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Catholic Church Says I Am In Sin

My name is Declan and I live in Ireland. Last year I got married to a girl from the Russian orthodox church and in the orthodox church. Since then I have been abondoned by the catholic church. They won't let me receive communion or go to confession. They say I am living in sin. Please help.

Moderator - Are they saying this because you married a Christian? If so, they are wrong or is there more to the story? Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?

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Declan: I find that strange - I thought the Catholic Church accepted the Orthodox Church! In your situation, I'd just move to the Orthodox Church (there will be one unless you're in a small town)
---Peter on 11/2/11

You may have to change your church except the Lord is leading you to stay, then HE will support you thro' all the persecutions.
---Adetunji on 11/1/11

It does not matter what idolaters say. Find a good Christian church, partake of real communion, and be blessed.
---Eloy on 10/31/11

Cluny, here is the passage,

"The word is near you, in your mouth and in your hear" ( that is, the word of faith that we proclaim), because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation" Rom 10:9,10).

So it is written Cluny, you just didn't read it.
---Mark_V. on 10/31/11

They sure can put a different kind of twist on stuff. My mother-n-law divorced my wifes dad as a young woman and got remarried years later in the Catholic Church. The RCC told her that since her first marriage wasnt in the RCC that it was void anyways and though they had 3 children it didnt count as a marriage or a divorce.
In His grip
---Poppa_Bear on 10/30/11

I was married once before in a really terrible and dead marriage.I got a divorce and an annulement. I am a devout Catholic, Who believes in God the almighty, the Blesssed Virgin Mary. I married a girl from the Republic of Georgia ( former Soviet Union )and we were married at the Holy Trinity Russian Orthodox Church, Baltimore,Md. We married legally before the eyes of God. My wife and I have been married happily for 17 years and have a 31 year old daughter, she is my Stepdaughter.My wife was married once before in Republic of Georgia and received a divorce. .Does the local priest have a right to tell me that my marriage is not legal according to the teachings of Jesus.
---Robert_Puzniak on 10/30/11

sort of ironic the rcc abandons its brainwashed subjects when they do not follow all of their rules and regulations (none of which are found in Holy Scripture)

YET their leaders can sexually abuse children and the rcc blames society and honors their leaders by moving them to different churches so they are not prosecuted by the law

the contradiction is obvious to those outside of this cult system

Declan it's time you begin reading Holy Word of God and seek The Father in Heaven in TRUTH and SPIRIT and bow down to HIM not a man made gentile church that dismisses the Biblical Christ for another Christ 2Corin 11:4
---Rhonda on 12/29/10

\\ there are only a few differences between orthodox and Catholic doctrine and they are mostly related to the supremacy of the Roman church, \\

Andly, you clearly don't know much about the Orthodox Church yourself if you say that.

**That is a very good thing that the catholic idolaters abandoned you, now you can gladly join a Christian church and partake of Christ rather than partake of idolatry.
---Eloy on 12/19/10**

Better idolatry than autolatry. At least the idolater worships something outside himself.
---Cluny on 12/29/10

Eloy obviously you do not know much about the orthodox church. there are only a few differences between orthodox and Catholic doctrine and they are mostly related to the supremacy of the Roman church, who says they are the first among equals (simplified) and the orthodox church who does not recognise the primacy of the roman Bishop -the pope- the orthodox church is a very splintered body with almost every bishopric proclaiming some peculiar doctrines differing in points and accents whilst the roman church is quite -not totally- monogamous in doctrine. but basically their almost the same.
---andy3996 on 12/28/10

Declan: I am especially surprised because the Orthodox Church does recongnise the Catholic Church as OK (because those two, as well as the Church of England, follow the Apostolic Succession, while the Protestand Churches do not). So it seems strange.

It may be better to find a [Catholic] leader (Bishop or something like that) to ask what the Catholic Church requires of marriage - I do not know
---Peter on 12/21/10

That is a very good thing that the catholic idolaters abandoned you, now you can gladly join a Christian church and partake of Christ rather than partake of idolatry.
---Eloy on 12/19/10

Declan, I think there is more to this story than you are telling.

It is customary in the USA for mixed Orthodox/Catholic weddings to be held in the Orthodox church. That way it satisfies the rules of BOTH churches.

I know, because I'm Orthodox.

In any case, it should be a relatively simple matter to get your canonical position straightened out with the Roman Catholic Church--or you could always become Orthodox yourself.

BTW--NOWHERE does the Bible say "accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior."
---Cluny on 12/18/10

Pay little mind to what "they say" and concern yourself only with what God says.

Always on is always on.

Religion was already here when Christ arrived. All denminations have their issues, and the RCC is a rote and pious denomination so give it no credence.
---larry on 12/15/10

Pay little mind to what "they say" and concern yourself only with what God says.

Read your bible and pray. After doing so, you'll discover that you aren't in sin, after all, and your marriage is valid before Him.
---AlwaysOn on 12/14/10

you should write a letter to the vatican, for the priest that refuses you is actuall violating the catholic church rules. RCC does recognise the ecclesiastic authority of the orthodox churches. since all can prove apostolic desendance from Peter, this is a local matter and as a member of the RCC you can alway call for a bishop to intervene. on the other hand i would like you to know that it is not church that saves but Christ. there are many catholic splinter groups who preach much better then the traditional RCC doctrine. who are as i would say closer to reality. on the other hand fault is found with you. you should have applied for an oecuemenic marriage happens often in Holland where a protestant and a caytholic toghether celebrate marriage
---andy3996 on 12/14/10

They shouldn't point fingers, because the trin rcc & the trin cc Are in sin their selves because of their idol worship.

For the trin rcc gave birth to the cc, luth, presby, bapt, cog, naz, episc, aog etc trin churches. For even those that worship the gods of islam, buddha, hindu etc will fall inline also.
---Lawrence on 12/7/10

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Declan-bless you brother.
Study the Word of God-Let God himself teach you by His Spirit. His love for you is so much greater.
He alone can judge you-not men.
1Cor 2 (all)
1John 2:26-27
26These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Praise God for His mercy and grace.
---char on 12/6/10

Declan, somebody near you has their head in a dark place. You were married in a Catholic Church, albeit one which is currently not in union with Rome. I am ordained in the Catholic church, but am not in union with Rome. Rome has decreed that the Bishops who ordained me are in valid apostolic lines of succession, therefore my ordination is valid but irregular. All that means is that I was not ordained by a Roman Catholic Bishop. The Orthodox church is just as catholic and valid as is the Church of Rome. Your priests seem to be operating in the DARK AGES, and are probably best left alone.
---Father_Paul on 12/4/10

The Man - made cc pointing their finger at you saying your in sin. They Are blind to the fact that they have 3 fingers pointing back at them & that makes them 3 times as much in sin their selves.
---Lawrence on 8/13/10

You are not living in sin merely because you married a noncatholic. NVBarbara, posting below, understands. Follow her personal advice.
---Eloy on 11/23/07

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Instead of every one getting Hot around the collar.Just apply the equation as 'unequally yoked'.The laws of God apply to all .He is Irish Catholic & I am sure knows what is admissable & what is NOT.Is there a Law saying that a man cannot marry twice to the same woman?Circumstances are different & no laws are broken But the law of God is being upheld.
---Emcee on 11/21/07

Declan ::I do not know the intracies of the Orthrodox church, except its a question of acknowledging the pope as the vicar of Christ.In other words you deny Gods Church Matt16:17-19. Ed's solution is the only way I agree, unless there are some other Hurdles of disagreement from your spouse.Gods rule must be accepted.Love in Christ.
---Emcee on 11/21/07

How can they say you are living in sin, you did get married? I believe that I would be incline to change denominations. To me this sounds as if they are judging you, which is setting themselves up as God. Therefore, these people are the sinners. Have you been bought by the Blood of Christ? If the answer is yes, my friend, then these people are in alot of trouble.
---catherine on 11/21/07

No man or church or organization can tell you wether you are saved or not. Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour? Repented of your sins? If the RCC church is refusing to give you communion because you married an orthodox girl then find a new church where you can participate.
---BeckyH on 11/21/07

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Declan, You could try appealing above your diocee. Also after you've been married a year you can have your marriage blessed by the Catholic Church. At least you can in the United States. Don't just take your priest's word for it. Sometimes they get caught up on their own red tape. I don't believe you are living in sin by being married outside the Catholic Church. But you are living outside the rules of the Catholic Church which should be relatively easy to fix.

---grace3869 on 5/1/07

Dear Declan
Why don't you get married in the Catholic Church as well. I am an Irish Catholic like you and my father married my mother who is a Protestant. There was no problem. And that was over 40 years when they were a lot stricter about things like that. Go to the highest authorities in Ireland to get a fix. I think they will ask you both to get married in a Catholic Church as well. Then you will be married in both Churches which is the normal thing to do in such cases. And no problem.
---Ed on 5/1/07

You people are not helping Declan by saying: leave the Church. It could just be that Declan has an uneducated priest who doesn't know his job properly. That is why he (Declan) needs to go to a senior bishop and discuss there. Stop confusing the guy.
---Ed on 5/1/07

Declan, what can I say? THEY are telling you that you're living in sin.. THEY don't approve your love... but what about Jesus? Do you think that he will ever feel that way?

If there is love, GOD will always be with you... no mater what people say.
---Mark on 4/30/07

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You said the catholic church will not let you receive communion. Do they accept your money when the collection plate is passed around. Perhaps you can spend your money on flowers for your wife each week. She deserves your love and support-not the catholic church.
---steven on 5/8/06

That's the deal in the RCC. If you don't marry in "THE church" they don't consider you married.
Leave it and don't turn back. Give your heart to Jesus and acknowledge HIM as your Lord and Savior.
Get close to God, HE knows your heart.God bless you and your wife, may you both always live for the Lord.
---NVBarbara on 11/9/05

Consider this- maybe GOD wants you to leave the RCC? You can find out by asking in prayer
---mima 11/9/2005
---mima on 11/9/05

Declan, we're never going to please everybody all the time (even in a church), it's just not possible. All you can do is pray about it and listen to what God is telling you. Ultimately you only need to keep two people happy with you. You want to keep your wife pleased with you but, most importantly, see that God is pleased with you and don't worry about anyone else.
---Heather on 10/4/05

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Our faith walk as a christian living person is in Christ, our obedience that brings forth blessings is a promise from God, not a man made church. Marriage is a union of two people, who confess their love in a public ceremony, live faithfully to each other, and God is the centre cord of your union. You dont need a building or permission from a 'Priest' to have Communion, Jesus said 'do this (breaking of bread, taking of wine IN REMEMBERANCE of Me (Jesus), you are husband and wife, and beloved of God.
---bethany on 10/3/05

Declan, I too am from an Irish family (Protestant & Catholic), my faith is in Jesus Christ, not a man made church of any kind.

"You Priests who forbid people to marry ...eating of certain foods etc" scripture comes to mind, the Catholic heirachy will be in front of God in heaven for many pathetic 'church rules'

You are married, end of story, in God's eyes, you have obeyed Him by declaring your love in the Holy union of marriage, that God created, not a man made church.
---bethany on 10/3/05

Emcee ... I think what the moderator is saying is that he can only see your current contribution, not the previous entries in the blog.

This would explain why sometimes he/she does not appear to be aware of the previous arguments in the blog, and thus misunderstands what a contributor is saying because he cannot know the full context and what has been said previously.

Is the the case, Moderator?

Moderator - Absolutely which is why the moderator answer could be off at times. Thanks.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/2/05

Mod:It really amazes me that you would ask for a scripture.

Moderator - Emcee, I will not be able to post anymore of your responses unless you post the question that you are responding to because they don't make any sense nor allow for any further responses. Thanks.
---Emcee on 10/2/05

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Emcee ... I'm glad you say Christ is the shepherd.
That and the faith that He died for our sins is what unites the Roman Catholics and other Christians.
There is no point in arguing yet again about whether or not the Pope was delegated the task ... it has been discussed here so often without anyone changing their mind!
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/2/05

I believe the pope has no more power than any Christian. he is just a man. I used to be catholic and I will not be fooled any more. Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and man. Praise God, I am free in Christ!!!
---Peter on 10/1/05

Alan of UK :The Pope is Christs Vicar on this earth by succession.However Christ is the shepherd & delegated this responsibility. "Feed my lambs feed my sheep."

Moderator - Please show the scriptures.
---Emcee on 10/1/05

Thank you Emcee, but I suspect you mean "One flock ... the RCs, and one shepherd ... the Pope"

I would say "One flock ... the whole body of Christians worldwide, whatever their detail doctrinal beliefs and petty (for they are) disagrements & One Hsepherd ... God in the persons of Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit"
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/30/05

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Romans 8:2, we have been made free from the law of sin and death. I would start reading in the book of Romans, and see what Christ did for us. Besides 1 Timothy 2:5, tells us there is one God, and One mediator between God and men, The man Jesus Christ. Actually there is no mention about confessing anything to man.
---geraa7578 on 9/30/05

Alan of Uk: Thanks --enlightening & very commendable in the spirit of ecumanism.One flock one shepherd.
---Emcee on 9/30/05

The marriage would only be considered null and void by Roman Catholics and not even by all of them, otherwise Declan himself would not have married. Declan, you need a different church. Until you find one celebrate communion together as a couple - give it to each other in remembrance of what Christ did for you and confess your sins to the only one who can forgive you. You do not need a R.C. priest to do either of these things. I will pray that you will find true Christian fellowship soon.
---Paul on 9/30/05

Declan. Is it the catholic church? or just some parish priest I would take it to a Bishop for clarification.Priests dont have the authority to excommunicate.Your marriage may be null & void since it was not celebrated in a catholic church.You can still get married in a catholic church there are conditions.
---Emcee on 9/29/05

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# 2 .
A passing reference to the fact that we would eventually be joining the saints, including Mary, but no adoration, no Hail Mary's.
WE told the priesat that we were Protestants, and he welcomed us to take Communion, AS WE WOULD IN OUR OWN CHURCHES ... so not insisting we believed in the transubstantiation.

I hope no-one starts an int-denominational dispute following my story.
MY purpose in mentioning is that I am sure he would still aloow you to be a member of his flock
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/29/05

# 1 There is little alternative to the RCC in Ireland.
But not all RC priests are like that. I was on holiday in ireland this year ... the only church to go to was RC.
It was First Communion for about a dozen youngsters ... arround age 10. Too young we would say. The priest in his address said that was an important in their journey in their journey with Jesus. Salvation was mentioned ... and not a word about works
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/29/05

Only God can tell you if you are living in sin. If they point it out in the bible then they have scriptual backup, if not it is only the churches opinion.I got a free tape through Sound Doctrine Ministries on the title "who said you were guilty?" after listening to that, made me rethink how people think& how God thinks.
---candice on 9/29/05

Please abandon the great whore church in which you speak. Go with your wife to a Godly church. I will pray God will put you under conviction to be saved. Please, Please, go to church with your wife.
---shira_5965 on 9/29/05

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