in side of Ark, not inside. For these were temporary for when Jesus came He became the Lamb of sacrifice for us..John 14:15 if you love me KEEP MY COMMANDS..Not all Jews believe in Christ...
---jana on 8/19/06

Matt.5:17, Rev.19:11-21.

---bob5649_[Elishama] on 8/22/05

The Jewish people are commanded to keep/celebrate many "sabbaths" perpetually by God/Echad.

As long as there are Jews on earth, some will be celebrating those sabbaths days > the anti-Christ's being revealed [Dan.9:1-'27']!

Only way to understand the question is to keep in mind there will always be Jews & gentiles, even when "the times of the gentiles is accomplished" [Lke.21:20-24]!

Who now controls Jerusalem?
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/22/05

The SABBATH everyone keeps hammering is SATURDAY. If you break one point of the Law, you are guilty of ALL, so if you keep any ONE point, you must keep ALL.. Do you live by LAW or GRACE? No matter if God wrote with his finger or told someone else to write, it still came from God. If any of the law has passed away ALL has. It was given to teach us what sin was.. once we learn, we repent and are saved, the law has no more hold on us.. Live by the 2 New Testament Commandments and let the old die.
---David on 8/18/05

There's many hol(y)days the Jews were commanded to keep "perpetually" by God, as they pointed to YeSHUA/Jesus/Messias.

There's commemorative holidays also, marking certain events in their history [If the date of Hitler's death was known, he would have a day too, like Haman!].

Only one day in the Brith Chadasha [New Covenant] commanded for all to keep is "The Lord's Supper", Tenach hol(y)days still stand.

Visit a Messianic website for FACTS NOT DOCTRINES!
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/18/05

Bob 6749 Elishama
Allow me to suggest that in your answer all you did is repeat Janice's question. She asked how the two (sabbaths and Sabbaths) were different. I'll give you chance to answer her before I do. So don't be too loose and get her the answer she asked for.
---Pierr7958 on 8/18/05

There is a difference betweens Jew and gentile hol(y)days.

The seventh day sabbath's are distinct and different days from The Lord's Day, as is The Passover Supper, and The Lord's Supper! Lke.22:1-22.

I try keeping both, spiritually, 24/7.

Grace! It's All About Grace Now! Loosen Up!
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/15/05

I'm just a 2 year old Christian, and I've had a lot of questions.
I read in the NT that Jesus repeated all the commandments many times, except the one concerning the sabbath. Everyday is the Lord's day. Choose sat. or sun., it makes no difference to God. Jesus DID NOT tell His followers to observe Sat. to worship.
---Kathay on 8/13/05

1. Do you agree, after reading it again, that the "let no one judge you..." refers to the feast sabbath and not the 7th day Sabbath?
2. How do the 10 commandments differ from the ceremonial laws IN YOUR OPINION?
Read you later. God bless your study! Pierre
---Pierr7958 on 8/5/05

Darlene1: Don't be sorry for your blog. Just allow me some questions:
1. Are you suggesting that by paraphracing the law, Jesus means it is ok to ignore the detailed provisions of the law, like though shall not commit adultery, lie, steal etc?
2. Are you suggesting that the 10 commandments are for Jews only?
To be cont
---Pierr7958 on 8/5/05

Pierr,Sorry I must.Ten Commandments were summed up in the Two Commandments,love God with our everything(paraphraised)and neighbor as ourself.Commandments to Gentiles,Acts15:24,28,29 Paraphraised;No commandment to obey Jewish Laws.Holy ghost and Apostles lay no greater burden than;abstain from meats offered to idols,from blood,things strangled,and fornication,if keep selves from these do well.Love and purity are the commandments to Gentiles.Let No Man judge in respect to Sabbath days.
---Darlene_1 on 8/4/05

Allow me to point out that your passage applies perectly to the ceremonial laws, which became useless once Jesus died on the cross.
I respectfully submit that it is not talking about the 10 Commandments/Moral law! But by all means feel free to disagree with me if you feel you must.
---Pierr7958 on 8/4/05

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Allow me to point out that your passage applies perectly to the ceremonial laws, which became useless once Jesus died on the cross.
I respectfully submit that it is not talking about the 10 Commandments/Moral law! But by all means feel free to disagree with me if you feel you must.
---Pierr7958 on 8/4/05

Colossians2:14,16,20 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us,which was contrary to us,and took it out of the way,nailing it to His cross.Let no man therefore judge you in meat,or in drink,or in respect of an holy day,or of the new moon,or of the sabbath days.Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world,why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances.Jewish laws don't apply to Gentiles.Risen with Christ,Christian, to seek those things above.
---Darlene_1 on 8/3/05

Let me be clear. I am not here to tell you that you have to accept anything at all!
I would suggest that we keep gentile spirits and agree to disagree amicably. Thanks, Pierre
---Pierr7958 on 8/3/05

Isaiah 20 is six verses long. (Doesn't match what I asked for either; gospels, Jesus)
Matthew 24-nothing about the Sabbath.
Mark 2:27-28 is an example of how the commands of God aren't meant for man's suffering and shouldn't be used that way. Interesting to note, he used a cerimonial command to make his point about the Sabbath, hmmm.

The Sabbath is your choice, but don't try and come on here and tell me it has to be mine; I'm already convinced and after much investigation into the matter.
---Pharisee on 8/3/05

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Gen 2:1-3/Col. 1;14-17 JCh made the Sabbath, rested on it, blessed and sanctified it,set it aside for worship. Mark 2:27-28. He wrote on the COMMANDMENTS for all, to REMEMBER THE SABBATH ... AND WORSHIP HIM. (Exodus) He was crucified, rested in the tomb, as He did on the 7th day of Creation. (Math 24:15-20) He predicted Sabbath observance after His death. Isa 20:12,20 Sabbath observed on the new earth!
Not a lot of direct quotes but several indicators, the Sabbath is here to stay!
---Pierr7958 on 8/1/05

Mar 9:7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

Now show me anywhere in the Gospels where Jesus commanded us to keep the Sabbath.

It's not there!
---Pharisee on 8/1/05

You peal out of there laying rubber and hitting 90 as quickly as possible because after all you no longer under the law but under grace.
I don't think so!
You are still under the law but not its condemnation.
A better way to say THANK YOU FOR GRACE?
Slow down and obey the law.
Does that ring a bell. I hope so.
---Pierr7958 on 8/1/05

Here is an illustration for those who think "under grace" means "no more obligation" to keep the law.
Imagine you traveling on the freeway.
(you are under the law- speed limit 70)
To be cont.
You are doing 87
(you are transgressing the law)
You are pulled over
(you are now technically under the condemnation of the law = fine of $$$)
The trooper decides to give you a break
(GRACE) and does not give you a ticket.
---Pierr7958 on 8/1/05

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I don't know if in the course of our exchange you missed that:
I DO NOT advocate keeping the LAW OF GOD to earn salvation. It is a FREE GIFT, no if or buts about it. I do however advocate the LAW OF GOOD because I love Him and I want to express to Him my gratitude for His gift. I think that's appropriate, don't you?
---Pierr7958 on 8/1/05

Eloy & Pharisee

As for me changing the day of worship from Sabbath to Sunday see the following quote:
"Ques- How do you prove that the church has power to command feasts and holy days?
Answer- By the very act of (her) changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which the Protestants allow." Henry Tiberville, An Abridgment of the Christian Doctrine, 1898
p. 58.
If you need more catholic quotes, send me your postal adress and I will provide them.
---Pierr7958 on 8/1/05

OK where do I check it out, on an SDA generated website?

My sister married an adventist, he threw a fit because she bought a car on a Saturday, "saying that it wouldn't be blessed by God."

Well it wasn't cursed either, it runs great and there's been no accident or any other HooHAh...

Let's stop the superstition that we have to earn God's blessing, it was done for us on an old rugged cross.
---Pharisee on 8/1/05

Pierr, You wrongly assume man has changed the sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. The O.T. sabbath was Friday at evening to Saturday at evening. That hasn't changed. But we are not obligated by the O.T. laws, today we are obligated by all the N.T. laws. And if God tells you to work on the sabbath, as he also does, then you should work. Jesus also worked on the sabbath. Please read John 5:17,18.
---Eloy on 8/1/05

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I sense many of you see the COVENANTS = THE LAW/10 commandments.
I suggest they are not the same. My reson for saying that is as follows:
The Bible tells us that the 1st C was imperfect and needed to be improved. Hence the 2nd C.
I suggest that "imperfect" could not has not and should not be applied to THE LAW which we are told is a reflection of God's character. Just some things to think about!
---Pierr7958 on 8/1/05

Pharisee & Bob & Co.
You deny MEN took the liberty to change Sabbath worship to Sunday worship. A historical fact. Check it out!
Next:"For the Christian there is no Sabbath...'
Then you continue:"I agree that God set aside the Sabbath..."
How's that again?
Then you add:" I agree that it (the Sabbath) was set aside ... Jewish people... FACT:
The Sabbath was made at Creation, long before there were Jews and Gentiles? Truth: IT belongs to all mankind.
---Pierr7958 on 8/1/05

"and now subject to a law of the holy spirit which is formatted solely for the things which cause you to fall away from Him."

Formatted to the things which cause you to fall away from him???

I don't get it, probably a good thing.
---Pharisee on 7/31/05

---matthew on 7/31/05

Say what???
---Pharisee on 7/31/05

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sorry mr. pharisee but my drill intructor does not even criticize me so just for asking a simple question. anyway, just hope you understand you are in Christ free from jewish law and now subject to a law of the holy spirit which is formatted solely for the things which cause you to fall away from Him. but if you must know the sabbath was every seven days and the Sabbath was an appointed time of year, but there were actually several more holidays and feasts and such dedicated to God in ot times
---matthew on 7/31/05

NO LIBERTY? Gal.5:*13, I Peter 2:16, II Peter 2:9-18, *19-21.

I've found what men [including myself] believe or think is'nt worth a hill of beans if not supported by "The Holy Scriptures"!

I once thought 'Christians' believed The Word(s) Of God 1st, experience has taught me otherwise! The Reason? Acts 5:29, Gal.1:1-5, 6-12, II Tim.4:1(3)5, Heb.12:1(12-21)29.

"Eloi, Eloi,". Phil.1:15.

"Amen, Even So, Come Lord Jesus"!
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 7/31/05

I deny: "THAT MEN took the liberty"

With the same ideal that I shared before...For the Christian there is no Sabbath but the Lord Jesus and I have shown you biblical answers to your questions and you have not responded except with a new question and challenge.

Jesus is the fufillment of the Old Testament law, "I have not come to abolish but to fufill."
His death on the Cross made us right with God and so no favor can be gained or lost by Sabbath keeping.
---Pharisee on 7/31/05

I agree that God set aside the Sabbath, but the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath.

I agree that it was set aside as a Commandment to the Jewish people, as those commandments were given specifically to them at the time for thier sanctification to bring about the savior of the world through their liniage.

To the world was a "new covanant" given and that covanant was given to all men even those who had no ties to the Jewish religion and the Sabbath.
---Pharisee on 7/31/05

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Apostle Paul taught about the laws [Rom.7:1-14, 15-25, 11:1-12, 13-25, 26-36]! All 'unsaved' still under THE LAW [Matt.5:17, Gal.5:13-18, James 2:8-13]! Why More Walls?

No Special Interest Groups When Christ Judges [II Cor.5:10; Mal.3:16-18]!

The Christian Jew Foundation is another excellent source of church/Jewish information, offering calendar's used in scriptures, with Holyday's, sabbath's, etc. A picture is still worth a thousand word's!

---bob6749_[Elishama] on 7/31/05

I consider myself a follower of Christ.
I do not id Babylon as ALL CHRISTIANITY, only that part that teaches untruths/confusion,.
Even so or because of it I did/do not pooh-pooh anyone, not even you.
---Pierr7958 on 7/31/05

I am not here to argue. I just want to ask you a few questions: What exactly is not biblical/ true about my presentation? Be specific and show me my error from the Bible only please! Do you deny that God set aside the Sabbath and sanctified it and observed it AND THAT MEN took the liberty to change the day of worship from Sabbath to Sunday? Are you ok with that? Read you later!
---Pierr7958 on 7/31/05

I contrasted the 10 commandments Sabbath (10 CS) with the ceremonial sabbath (Cs) showing their differences.
The most important difference is:
10 CS permanemt
Cs temporary
1.Jesus is Lord OF the Sabbath. He is NOT THE SABBATH. He established it at Creation and ordered it observed for ever!
2. The ceremonial sabbath were FEAST DAYS, part of the sacrifical system pointing to Jch's coming death, after which the FEASTS became useless.
---Pierr7958 on 7/31/05

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The early church was totally Jewish when first formed on The Day Of Pentecost [another sabbath day], occurring on the first day of the week that year, and has been rightfully called "The Lord's Day" since.

The early church kept both the weekly sabbath & "The Lord's Day".

Zola Leavitt's website is an exellent resource on most church and Jewish subjects.

Botttom Line? Jewish Sabbath's Are For Jews, "The Lord's Day" For Jew & Gentile.

---bob6749_[Elishama] on 7/31/05

I don't understand what you mean, Pierre. I don't understand your short forms. Thanks.
---Ann5758 on 7/31/05

Perfect, Pierre!
---Jerry on 7/31/05

"Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day"

Notice the time sequence mentioned in Col. 2:16. A festival is yearly. A new moon is monthly. A Sabbath is weekly. No one is to judge in regard to this. The Sabbath is defined as a shadow, the reality is Jesus. Jesus is our Sabbath. (Rom. 14:5-6) All you need to do is be convinced in your own mind that that is alright.
---Pharisee on 7/30/05

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Paul instructed the churches to put aside contributions on the first day of the week
(1 Cor. 16:2).
Jesus gave the apostle John the vision of Revelation on the first day of the week
(Rev. 1:10).
---Pharisee on 7/30/05

The first sermon was preached by Peter on the first day of the week (Acts 2:14).
Three thousand converts joined the church on the first day of the week (Acts 2:41).
The three thousand were baptized on the first day of the week (Acts 2:41).
The Christians assembled broke bread on the first day of the week.
The Christians also heard a message from Paul on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7).
---Pharisee on 7/30/05

Jesus rose from the dead on the first day of the week (Matt. 28:1-7; Mark 16:2, 9; Luke 24:1; John 20:1).
Jesus appeared to the disciples on the first day of the week (John 20:19).
Jesus appeared inside the room to the eleven disciples eight days after the first day of the week. The Jewish way of measuring days meant that it was again Sunday
(John 20:26).
The Holy Spirit came on Pentecost, the first day of the week (Lev. 23:16; Acts 2:1).
---Pharisee on 7/30/05

And God spoke all these words, saying, I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Exodus 20:2

I've never been to egypt...although it's not uncommon for egypt to be used metophorically, but I don't think that was God's intention here.

Today was tommorow yesterday, in every day we should give devotion to God, but what of the man with no Sabbath keeping church in town, should he violate the Sabbath day's walk rule to get there?
---Pharisee on 7/30/05

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"come out of Babylon and (re)join the remnant." ---Pierr7958

If our Chrisianity is Babylon why do you remain among us here?

I don't deny that as a Seventh Day adventist member that you have the Holy Spirit, what I deny is that you have the right teaching and (of course) you feel the same about Christians.

Pooh-poohing all Christians as "babylon" however is not going to win anyone over.
The CAPS don't convince me, and neither will any SDA rhetoric.
---Pharisee on 7/30/05

The Ten Commandments were addressed to a specific people, read the language in the Bible for yourself, there is no separation between cerimonial law and the Ten Commandments, Jesus was the fufillment of both, and the sum of the law and prophets was given in two commandments from the mouth of God.

As for the two differnt Sabbaths I'm unsure of that, I've never been to a synagouge.
---Pharisee on 7/30/05

Jan, many sabbaths observed/kept by Jewish People 'perpetually'. Weekly, monthly, annual, Jubilee Year, etc. Lev.23:1-44, 24:1-4. Jesus kept them! Lke.2:36-42.

The difference? Grace via "Lord Of The Sabbath(s)", vs 'penalties' of The Law! Matt.5:17-20, Mk.9:1-8 [Moses/The Law, Elijah/The Prophets, V.7-8 Jesus/Messsias only], Lke.6:1-11, Rom.14:5-13, Col.2:1-17.


---bob6749_[Elishama] on 7/30/05

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