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My feelings about many of the Prosperity Movement preachers these days is that they ARE born again Christians but have somehow lost their way and forgotten what it is all about. Would you agree or do you think they are plain greedy and dishonest?

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I would say that most not all have a true heart and love God but that don't mean what they are teaching is the whole truth.
They teach the way they where taught.
---Raymond on 1/9/10

born agains don't lose their enter the kingdom of God you must be born again.
the holy spirit brings you into rememberance of what JESUS SAID.
the FALL was before CHRIST not after CHRIST.
no getting lost with the good shepherd.
bottom line Christ said follow me.
---angie on 9/16/08

Those living under the Old Testament, were not living under the New Testament dispensation, where the emphasis should be on the spiritual. Nothing wrong with material items and blessed finances, as long as they do not become the object of your affection and you are willing to Bless others as God would direct. However, we are to store up our spiritual treasures in Heaven where thieves and rust can't reach. Old Testament life did not have that enlightenment and focused on worldly things. Not so in Christ Jesus. There are some TV Evangelists that seem to have an over fixation with wealth. God will judge. We're to focus on Jesus..
---Robert on 8/15/08

In the O T, God gave riches to His people. Jacob,Solomon....David said in 1 Chronicles 29:12, Both riches and honor come from You, And You reign over all. However, They were a chosen people with earthly promises and rewards. They were given a land and all the treasures of it.

In the New Testament The church was never given a land or the promise of riches. It states in Ephesians 1:3, Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ. Christ spoke in Matthew 13:22 concerning the seed of God's Word falling among thorns and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. Beware of those who teach earthly riches in the New Testament.
---kathr4453 on 8/15/08

Andy, this was aired on Benny Hinn's "THIS IS YOUR DAY" on July 13, 2004.

I encourage you not believe what myself or anyone has to say, but to follow the example of the Bereans and check it out for yourself, Acts 17:11.

Order a video from that date and you will see and hear it for yourself.
---Rob on 8/14/08

****Are you telling me what Benny Hinn & Myles Munroe had said about God cannot do anything here on earth without first receiving our permission is true, and what is written in Isaiah 40:12-14 and Romans 11:24 is a lie?****

This all comes from the False teaching of Word Faith...that God is a FORCE...not God, and that our Words have POWER, and that this FORCE is at our beckon call and can do nothing without us. We're the ones who wheel and deal this force....making ourselves GODS above God himself..placing Him in subjection to us....but Him is not actually a Him....but a farce....I mean Force.

This is a FARCE!!!!!

---kathr4453 on 8/14/08

DEAR Rob God is illegal on this earth? I never heard Benny hinn teaching this, do you get this first hand, or hear-say: maybe you have heard something and now you misunderstood the meaning. could anyone actually aask these men of God what they imply with their words?
---Andy on 8/14/08

I forgot to mention that Benny Hinn and Myles Munroe teach that GOD cannot do anything here on earth unless he first receives our permission because they both teach the reason this is true is "BECAUSE GOD IS ILLEGAL HERE ON EARTH."
---Rob on 8/12/08

It never ceases to amaze me how False Prosperity Teachers are able to prey on people because of the gulibility and greed that people have.

A person can be shown time and time again the tactics these false teachers use, but people reject God's Truths as they are written and cling to what False teachers say. People will never follow the example found in Acts 17:11.

An example of this is the AOL/INTEL hoax which is gong around the internet. You can show people evidence time and time again that it is a hoax, but they refuse to believe the evidence.

This all comes back to a persons gulibility and greed.

---Rob on 8/9/08

Rickey: "God cannot do anything here on earth unless we first give Him our permission", Benny Hinn & Myles Munroe.

I totally agree with that statement to the fullest."

God does NOT need man's permission to do anything.

I suggest reading the entire Bible, not a verse here and a verse there. God did many thing without man's permission. Did God need man's permission to create the heavens and the earth? Did God need man's permission to create the flood? Does God need man's permission to create and destroy nations? Does God needs man's permission to heal anyone He pleases to perform a task? Did God need man's permission to allow Satan to wreck havoc on Job?
---Steveng on 8/8/08

mike: "to rickey & steveng
ezekiel 22:27-29..."

Curious, why are you pointing the Bible verse posted on 8/7/08 to me?
---Steveng on 8/8/08

Rickey, I am seeking some understanding from you.

Are you telling me what Benny Hinn & Myles Munroe had said about God cannot do anything here on earth without first receiving our permission is true, and what is written in Isaiah 40:12-14 and Romans 11:24 is a lie?

What about what is written in Genesis Chapter One. What person gave God the permission to do these things?
---Rob on 8/8/08

"God cannot do anything here on earth unless we first give Him our permission", Benny Hinn & Myles Munroe.

I totally agree with that statement to the fullest. Reason being, God has bound Himself to His word. He chose to do so & cannot go back on that. So if we don't want to be healed He cannot force healing on us. If a person wants to be depressed, then He cannot deliver them from it. Whatever we bind/permit on earth is permitted in heaven.
---Rickey on 8/8/08

False Prosperity Teachers Part One

Rickey, here are somethings I have heard prosperity and Word of Faith teachers and preachers (who claim to be God's Anointed, and sharing the Word of God) say.

Are these things God's Truths or Satan's lies.

"If you don't send me your money, I am going to place a curse on you", Benny Hinn.

"God cannot do anything here on earth unless we first give Him our permission", Benny Hinn & Myles Munroe.

"Jesus did not die on the cross because somewhere between the Garden of Gethsemane and Calvary, Jesus committed suicide", Frederick K.C. Price.

---Rob on 8/8/08

False Prosperity Teachers Part Two.

"I am not concerned with preaching about Christ because I am more concerned with preaching about the star. The people of God are to be walking in Darkness so they can follow the star", T.D. Jakes.

"Jesus is not the only way to God. It is up to every person to find their own way", Joel Olsteen.

If any one goes against my word, they are going against the Word of God, because I am the Word of God. If anyone goes against me they are going against the Lord, because I am the Lord of this Church" Eddie L. Long.
---Rob on 8/8/08

Rickey, through the years I have seen and listened to prosperity teachers enough to learn the tactics they use.

Everything some teach and preach are out right lies.

Ohters share just enough truth to capture a persons attention. After this, people are just like a fish that has been hooked, then are taken where they don't want to, or should not want to be.

Why is it prosperity teachers never, ever, ever teach people to follow the command which is found in 2 Timothy 2:14-19, and the example found in Acts 17:11?

Why is it prosperity teachers and preachers are very quick to tell people they need to purchase their books and CD's? Could this be an example of what is written in Matthew 21:12-13?
---Rob on 8/8/08

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to rickey & steveng
ezekiel 22:27-29

27 Your leaders are like wolves who tear apart their victims. They actually destroy peoples lives for money!
28 And your prophets cover up for them by announcing false visions and making lying predictions. They say, My message is from the Sovereign Lord, when the Lord hasnt spoken a single word to them.
29 Even common people oppress the poor, rob the needy, and deprive foreigners of justice.

benny hinn, copeland, meyer have multi million dollar homes, luxury cars & private jet.
---mike on 8/7/08

Rickey: "Anyway, like I said money is needed to get the gospel out. Jesus needed & had the money needed to travel and preach & so did the disciples."

Why is money needed? When Jesus said He was going to build His church, He didn't mean that of a building. Consider the multi-level marketing concept where a member "builds" his downline by telling people. The purpose of the Christian is to tell about the Kingdom of God and how to get there. (do an online Bible search of "Kingdom of God" and read all the verses in context). Thus increasing the population of the Kingdom. Read about the benefits of joining or starting your own home churches (in which you'll be needing to meet in secret soon).
---Steveng on 8/6/08

Rob I totally agree with you. On another note, people are judging folks who teach on prosperity as false teachers due to what they've heard & not seen, what happened in their life "one time", how something didn't work for them, etc. These are all elementary things. Christianity isn't for weak, faint-at-heart folks.

Money is a defence according to Ecclesiastes 7:12.

Also, I think many forget that most pastors only income is from the church. When that pastor is using wisdom with that money he/she will prosper & have more than enough. There is nothing wrong w/ that.
---Rickey on 8/6/08

Rob, I agree, but there also has to be a balance. Meaning, folks shouldn't knock it when someone is teaching on prosperity. It's in the bible. Same with fasting. Folks get that twisted & try to knock it.

PREACHING the gospel & TEACHING on prosperity are two different things. The gospel is to be preached to the lost, teaching on finances is for the church because the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the righteous.

Why do you think so many "church folks" get so defensive when it comes to money, aside from what they've heard about false teachers?
---Rickey on 8/6/08

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Mike, on that last reply, I worded the first part wrong. It should say, "let's use common sense."

Anyway, like I said money is needed to get the gospel out. Jesus needed & had the money needed to travel and preach & so did the disciples.
---Rickey on 8/6/08

Of course evangelists need money (and a lot of it) to conduct the campaigns that they hold. That isn't the issue.

The money that they are collecting from the crowds isn't just financing the campaigns, it is financing lavish lifestyles which are vulgar to the extreme.

We should be very wary of this.
---RitaH on 8/6/08

Rickey, I have no problem supporting people who are sharing the TRUE GOSPEL OF CHRIST JESUS, which is the GOSPEL OF SALVATION.

Prosperity teachers are deceiving people with another gospel, which is not the GOSPEL OF CHRIST, Galatians 1:6-10.

Concerning not looking at, ignoring, and exposing FALSE TEACHERS for who they truely are is exactly what Satan wants.

In Romans 16:17-18, we are instructed to mark (expose) those people who are false teachers for who they truly are.
---Rob on 8/5/08

Mike use your common sense. If the ministers listed didn't have money they wouldn't be able to travel and preach the gospel. In order to preach the kingdom of God money is needed. To be honest, w/ church folks money isn't really the issue, religion is. Religion is stuck on traditons & other things excluding faith. Religion always points the finger at God as if all things are His fault. As far as the ministries you listed, as well as others, why not "close your eyes". Meaning, quit looking at what you don't like.
---Rickey on 8/5/08

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True, there are poor examples among preachers who bring the prosperity message. However, in Ecclesiastes chapter 10, verse 19 it does say "money answereth all things." Now we are aware that it takes money for travel expenses, to eat,to assist the poor, to supply bibles, and for about anything. Jesus Himself had a treasury to support the ministry's needs, & if you read in Mark chapter 12, verses 41-44 Jesus actually shows very high regard for the widow who cast in all she had into the treasury. The problem comes when prosperity ministers use money as a basis to become selfishly rich at the expense of others under the guise of supporting ministry efforts to further the gospel.
---theresa on 8/4/08

Stevenq, The Lord YAHUSHUA (JESUS) took a coin of His Day and declared to us, "Render unto Caeser, that which is Caeser's. And unto GOD, that which is GOD's". The Church Ministry is GOD's. It DOES cost money to run a regular Church. Just to supply for Bibles and some study materials alone cost. The money used to provide for overhead and weekly building maintenance is not supplied freely by the Government. Nor does GOD regularly, if ever at all, "rain money down from Heaven" to "freely" pay for everything. GOD set up His people to participate in His Kingdom Work on Earth, by helping to give out of their Salary that the LORD enabled them to gain in the first place.
---Gordon on 8/4/08

Helen 5378, If the prosperity preachers are preaching another gospel, then that right there is enough to tell you that they are not of GOD. A number of them may have been at one time. But, the love of money has turned their hearts away from GOD. Now they are serving self, mammon and Satan.
---Gordon on 8/4/08

Money is NOT needed to preach the Kingdom of God.

Jesus never asked for money when He preached, healed the sick, or perfomred other miracles. It is a free gift from God. Ask God for anything and He will provide free of charge. The Gifts of the Holy Spirit is free.

How many of these prosperity preachers would continue to preach if they had to do it without charging people?
---Steveng on 8/1/08

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to rickey - then explain it to me how did kenneth copeland, joyce meyer, & benny hinn get rich, how they were able to purchase, multi million $$ homes, luxury cars & a private jets. did god tell them to take the money/tithe that they receive every sunday? I heard Pastor rick bernal a church in san jose california in a service said that he 'chose to be rich'. if you are blinded by religion, practice blind obedience from stupid ignorant pastors televangelist, you will follow someone who will be teaching poverty, ignorance & misery. god's will?
---mike on 8/1/08

Mike it is the will of God. II Corinthians 8:9 shows it. Many wouldn't know that it's the will of God for us to prosper in every area of life if someone didn't teach on it. Christianity is a lifestyle, not a religion. No one wants to go through life just barely getting along. Salvation, by many, has been limited to "fire insurance" instead of taking it for ALL that it is & what's included with it. I know on these blogs a lot of discussion/dispute is made, but my question is in what way is the word of God in operation in your life? In what way, aside from not going to hell, is/has Jesus blessed you in the natural?
---Rickey on 8/1/08

Bill bila5869, A Christian could get a little truth out of the Koran, or the Bagvadgita (sic?), that is, some sort of verse that would state some truth, but a christian should not go to one of those books for his source of Truth, for only the Holy Bible is the Source-Book of all Truth. Same with MANY of these Televangelists. Yes, they will spout some Truth, but, as they have made Mammon their God, having another God beside the One and True GOD, their theology and doctrine will ALWAYS twisted to correspond with the "god" they really serve, as in: "Serve God and see how much He will bless you!" Their doctrine is always centered on how much "God" does for them.
---Gordon on 8/1/08

Each one is unique, not who I would evaluate just as being "a prosperity preacher".

If I listen to someone, I see if there is anything I can get out of it . . . either because it's right, or God has me understand it better than the preacher means it, or what the person says gives me information about the person.

But no one speaks for anyone else, basically (o:
---Bill_bila5659 on 7/31/08

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my question to those of you who are in favor of these rich televangelist, is it the will of god for them to be rich or did they CHOSE TO BE RICH? god cannot force people in making decisions.
---mike on 7/31/08

Some were "Born Again", but have veered off of the Holy Path, usually for the sake of MONEY and FAME. As a result, many teach false doctrines since MONEY, FAME and "POWER" are their gods now. They are influencing other sheep who come to hear them preach and teach, and are themselves living out those false doctrines and thereby are actually headed for Hell (See 2nd Peter 2:1-3). But, GOD holds the teachers much more accountable and they have gallons of blood on their hands. And, they TOO are Hell-bound. You don't teach false doctrines that lead many to Hell, and then not end up there yourself. It's foolish to believe otherwise. GOD is a God of Truth, and His true followers are to live by and share the Truth, likewise.
---Gordon on 7/31/08

Some are and some aren't I suppose, but we are not supposed to judge. There are historical cases of tent revival preachers who were embezzlers, whoremongers, and gamblers. God still used their message in some cases I am sure - regardless of whether they are Christian or not. The Bible tells us that the gospel is often preached in spite of the motives or messenger. That does not make their sin right of course.

As for 'prosperity' theology, what about the man forced to support a family with a Wal-Mart job? Is he any less blessed? We dont all get to be a vessel of honor according to the Bible after all.
---obewan on 7/30/08

I don't think we can include them as born again Christians. This goes for anyone who calls themselves a "Christian" but still take pleasure in sin and everything that dishonors God. You can't be regenerated and then lose your way....that's impossible! Either you are regenerated or you're not. I believe that as 2 Corinthians 4 says, the god of this world, Satan, has blinded their minds from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ. Only God can give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus...and those who are his elect (chosen) can never be snatched.

"Many are called but few are chosen" Matt 22:14
---Shatoyia on 7/28/08

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The word says our Father knows what we have need of and will supply our needs.
Not wants.
The Lord taught us to pray saying "deliver us from evil."
The word says the love of money is the root of all evil.
The Lord will not bring the riches that will draw you to the very evil he hates and guided us to pray against.
Unlike man he is not double-minded.
Proverbs says the ungodly prosper in this world and James made it clear the rich should be ready to distribute.
---Frank on 1/21/08

I am not going to say. However, with all the sufferings ijn the world, I do have a problem with them. God already knows about this.
---catherine on 1/21/08

What THEY preach, I thought it may just make sense, God is good, and wouldn't he want us to be prosper, and have money cause money is not bad in itself, just if it becomes a god to us or takes his place. Because I was thinking, wait if money is bad then I am bad, cause I buy gas and goceries and pay bills and buy things I like. And I would assume that God is rich and his my father wouldn't he want me to be rich. Does rich have to mean greedy. I am rich but not greedy.
---Marie on 1/20/08

Moderator, the OSAS will say these prosperity teachers cannot lose their salvation.
What would be the best way to pray for them -backslidden condition or salvation?
There's one man in particular that God has laid on my heart to pray for. I would like your advice on the best way to pray, Moderator, before it's too late.
---Bob on 4/24/07

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Moderator, how can the love of money draw them so far away. Aren't they scared to death to exploit the laborer, use donations for lavish homes and planes. It's God's money and they're blowing all of it on themselves. Moderator, after the TV lights are off, and the limo takes them to the fanciest of dining halls, do the 'anointed' ones feel any sense of the shallowness of it all?
---Bob on 4/24/07

I believe that most of the Prosperity preachers were Christians in the beginning, but for the LOVE of money have exchanged their salvation for money and pride. Read both 1 Timothy 6:1-11 and Matthew 7:13-23. I speak from the experience of knowing many of them on a personal basis. Many are dishonest in how they justify their ungodly activities, but most know exactly what they are doing.
---Moderator on 4/24/07

Prosperity teaching advocates love for money, selfish ambition and worldliness. Proverbs 23:5- riches make themselves wings Prosperity also separates many american christians from christians worldwide. can you tell a starving christian in a third world country that it is God's will for them to be rich and are sinning or have a lack of faith,that is why they are not prospering. If a man was about to die in the electric chair , would you tell them the prosperity gospel or the true gospel. ! Cor. 15:1-4??
---Carlton_Jr. on 9/16/06

Ron if you have seriously stopped going to church because of 'this type of preaching' then you are punishing God for something man has done. My mother stopped going to church because the vicar had an affair and was a hypocrite. To her, that made Christianity hypocritical when it was really just a man. You are doing the same. Find a church that preaches the gospel as found in the bible. If you read the bible you'll spot the falsehoods. In the end though you are only harming yourself.
---f.f on 9/1/06

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I believe that only God can be the judge of the Prosperity Preachers as to whether they are born-again and whether what they do is dishonestly done. However, having said that, it is very wrong what they preach -- it is another Jesus, another gospel, and we should stay right away from their teachings.
---Helen_5378 on 8/31/06

I am a Christian and give to some televised Christianity programs. They have been there for me when I was sick, depressed, and they continue to be there for me. So the bottom line is alot of people cannot get out and attend Church or don't want to and if television is their only source and they become saved and a Christian from televised preachers, regardless if that preacher is taking monies more liberally or asking for more, that is what the bottom line is about...saving souls as far as I am concerned.
---SUSAN on 8/31/06

Because of this type of preaching I no longer go to church. How many people are turning away from Christ because they feel they were taken? Most people don't consider going to church until they are desperate. They hear God will solve all their problems with a seed (money), when it doesn't happen they feel God as turned against them. I have an excellent relationship with Christ until I allow a church to complicate it.
---Ron on 8/6/06

Many televangalist today are more concerned about money than souls. They should not have to ask. Billy Graham is an example of this. All the years I have been watching him, never once have I heard him asking for money. Joel Osteen is another. people give anyway. Where in scripture is it written where Jesus preached a message then demanded money? I understand money is needed to preach, but many times you turn on a televangalist, and the sermon is on money. Whatever happened to preaching the gospel?
---Sly5696 on 10/6/05

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I agree with the moderator here. God loves a cheerful giver, not someone who has to be pressed to give. Some of the money poured into the coffers of prosperity teachers is used to spread the gospel and pay for air time and literature posted out etc. but it is obvious from their very lavish lifestyles that some gain much themselves financially, above and beyond what seems decent. I have no problem with keeping profit from book sales etc. but the wealth of some is obscene.
---Xanthi on 10/6/05

Bottom line is: We need money to spread the Gospel. If you do not press people they will not give! The Gospel is being spread effectively by these prosperity teachers or not? Are they using the money just on themselves? The judgement is the Lord's. What we need is to gain souls to Christ at any cost.

Moderator - The end doesn't justify the means. True Christians don't need to be pressed or controlled to give. That is a form of witchcraft.
---Lily on 10/6/05

Brother Bob, I did not mean an ofence towards you just didn't make out what you were saying that is all. Of course I make mistakes and I didn't mean you made one just couldn't make out what it was you had put down. Sorry
---lupe2618 on 8/30/05

Lupe2618, read Acts 26:24-25.

I'm not here for strife some need & feed off.

I've seen errors in blogs [including yours] & never felt the need to "dismantle" the individuals, as I understood their point/belief's, right or wrong.

When my errors were pointed out, I gratefully corrected them, no problem!

English lessons, "shouting words"? Gimme a break!

Shadow Box [II Tim.2:23-24, Titus 3:9], I've said before, I don't visit chat rooms, etc.
---bob2679_[Elishama] on 8/26/05

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Cool Randy! I need some new Rollerblades! Only 48 years away! :)
---NVBarbara on 8/25/05

NVBarbara, I am already saving up for your 50th wedding anniversary gift. : ). Bless you in your journey.
---randy on 8/25/05

TY Dory! Good idea, all we'd have to do is ask Master Moderator! He'll tell us if he thinks its suitable. Love ya' sis...barba7434
---NVBarbara on 8/25/05

Loved your testimony, NVBarbara! I've been thinking for a while now, that we should have a "Testimony Blog". Not sure how it would work but it would be great to get to know each other better, wouldn't it?
---DoryLory on 8/24/05

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Thank you Randy for your understanding.
My ex left our son and me when my son was 5, he is now 32!I worked all my life it seems, but I loved my work.I put my son through college and Law school.
I had been alone a LONG time!Steve and I met here on the Net,he is now 62 and had never been married before. We blended together as one, and one with God, we've never been happier!He LOVES that I am home when he comes home from work, a home, cooked meals, he's a happy camper!Our 2nd anniv. will be Aug.30!
---NVBarbara on 8/24/05

Brother Bob, you do talk in riddles and I read what you say but don't make out the point or what its for. Maybe its just me, sorry. I am not to good in my comprehension, really was bad with my English at school and even now. Sorry, but thank you for your answer, whatever it was.
---lupe2618 on 8/24/05

Lupe & F.F., No one has ever said anything about me 'ShOuTiNg' at them, or finding my blogs hard to read before.

I try putting as much relevent info into my blogs as warranted, 'compressed' into the 85 word limit.

What I've said is coherent, despite possible human error(s).

Hide What? Some non-edifyings blogs I avoid [II Tim.2:23].

---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/24/05

NVBarbara, I pray that you have healed from your surgeries. It sounds like your plate is full and that you do work a lot. Thanks for emailing CBN. And please continue to eat, I enjoy your exchanges. And bless you on your new marriage.
---randy on 8/24/05

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F.F. Yes -- Paul Yonggi (David Cho) Cho is a word-faith teacher, i.e., "positive confession", prosperity teacher, the same as the aforementioned persons.

Go to Google. There's a plethora of data linking Cho's teachings to the others.
---Leon on 8/24/05

OK Randy,I won't eat:)
I'm 56 years old,I married 2 years ago,the previous year I had 2 surgeries and was also planning a move across country.I take care of a house and a husband,that's work!I am fortunate not to HAVE to work outside my home.I do edit books for a friend in Canada,that keeps me busy some days.I said nothing to cause jealousy,if it affected you that way excuse me,just making a point regarding investments.
A blundering remark of Robertson,I sent CBN an e-mail regarding that yesterday.
---NVBarbara on 8/24/05

Nvbarbara, Please research what goes on in the diamond mines. Slavery is very much part of the industry. Pat was forced to pay for his private use of Operation Blessing airplanes. His request to assassinate a democratically elected president makes it difficult for those of us who have to serve overseas and is un-Christian. You said that you havent worked in three years. 2 Thessalonians 3:10, basically - if you dont work you shouldnt eat. And I am supposed to be jealous? Im blessed to be able to work.
---randy on 8/24/05

Leon when you refer to:- Copeland, Hagin, Roberts, Tilton, Cho, Hinn, etc. are you referring to Paul Yongii Cho? I didn't realise that he was in that category. Is he or are you referring to someone else?
---F.F. on 8/24/05

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my Barb, i see. i do know that God is using him in a mighty way to help people receive healing.
---Eloy on 8/24/05

Bro Eloy, don't misunderstand, I don't think Benny is greedy.I had a problem when he came out with his Trinity idea, which he has since recanted.
Benny is one of the best OT teachers I have ever heard, NT as well. He was born to a very poor family in Israel and is the oldest son,the family moved to Canada when Benny was a teen.He only wanted to preach, but had a very bad stutter, and a thick accent.He was healed of his speech impediment and praised God!He looks back and KNOWS how blessed he is.
---NVBarbara on 8/23/05

Regretfully there are some pseudo-pastors who wish to only fleece their sheep instead of feeding their sheep. Have you ever had a televangelist visit you when you were sick, council you when you needed support, or perform a funeral service for a member of your family? Support those who support you!!!

This post has nothing to do with supporting the noble work of missionaries, domestic or foreign.
---notlaw99 on 8/23/05

nvBarbara - Your responses on this Blog demonstrates Biblical maturity and much wisdom! Thanks for sharing! :)
---DoryLory on 8/23/05

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If a Preacher has to Beg, They are not doing God's will which is "Feed My Sheep" If the sheep are fed they will come and will support the ministry.
God would not permit the disciples to beg. he sent them out two by two and only permitted to take a staff with them.
M'r:6:8: And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse:
Giving to these beggars will not earn our Father's Blessings.
---Dave5343 on 8/23/05

F.F.; All of the above! Some years ago, I was a member of a church, in Texas, that outwardly seemed to be rooted & grounded in the Word of God. In fact, the ministry taught us to diligently study & believe the Bible. But in time they gradually began leaning towards & espousing the teachings of Copeland, Hagin, Roberts, Tilton, Cho, Hinn, etc. I was horrified & heartbroken. Ultimately, I had to leave.

Real prosperity is "all about" winning lost souls back to God. (Matthew 6:19-24; 16:26)
---Leon on 8/23/05

Brother Bob, I read your answer again and connot make out what you mean. Can you explain? Why do you make it difficult to understand what you put down? Is there a trick to finding out what you write? Or is there an intention you don't want us to know?
---lupe2618 on 8/23/05

We went through Robertson's 'diamond mines' before. It was a personal investment of his, his buisness. NO slave labor was used, and they found out quickly that it was non profitable. Diamonds are a ok investment, he makes a salary,as does his wife as a full professor of nursing at a Univ., he can invest in what he wants to.
Don't be jealous over other's good fortune when it's gotton legally and not out of greed. Who among us can judge? I made sound investments and haven't worked in 3 years.
---NVBarbara on 8/23/05

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The rules forbids using "all capital letters", upper case letters is not shouting, rather entered for emphasis, etc.

It takes quite a bit for me to ShOuT [as you wrongly implied] at anyone, exclamation points included!

When All else Fails........!
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/23/05

Bob, I'm sure that I have read in the rules of Christianet somewhere that typing an entry all in capital letters is the equivalent of shouting at people. It is also very difficult to read. I'd be grateful if you would restrict your capital letters for odd words and phrases, here and there, which you wish to stand out from the rest? Thank you.
---F.F. on 8/23/05

Read H. Hills "King' Kid", or D. Shakarians "The Happiest People On Earth", for real life grassroots testimonies, & hopefully some will see why poverty brings God no glory, unless ..........!

It's like M. Ghandi said after being turned away from a "chistian" church for racial reasons after hearing/leaning towards the Gospel of Jesus Christ, "my religion has predjudice, why change"!

The World Is Watching! Matt.11:28-30.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 8/23/05

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