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Who Do I Tithe To

When it comes to tithing is one obligated to give to the church or is it ok to give it to a charity? I am often drawn to donate but will also give offering was wondering if it was ok? I saw in another blog we don't have to tithe where does it say in the NT bible?

Moderator - NT tithing isn't in the Bible. It is a myth of the church system to make people feel guilty. NT teaches "grace" giving. It all belongs to God, however He gives us a choice to give not under compulsion, but out of love for Him and others. Therefore, some give less and some give much more, but if we are Christians we should all be giving.

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Moderator- I think your question was answered from the first response. Your question "was to whom". Not, "how much". Your heart very well wants to give gladly. For instance, Im only a college student had a few hours to work last weeks. Although it aint much of a tithe, I had the same question: "To whom do I tithe to"? I dont go to church yet, but looking. Therefore I landed here. Upon reading the first reply, I decided Im going to buy my lil sister whom,is half orphaned, a brand new teen-bible she's been asking for. Sorry couldn't read the rest of the post. Give gladly away. Go to church? If not, then do the good thing to others just as He has been good to us.
---Steve on 3/16/10

Tithe is Greek for tenth. One does not tithe if they give less than a tenth. God wants us to tithe so that he can further bless us and others (Malachi 3:10). This verse also mentions the word "storehouse" and "house" which may be referred to as a Church or Temple in the OT.

The NT (Luke 6:38) explains that the measure you give is the measure you get back. So if you give much you will receive much and vice versa.

Having read the above, one should feel cheerful to give the full tithe.
---Joe on 1/22/09

The tithe is OT law. The New Testament says freewill offerings are superior.

The tithe was food and never money. Only herders and farmers were required to tithe. The poor and city dwellers did not tithe. Most important, a full 1/3 of the tithe went to feed the poor, disabled, and widows.

Ultimately, it is all Gods money, so a donation to the Salvation Army is part of the tithe in the same way as a donation to the local church. Show me a church that gives 1/3 of their budget to the poor and I will be surprised.

Instead, we have televangelists and preachers abusing people about paying up the full tithe so they can buy private jets and build health clubs for themselves and their congregations.
---obewan on 7/28/08

Yes NT tithing IS in the Bible look at Matthew 23:23"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law: judgment, mercy, and faith. These ought ye to have done and not to leave the other undone.And Matthew 5:17-20: I will send you that in another post as it was too long for this one.
---Christie on 7/26/08

GOD warns we are not to rob Him. We are to give Tithes and Offerings. That's how GOD has chosen to operate His Church, through His people giving in OBEDIENCE and LOVE. GOD is not going to "rain money down from Heaven". He chooses to support the Church in a way that all of the Saints have to "pull in together" with the resources that the LORD has "Blessed" them with. 10% is an easier number to work with. Tithe to a True Church or Ministry that "feeds" you the most!
---Gordon on 12/17/07

Matthew 23:23 - Jesus clearly says that the Pharisees should have practiced the latter (justice, mercy & faithfulness) WITHOUT neglecting the former (giving a tenth). Why would Jesus say this if tithing were NOT required? Also, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 16:2 that church members should set aside "a sum of money in keeping (proportionate) with his income." What is this if it is not a tithe? Not a NT requirement? I think you should consider both NT examples.

Moderator - If you believe you are under the Law to tithe versus free to give as a cheerful giver which can be much more than a tithe, you need to give the rest of the Offering required under the Law which equals about 30% of your income. Don't forget to eat your tithe every 3 years at the temple also plus many more rules. We are under "Grace Giving" in the NT.
---Crystal on 12/15/07

There is only one place in the Bible under the new covenant (after Christs death) that mentions tithing. This is Hebrew 7. This is a difficult chapter and not one typically used to endorse tithing. In fact, Paul was telling the Hebrews (converted Jews) not to tithe anymore since the law no longer applies. Jesus did tell the Pharisees not to neglect tithing. This makes sense since they were Jewish religious leaders bound by the law (He had not died for us yet!). The old covenant was still in effect.
---Jeff_Clay on 4/29/07

Randy, I'll keep that in mind and tithe double of my mint, dill and cummin.
---Ryan_Z on 4/27/07

To say NT tithing is not in the Bible is not true. Matthew 23:23 Jesus says something good about the Pharisees and that was that they tithed, and notice what Jesus said about the tithe,"these things you ought to have done, without neglecting the others." He did in the same verse critize them for not doing more. In "grace giving" one must also remember that "grace giving" taught by Jesus was "double" that which was required by the Law according to Matthew 5:38-42.
---Randy on 4/26/07

When I go and eat at the Chinese restraunt, where my stomach just got fed, should I then go to the Italian restraunt across the street to pay the bill??? Likewise when I walk into a church and that Pastor feeds my soul and spirit which is eternal food I might add, should I then go and tithe at the dead as a doornail church down the road who never fed my soul or spirit a morsel?
---Cynthia_1 on 4/8/07

Moderator - May I respectfully add that there probably are leaders within the church system that honestly do believe in the tithing system because of misinterpretation of scripture. I used to believe the same thing after reading the Bible (not being taught in tithing). Maybe it's only true some church systems teach it to make people feel guilty.The rest may be honestly mistaken.
---Sheila on 4/8/07

you have the right veiw. most churches
teach on the giving of tithes because of greed.when abraham,issac,david,or soloman gave an offering to god it was always an animal something with life and produces after its own kind.(grain,rice exc)money can not reproduce,nor does it grow on trees, its all about greed.
---mae on 4/7/07

Tithing was a part of the Old Testament Law. It is no longer applicable because Jesus did away with the whole of the Law on the Cross. I find it interesting that the false prosperity teachers teach tithing!
---Helen_5378 on 4/7/07

Of course donating to any worthy cause is Biblically ok. It's your choice as to whether to donate to church to help those proclaiming the gospel get their living by the gospel(1Co.9:14)such as how temple people were paid (1Co 9:13) if those allow any such offerings,they may not want it (1Co.9:15).Though Paul did use collection for other use(1Co.16:1-3).
---Sheila on 4/6/07

Tithes, as in Malachi, are to go to the storehouse, the place where you are fed. That would be your church. Offerings are above the tithe, that would be your charitable giving. Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek before the law, and Jesus is of the order of Melchizedek. When Jesus confronted the Pharisees in Matthew 23:23 he said they should tithe as well as show justice mercy and faith. The Lord loves a cheerful giver. Give liberally with an open hand and you will receive liberally. God bless!

Moderator - Abraham didn't pay tithes. He gave a tithe once.
Jesus didn't say pay tithes. Please reread both passages because you are quoting what comes from the pulpit versus from the Bible.
---chera on 4/6/07

The fast answer is to listen to your heart. The Law and the Prophets was fulfilled and written on our (believer's) hearts. Follow Paul's principles for giving and present a regular offering where you choose. Make a commitment to it and give cheerfully. Read Hebrews Chapters 8-10. Today's Christians are of the order of Jesus, who is of the order of Melchezidek. If we follow the actual rules on tithing, pastors would only get a tenth of the tenth as their salary with the rest going to the poor.
---Mike on 10/4/05

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By the way, I've read the first 5 books of the Bible. I just never knew they were called the Pentatuech. If I were a lover of money I would NEVER tithe. I tithe and give more as the Holy Spirit leads. Why do you pick and choose, mix and match, stretch and search for reasons to abolish the tithe? Because YOU don't want to practice this discipline!! Plain and simple. Betcha won't be posting this one, huh? Oh well, God knows!

Moderator - Actually I "Give" more than 10%. I can't tithe because tithing as Biblically outlined doesn't exist anymore. My church doesn't eat their tithe or give it to the poor - does your church to this? If not, your church is stealing the tithe as Biblically outlined. I can't give to the temple because it is under a Mosque in Jerusalem. Please read the Pentatuech to understand. The scribes Jesus addressed followed the Law and they were suppose to tithe, Jesus wasn't addressing Christians, but Jews under the Law.
---Crystal on 10/3/05

Part 1 - Tithe is the Hebrew word for tenth. Examples of tithing were practiced before the Law such as Genesis 28:20-22 when Jacob vowed to tithe. Of course tithing was part of the Law as practiced in Leviticus 27:30-34. Tithing was ten percent of ones' grain, fruit, animals or money. Tithing wasn't specially mentioned or commanded in the New Testament; however the principle of giving was practiced. Tithing as practiced in the Old Testament would be quite difficult indeed such as eating part of the tithe at the temple or every third year the tithe went to the poor Deuteronomy 14:28-29.
---Moderator on 10/2/05

Part 2 - The principle of giving was practiced in the New Testament. Paul gave instructions for the saints to save weekly as God has blessed them 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 and to give cheerfully and not under compulsion 2 Corinthians 9:6-8. The principle of giving was practiced in the New Testament. Paul gave instructions for the saints to save weekly as God has blessed them 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 and to give cheerfully and not under compulsion 2 Corinthians 9:6-8. Under Grace in the New Testament, everything belongs to God, not just ten percent. Therefore, we should give as much as we possibly can so that the Kingdom of God can be furthered versus giving the bare minimum commanded under the Law of ten percent. Many Christians can give more than ten percent and should bless those preaching the Gospel as they have been spiritually blessed themselves by the messengers. Without giving, how would the building, salaries, books, music and other Gospel materials be paid for?
---Moderator on 10/2/05

Part 3 - Even though the Apostle Paul earned his living by working a job Acts 20:33-35, he states that they which preach the Gospel should get their living from the Gospel 1 Corinthians 9:13-14. Jesus also taught that a worker of the Gospel is worthy of his hire Luke 10:1-7. Ministers should be paid, but just as in the case of Paul, they may choose to work a job and forgo ministry pay.
---Moderator on 10/2/05

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Part 4 - Christians should obey God Psalm 1:1-3, be generous Proverbs 11:24-25, give to the poor Proverbs 19:17, trust God Proverbs 28:25 and pray and forgive others Job 42:10 for God to bless them.Christians should obey God Psalm 1:1-3, be generous Proverbs 11:24-25, give to the poor Proverbs 19:17, trust God Proverbs 28:25 and pray and forgive others Job 42:10 for God to bless them. Notice that God will meet our needs, but may or may not meet our wants Philippians 4:19. One definition of having our needs being met is obtaining all we require including finances to fulfill the purposes of our life that God has given each one of us. For some people that may mean that they need one hundred dollars per month of finances while another person may need one million dollars per month to fulfill the call of God on their life.
---Moderator on 10/2/05

Part 5 - The love of money is the root of all evil and has caused many to wander from the faith 1 Timothy 6:9-10.The love of money is the root of all evil and has caused many to wander from the faith 1 Timothy 6:9-10. Examples of the love of money would include Ananias and Sapphira who lied to the Holy Ghost Acts 5:1-6 and Judas Iscariot who stole from the money bag while with Jesus John 12:4-6. Some people could have one dollar and have the love of money while others could have one million dollars and not love money. We should all check our hearts and make sure that we love God and His work more than money.
---Moderator on 10/2/05

What in the world is the Pentatuech? I don't even know!

Moderator - The Pentatuech is the first five books of the Bible which presents the Law. This is where one first learns about tithing, offering and money. Without understanding what the Pentatuech says about money, it would be impossible to fully understand the NT scriptures on the subject.
---Crystal on 10/2/05

Yes I would also agree that the 10% of net salary is a good guideline for giving to the church or other charity. And I have found that God blesses those that not only give of their money but also their time and talents.
---lee on 10/2/05

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Finally, I'd like to say that I love the Lord and serve Him to the best of my ability. I read His Word and embrace every word as the absolute truth.

Moderator - Crystal, I am sure that you love the Lord :) I am just trying to get you to move off of opinions and move to the scriptures. Until one reads the scriptures outlined, they will not fully understand what the NT is saying on tithing, offerings and money. Because I love you in the Lord, I am strongly encouraging to read these scriptures.
Very few Pastors will lead us to the truth when it comes to God's money.
---Crystal on 10/1/05

You have given me the scriptures? Really? Please review your answers & tell me where.

Moderator - As previously stated, please read the Pentateuch on tithing, offering and money. Once one reads these scriptures, one will know immediately that nobody can tithe today because it is impossible. All a person can do is give. If a person decides to give 10% as with the conversation with Alan, it would be a good start. I encourage all to read these scriptures and then to enter into discussion so we are not into opinions, but scripture.
---Crystal on 10/1/05

Whether or not it is a rule now, it is perhaps a good guide-line.

Moderator - I agree giving 10% to further the Kingdom of God is a great start. We can "give 10%" we just can't tithe because it isn't possible to follow the rules of tithing.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/1/05

If Jesus Christ, my Savior and Lord, is going to tell the scribes and the Pharisees that they ought NOT to neglect tithing, I am not going to neglect tithing. I want my righteousness to surpass their's else I won't enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Tithing is one of those OT commands that is NOT abolished in the NT. Disagree? Show me where specifically!

Moderator - I have shown you, but you refuse to read the scriptures.
---Crystal on 10/1/05

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(cont) but whoever practices & teaches these commands will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness SURPASSES that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

Moderator - Exactly, it all belongs to God.
---Crystal on 10/1/05

Matt 5:17-20 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven & earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commands & teaches others to do the same will be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Moderator - Then you now understand that Jesus fulfilled the Law. Now go read the Law on tithing, offering and money and see what was fulfilled on these topics.
---Crystal on 10/1/05

I don't read the bible? Whatever gave you that idea? I read it every day & have a specific time dedicated to this! I believe the word that came from Christ's own mouth, yet you refuse to address this. You think you have a better answer than the one He gave!! Matt 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes & Pharisees, hypocrites! You TITHE mint, dill & cummin, yet neglect the weightier matters of the law - justice, mercy & faith; YOU OUGHT TO HAVE DONE THE FORMER, without neglecting the latter."

Moderator - Crystal, are you a scribe, pharisee or hypocrite because that is whom Jesus is addressing. Christians are required to read all the tithing, offering and money scriptures. Why will you not read the scriptures that were presented which give a more complete understanding? Is it pride, fear, laziness, or?
---Crystal on 10/1/05

John 15:10 ,John 14:15,he didnt say the ten commandments .he commanded ALOT of things. you get more back the more you you dont want blessed back keep it, he doesnt want it if you are giving it grudgingly->2 Corinthians 9:7 NT -> Luke 18:12 - I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. the word 'tithe' means 10% and Luke is the new testament even the pharasee paid tithe. why does people have a problem giving money to the Lord's work?you think you ask them to cut off a arm.
---Jan4876 on 9/30/05

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There are always those that simply refuse to recognize that the covenant God made with the Jews is quite different from the one He has with the church. There is absolutely nothing in the New Testament that commands the tithe.

Preaching the tithe is really a means of exploitation of those that do not know the Scriptures. The church used to sell indulgences and now some teach tithing; both being based upon twisted scripture.

Moderator - You are correct Lee. As you can see, even when shown the scriptures some people don't want to read the Bible and would rather remain ignorant of God's Word.
---lee on 9/30/05

Why is disagreeing with you "making a negative remark?" I have read the words of Jesus Christ on the subject of tithing. What higher authority exists? If, from Jesus' own mouth, we are told NOT to neglect tithing, why must I look for other resources to confirm or deny the principle? And you still don't know if Abraham tithed once, twice, three times or a dozen. Once the law was established, he obeyed it. Didn't he? So should we!

Moderator - Bottomline, you will not read the Pentateuch scriptures on tithing and offering? If you don't read the Bible, how do you know what you believe is correct?
---Crystal on 9/30/05

Because there is only one recorded instance of Abraham tithing in the Bible DOES NOT mean that he only tithed once. Jesus performed many miracles, so many that only a few could be recorded. The Bible does not mention every single thing a man or woman of God ever did in their life. That presumption is absurd and untrue.

Moderator - True he might haved tithed twice, but that still is not tithing. Abraham was dead before the Law came into being so it would have been impossible for him to follow the tithing and offering Laws. Instead of making a negative remark, why won't you read the Pentateuch?
---Crystal on 9/30/05

I am convinced that when people see the tithe as an instrument of blessing they will not be looking for a way to give less, but a way to give more. God will help them so that they can be generous on every occasion.

Read Mal 3:10
---kalig8456 on 9/30/05

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Abraham tithed before the law, and God blessed him supernaturally. We're under grace that we might establish the law; not turn from it. Jesus said that He didn't come to do away with the law, but to fulfill it. Because He fulfilled it, we are to establish it. His Words are forever settled in heaven, therefore we establish His Words upon the earth. Matthew 5:17-19

Moderator - Abraham tithed one time, therefore if he was a tither he set a bad example.
---kalig8456 on 9/30/05

Many Christians do not tithe because they have been taught that they are not under the law, but under grace. While this is a true statement, God did not institute the tithe to bring us under the law, but to get blessings to His children.
---kalig8456 on 9/30/05

The tithe is that tenth of our income that we give to God, which enables Him to move on our behalf in the area of blessings. The Bible records numerous accounts of man tithing to God. God is the creator of everything that exists. He owns everything and we are simply stewards of what we have been entrusted with. The tithe principle is this; "He gives unto us, we give back to Him one-tenth of all that He has blessed us with."
---kalig8456 on 9/30/05

someone told me that J.C.Penny gave 90%, seems like the more you give the more you get back. I gave my bill money cause I didnt have tithe and got back thousands. and never have any money worries I give offering as well and its true what the bible says, he will open the windows of heaven.its a faith test.God doesnt need your money ,God created earth.FAITH. and by the way TITHE MEANS 10% faith and obedience is all he wants, then he pours out the blessings and goes...SEE I TOLD YOU
---Jan4876 on 9/29/05

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Thank you for the verses and the encouragement. You are so right, sister!
---Crystal on 9/29/05

Usually those that advocate the tithe simply are ignorant of the Bible. The tithe was for the support of the Jewish priesthood and the temple. It instructs farmers to bring in a tenth of their produce...something not practical in this day and age, especially when the farmer can't make ends met financially in todays market. We should let giving be based upon how we are blessed not some legalistic directive.
---lee on 9/29/05

Tithing is in the new covenant,the old Woman in Luke 21 v 2 was commemded. God does notbreak covenant. The covenant of night and day of seed time and harvest will never be broken. When Jesus died the LAW which was unto death died and the things that were unto life remained.Mat7V6 said give not that which is Holy unto the dogs Your tithe is Holy and if you do not give it to God then you are giving it to dogs. read Luke 18V12 .1Cor. 9 v 14. Acts 4 v 34 Luke 18v12. Mat6. Love Judith
---judith on 9/29/05

With the death of Jesus and the establishment of the New Convenant, He just wants us to give what He asks us to give. That is what is called listening and obeying the voice of the Holy Spirit. No, being of the fold, He promises to take care of us. We are His! He loves us. Also, subjecting yourself to the tithe actually puts a veil over your mind because you are looking into a old covenant system which has been abolished and nailed to the cross, with it's regulations. . Patti
---Patti on 9/29/05

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I have always tithed whether I made $60 or $600/wk. God has always taken care of everything I need."If God has your billfold,He has YOU!"Satan tries to make nonChristians think that All preachers want your they won't give to God's work..and be blessed.I went 1 whole yr without a paycheck,a husband,or good health..God provided in ways I could write a book about!My credit is still excellent,too.We are to be a "river"(flowing),not a pond(stagnant).
---lovable_linda on 9/29/05


Wow! What a wonderful, perfect, inspired answer. I believe that none of us will ever, ever suffer when we are obedient to God and His Word. In fact, He promises to meet all our needs when we are faithful in the small things, and I think 10% is a pretty small thing. Good point about the 90% being sufficient for anyone to provide for their families. You're awesome!
---Crystal on 9/29/05

then God will judge HIMSELF because it is HE who COMMANDS it. If a person can't feed their kids on 90% of their salary, they're not going to be able to off 100% either. There could have been numerous other explanations to his financial problems, and I'm sure had you looked closer at the situation, you would have found that obedience to God was not one of them
---MH on 9/29/05

I used to work with a sailor that had 4 kids and his church demanded the tithe. As a result, his children were always over at a neighbors place looking for something to eat. The tithe for a good dentist is a tax deduction while to a enlisted sailor it very well may mean food right off the table. God will judge those ministers that demand a tithe.
---lee on 9/28/05

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How much to give??
10% is commonly used as an optomistic guideline,
In UK the figures show that poorer people generally give a greater proportion of their income to church and charity than do rich people.
And when I have collected round houses, it is the poor and middle income who gladly give, and the wealthy who will not answer the door
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/27/05

Is anyone able to explain that 28% thing?

Looking back to the question, the tithing was all given to the temple, because the temple looked after the poor etc.

Nowadays the church looks after itself mainly and also give away some of it's income to missions and charities.

Secular charities nowadays do a lot of what the temple would have done. So I think we may give what we give, not only to the church, but to selected charities as well
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/27/05

I tithe in obedience to the Word of God. I practice tithing as a discipline too, not unlike my morning devotionals. These are things that I do (time & money) to honor God and His directives. However, both are also joys as well. When I feel led by the Holy Spirit to give above and beyond my tithe, I do so though I do not track these monies because I feel like this is something between the Lord and I and I don't want a tax-break for those offerings. I figure God has that all under control.
---Crystal on 9/26/05

read in the bible about tithing. It is to be given to your church..Lots of verses on tithing.
---Iva on 9/26/05

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You can find equal support for either practice (tithing or grace giving) on the internet. However, I do not consider the internet to be the final authority on earth. I look instead to the Word of God and, since Jesus said that tithing was something that we should not neglect, I think I'm gonna tithe!

Moderator - One would use the Internet to locate Bible scriptures by doing searches in Bible software online. What were you doing? Of course one can tithe and there is nothing wrong with it, provided it is done with a cheerful heart. I would just hope for those that tithe that they don't limit themselves to tithing only and a strict set of rules that limit the Holy Spirit from operating.
---Crystal on 9/26/05

As Jesus often did in the New Testament, He was chastising the "godly" folks of His time & pointing out to them where they were failing miserably in their religious practices. He was NOT saying that they should tithe while god-fearing, true believers should not. He was making the point that they were making a show of being "outwardly righteous" while remaining "inwardly corrupt." We WILL be held to the same standards He outlined for these folks.

Moderator - Did you look up "Grace Giving"? If not, why not?
---Crystal on 9/23/05

Matt 23:23 (Jesus' words) "Woe to you, scribes & Pharisees, hypocrites! You TITHE (1/10) mint, dill & cummin, yet neglect the weightier matters of the law - justice, mercy & faith; YOU OUGHT TO HAVE DONE THE FORMER, without neglecting the latter." If these words came from my own Lord's mouth, I believe they are trustworthy! I will tithe, (since Jesus clearly said not to neglect this practice) but I will also embrace justice, mercy & faith!!

Moderator - Are you a Scribe, Pharisee or hypocrite? Do a search for "Grace Giving" on the Internet.
---Crystal on 9/23/05

As much as some people would like to discard the Old Testament, Jesus said, "I did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it." The Old Testament is still FULL of good advice, wonderful encouragement, and (yes) laws that should be observed. Tithing is one of those laws that Christ insisted should not be neglected and says so clearly in the New Testament. However, the verses given by the Moderator do not (in my mind) support his/her theory of "grace" giving.

Moderator - I just gave very basic information hoping that those that are interested in searching the scriptures deeper would have enough information to start ie use the search engines. We will hopefully have more time next year to provide the tools for various topics.
---Crystal on 9/22/05

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I beg your pardon- you have no idea of WHAT I give. I obey God's word on the (once again) COMMANDED TENTH, without fail, but believe me, I'm not worried at all about whether or not I'm meeting the 28% theory when it comes to OFFERING giving over and above the COMMANDED TENTH. You are leading people astray with your "make-your-own-rules" gospel. You still avoid the extremely clear COMMAND of GOD in Malachi and wont comment on it. You are the one who is fighting obedience to God's word.

Moderator - Instead of giving and reading the scriptures it appears you are becoming emotional. Please consider reading the Bible scriptures I gave you because that is how one grows and learns by reading the Word of God. I already commented on Malachi as it is in the OT. Malachi as you should know is a book of the Bible in the OT.
---Sissy on 9/21/05

Dear Moderator,

You are wise to ask people to show biblical proof for their statements of faith. Now, for the second day in a row, I am respectfully requesting that you do the same and give us (the readers) biblical proof for your statements of "grace" tithing. I'm only asking you for one or two verses that support this belief, so that we can make an informed choice. Thanks!

Moderator - I listed 2 scriptures just a few postings below. Thanks.
---Crystal on 9/21/05

I base what I believe on scriptures in the OLD testament. They are GOD'S COMMANDS, not man's. Where are you getting this 28% stuff? And by the way, the 2 Scripture ref you gave in Corinthians- "Tithe" was not mentioned, I believe Paul was referring to offerings- over and above the COMMANDED tenth. In Malachi, GOD SAID- "you have robbed me in tithe AND IN OFFERINGS" That clearly means he expects HIS people to do both.

Moderator - Read the book of Deuteronomy for the 28%. Do you eat your tithe at the temple every 3 years? If not, you are not even following the tithing rules. Read in Deuteronomy what tithing and offering is and I guarantee that you are not following the rules. Sounds like you are looking for ways to give God less because according to the Bible it ALL belongs to Him.
---Sissy on 9/21/05


You always ask for scriptural proof of people's beliefs. I think this is a very good thing! Now, please provide us (the readers) with New Testament scriptural proof to support your idea of "grace" tithing. Just a verse or two would be fine.

Moderator - 1 Corinthians 16:1-4 and 2 Corinthians 9:6-8 are two examples. "Grace Giving"
---Crystal on 9/20/05

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Moderator, please show scripture to prove YOUR comments that THE OLD TESTAMENT IS TOTALLY IRRELAVANT AND WE SHOULD COMPLETELY IGNORE IT! He DOES give us a choice, you are right in that. BUT, if our hearts are truly changed and we love the Lord, we are NOT going to argue about CHEERFULLY giving a meager 10% of what HE has blessed us with. Why do you fight against the God you claim to know so much, and insist on finding ways to NOT obey HIS word?!

Moderator - If you follow the money laws of the OT you should be giving 28%, otherwise you are stealing. The NT is "Grace Giving" 100% of everything we have belongs to God; not some token 10%. Still waiting for your tithing scriptures in the NT?
---Sissy on 9/20/05

we are under Gods grace but we are to live accordingly to the whole Bible,, we live by the ten commandments dont we? in Acts the church gave Im sure accordingly and even more so because they had the love of Jesus Christ in their hearts,, God gives every good thing to us and we should give back,, tithing is in the Bible and you cant exclude it, we should give willingly with cheerful hearts, not even think of it being sacrificial as i hear some say, remember the woman and she gave all she had, a penny?
---michele on 9/20/05

Judit- The Christian is COMMANDED by GOD to give tithes, to the storehouse (temple, church). People can twist the scriptures all they want to fit their own....whatever, but it's still the truth. Tithes go to your church, offerings go to your churches mission outreaches first, then to other ministries as God leads. I don't know how people think the local church runs- it costs money to run a church bldg, just like it does your house. HELLO?!

Moderator - Please show the scriptures to prove your comments. Also remember to show all related scriptures which add up to 28% of your income. Remember to show every 3rd year we are to eat the tithe in the temple. Sorry, but we are under "Grace Giving"; it all belongs to God.
---Sissy on 9/19/05

erika, i post the truth only, and readers are not obligated to accept it. Jesus never charged 10 percent, and not even 1 cent before he ministered to anyone, and Jesus didn't command any of us to charge 10 percent, that's O.T. law. God's grace is 100 percent free for all, and not to be merchandised by anyone. If you want to "pay" God, then give ALL, give 100% to the poor and follow Jesus.
---Eloy on 9/16/05

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You tithe to your "storehouse". That is where you are spiritually fed or witnessed to, such as the church you attend.

Moderator - Please show this in the Bible.
---Debbie on 9/15/05

To go along with the Moderator, under Grace, it is not just about money, but of our time as well. Where one may not financially give, but through other means support the ministry. Mowing the lawn, Cleaning the church building, making needed repairs, Or even helpping other members in your church family. Christ had nothing, but of himself he gave freely, even the death on the cross.
---geraa7578 on 9/15/05

Think of it this way when it comes to tithe. Everything you have was given to you by the Lord. So in turn, when you give your tithe, you are essentially giving it back to the Lord, and to help spread the Lord's word.
---Scott on 9/15/05

We are to pay our tithes to the Lord. Generally, I give my tithes to our church to help in the spreading of God's word. Recently I gave my tithes to a local Christian organization housing 28 hurricane victims.

God bless.
---Dorothy on 9/15/05

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Now I concede that the only text I found so far where Jesus affirms the tithe paying principle is MATH 23:23
Then there is 1 COR 8 which talks about how the Jews suppored church workers and the suggestion is made that what worked could/should work still. Finally the passage written just for you: 2 COR 8: 1-15 all about GRACE GIVING !
So I think the conclusion is that while Christ endorsed tithepaying it seems to be more about generosity than law. I welcome your comment.

Moderator - Yes, it is all about Grace Giving. Because we aren't under the Law we are free to give of all our resources. In addition, as Christians we have the Holy Spirit to guide and direct our giving which the Jews didn't have under the Law (rules & regulations).
---Pierr7958 on 9/15/05

MOD. It is a new day and I would like to have you consider the following thought and give me your feedback.
I see the Mosaic Laws as having BOTH rules and regulations pertaining to the sacrificial services which pointec to Christ's coming (and which were nailed to the cross when he came) and rules and regulations NOT related to His coming but still worthy to be followed (ex. pertaining to healthful living and christian stewardship. TBC

Moderator - I agree and that is one of the reasons tithing is under the Law. The Jewish system of money rules and regulations were fulfilled. Jews can't and don't even practice those old money Laws because it is not possible today. Today, we are under "Grace Giving" and we are free to give as we feel cheerful knowing that Christ gave all for us. I think Christians should be the biggest givers around with all the resources that God has placed into our hands to His glory.
---Pierr7958 on 9/15/05

There's alot of things that the NT doesn't tell us to refrain from, but we're supposed to do anyway because WE WERE TAUGHT THAT IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. --erika6999
---erika on 9/15/05

eloy, read this:

Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. -2 cor. 4:2

are you trying to use bits and pieces of God's word to DISTORT it and convince yourself that you don't have to give Him tithings? I tithe AND give to charity, out of love for them, and God.
---erika on 9/15/05

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When I moved recently, wasn't going to a church, I tithed 10% to IN TOUCH MINISTRIES, Charles Stanley is the minister, preaches 55 minutes Biblical truth. When I want to give to a charity, It is above and beyond my tithe and is considered ALMS in the bible. Tithe is to further the church, Gods Kingdom.
church is where God intends tithe to go
---bobba4344 on 9/15/05

tithing is a Christian principle. I have found that tithing to the church 10%, thru the years, has helped Build Gods Kingdom, by allowing the church to function, people hear the gospel and hearts are saved. I have also found by obeying the principle of tithing that God has ALWAYS TAKEN CARE OF ME. Am I rich, no I am not. But my NEEDS ARE MET. I have often tithed when very broke, and I've seen God honor that by bringing me whatever I needed. It is an obedience and it is faith based. And it is biblical
---bobba4344 on 9/15/05

Titheing is O.T. "You cannot serve 2 masters, the O.T. and N.T., for a little leaven leavens the whole lump; nor serve God and riches: take free, donate free." Jesus whipped out the moneychangers and said they were turning church into a den of robbers. He scolded the Ministers in Mt 23:23 for titheing, and said,..."and you all have left aside the weightier of the law, judgment and mercy and faith: these it befits to do and those not to be leaving aside." It's good giving to charity.
---Eloy on 9/15/05

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