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Do We Need A Bible Degree

Where in the bible does it say we have to go to school & spend a lot of money that most of us don't have just to be a minister & give Gods word? Shouldn't the calling of God go beyond degrees?

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It doesn't say you must go to school to be a minister. Every believer should be an evangelist. We are to produce fruit. The fishers of men were observed to be uneducated fishermen, yet it was known that they had been with Jesus. Not all churches require degrees to become a minister. But do you not think it fair that a minister should be familiar with the Bible and should have read it cover to cover? Some have not even read through the new testament. Should they be Christian counselors and ministers? Students leading the flock. Puffed up with confidence when they not even know what they are talking about.
---mike4879 on 1/5/17

In as much as God called the boy Samuel to be his mouthpiece, other than this, the Bible instruction is "He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil." (1 Timothy 3:6) Go ahead, seek to win others to Jesus. You wish to become a minister, STUDY!
---mike4879 on 1/5/17

//Martin Luther was a professor at a Bible university.//

He was FIRST a Catholic Priest

//Do you believe he didn't know the Bible?---Samuelbb7 on 11/25/16

All Priests are learned in the Scriptures.

Not only did he knew the 66 book Bible, he also knew the 73 book Bible and very well.

Other Priests and Monks were his Instructors.

As a Priest he had his OWN personal Bible which was expensive to have in the 16th century

---Nicole_Lacey on 11/25/16

True Nicole those who get a Bible degree had to study the Bible. I agree.

What I said you can study the Bible and not have to attend a class to do so. I study the Bible all the time. But my degree is in History.

I have taken Bible classes. But I don't have a degree from a Bible School.

So you don't have to attend a Bible school and get a degree to study the Bible.

Martin Luther was a professor at a Bible university. Do you believe he didn't know the Bible?
---Samuelbb7 on 11/25/16

//You don't to have a Bible degree to study the Bible.---Samuelbb7 on 11/22/16

Your comment made me chuckle.

I know what you mean.

It is funny because those with Bible degrees had to study the Bible.

Like saying you don't have to have a medical degree to study medicine

---Nicole_Lacey on 11/25/16

1 Corinthains 2:12 - Now we have received , not the spirit of the world , but the Spirit which is of God: that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God,

1 Corinthains 2:13 - Which things also we speak , not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but the Holy Ghost teacheth : Compare Spiritual thing's with Spiritual, ---------->
---RichardC on 11/23/16

No, we don't need Bible college degrees, as God Himself says.

1John 2:22
But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you, but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him

Christ is our teacher.
Matthew 23:8
But you, do not be called Rabbi, for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren.
---Haz27 on 11/22/16

Maybe at the Vatican but at our local Catholic college it would cost a small fortune.

But colleges on learning to understand the Bible are from many churches not just the RCC so the statement is nonsense

You don't to have a Bible degree to study the Bible.

Chuck Swindoll has a good program on what we need to study the Bible. Two or three good translations. A dictionary, Bible dictionary. A Concordance of every word in the Bible with a Hebrew and Greek Dictionary. Prayer, the Holy Spirit and time. So that you can look at verses in context and know what other passages say on the same topic.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/22/16

//It's a money maker started by the Catholic church.--Moe on 11/21/16

What are you talking about?

Tell me where did you get that lie from?

Catholic Church started the Universities for free or very low fees.

You can go to go the Vatican and take all Theology course for almost free.

It's the living expenses in Rome that cost a lot of money.

We started FREE education for all people including non Catholic.

We started hospitals for free as well.

Please don't spread falsehoods on the Catholic Church

Just preach God's Message.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/22/16

I was called by God. Not by some school. I believe that others should not judge those called by God and say they need some kind of degree or other endorsement. It's a money maker started by the Catholic church.
---Moe on 11/21/16

Colleges work on a credit hour system. 1 hour per week of class time for 15 weeks equals 1 credit hour.
120 credit hours required to graduate with a bachelors degree, which should give you useful level of knowledge.
If churches operated on this system, members who attended faithfully over their life would receive three Ph.Ds and a Masters degree in the Bible.
Even those who didn't attend all weekly meetings would receive a few degrees.
If so many in the church have this level of expertise, then why are there so many ignorant about how to rightly divide the Bible?
Why are so many ignorant college graduates still ignorant?
It may be 2 Tim 3:7 has something to do with it.
"study to show yourself approved"
---michael_e on 8/21/16

Because the knowledge of the Bible doesn't just fall on someone.

How many times have you have read a certain passage believing it to mean one thing until a Bible Scholar (degree) explains the TRUE meaning of the passage?

Many times for me. Too many to count.

After hearing their explanation you agree.

Like why was Zechariah punished and not Mary for questioning Archangel Gabriel?

I know now because of a Bible Scholar.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/20/16

'Where in the bible does it say we have to go to school & spend a lot of money to be a minister & give Gods word?'

It doesn't and anyone can still preach in the way they did centuries ago and many do - on street corners, in non-denominal churches, in youth meetings and many other ways (the best way being one to one with unsaved friends).

However, if you want the diploma to show a church who will pay you to preach then you'll need the training just as all other job seekers need proof of their ability these days.

We live in modern times and most things must be done the modern way - unless you are happy to do this for FREE.
---Rita_H on 8/17/16

We have the best Bible College we can get,the College of God with the Holy Ghost as our teacher and the Bible is our Textbook. The Bible says we need no teacher for the Holy Ghost shall be our teacher. God tells us in the Bible to seek and,search,and knock and it will be opened unto you. There is no better way to learn than God. Glory to God.
---Darlene_1 on 8/16/16

No paper will give you the approval to preach the word of God if it is not the Will of God. God has a calling for each one of us, some to be teachers, pastors, evangelist or translators. The only way we will know our calling is through prayer and fasting. We must read and study the scriptures so that we understand Gods Word. My husband took Bible Theology and he learned more at Bible Study and studying the Scriptures. The word of God is given Freely and led by the Spirit. The only way we will learn is by reading the Scriptures, studying, prayer, fasting and seeking the Lord with all of our heart, mind and soul. I do not have a degree but I do have the calling to preach the word of God and I do as the Spirit gives it.
---America_Rodriguez on 6/26/16

Yes the calling of God goes beyond degrees for His Church & Ministry which Is according to Mark 16 v 16, ACts 2 v's 37 - 41 which Fulfills Matt.28 v's 19 - 20.

Most people that attend seminaries of the Man-made relig-org's churches beginning with the rcc Are found here, 2nd.Tim 3 v 7. These people here flirt with the devilish pleasures of the world & they think they can get by with it & they will Not.
---Lawrence on 6/16/10

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One thing an education can do is to give someone a formal grounding. This can be good (i.e. making sure one knows the basics), and bad (i.e. filling one's head with useless fluff).

However, I think the good generally outweighs the bad - especially if we use our own God-given discernment to profit from the good, and ignore the useless fluff.

An uneducated preacher says "I know God does this", while an educated one adds "and I can prove it - see this verse".

I have also met people with great zeal for the Gospel who believed (and taught) outlandish things - because they thought they knew what was right, but never actually "studied to show themselves approved" (2 Timothy 2:15, Acts 17:10-11).
---StrongAxe on 4/29/10

In jail ministry I've encountered many different kinds of people. Some are very anointed, know what they're talking about, on fire for God. Others seem to be doing with their church expects them to do, or they have a friend who wanted them to work in jail ministry. Occasionally I have met people who after they started their jail ministry grew to be real soulwinning speakers.
---mima on 4/29/10

Schools, seminaries etc uses Man-made ideas of philosophy & theology etc to twist scriptures to say things it doesn't say. Just like the Man-made philosophy & theology being used to come up with the trin-doctrine & god-head.
---Lawrence on 4/29/10

That sounds like a good question for the Plymouth Brethren churches.

I attended a Plymouth Brethren - Mennonite church for 12 years. They were big on encouraging lay people to preach and thought that people could self study to learn the Bible. Some of them were in fact outstanding Bible teachers and had huge theology libraries in their homes.

It is not that difficult if you let scripture interpret scripture and start young in life and also have good commentaries.

Of course, they also ran Bible schools and some people did go for 4 years. But, they did have lay pastors who had other jobs.

They start the men preaching at age 12 by having men stand up and share/preach during communion.
---obewan on 4/29/10

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you donot need to go to school,God does not require it as far as what the world offers, however you should maybe be taught by an elder at your local church if they can go over scripture with you, offer bible classes etc.. hope this helps.
---candice on 4/29/10

In talking with a wonderful soulwinning pastor, pastor said, well I do not have a degree I never went to seminary. Well I said, that's the first thing that you have said that qualifies you to me.
---mima on 4/29/10

St. Paul says something about people who have "zeal not according to knowledge."

Would you want an ignorant person teaching you?

One of the purposes of a seminary is to "try a vocation"--that is, to see if the person is INDEED called of God.
---Cluny on 4/29/10

Biblically, there have always been schools where those who are interested in the word of God would learn.

These students were often called " Sons of the prophets" or ' children of the prophets"

The disciples for 3 1/2 years learned at the feet of Jesus, and before that many of them were disciples of John the baptist.

Paul has Gamaliel, and so on.

So a reputable teacher / institution is normal.
So i do support having a decreee to be a minister and i support no less than a masters.
---francis on 4/29/10

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Hebrews 5:12: "For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God, and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat." How long would that 'teacher' program might have been? Through it all a man first of all should find his calling, 1 Cor 12:28,29. In my career, I have worked with many degreed fellows who had gone through a degree program, but the degree did not go through them, evidence of the wrong calling.
---Nana on 4/27/10

God chooses the uneducated, and the weak, and the foolish thing, of this world, Because the other don't want anything to do with Him. It's in the Bible, I read it, it's in there, somewhere .

You illustrate the very need for education.
(not necessarily from an educational institution, though thats the surest way to get it). If I say, "Catherine I don't believe the Bible says what you said", you can't even tell me where to LOOK in the Bible!

Unbelievers have questions. Baby Christians have questions. Those who have studied the word for years want to be ministered to by someone who knows the Word as well or better than they do. The BEST teachers depend on the power of God AND the knowledge of His WORD.
---Donna66 on 4/26/10

Yes, and it amazes me that on the internet you can learn how to preach. When you are called by God to preach you depend only upon His power, to preach. However, I am sure that God can and does send some to college. He asked me to go, I just wanted to go back to school. He said, "what about Bible college'? OH, I was so excited that He would even ask me, being a young believer. So I attended for two years, and did well, better than I ever did in high-school. However, I didn't learn mush, I was more interested in making good grades. God got me in and God took me out. That's it!
---catherine on 4/25/10

I have studied Islam, and loved to watch the debates between Christians and Muslims. I note, as an ex Witch, that, professors could not budge the Muslims over towards Christianity.

However, it was always the born again Christians, who did a better job of converting Muslims over towards Christianity. Academic Christians lack power, and conviction.

I studied Criminal law at degree level, and note that law teachers had such a mindset where they could not see connections which were obvious to someone looking from the outside. Letters don't mean a thing in some cases.
---kevin_watson on 4/25/10

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#1 I have a degree from an acredited educational institution, and I also have a graduation certificate from a non-acredited Bible College. When it comes right down to it, the certificate of graduation has meant more to me that any other degree I might have attained. The Bible College that my husband and I graduated from, only taught Scripture from the Bible. The classes involved: types and shadows from the Old Testament, doctrine, prophecy and Paul's Epistles.
---Debbie_Jo on 4/24/08

#2 All the classes were totally free of charge for they have believed, for over 75 years, that the Word was given to them freely and it should be given to others freely. It is not the piece of paper that we received that made the difference, it was the depth of the teaching of the Word of God that changed our life, and gave us our ministry.
---Debbie_Jo on 4/24/08

My partner and I often speak about this question of degrees. He has a masters in biology. I have a BS in education, agriculture, and science. Local pastors that hear our radio program say we don't have any training. And that's right, praise the Lord, we don't have any training(of the kind they have) we just go by the Bible. That's why we do not question the virgin birth of Christ but accepted it as absolute fact. And we do not ask for money!
---Mima on 4/24/08

I was taught Bible all my life, Many ministers in my family. When I went to siminary I found that it was not accurate. The translation, the language, the structure & symbolism MUST be known to understand what was said, why it was said to know what it means.
---Chip on 4/24/08

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You can have degrees! Holy Ghost degrees. A lot of people in Bible colleges that are not saved. Some of the professors are not saved. God chooses the uneducated, and the weak, and the foolish thing, of this world, Because the other don't want anything to do with Him. It's in the Bible, I read it, it's in there, somewhere.
---catherine on 4/24/08

A person can have all kinds of degrees for this and that but yet still don't know a thing. God doesn't care how many titles on has and how many times they have read the bible. What God cares about is what did you get out of it when you read it? So many people think by having all of these degrees they are called by God to preach. Not So. Only God Almighty can call a person to preach He does however expect them to study God's word) to show thyself approved by God.
---Rebecca_D on 4/23/08

What Does It Mean To Receive a Doctorate Degree From a Bible College That's not accredited by The State oF Maryland of Higher Ed me and my classmates are thinking about not attending our last year I Agree That You Should Study The Word
---ROBBIE_SAVAGE on 4/23/08

It seems quite clear here. Paul simply asked "Did I win you by the letter or by the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost"? In other words, do the colleges and universities hand out this "Power" of the Holy Ghost"? If not, then why should someone who is called by God himself (Jesus) to preach, all of a sudden find God's wisdom inadequate among men? Someone needs desperately to read the 23rd chapter of Jeremiah, to consider it diligently.
---Greely on 11/13/07

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It should be noted here about Jeremiah. The word of the Lord, which was placed on his tongue by God himself, brought Jeremiah reproach, rebuke and persecution: ALL DAY LONG! Why? Because the people had their own ministers behind the pulpit telling them what they wanted to hear, from those educated through their own secular means and not that of GOD!! Of course, the carnal mind can never receive the things of the spiritual mind, for they are spiritually discerned and not secularly comprehended.
---Greely on 11/13/07

It should be noted here about Jeremiah. The word of the Lord, which was placed on his tongue by God himself, brought Jeremiah reproach, rebuke and persecution: ALL DAY LONG! Why? Because the people had their own ministers behind the pulpit telling them what they wanted to hear, from those educated through their own secular means and not that of GOD!! Of course, the carnal mind can never receive the things of the spiritual mind, for they are spiritually discerned and not secularly comprehended.
---Greely on 11/13/07

Like in all professions that God has given a gift to, you should have qualifications to do the job.

Just because Jesus was annointed and had the almighty power of the holy spirit doesn't mean we can compare ourself to God. You can't become a doctor with just HS. You can't practice Law without the Bar. You shouldn't preach until properly trained, tested, degree, and appointed by elders.
---schneidt1 on 9/26/07

In short, it doesn't. Many churches have "layman" type ministers. In my church (an LCMS church) we have Lay Ministers. We are a group of men who are trained up to give the word, counsel people in need and even give communion. I agree that it is unfortunate that many churches (including ours) don't allow their lay people to preach. But there are denominations that do allow lay people to preach. God's kingdom knows no denominational limitation and neither should you. Peace in Him.
---Bob on 4/10/07

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The calling of God is much more important the degrees in this, that and the other. Our church survives on lay preachers. We've had a college trained minister for about 5 out of the last 30 years and now he has retired. Sometimes we have a minister from another church or young men who are in college training to be ministers, but most Sundays we have lay preachers. If it wasn't for the lay clergy many churches would be closed and many who are now saved wouldn't have been.
---Paulette on 8/15/05

Scripturely speaking, many 'learned' believers were instructed in things of God, in spite/despite their eloquence, including Apostle Paul [formerly Rabbi Shaul of Tarsus].

[I Cor.2:9-16]: Some qualifications are listed, as "God is not the author of confusion" or respector of persons!

I Cor.12:4-7 explains how God's Gifts ownership, are regulated in conjunction with spiritual gifts and offices!

John The Baptist, Moses, Jer.1:1-19. CALLINGS! CALLINGS! God Is Still God!
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/15/05

In general anyone can stand on a street corner and preach. But if you want be Ordained Clergy in a mainline denomination you are going to need to be a graduate of an accredited seminary with a Master of Divinity. Most of denominations have provisions for Lay Clergy or Local Preachers but even those programs require some degree of formal training and examination before a licensee to preach will be granted. If you think you have the calling invest the time and get sufficiently trained.
---notlaw99 on 8/12/05

If God called a person to preach or evanglise, then that person doesn't need to go to college to learn about the bible. God shows them. But if God didn't call a person to preach, teach his word, then it won't last. There is nothing wrong with going to college to further your education. Colleges doesn't call people to preach, teach on God's word but God calls a person to do his work.
---Jo on 8/10/05

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Lisa, do you believe you can be tested and/or proven through experiences with God in all aspects, instead of being tested of the knowledge?
---Chosen on 8/10/05

For those who think that college is not necessary because one can study on their own, what are they going to study if not things written by college educated, trained, scollars? Thank the Lord someone is going to college/university!
---Bruce5656 on 8/10/05

Without structure, you get too many lone rangers doing their own thing. God's kingdom operates on authority and submission and willingness to submit to authority before God will bestow His power and authority upon you to be a vessel of His glory.God has to put you through his testing before he'll let you shepherd his flock and a part of this testing is to see how you submit to the authority of his minister's already shepherding the flock. If this bothers you then you're not ready to shepherd God's flock.
---lisa on 8/9/05

The paper does not make you a minister. God doesn't call the qualified but He qualifies the called. The paper will legalize you but it is the spirit of God that destroys the yolks of bondage. Some rely on their paper and title to do things but regardless of the paper and/or title, you must continue to do the will of God concerning your life. He's not concerned with that paper but with your obedience.
---Chosen on 8/9/05

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It has to go beyond a degree - true, but a degree has some merit to it. For one thing, it helps the person get the correct message the of writer of the book of the Bible. By getting a formal education, you learn the background information that is important in understanding the Bible. (You can get all this without a formal education - but it's the exceptional person who will do this.)
---WIVV on 8/9/05

I believe that the call to preach is an individual call that you must seek God to be sure that this is what He wants you to do. Also, seminary teaches much more than just the Bible. There are also courses that you learn how to help others in counseling and deal better with any potential problems that arise in your congregation. Don't dismiss seminary out of hand, there is plenty of financial aid out there!
---Sarah on 8/9/05

You don't have to go to school necessarily. There are many ministers who haven't. But the disciples studied three and a half years under Jesus Himself. Paul also mentions that he went to school. But I think Bible college or Seminary is great as long as it's Bible based. If it's just the money you're worried about, Gospel truth ministries offers a free ministry course. You can even take it over the internet.
---Rick on 8/9/05

2. Learn to be approved. Do it for God and not for yourself. Love what you do and be open to what God reveals to you. Remember, the size of the church means nothing if none are really saved. Sound Doctrine does not change, it is the same forever. I pray that God uses you on all you do.
---lupe2618 on 8/9/05

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I know many Pastors that learned more out the bible than they ever did at any bible college. If you can read the bible, you can learn God's will, and you can teach others. Many bible colleges teach man's prospective of the scriptures and not God's. 2 timothy 2:15.
---geraa7578 on 8/9/05

Servant, I believe a person can feel the calling to preach. People I know felt that when they were young. With it comes a great responsibility. You have to have a heart for it, and do a lot of work, through the power of the Holy Spirit. You have to be ready to meet the challenges that come with been a pastor or leader in a church. Many this days just get their work from the web from others and never really allow the Spirit to work through them. So what they preach is not God inspired and does nothing.
---lupe2618 on 8/9/05

I agree with marya4586.
---Bruce5656 on 8/9/05

Dear Servant, Many denominations require a theological degree before a person can serve a church, however, the vocation of pastor/minister/preacher must always begin with God's call upon the person's life. Some U.S. churches will permit lay preaching, but not necessarily the total administration of the church. I think this issue is causing difficulty in some Third World countries.
---Elsie on 8/9/05

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It doesn't. Jesus never went to a cemetery- woops! to a seminary. The Spirit of truth, the Holy Ghost, whom the world cannot receive, will teach you all things and guide you into all truth. Please read John 14:16,17,26; 16:13-15. "But the anointing which you all have received of him abides in you, and you all need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teaches you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it has taught you, you all will abide in him." I John 2:27.
---Eloy on 8/9/05

Servant, it sounds like you want to "be a minister & give Gods word" in an organization that was put together by someone else. If that's what you want, you'll need the approval of those in charge of that organization.

However, if God has called you, all you'll need is His approval. But, be forewarned! You may wind up with an organization. Or you may wind up like Jeremiah - in a dungeon, sinking in mire!
---Jeffrey on 8/9/05

A degree does not necessarily make a good pastor but He has credentials and has studied for his calling.
Some like Brother Osteen have the drive to learn how to communicate God's word. Others take up the call and find a congregation before they get involved with reading Timothy. The term minister, preacher, pastor, Reverend should mean one grounded in the faith.
---chuck on 8/9/05

We used to have a college trained minister but now rely on lay preachers. Some are excellent, some not so good, some are young and still learning and they need our encouragement. What upsets me most in our church is that we can only have communion when there is a college trained minister preaching (of our own denomination) so we do not get communion very often. That is not taught in the bible but is a man-made rule of the church.
---Xanthi on 8/8/05

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Servant you must now ask yourself 'am I truly a servant?'

I'll never deny or challenge your calling.
But I want you to ask yourself why you want this so badly.

If you are truly called you'll be serving wherever you are. People will know you by the Faithful service in small things; these WILL lead to greater things. It's promised.
Matthew 25:14-29
Make a difference in your world where you are today, you are in training as we speak.
---Pharisee on 8/8/05

Many of the subjects taught in Bible schools have to do with practical things - like how to teach, finances, counselling, ethics, different ways to study, history, etc. which enhance one's ability to preach and lead a church. But without God's call, they are as empty as preaching without school. But one does not have to go to school to be called by God to preach and many churches accept and recognize this.
---marya4586 on 8/8/05

Yes a calling should go beyond degrees, but when I was prompted to do things for Jesus (I am in college) he opened the door and made the way. In other words if God tells you to do something he's going to provide everything you need to get it done, including a way to go to college if thats included.
---Dianne6756 on 8/8/05

There are many churches that will call a minister who does not have educational credentials. However that does not mean that one should not strive to seek the best educational opportunities that they are afforded. We are very blessed in the US to have Bible colleges and seminaries where scholars can study under learned men of God. To not take advantage of that seems a shame. Many Christians throughout the world do not have such opportunities.
---Madison on 8/8/05

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A person called to preach is called by God and no other. They wouldn't need to go to school to be a minister. All a person needs to know is in the bible. If a person isn't called by God to preach his word and or to be a Pastor, then don't.
---Rebecca_D on 8/8/05

In short, it doesn't. Many churches have "layman" type ministers. In my church (an LCMS church) we have Lay Ministers. We are a group of men who are trained up to give the word, counsel people in need and even give communion. I agree that it is unfortunate that many churches (including ours) don't allow their lay people to preach. But there are denominations that do allow lay people to preach. God's kingdom knows no denominational limitation and neither should you. Peace in Him.
---Bob on 8/8/05

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