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Does anyone know about Mormon beliefs? I was told as a child that they didn't believe in hell, that you either went to heaven or the grave was your "hell."

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Upon physical death, your spirit leaves the body and enters the spirit world where it dwells in paradise or prison. Those in paradise were faithful and obediant on earth. Those in prison were not or were never given the chance to hear of Christ. Therefore, people from paradise visit prison and act as missionaries to teach those in prison, allowing them to accept or reject the gospel. This continues until resurrection and final judgement. Everyone is resurrected, no matter what. Judgement determines which level of glory you will dwell in for eternity. There are 3 degrees: Celestial (highest), Terrestrial, and Telestial. There is also an outer darkness which is reserved for Satan and the sons of perdition.
---C. on 3/8/10

According to the Book of Abraham, one day on Kolob is equal to a thousand years on Earth - so I'm guessing it's somewhere around New Jersey.
---kathr4453 on 8/21/08

Sheet music from the Mormon Tabernacle choir:

If You Could Hie to KOLOB

If you could hie to Kolob in the twinkling of an eye,
And then continue onward with the speed of light to fly,
D'ye think that you could ever, through all eternity,
Find out the generation where Gods began to be?

This is just the first verse. I really think this 4 th verse here is very telling.....where GODS began to be???? YIKES!!!

And that is the issue. YOU are not gods who began to be, entering into the flesh of man.
Just as those who were destroyed in the FLOOD..when possibly the sons of GodAngels? interacted with mankindor depraved man marrying into the line of Seth/ whatever your take...God destroyed.
---kathr4453 on 8/20/08

***Kath - I understand the point you are trying to make but I still believe that these particular scriptures (POGP) are indeed an actual lesson on the stars.***

Scripture isn't about astrology and lessons about stars.

Form your own doctrine:
Mormonism is an outer-space-oriented religion. One of our Scriptures state as far it has been translated correctly:

"And thus there shall be the reckoning of the time of one planet above another, until thou come nigh unto Kolob, which Kolob is after the reckoning of the Lord's time, which Kolob is set nigh unto the throne of God, to govern all those planets which belong to the same order as that upon which thou standest."

---kathr4453 on 8/20/08

Kath - I understand the point you are trying to make but I still believe that these particular scriptures (POGP) are indeed an actual lesson on the stars.

I have been to thousands of Sacrament, Sunday school and various other meetings and can say with all honesty that I have never heard Kolob mentioned. It really isn't a big deal.
---Tammy2 on 8/19/08


1 Chronicles 27:23
But David took not the number of them from twenty years old and under: because the LORD had said he would increase Israel like to the stars of the heavens.

LIKE TO is not the actual stars. Here is a difference.

God said to Abraham:
Genesis 22:17
That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore, and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies, in comparison....not the actual.

WHO are Abraham's seed?

Those who are Christ's ARE Abraham's FAITH...not by being some spirit or soul baby waiting to enter the flesh of man.
---kathr4453 on 8/19/08

The scripture quoted by Kath is correct. I don't see where it claims that Kolob is the birthplace of Jesus. I also admit that I miss the point (assuming there is one) regarding the comparison to the scripture in Exodus.

Pierre - Mormons do not believe the Bible is superior to the Bible, though we do believe it is more correctly translated. A friend and I once compared scriptures on three different translations of the Bible - while many were essentially the same, there were PLENTY that carried completely different meanings! Try it sometime and see for yourself.
---Tammy2 on 8/15/08

Taken from the Mormons Pearl....

And I saw the stars, that they were very great, and that one of them was nearest unto the throne of God, and there were many great ones which were near unto it,

And the Lord said unto me: These are the governing ones, and the name of the great one is Kolob, because it is near unto me, for I am the Lord thy God: I have set this one to govern all those which belong to the same order as that upon which thou standest.


The Bible says:

Exodus 32:13
Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, ......
---kathr4453 on 8/15/08

The TRUTH about Kolob (again). Mormons have additional scriptures through modern revelation. The Pearl of Great Price is one of those books. In it there is a book of Abraham. In that book Abraham is essentially given an astronomy lesson. He is told that the greatest star is called "Kolob" and that it is nearest to God. We DO NOT believe that Kolob is the birthplace of Jesus or that it is the planet where our God lives or that we came from there - that's just another tactic of those who like to distort the truth. The existence of the STAR, Kolob is not really significant to any of our beliefs!
---Tammy2 on 8/14/08

Mormons believe Jesus came from the Star KOLOB, and they are/were little spirit babies from KOLOB waiting to enter into the earthly body taking possession of it.

Many Mormon beliefs came from Calvinism. I'm not saying Calvinism teaches this. Joseph Smith grew up in the NE and exposed to Calvinism, and the idea of the pre-existent "elect" as Calvinism teaches, started a knock off religion.

The Question I Calvinists actually believe THEY preexist (ed)...and are little spirit babies for-ordained to enter a body preselected to salvation?

---kathr4453 on 8/14/08

Mormons believe:
That the Bible is the Word of God only as far as it is translated correctly. They consider the Book of Mormons superioe to the Bible, because the words are "pure"
That man preexisted with God as an immortal soul before being created. Hence the main reason for the creation was to provide bodies for the souls. TBC
---Pierr7958 on 8/13/08

I would like to fill in the gaps that Andrea neglected to mention. First, she quoted the first quarter of verse 18 in the D & C and left out 3/4 of it and there was nothing from 19-21 and they count for a lot. Most importantly she didn't mention what D & C 128:17 says (it's what Joseph Smith was referring to.) I know most of you don't believe that these scriptures are inspired but I believe it's necessary to expose the half truths our faith that are repeatedly offered by those like Andrea.
---Tammy on 9/18/07

D & C 128:17 is a statement made in regard to baptism for the dead - in verse 16 he had quoted from the scripture in I Cor 15:29 - in which Paul asks why the Corinthians perform baptism for the dead if they no longer believe in the ressurrection. Note that he doesn't tell them that the practice is wrong. (sorry, "Christians" - he doesn't). cont...
---Tammy on 9/18/07

In verse 17, Joseph Smith quotes Malachi 4:5 & 6 - those are the verses he is translating in verse 18. I understand that you don't believe these scriptures are inspired but you should at least know the context by which they are spoken.
---Tammy on 9/18/07

As a former missionary of Jesus Christ, it never ceases to amaze me what fantasies people often dream up in their minds and profess it as truths.

no I suspect that no fantasy surprises you - you believe all of the LDSs

I stick with quoting Joseph Smith - its wild beyond fables
---Andrea on 9/18/07

As a former missionary of Jesus Christ, it never ceases to amaze me what fantasies people often dream up in their minds and profess it as truths. andrea. do you want to know why millions of people join the church around the world every year. Because they have read the bible, not listened to babblings of man inventing doctrines. When they hear the gospel, it harmonizes with what they read in the bible and they pray for the Holy Ghost to answer their prayer in truth. it is that simple.
---ashley on 9/18/07

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D & C 128: 18, 21
18 I might have rendered a plainer translation to this, but it is sufficiently plain to suit my purpose as it stands. It is sufficient to know, in this case, that the earth will be smitten with a curse unless there is a welding clink of some kind or other between the fathers and the children, upon some subject or otherand behold what is that subject? It is the baptism for the dead.

this is a small sample of the inspired Doctrine and covenants
---Andrea on 9/17/07

Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is MICHAEL, the Archangel,

---Andrea on 9/17/07

it dose not matter what anyone says we do not believe a word that is not bible based. very sorry but your wasting your time telling us what anything Mormon says we do not believe it not for a second sorry please look to the bible and only the bible for help.
---iboic on 9/17/07

I started listening to mormon missionaries but I saw this question and now I think you are all liars.

Joseph Smith said that he was translating ancient writings of
Abraham (written by Abraham's own hand) from the Egyptian, even going
so far as to make an Egyptian grammar and alphabet through inspiration
to help him with the task. Subsequent Egyptologists have translated
the texts and found that they have nothing to do with Abraham.
---blaze on 9/16/07

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You have now returned to mormonism .. how many times?
You are a serial leaver and returner.
---alan_of_UK on 6/7/07

Candice, congratulations. I am happy for you and your daughter. You have my full support in any way you need it, the same as everyone else I come into contact with. Everyone has the freedom to choose in life what makes them happy. Jesus said love thy neighbor as thyself. If we do that, why is there contention and hatred shown towards others. Are we not all trying to learn truth and develop a personal relationship with Jesus Christ? We are not perfect yet, but we are taking small baby steps to glory.
---ashley on 6/7/07

I retract my statement I made over a year ago after leaving the church, I found out they defentily do have a Sunday School class using all the books, Bible,Bom ,D&C Pearl of Great price. Ashley I agree with you, people are too quick to judge others because others do not fit in their social "club"& that is what some mainstream churches are turning into.
---candice on 6/6/07

PT2: Also adding this quickly..I have many friends whom are LDS & they are christians. If you find it hard to accept the founder of the LDS church, then why accept anyone like the RCC,Luther,etc starting those denominations?If you judge judge wisely for God judges you with the same measure, I have returned to the church in the past 3 weeks & my daughter is worknig toward her baptisim as am I.& I still love the Lord, & btw the trinity is made by pagans/romans not chrisitans.
---Candice on 6/6/07

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Don't believe everything that you were taught as a child. Besides, anyone with a little common sense knows that there is a heaven then there has got to be hell and anyone with a little commom sense knows that there is a God so therefore there is a Devil and this Devil is also ruining people's lives here and certainly throughout all eternity.
---catherine on 6/6/07

Ashley, mormon apologists have a full time job. Regardless if you're getting paid or not for all of this damage control; your 'trying' isn't worth a hoot. Sinners are saved by Jesus Christ. Temple works, callings, will not get you to heaven. Neither do secret names, or handshakes.
Christians also have missionaries that witness to mormon missionaries.
Because Jesus Christ is written over your church doors, doesn't change the fact that your church says Jesus is the brother of Lucifer.
---Melanie on 6/6/07

this blog prompted me to ask others about judgment. We all try our best to live in the image of Jesus Christ, to love him with all our hearts, avoid temptation, help others. answer questions to the best of our ability and knowledge of the scriptures. No one should condemn anyone from any denomination that live to glorify Jesus Christ. He is all that really matters. No one knows whose name is in the Lamb's book of life. To condemn anyone, we are in fact condemning ourselves to the same fate.
---ashley on 6/6/07

One thing for sure, if you want to know what a Christian believes, ask a Christian.
---Caroline on 6/5/07

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(I have no idea who or what Michael is.) one thing is correct, if you want to know what a SDA, a baptist, a Hindu, a Shinto, a Methodist or a Mormon really believes, go to a member of that faith. When I want to know what a Buddhist believes, I will not go to a Baptist, a Hindu, a coptic, or a Mormon, I will go to a Buddhist.
---MikeM on 6/4/07

MikeM., using my name. The emotionalism of it all. So emotional to use someone else's name.

"I can't believe the amount of false information being written here.There is almost not one word of truth in all the posts on this subject.For goodness sake if you want to find out what mormons believe, ASK THEM. see the official websites of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints to see what we really believe.
---michael on 12/31/06 "
---Michael on 6/3/07

You answered your own question, that sums it up. That is correct, the mormon does not believe in a literal hell.

"Is not the name of our church The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"?
Anyone who has ever attempted to enter a discussion with a Mormon about whether or not Mormons are Christians will encounter this question; mormons find it unthinkable that we don't agree that posting the name Jesus over the doors of Mormon Churches makes them Christian.
---Livermore_CA on 6/3/07

Mormonism wants it both ways.
Distinguish itself as The One True Church and at the same time depart from the Christian Church (or, to excommunicate the rest of the Christian Church). Mormons state that all other churches are abominable and corrupt. (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith v. 19) Mormonism wants to be included in the family of Christian churches. It wants to be the One True Church, when it is convenient, and it wants to be a member of the larger Christian community when that is convenient.
---LivermoreCA on 6/3/07

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Ashley fights hard here on the Christian site, to be a Christian and convince us that he is one.
Then Ashley gives us his curses, which automatically identifies him as a Mormon.
---LivermoreCA on 6/3/07

"BOM is another testament of Jesus Christ" No, it is not.
It is a testament of another Jesus Christ:

I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. (II Cor. 11:3-4)
---LivermoreCA on 6/3/07

Abby. don't believe anything you hear. If you want to know what the church believes, I will answer any question you have. That way, you get the truth and not fiction like many spread. I have been a member for most of my life and there is no question I cannot answer for you. I will not be offended if you don't believe my answers or choose to disagree. people have scorned us for 180 years because we are not like the world. we actually practise what we preach and don't indulge in sins of the flesh.
---ashley on 5/27/07

it is always interesting to read what people say. reading the blogs here, it is just like satan, mixing fact with fiction to mislead many. if following Jesus Christ to the best of your ability, avoiding evil and not following evils of the flesh or giving into temptation is evidence of a cult, then all churches should be called cults because I thought that is what Jesus commanded us to do. live the gospel, repent and never do that sin again, pray always and live in harmony with Him.
---ashley on 5/27/07

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you can find out all the information regarding mormon beliefs on The internet.I have looked up Jehovah Witness info there among other beliefs.Just type Mormon beliefs to your search engine.
---Rosetta on 5/26/07

So tell. Which things said on here are wrong?
---Randy on 1/1/07

Mormon theology is contrary to the Bible. It teaches that God was once a man (Adam), and through a process of good deeds became God. Mormons believe that God has a god over Him and so on..
They also teach that Jesus was conceived in the same way that we are conceived, through natural sexual union between man (Adam) and woman (Mary).
Brigham Young said that Jesus was conceived when Adam, who became our God through good works, had sexual relations with Mary.
---Kay on 1/1/07

I have been to fundamentalist book stores, and in their cULT section all beliefs other than their own they call CULTS. There is something narcisstic about that, an extreme form of smug self-rightuousness passing itself off as being holy. Yo want to find out what a rligion believes, say a buddhist, Baptist, or shinto, go to a member of that religion!! You should use your brains!
---MikeM on 1/1/07

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Go to a christian bookstore and look for a book on is in the CULT section.
---robert on 1/1/07

I can't believe the amount of false information being written here.There is almost not one word of truth in all the posts on this subject.For goodness sake if you want to find out what mormons believe, ASK THEM. see the official websites of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints to see what we really believe.
---michael on 12/31/06

This is a cult religion. Read the pamplit "Christianity, Cults, & Religions" by Rose Publications.
---Leslie on 12/31/06

Peter; you wrote on 1/2/06
They have this blurb that concerns me....
After all that Jesus went through; endured the cross; paid for our sins for us; proclaimed "It is finished"... The sub-title of the book that they revere above God's word the Bible concerns me...
Another Testament of Jesus Christ
How could there possibly be "Another Testament?
---Andy on 9/8/06

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Yes you are in the Family of Jesus thank God you are no longer following a false prophet. My heart goes out to all those that have left that cult and the ones that are trying to leave and now have lost their families and friends. But at the same time it is a blessing that their understanding was opened up and they followed the leading of the Holy Spirit. You know there are a lot of people that stay in cults that are called out by the Holy Spirit and they refuse to leave.
---Andy on 9/1/06

They have this blurb that concerns me....

"We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God. " (Mormon Statement of Faith, Article #8).
---Peter on 1/2/06

Correct me if I am wrong, but I heard that there are 22 distinct Mormon groups in the US. And some of them still practice polygamy and have run-ins with the government. Interesting that some of these groups are petitioning the government to legalize polygamy using many of the same arguments as the same-sex marriage crowd.
---lee on 1/2/06

**Disclaimer: This is not from the Bible but from the Mormon doctrine, so it is false. Their belief in Universal Resurrection states that "the unbeliever, the heathen and the child who dies before reaching the years of discretion" will all be brought back to life. (Articles of Faith, Page 85)
---Paul on 1/2/06

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Brigham Young preached that Jesus blood wasn't sufficient for all sins..that man had to shed his own blood.
Ex-sermon on September 21, 1856 (Sermon by Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, pages 53-54; also published in the Mormon Church's Desert News, 1856, page 235). Another sermon delivered in the Mormon Tabernacle, February 8, 1857 printed in the Desert News, February 18, 1857; also reprinted in the Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, pages 219-220)
---wes on 1/2/06

Nellah, I haven't heard about such gold. Attracted to the name I attended their Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints college, but they idolized Adam that he was like God without a belly-button, and Joseph Smith was chosen to spread ANOTHER gospel, other than Jesus, and they used another book called Pearl of Great Price instead of the Bible, so i knew it was wrong. I quit the class and asked the receptionist for my money back telling her that they should stick with the Bible and not some other book.
---Eloy on 1/2/06

Joseph Smith says he was given gold tablets from the angel Moroni, no one else ever saw them. He claimed these to be truthful things that were not in the bible, hence starting the LDS. The 2 Mormon guys that came to my home recently said that one of their beliefs was that Jesus came to the USA and brought people with Him to 'plant' the LDS church.
---NVBarbara on 1/2/06

Mormonism is false, and built upon questionable testimonies as to its truth.

Since I live in New York, I amazed at the total lack of archeological excavations surrounding Hill Cummorah in Palymira. No one has found 100,000 bodies under it, nor any other artifact supporting the possiblilty of finding gold tablets there.

Reformed Egyptian is a language similar to Klingon: a non-existant fantasy.
---John on 1/2/06

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& in the letter the bishop sent he stated that he was sorry I was leaving the family of Jesus Christ. I was thinking "Well if you actually taught the bible then I would have stayed, but I am in the family of Jesus already, not based on being a 'member' of a church"
---candice on 1/2/06

The LDS church does not practice the bible as they claim too. then again I only went to the "doctrine prinicipals "class to learn after main service.I got out ,but finally mailed a letter to take my name off the roll completly, not just be "inactive"
---candice on 1/2/06

Eloy, was gold what the angel gave to Joseph Smith ... he and his father presumably took the gold and told the followers that God had taken the gold to heaven.
---Nellah on 10/16/05

Yes, I stated the name change in a previous post. And yes, they are making an attempt to be more acceptable. I see the name change as a deception and I'm sure Satan is pleased by this. The RLDS/COC does differ in many ways from the LDS/Mormons but they are both cults and I pray that somehow I will be able to "get through" to my family, friends, & others who are still a part of it.
---Marilee on 9/18/05

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RLDS changed their church name a few years ago to "Community of Christ" to distance themselves from the LDS group. They still use the Book or Mormon and Doctrine of Covenants though. Seems like they are going the way of a lot of churches - disguising their true beliefs by using an acceptable name.
---Sally on 9/18/05

Yes, you're absolutely correct. RLDS & LDS are definately cults. I was wrong when I said, "religion." Thank you for pointing that out.
---Marilee on 9/17/05

You're right about the personal cost to get "out." Some family members have told me how shocked they are that I am spreading "lies" about Joseph Smith. But most of my family treats me like I'm a religous nut, going through a phase, or just trying to get attention. They like the change in me now that I'm no longer religious but rather now have a personal relationship with Jesus - but they still think I'm crazy - especially when I had my name permanently removed from the RLDS membership.
---Marilee on 9/17/05

I got out of the RLDS religion a little more than 4 years ago because an online friend shared the truth with me in a very concerned way and encouraged me to pray & search for the truth. I believe this was God answering desperate prayers I had prayed previous to meeting this friend.

Moderator - Please search the history of the RLDS and I am sure that you will quickly conclude they are a cult. I love the people dearly because most have good morals and can relate to them, however their belief system isn't Christian.
---Marilee on 9/17/05

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Joseph Smith said that he had a visit from an angel who told him that all religions on their earth at that time were wrong. And that God wanted Smith to "restore" the Church of Christ of the Bible to the world. Remember that Satan's demons can come as "angels of light" and can deceive anyone who is not standing strong in the Lord.
---Sally on 9/17/05

As a former Mormon, I can say that Mormons believe in hell. They also believe there are three levels in Heaven. Although they do have strong family programs, it is their belief that the wife and children get to the higher level of Heaven through the husband. Don't visit their church. Find out what they believe online.
---Sally on 9/17/05

To address your specific comment, they believe in 3 levels of heaven and no hell. They believe only Mormons in "good standing" will get to the top level of heaven and everyone else must work their way up. When they reach the top level of heaven and do well there they believe they will someday be a god as well. They believe that God was once a human man who achieved "godhood." There are many, many more absurd beliefs... please, please do your research with an open mind.
---Marilee on 9/16/05

If members of those churches would really search for the truth with an open mind they would see how absurd it is to believe what they are teaching in those churches!
---Marilee on 9/16/05

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I still have many family members who will not waver in their false beliefs and I pray for them to get out. I am VERY thankful that I sought the truth and God opened my heart, eyes, and mind. I am now a true Christian and it amazes me that for over 38 years I accepted the RLDS teachings simply because that's what I was born into and raised in.
---Marilee on 9/16/05

I was born a 5th generation RLDS. Joseph Smith started the "church" now known as For one, they all believe Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God, but through my research & God's direction I have come to believe that the "angel Moroni" was really Lucifer (who can appear as an angel of light) or one of the fallen angels who followed him to hell. And Joseph Smith was a false prophet.
---Marilee on 9/16/05

I was born a 5th generation RLDS. Joseph Smith started the "church" now known as Mormon (LDS) and RLDS (Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints - or "Community of Christ" as they now call themselves.) I have done a lot of research on both churches and neither one is a Christian church. Neither one accepts the Bible as God's only word and both have many false beliefs!

Moderator - How did you get out? I know that it must have come at a great cost of family?
---Marilee on 9/16/05

Their religion is not christianity. Their founder was a man named Joseph Smith. They maintain that while Jesus was on one side of earth preaching the gospel, Joseph Smith was on the otherside of earth preaching what an angel called Moroni gave to him. i found that they idolize Adam emphasizing that he was the only man never to have a belly-button; they serve water for the holy communion wine, and they emphasize being "sealed" by their organization to be saved.
---Eloy on 9/16/05

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Abby, so far these responses are well-intentioned but off the mark. The LDS Church has a very good website, but we're not supposed to put web addresses in here so you'll have to figure out that LDS is an organization and go from there. Or just look up the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in your phone book (Sunday is the best time to find someone there since there's no full-time clergy) and ask your questions. Good luck.
---Rod on 9/16/05

I believe you will find the Jehovah Witness's preach no "hell". The Mormans ie.
Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints, have wonderful programs for family, honor of country, ministry, and outreach. Unfortunately one small problem, they use The Book of Mormon and The Pearl of Great Price with the Bible. Their doctrine is outside basic Christian belief. Are they all lost? Not for me to say. God has a plan for us all.
---mike_fl on 9/14/05

My father's brother (my uncle) is a Mormon, so there were many heated discussions in our home regarding this cult and their false teachings. One was to "weed out" false teachings is to ask, "Was Jesus God?" Unbelievers will dance all around the question and do all they can to NOT give a definitive yes/no answer. This is a BIG, HUGE red flag. True Christians will always answer with a resounding "YES!"
---Crystal on 9/14/05

That there are 3 degrees of heaven:
1. the celestial-- for faithful Mormons
2. the terrestrial for not so faithful Mormons
3. the telestrak-- for those who will be servants of the other two groups.
---Pierr7958 on 9/14/05

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That God was pleased when Adam and Eve sinned because the earth would now be populated.
That there are immortal souls now living in the Spirit world with Jesus preaching the gospel to them.
That they must hold baptisme services for the dead in their temples.
That Jesus was married to Mary, Martha and the other Mary at the wedding feast at Cana. Hence they favor polygamy where the law of the land permits it. Marriages are for time/eternity in Mormon temples. TBC
---Pierr7958 on 9/14/05

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