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It breaks my heart to see so many young people these days with numerous body piercings and tattoos. Is there anything we can do other than pray for them?

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I think you missed Bruce5656's point.

Yes, the old testament forbids tattoos and piercings. But it also forbids all of the things he mentioned (things Christians no longer worry about).

If we're going to obey old testament teachings about tattoos (because it's in the Bible) we must also, for the same reason, obey the commands about shaving, eating pork, blending fabrics, lighting fires on the sabbath, etc.

You can't claim you're free of one but bound by the other.
---StrongAxe on 3/20/08

Would you wear clothing made of a blend of fabrics? v. 19
Would you cross breed cattle? v.19
Do you advocate scourging for adultery? V. 20 (Better re-read John 8 before you answer that one.)
Do you cut the hair on the sides of your head? or trim your beard (if you had one)?v.27
Would you light a fire on the Sabbath? Ex 35:3

Moderator - This is the tattoo blog. Please open another blog if you have different questions so we may all stay on the topic of discussion. Thanks.
---Bruce5656 on 3/20/08

Katie: "...long as it is appropriate and fits your personality."

You just hit the target - it's all about you, not God. It shows where your heart really is. Does the tatoo glorify you or God? Tatoos are only seen by man. When God commanded not to scribe your body, what do you think it means? It's written in black and white, how could you interprete that any other way?
---Steveng on 8/8/07

It doesn't make me any less of a Christian to get a tattoo. I don't think it matters, as long as it is appropriate and fits your personality. Yes, I agree some people go overboard, but there are others that have tattoos that outwardly show their faith.
---Katie on 8/8/07

consider the mark on Cain's forehead. Tatoos are always associated with scrupulous people, bikers, pirates, and the like. They were also associated with slavery. Having a tatoo is wrong, but if you got a tatoo before you became Christian is another story and people should not judge. Getting a tatoo after becoming a Christian is disobeying God: read Leviticus 19:28
---Steveng on 8/7/07

Are you kidding me? Shame on you. There are people dying, lost, and getting more lost by the second, and you're worried about petty tattoos?! Romans 8 says it best. Love is better than knowledge. What one may do with a clear conscience that it isn't sin, another may not, such as eating meat sacrificed to idols. I believe tattoos fall under that category. We should be more concerned about people's souls, not their bodies. Love them for who they are, not condemn them for the way they look.
---Alissa on 8/7/07

Yes...I do feel sad for this generation who feels they have to tattoo. Prayers is the best thing we can offer for this horrible fad. Perhaps,soon,these wicked tattoo artist will use their lug heads for something more than evil. They will come up with removable tattos that comes off with water,oil or some other material. The tattoos could last a few weeks or months and then you have the option to easily remove it. Maybe. Just a thought. My son(26) has tattoos. I don't like it.
---Robyn on 8/4/07

Well i dont see a problem with tatoos or peircings as long as its not a tatoo of somthing bad. Peircing in places other than ears aren't any different.
---Daniel on 8/3/07

As for tatoos the BIble doesn't say they're wrong. For example Leviticus 19:28 its talking about people getting tatoos of the dead to appease pagan gods and theres Revelation 19:16 "On his robe and on his thigh he has a name inscribed, King of kings and Lord of lords." it may noy necesarily a tatoo but he does have "King of kings and Lord of lords" marked on his body. and as far as I see its princaply no diferent than a tatoo.
---Daniel on 8/3/07

here's an idea! Why not rally around to put an end to all crazed, concert picketing, snap judgment making, perfect people making all of us normal people miserable. bible says, judge not, lest ye be judged, also says worry not about the speck in your brother's eye, when you have a log in your own. and, if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, If all us tattooed people are going to hell, (lower case, it's stupid to believe that such a place exists beyond this earth) that's not your problem is it?
---Steve on 7/10/07

No tatoos for you. Read this blog for all considering another tatoo.
---Davis on 3/21/07

ceremonial vs. moral laws
---r.w. on 7/25/06

Jana, In Leviticus 19, God was speaking directly to the "children of Israel." Leviticus 19:19 says Im not to allow a garment "mingled of linen and wooLlen come upon thee." So, do you wear cloths of mixed cloth? Leviticus also says I can own slaves, sell my daugther, and stone my neighbor for working on the sabbath.

You cannot pick and choose which verse you want to follow.
---NurseRobert on 7/14/06

Donna, Thanks. I was think that too. Please stop arguing folks. We cannot convince, only the Holy Spirit can - either way - whether you believe tatoos are okay or if your stand is that they are not. I believe this comes under Titus 3:9, a vein contention, and we aren't to enter into it. When finger pointing starts in the body, we lose all credibility with the unbeliever.
---daphn8897 on 7/14/06

nurserobert, read Leviticus 19:28 no marks must be made on your body...remember, your body is the temple of the tattooing it your defiling it too ... it is created of God and we dont own it .. Verse 30, says Reverence my sanctuary...thats your body and the church ..
---jana on 7/14/06

Tattoos are just another sign of the times as people display an open disregard and rebellion towards the word of God. Overlooking sin as "art" emboldens many to put the markings of their god upon them and manifest their true love. They have the freedom to be deceived if that's what they love more than presenting their body a living sacrifice that is holy and acceptable to God. Many are in the valley of decision and have choices to make.
---Frank on 7/9/06

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I have a beautiful 26 year old grand daughter
she has tatoo's all over her body we went to the beach and she had her bathing suit on and she has really messed her back up that was a nasty sight to see all we can do is pray for them
---Betty2 on 7/8/06

** it want bother you what someone else do with there body.**

Actually, Chalie, according to the Bible we do NOT own our bodies.

However, remember the earrings (or in some translation, nosering) given to Rebecca for an engagement present by the matchmaker?

We shouldn't confuse mere social and cultural norms (or taboos) with Christianity, but the idea that "it's their own body" is totally false, too.
---Jack on 7/8/06

No! you can not stop this. Tattoo is an art I think as soon as you guys realize that there is no harm the sooner it want bother you what someone else do with there body. Our real problem in this world is we are to sensitive about everything it's messing up our everyday living as a free sociaty. GET OVER IT TATTOOS ARE HERE TO STAY.
---Chalie on 7/8/06

Nan, "other than pray for them?" Intercessory prayer is the MOST POWERFUL tool we have as Christians. It's the HOLY SPIRIT that brings the conviction, not us. We pray, He convicts.

As for any of you trying to convince anyone else something is wrong, give it up. Haven't you learned by now that people will do what they want to do UNLESS they let the Holy Spirit convict them it's wrong? We cannot convict others, the HS does that, so give it up. Stop arguing!!!!
---Donna9759 on 7/7/06

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Nan, All we can Do is PRAY, that they will ACCEPT CHRIST they are in DARKNESS!!! !Corinthians 6:11 STATES: And such were some of you (Paul, Speaking of the Body of Christ as a WHOLE) but ye are Washed, but ye are Santified, but ye are Justified in the name of the LORD JESUS, and the Spirit of our GOD!
---Renatta on 7/7/06

In a certain way, God has His body tattooed with the names of believers:

Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me. King James Version. (Is 49:16).
---John_T on 7/7/06

Emcee, you are assuming facts not in evidence.

Who determined it was a defilement? You?
---NurseRobert on 7/6/06

John ::What has been done wrong for eons does not make it right today;although it has turned into a habit or general practice.I suppose by ther same token same sex marriage is also acceptable.NO NO NO.The only context I offer is that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit If you want it to be the residence of the HS; it must be treated accordingly, Now that you know.
---Emcee on 7/6/06

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N/Robert:: A fact is NOT an assumption.If you are comparing the colour of your House in pink to that with the Holy spirit would that be a good Comparison.It's amatter of opinion & choice.
---Emcee on 7/6/06

Emcee, you are making an assumption that tattoos are a defilement or desecration. That is in the eyes of the beholder. If my neighbor paints his house flaming hot pink, I would consider it a desecration.. he may think its wonderful.

Its whats in the inside that God looks at, not the outside.
---NurseRobert on 7/6/06

emcee. You call it defacing and graffiti but those that have it call it painting and decorating. People wear makeup too. There's no difference other than one is permanent and the other needs daily care. If tatooes or pierced ears are against God then so would be surgery, acupuncture, and makeup. I'd like to see some Scripture not taken out of context that would show it sinful.
---john on 7/6/06

The body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, christians claim they are filled with.We are created in the image & likeness of God.We have to return this body & soul to our maker in the way it was bestowed.It is WRONG to deface the sacred temple -would you approve of graffetti on your place of worship?Sorry the Bible says the body is the temple MODERATOR is steadfast in this stance all along.AS parents we set the example.Satan made this a fad & many have fallen Foul of this simple yet dangerous practice.
---Emcee on 7/5/06

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No Christmas trees or evergreens? Would you prefer to decorate with dead branches and dried up fallen leaves?

How about in the southern hemisphere when Christmas falls just at the beginning of summer?
---Jack on 7/5/06

Sue: Some pagan cultures would make cuts on their arms or faces, spilling their blood in a sacrifice (for lack of a better word) for the departed.

Pre-Christian Hawaiians would knock out one of their teeth or put out an eye--or both--as a mourning custom. This is well documented, and occurs in the novel and movie HAWAII.
---Jack on 7/5/06

I was wondering what this means: You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead. I mean, the part "for the dead" what is cutting for the dead mean?
---sue on 7/5/06

I think you are the one who needs the prayer. You have judged those people according to the law as committing a sin. Do you keep all those laws? I find them to be more Godly than you because they haven't judged you. The Gentiles were never given those laws. You can even shave your beard now and not be sinning.
---john on 7/5/06

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Moderator, have you taken a survey of "main Christian leaders" to find out if they have tattoos or not?

People get tattoos today for many reasons. I don't have a tattoo, but I have considered one in the past. Ultimately, the decision had to do with being an 90 year old nursing home resdient with a faded, stretched "design", not whether its pagan or not.

Moderator - Now you may have some additional considerations from paganism.
---NurseRobert on 7/5/06

Moderator, Nurse Robert asked if we should celebrate Christmas and Easter. He didn't ask if we should celebrate Santa Clause and the Easter bunny so why did you answer the way you did? I and my family celebrate both but you will not see a santa or bunny anywhere on the cards we send. We receive some but they are not displayed. Do we take it that you do not celebrate the birth and resurrection of Jesus in any way whatsoever?

Moderator - I celebrate Christ and His resurrection. The other aspects of those two holidays have their roots in paganism not Christianity. No Santa Clause, Christmas trees, Easter Bunny, Easter eggs, etc.
---M.P. on 7/5/06

Just as Christmas and Easter had pagan beginnings so I believe it is with Tattoos. It may have been at one time, but I do not believe it is the case now.

Moderator - Have you ever seen any of the main Christian leaders getting tattoos? No, because it is widely know as being pagan.
---NurseRobert on 7/4/06

Moderator, I didn't say anything about Santa Claus or the Easter bunny. Both have pagan roots, dating back thousands of years. Yet, we celebrate what WE perceive to be the meaning.. the birth and resurrection of Jesus. Meanings change over time. Tattoos are a fad and an expression of ones self.

Moderator - It's an expression of rebellion and paganism, not Christianity.
---NurseRobert on 7/4/06

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yes it does. Yahuweh's people not to associate any pagan festival with worship of him!! He expressly forbids it! He says no!! that does not mean that we get to argue!! we love him! therefore we obey him! yes? then obey him!! there are actually 8 well known pagan festivals!! "christos-ianity" has adopted all of them!! Yahuweh has seven of his own. none are adopted by "christos-ianity! why not!! funny that! we are supposed to love the truth Haa!!
---dave on 7/3/06

Oh, and Moderator, Christmas and Easter are associated with paganism. Does this mean we should not celebrate these either?

Moderator - No, I don't celebrate Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny in my household. That is pagan.
---NurseRobert on 7/3/06

Moderator, Part III: I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? Ok.. the point I'm making is that either we follow ALL of the law or understand that we are no longer under the law. I see nothing wrong with tattoos, though my wife would divorce me if I got one!

Moderator - It's a pagan practice. Why would you want to follow pagans for your spiritual guidance?
---NurseRobert on 7/3/06

Moderator, Part II: A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

Moderator - What scriptures state anywhere in the Bible to mark up your body? None.
---NurseRobert on 7/3/06

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Moderator, through out a lot of these threads (blogs)people say we are no longer under the old laws. You now, quote Leviticus as a reason not to tattoo.. Ok if thats the case, then: Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

Moderator - We are suppose to glorify God with our Body. That is a Bible concept New or Old Testament. You may be over analyzing things if you believe putting markings on your body glorifies God.
---NurseRobert on 7/3/06

Lev 19:28 says to not cut your flesh or to put any marks upon you. was God just kidding here? He said DONT DO IT
---r.w. on 7/3/06

Hey moderator, do you have a beard? Because if not then you are breaking the moral law of God just as much as people with tattoo's. And if you are married, does your wife where jewelry to church? Because in 1 Timothy 2:9 it says that a woman is not permitted to wear gold or pearls or wear her hair in braids.

Moderator - Tattoos are associated with paganism not Christianity. Study the history of tattoos and then determine if that is what a Christian should do.
---Daniel on 5/25/06

When Lev. 19:28 was written it was written because people would tattoo themselves of evil spirits. The bible mentions twice that a master would pierce his slave if he did not want to leave his master after 6 or 7 years. Also in Leviticus when it mentions tattooing it mentions shaving the side of your head is unpleasing to God and Disfiguring of a person beard is wrong. Sometimes it is easier to point the finger at one point of scripture and not see where and when it can from and how and who it was for.

Moderator - So bottomline don't tattoo if you are a Christian.
---Cassandra on 2/28/06

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What happend to meeting people where they are and loving them to where Christ wants them to be? I am new at this blog thing, but seems to me this has been a very judgemental issue for some. We are the body of Christ, we should be building each other up, not judging them. If we didnt have Christians with tats, we would not have acceptance from those with them that need to be witnessed to. People are comfortable with others that look like them. God Bless ^i^
---Robin on 11/3/05

I am a Christian, born again, spirit filled. I have one tattoo. The Bible says men look at our outward apperence, but God looks at our heart. What is wrong with having Jesus' name tattood on your arm? If a guy can tattoo his girlfriend's name on him, then, hey. I also have my right eyebrow pierced. God still uses me, and I still operate in tongues and the prophetic.

Moderator - To deface your body with a tattoo shows your heart. I would focus more on Bible reading and less on the tongues and prophetic if that was the end result of speaking in tongues and prophetic.
---Sly on 10/15/05

Mod .. it still puzzles me how the Jews suddenly became pagan. Did they stop worshipping the God of Abraham and start following Nimrod? & there were of course times in the OT that they did not have a temple ... did they then become pagan until the temple was rebuilt?

Moderator - They have stopped following most the Old Testament today and in addition the currrent Jews missed the most important - Jesus Christ the Messiah. I believe in most cases in the OT when they were turning pagan that is when God would have an enemy overtake them in attempt to turn their hearts back to God.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/15/05

I am asking Mod about the Jew who behaves and believes as his scriptures command. He is not a Christian, but I do not see he can be called pagan.

Moderator - No Jews today can practice what is within the Old Testament. For starters, they don't have a Temple to perform the blood sacrifies to cover their sins. Jews today can be moral people, however being moral isn't a ticket to enter heaven.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/15/05

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Ok, this one is done for me too, cause I think if I hear my art called pagan one more time I will lose it. This will always be a "hot" topic and there is no difinitive end. My walk is no different with or without my art, and I will not continue to entertain that I have put ONE STITCH of paganism on my body. There are more important things and people of this world to be praying for than to be hung up in this tangle.

Moderator - Whether you believe a tattoo is a pagan practice is a moot point because it is a pagan practice and Christians have NEVER taken tattoos as a practice. Nothing Godly is associated with a tattoos; only paganism.
---Kari on 10/14/05

Mod ... how would you classify Jews? I do no see them as pagan ... they worship the same God, although not completely.

Moderator - Even by Jewish standards of the Old Testament most Jews would be considered pagan.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/14/05

Mod ... I think here we all need your guidance of what the word "pagan" means. I thought that it meant worshipping gods other than that of the Jews and Christians. But my dictionary indicates non-Christian ... so Jews would be pagans (I know we would not say that here) I would not have previously classed an athiest as a pagan, because he accepts no god at all. What is your view?

Moderator - Yes, non-christians are pagans. Big picture either we are for Christ or we are for the anti-christ and there is nothing inbetween. Either we are heaven bound or we are hell bound with nothing inbetween. That is why I am concerned when I see pagan practices within Christianity.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/14/05

So, Kaleo, people of the Jewish faith, God;s "chosen people" are pagans?
---Ann5758 on 10/14/05

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Kari--When we say Pagan we mean not Christian
---Kaleo on 10/14/05

The early Britons used it in ceremonies, The Danes, Norse, and Saxons tattooed family crests, still practiced today. and the perrson I was refering was named POPE Hadrian in 787 AD. It still thrived in Britain until the Norman invasion of 1066. So am I to understand that all Indian, all tribes, all Incans, all japanese, all chinese they were all pagan?? WHAT?? I think not. And I never said they were Christian tribes. Life does exist outside of Christanity.. does not make it rooted in evil.

Moderator - Either one is a Christian or they are not.
---Kari on 10/14/05

Polynesians developed tattoos to mark tribal communities, they brought it to New Zealand where the Mayan, Incas, and Aztecs used facial "moko" markings. Not until 787 AD was it banned by a Pope in Britian. There are pages of history, not one place has research stated it was a pagan exclusive ritual, nor got its start from the pagans.

Moderator - There was never a Pope in Britian. Go to your Bible to locate the beginning source and it was from Nimrod who was a form of anti-christ whom was pagan. The tribal communities you just listed were all pagan not Christian.
---Kari on 10/13/05

Crete, Greece, Persia, and Arabia picked up and expanded the art form, they were not pagan. 2000 BC it spread to China. The Greeks used it to communicate when they could not use words, Romans used it to mark slaves and criminals, Ainu people used it to show social status and married women. The Ainu introduced it to Japan where it became a religious rite. Kayan women had delicate lace arm tattoos to mark family belonging, not pagan in anyway. PT3

Moderator - Those are all pagan examples; those were not Christian cultures.
---Kari on 10/13/05

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Tattooing goes beyond 12,000 BC. Arguably people are divided. Note here, tatts have cultural backgrounds, not just cultists. Borneo women tattooed their trade symbols on their forearms to indicate a skill, thus increasing their status. Tatts around the wrist was believed to be healing, one small part of history was for belonging to specific groups or clans, not the whole history, In early Egypt during the time of the great pryamids, there was tattooing for the purpose of expanding their empires.. part 2
---Kari on 10/13/05

Tatoos can easily be lazered off if you have one and would like it removed.
---NVBarbara on 10/13/05

Moderater--you are right in saying that Tatoos began as a pagan ritual. It is also my understanding that in the time that Lev. was written the only reason that an Isrealite would have gotten a tatoo would have been if he was practicing Paganism. tatoos at the time were STRICTLY pagan. Today there are many reasons for getting a tatoo and very few of them involve pagan rituals. The paganism in tatoos are mostly forgotten.

Moderator - I agree that some people today may not be consciously practicing a pagan ritual, however the practice is still pagan. We are made in the image of God and Satan loves more than anything to degrade, deface and curse that image. As children of a Holy God, I suggest that Christians should be in the world, but not of the world. Please consider talking to your pastor before making any decisions.
---Kaleo on 10/12/05

That conviction comes from the Holy Ghost, not from man or the law, and I am responsible as a leader for yielding my members to that conviction. That is simply flowing out of my relationship with Father...something I want to do not something I have to do. We should all desire to grow in excellence and that means we yield to those promptings of the Holy Ghost as He matures us.
---Linda_Smith on 10/12/05

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At least the desire was there to begin with otherwise he would not do it. We still have the choice to yield our members. My personal conviction on tattoos....I have one but wouldn't get another one nor would I encourage anyone else to get one. Beyond that, my personal conviction is to keep it covered when "out and about".
---Linda_Smith on 10/12/05

Okay, this blog is headed into chaos with all the debate about it. Yes, man was made in God's image. Yes, it is said in the Bible that our body is a temple, and, yes, tattoos/excessive piercings mutilate that. But we're not talking about an unforgivable sin here. One person's already talking about taking an extreme measure (whether it's true or done for shock value is irrelevant) and all the "Christian" debate about this issue is responsible for it. Everyone needs to stop and consider that.
---Heather on 10/12/05

Once again I try to say, in the biblical reference Where to find it in the Bible A to Z. The only reference for tattooing is Isaiah 44:5. This is a respected book for people of all ages to facillitate study. There is too many interpretations of this verse to say that it is not refering to tattooing.
---Kari on 10/11/05

The freeing of slaves at Jubilee was surely a Jewish practice?
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/11/05

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Moderater, please use Romans 1 in its context. Paul is showing man's utter failure in Adam...right before he talks to them about those who judge in chapter 2. Chapter 3:19 tells us who the law is talking to and the result of what it says. Thank God for what Jesus did.
---Linda_Smith on 10/11/05

"Moderator - Everyone that has been debating me on these issues please congratulate Kaleo. Kaleo is considering following a well known and documented pagan practice. Kaleo we aren't to deface our body which is made in the image of God in any way. Please consider seeing your pastor before making any decisions." He made his decision based on a Scripture out of the Bible and shared that with us.

Moderator - Please meditate on: Romans 1:32 "Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."
---Linda_Smith on 10/11/05

If you want to talk about pagan rituals talk about the Christmas tree. It was started by pagans. It is a well documented pagan ritual. And yet as CHRISTIANS we still have christmas trees in our homes. The point is not the pagan origins of the peircing it is the meaning of the peircing. I am a bond servant of Jesus Christ my Lord and proud of it.

Moderator - You are correct the Christmas tree is a pagan ritual and as such my family doesn't get a Christmas tree. Kaleo, we are in the world, but not of the world. Christians shouldn't do anything that is pagan because that is the opposite of loving God.
---Kaleo on 10/11/05

In the past when the year of Jubilee came around a slave was set free. He could choose to remain in the service of his master willingly. If this happened you were to peirce the cartlige in his ear to signifiy he was a willing bondservant. I am planning on getting that peircing to use as a witnessing tool and to signify that I am a willing slave to my Christ who died on a tree to save me . I am not saying that i encourage exessive tattooing but i do belive that if done for the right reasons it is ok.

Moderator - Everyone that has been debating me on these issues please congratulate Kaleo. Kaleo is considering following a well known and documented pagan practice. Kaleo we aren't to deface our body which is made in the image of God in any way. Please consider seeing your pastor before making any decisions.
---Kaleo on 10/11/05

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I don't know which verse Bruce refers to but Deut. 22:11 states that garments must not be made from a mixture of wool and linen. This is common sense because wool shrinks and linen does not. I don't know of any other similar verse that forbids the mixing of fabrics and these days most fabrics don't shrink and many are now man-made and were not heard of in the period under discussion.
---M.P. on 10/11/05

Jesus came to complete the law. Before Jesus the sacrifices, ritualals and, law was what was followed. With Jesus sacrifice we are no longer bound to the law. That is not to say that we have the freedom to do anything we wish (Everything is permissible not everything is benificial) but at the same time we are not supposed to be legalistic.

Moderator - The Moral Laws of God never change. The ceremonial and civil laws are what changed.
---Kaleo on 10/11/05

Fine, please refer to the Should We Obey the Whole Bible blog.
---Bruce5656 on 10/11/05

Moderator,I am sorry, I must have clicked the wrong button. I meant that as a new question not a response about tatoos. I will re post it now.

Moderator - Okay :)
---M.A. on 10/11/05

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So, as long as we DRAW or DECAL the pictures on ourselves and not cut, then it's okay? That doesn't wash simply because I have seen pagans DRAW on themselves to celebrate their pagan "religion". It is still a matter of the heart. One is either in Adam or in Christ, not both.

Moderator - A draw or decal isn't a tattoo. A pagan draw or decal would be wrong also, but based upon different scriptures.
---Linda_Smith on 10/11/05

The bottom line is that the law as written by Moses disqualifies man while Christ qualifies him. Written by Moses, it was broken. Written by God, it was placed in the ark (Jesus is the ark of God) and fulfilled. If just one sees that He who is qualified to condemn justifies even the ungodly, then I believe we could move on from here.
---Linda_Smith on 10/11/05

What is being found confusing to some is what do you do with these other aspects of that same Law that were written at the same time and by the same hand. The confusion (well, I'm not confused) is found in saying that we must keep this one specific aspect without dealing with those other aspects.
---Linda_Smith on 10/11/05

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