Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Php 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world,
1Jn 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God,....
---jerry6593 on 5/28/12|
The verse goes a step further than just showing a difference between Nephilim and men of old renown.
It says Giants were here before and after. So one would assume God knew about them.
The problem is the men of renown. In my opinion these brought God's wrath.
I believe what happened corrupted the DNA.
---chris on 5/24/12|
4 There were giants in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
It says the daughters of men.
Not Cain, Sodom, giants but men as a race. It does not imply any deformity in these men or their daughters.
they bare children, the same.(meaning the children) became mighty men of old renown.
In fact it goes at length to seperate the giants and mighty men. Showing them to be different.
God wanted to end the world over this.
The whole flesh of the world is corrupted. He is going to destroy every species.
---chris on 5/22/12|
(only begotten son missing, which could account for YOUR misunderstanding)-Amigodana5/15/12
Amigo, this blog is a great place to continue your blog. Hope the gang finds it.
Concerning your statement above: It's amazing when we bloggers can explain the "lack of understanding" SOMEONE ELSE HAS because "that someone else's" Biblical view challenges ours.
I TRY to:
-Consider the possibility that it MAY BE MY OWN lack of understanding on the topic at hand.
-Don't reject others' doctrinal opinions nor justify mine without an intense reexamination of my own doctrinal beliefs through challenge.
Challenge: No scripture reference endorses your view that SONS OF GOD is a collective term for angels.
---Legends on 5/18/12|
1. Lupe, You sure picked a contoversial subject. I believe the Sons of God refered to in Gen. Chapter six are fallen angels. Their offsping were giants (literally Nephelim, i.e, fallen ones). One theory says the sons of God were the line of Seth, while the other line was descendants of Cain. This would not produce a race of giants though. It doesn't to this day. Goliath was one of these. He had six fingers on each hand, and six toes on each foot.
---Rick on 6/25/08|
Gogliath's height correction:
6 cubits = 1'5" or 102";
a span ='s 9"
111 divided by 12 ='s 9.25' or 9'3".
Similar to a NBA center compared to the average NBA guard, when you compare Goliath to King Saul. PRETTY TALL.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 9/12/05|
Shira, It could be harder for offspring of "unequally" yoked parents to be "saved", at times it's the same for "equally" yoked saved" parents offspring, especially if they save their salvation for church or public places.
"Unequally" yoked & "a house divided against it's self" can be different.
[Acts 2:39 is conditional, the Phillipians jailer's family had to hear & receive the gospel as individuals].
---bob6739_[Elishama] on 9/11/05|
Xanthi, Goliah's height in I Sam.17:4, ='s 9' 1/4".
King Saul was no shortie either, being head and shoulders over every man in Israel.
Assuming there was at least one 7 footer in Israel, King Saul would probably have been 8'+!
There are more specific scriptures than symbolic, hard to understand at times for some, but never vague.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 9/11/05|
yes Bob, my intention was of the sons of God in Job, the ones in chains, and also the ones that lost their first estate. I wanted to see who is schooled on these points and why. Something for all of us to learn. I have my ideas but will wait to see what others write. Pierr give me something brother,
---lupe2618 on 8/21/05|
Ann, Noah had sons before the flood. Please read Genesis 5:32; 6:2; 7:6.
---Eloy on 8/20/05|
I believe Sons of God are those people who believe in the Lord God. Genesis 6:2,4 John 1:12 Romans 8:14 1John 3:1
Angels do not marry. Matthew 22:30 Mark 12:25 Luke 20:34-36
God cast the angels that sinned down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness. Peter 2:4 Jude 1:6
---Ulrika on 8/20/05|
Bob the first half of my last posting was concerning what Shira had said. The second part was in response to something Rick had said earlier in this discussion. I havn't mentioned Noah. I mentioned Goliath who was referred to, at that time, as a giant. We have no idea what they meant by giant, it could just have meant someone much taller than the people they were familiar with. If I can find out the name of the 'malady' I'll get back to you on this.
---Xanthi on 8/20/05|
Xanthi, according to your reasoning about mental 'maladies' being the source of giants in Noah's days, the world would be over run with giants.
ALSO MEN OF RENOWN [NBA?].
Additionally, I don't believe such 'maladies' existed then, as sin had not broken man down biologically enough at that time [One Reason For The Law].
The sons of God in Job?
Angels not keeping their 1st estate?
LUST IS A SPIRIT!
---BOB6749_[Elishama] on 8/20/05|
To me, the answer given by shira_5965 on 8/6/05 makes more sense than any other discussion I have ever heard on this subject. Anyone of the opinion that angels mated with humans hasn't read their bibles properly. There is a form of mental handicap (can't remember it's name) which produces very tall people who all suffer from polydactily (spelling??) an extra digit on hands and feet. Goliath and his brothers could have suffered from this but we'll never really know.
---Xanthi on 8/19/05|
Some demons [fallen angels] who "kept not their first estate" [like satan possessing the serpent], were so bad, they're kept in chains of darkness til the appointed time [II Peter 2:4-11].
Sons of God in The Book Of Job?
'Sinful' men, never produced 'superhuman' beings!.
Gen.6:4, "there were giants in the land & after that, 'when the sons of God'... saw the 'daughters of men' were fair... "[demons are demons!].
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/19/05|
All reproducing life on earth came through the "garden". The only "son of God" there was Adam, who began existence as male & female. God separated the parts to make Eve. Then she was out of Adam (woman). They were of God and pure. There had to be corruption to make "daughters of men". Enter the serpent. Read Mat.13:38 & 1John3:12.
---mike_fl on 8/18/05|
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"For ye are all son's of God. through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ did put on Christ. There can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond not free, there can be no maile and female; for ye all are one man in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:26-29
---rue on 8/14/05|
Eloy, how could they be male offspring of Noah...this was recorded as happening before the flood. I believe the "sons of God" refers to the decendants of Seth, which is a Godly line.
---Ann5758 on 8/12/05|
"'Sons' of God....'daughters' of men", no play on words, had to be a big difference to produce that kind of seed! Gen.6:2,4, Jude 6. There are embodied and unembodied spirits. God Is Good, All The Time!
[example; satan was 'unembodied', then became 'embodied' via the serpent's body].
Jesus cursed a fig tree [minding it's business] having leaves without fruit, being aware that something was wrong, as a fig tree with leaves produces fruit in season & out.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/9/05|
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Thanks for your answer. I like your "sons of God" much better than mine.
---Pierr7958 on 8/8/05|
Scripture clearly reads "sons" of God, and not angels of God. They were the male offspring of Noah, and not angels, for angels cannot mate as is wrongly taled in myths. And the giants were only notorious men, (as was Adam and Noah) and not some monsters..."and had born to them, the same were the mightiest of the world and MEN well-known."(emphasis mine) Genesis 6:4. i think the ficticious myth of Angels being the sons of God comes from the corrupt Greek Septuagint text.
---Eloy on 8/6/05|
My Bible says "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" - Joh 1:12 And again, "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." - Rom 8:14 That's us! "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God:" - 1Jo 3:1
---Jerry on 8/6/05|
Gen 6 tells us who they were and what they did and how mad they mad God who "flooded" them.
---Pierr7958 on 8/6/05|
The sons of God spoken of in scriptures are the saved people who believe in God. When they married the daughters of men, it was an attempt to corrupt the bloodline. What happens now when a saved person married an unsaved person. Their offspring are rarely ever saved. If you are saved you are the sons and daughters of God and not men.
---shira_5965 on 8/6/05|
3. You also see this is Greek and Roman mythology. They have some basis in fact. Except to them they were gods. It was Satan's attempt to destroy the bloodline so Messiah could not come. These angels that sinned are mentioned in Jude as now being chained in Tartarus. This is the only mention of Tartarus in the entire Bible. It is a prision specifically for these angels that sinned.
---Rick on 8/5/05|
2. They were attempting to corrupt the bloodline of the human race with these hybrid creatures. Half man / half angel. This is one of the reasons God destroyed the world with a flood. He saved Noah and his family because they were perfect in their generations. A better translation is "Perfect in their geneology."
---Rick on 8/5/05|