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Bible Says Christians Can Lust

Took the sexual quiz. Question 16 asks about self pleasuring was wrong. The verse that was used in the anwser had nothing to with the question. Actually there is nothing mentioned in the Bible about self pleasure. So who says it wrong? God surely doesn't.

Moderator - Where is the confusion? Matthew 5:27-30 - Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

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 ---Robert on 10/5/05
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This argument about "self pleasure, Wrong or right" is disgusting. When my eye is caught in lust my shame is high, i collapse before God, and repent. Jesus said "to gain life, a man must lose his life.." i am not to sure where that is found but you can look it up. Fact is if your pushing the line on any sin you don't even want to know Jesus! You are being caught in your own desire holding on trying to live life to the "full" as a Christian. What a perverse thing to ever even think of doing. The book of James might have some advice for this... Truthfully the whole bible does but read James first and you will see what even a desire can do.
---Pat on 7/8/11

john, how many scriptures do you need with Jesus using the word hell?
---evangelistjerry on 8/22/08

You know ignorance is not blissfulness. You do not know God, Jesus, or the Bible. Jesus talked about HELL. And if a person is truly saved that person will eat up this good strong preaching on hell. And to the lady about the skirt. Who said God only looks upon the heart. God is not stupid, He knows when we dress half naked. And you obviously will presume on God's goodness. Well, my friend, you as I have said do not know God nor His son. Both are one and are fed up with society.
---catherine on 8/21/08

please stop using the word hell , Jesus never used the word and the traditional concept of an eternal place of torture is ridiculous and does not serve Gods purpose to love his creation. and scares a lot of new christians away!
---John on 8/21/08

Jesus clearly taught that the love of money was a sin, while proper utilization of wealth is not. as such, the love of self pleasure is a sin , but proper utlization of self pleasure to maintain sexual self control is not. like so many things , its the degree that counts. eating is good , eating to excess is not. But, if you are concerned about this issue, pray to Jesus, he will let you know if you are sinning. That personal realtionship with him is what it is all about. For one person, it may be sinful, for another, not.
---John on 8/21/08

Lust is any unnatural desire, including self pleasure. Self pleasuring is a branch that grows from the tree of lust, and is therefore sin. You might think,"I'm not lusting when I pleasure myself" but you are, If you have a desire for something that you see, hear, read, or whatever that is so strong that it causes you to pleasure yourself, that unnatural desire is lust. Dont look at the Bible as an exhaustive set of rules fromGod. That will cause you to assume that because something is not specifically in the bible,it is not sin. Read the Bible to get an understanding of the character and nature of God and you will begin to see why certain things not mentioned in God's word are still against the nature of God, and are therfore sin.
---Mack on 8/11/08

lust is sin... thinking unpure thots about anyone is wrong... even people who marry someone whom God never told them to marry and then they lust on that person even thru marriage is wrong if it is not of GOd... God tells us who to marry.. and people who marry the wrong person on their own are sinning..God has a specific person He chose for each of us..and gives us the correct desire... not lust
---bonna6566 on 4/17/08

In about 99 out of 100 people do not know the word of God. Believers do not know much because, they do not pray, and they are not close to God, which is more important than reading or studying the Bible. All three God expects continuously.
---catherine on 4/17/08

Part 2 1co 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer, and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
---evangelistjerry on 4/16/08

to answer Robert's question with one verse is 1co 7:2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. 1co 7:3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 1co 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
---evangelistjerry on 4/16/08

God created sexual pleasure to be between a husband & wife. Not a person with themselves. We are abusing our bodies if we indulge in self pleasure. Remember, we belong to God, not just our hearts, but our whole bodies belong to Him.
---Melissa on 4/15/08

Brad ... Look at the original question, and then at the concluding sentence of the scripture that Mod quoted.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/28/06

mistranslation my foot. if this is wrong, how can you trust any of it?
---r.w. on 10/27/06

Research this passage!!. It is a mis-translation. It should read, Who ever earnestly desires (Covets) another mans wife(Gune) commits adultery in his heart. Admiring or desiring a woman who is not married does not constitute adultery as this mis-translation would have you believe. Really, if no one ever desired a woman how is it that any one would ever be attracted to any woman. God made woman, flesh of his flesh and bone of his bone. WE are to desire her as described in Song of Songs
---brad on 9/30/06

God made all our body parts for specific reasons, namely to "glorify Echad/God in our bodies", "present(ing) our bodies a living sacrifice, holy & acceptable to Echad/God, which is our 'reasonable' service".

Romans 1st chapter speaks of some "having their understanding darkened" & "professing themselves to be wise, became fools". Again I Jn.1:8-10.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 10/31/05

One does'nt need a "partner" to fornicate! All sexual sin is fornication including the act in question. "The pleasures of world [carnal man] is but for a season [temporal]".

Wonder why Echad/God made Eve as a "helpmate" for Adam's needs which were more than one dimensional or just for reproductive purposes [p.s. Adam already had hands!]. The last thing one should try, is to justify there shortcomings scripturely [I Jn.1:8-10]!
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 10/31/05

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Many times people get to technical and forget the obious. Has anyone read the Song of Solomon lately. Why would our Holy God allow such a lust (desire for one's spouse) filled book to be in the Bible?? What did Adam say to Eve? You are bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh, in other words 'babe, you are HOT!' And It also states that he who finds a wife finds a good thing! Lastly, God made man visually stimulated for a reason! Procreation! Where would we be without it?
---Ron_&_Melissa on 10/11/05

"Whatever is pure, whatever is true, whatever is right, think on these things". Self pleasure involves a measure of letting your mind wander into fantasy that is lustful so there's your loophole stitched up I'm afraid. You are free to do what you like in the dark but do it knowing that you are sinning so be sure to repent for it just as any other sin until the point when your heart is so hard you stop repenting.
---lisa on 10/10/05

Sister Karia, don't been strees with the questions and answers. Many of us just read and we all learn a lot from them. Many on line do go through so much and they don't ask the questions. Answers from the moderator are handled short and to the point while Daniel gave a great explanation and was in three parts. I am sure the moderator if they had time would go through it all. I thank you for the courage to even answer because many would not.

Moderator - You are very correct Lupe that we have such limited time and are greatly encouraged when the other saints give more detailed scriptures and explainations.
---Lupe2618 on 10/10/05

I think I am resigning from this "conversation" due to it doesn't need to cause this much stress in ones life.. haha. Thanks Daniel, I think your words were more eloquent than any I have seen on here thus far. :-)
---karia_3875 on 10/7/05

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Lusts are objects of desire, Mk 4:19. It is a inward sin which leads to the falling away from God. Ro 1:21. Moderator did back up with scripture, he wrote it down.
---Rebecca_D on 10/7/05

Question was "Bible says Christians can Lust"Answer NO.-Lust=The excessive appetite for carnal pleasure especially that experienced in sexual gratification. It is excessive & unreasonable when such pleasure is sought in a way that is not in keeping with the end for which appetite is given to man as the procreation of children, Or when the appetite is indulged in Excess.It is one of the capital sins or vices as it so easily lesds to other sins.It debases the virtue of chastity& self restraint.
---Emcee on 10/7/05

[Part3]It is whenever one thinks of their own self-gratification instead of truly LOVING the other person and accepting whatever joy comes back in return. Christ never treats us as robots to do only as he commands; he wants us to glorify Him out of love for what He did for us!
---Daniel on 10/7/05

[Part2]...forcefully wrong, but Eph.5:25 tells husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the Church! (Single women: Don't EVER consider marrying men who don't have the LOVE of Christ!) God's glory is not self-gratification. V.28's "loves himself" is *not* worldly 'self-love' but agapao-LOVE in the same way God tells us our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit, so don't damage it. So, can there be 'sinful sex' in marriage? Sure! [CONT.]
---Daniel on 10/7/05

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The moderator is not jumping off the deep end here, and is not incorrect. To me (and it's just my opinion) it sounds as if some of you are feeling attacked & don't want to hear that it is wrong, because you are doing it?
---Melissa on 10/7/05

[Part.1]Though having 'sexual desires' for your spouse isn't a sin in itself, *it is evil* if you only have yourself in mind! We'd be poor off, if 1Cor.7:3-5's "stop depriving one another" were all we had on marriage, but God tells us we must do all things in true LOVE (1Cor13:4ff). LOVE "does not seek its own"(v.5). Self-gratification is *not* LOVE! Worldly "self-love" is not Biblical LOVE. God made man in a way wives don't need to analyze if her asking is... [CONT.]
---Daniel on 10/7/05

It is not a matter of backing up with scripture, thou I know in most views the Bible teaches and instructs on Lust as sin, BUT it is always used in the context of lusting after someone elses wife/husband. All I have done here is state, that just because a husband and wife may lust for one another it is not sin as long as no one else is involved. I am NOT saying the Bible is wrong, so mod.. don't use the generic answer on me this time. :-) And I do study many versions of the Bible not just one.

Moderator - "It is not a matter of backing up with scripture" It is a matter of backing up with scripture, otherwise it is just ones opinion versus what God's Word states.
---karia_3875 on 10/7/05

Wow. Moderator's really jumped off the deep end here.

Moderator - Please back up with scriptures.
---Erin on 10/7/05

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we should ask why it's not considered a sin for a couple, married or not, to have relations without considering whether they are going to be good parents or not. this is a more serious issue than self-gratification.
---James on 10/7/05

Karia&Moderator: Though I do not agree with everything Karia said, I think you two are having a problem over words here. The Moderator seems to be using 'lust' as most Bibles do: 'lust'='evil desire' whereas Karia is saying that 'lust' only means 'sexual desire' (which *if* you're with your spouse is an acceptable desire; and part of the reason for marrying). Karia, what Bible version do you use? Doesn't it use 'lust' for 'evil desires'?
---Daniel on 10/7/05

If you were to pleasure yourself while looking/watching certain material that would be wrong because you are NOT desiring your spouse but the figures on the material, the same would be with the fantasy thought. If it is not about you and your spouse it would be wrong. I believe the Mod on this issue is wrong here. If your hand causes you to sin cut it off. ( It is a figure of speech, ie dont let your hand touch someone who is not your spouse.)

Moderator - Are you your spouse?
---eric on 10/7/05

Did GOD not bring to me my bride? Did GOD not join my Bride and Myself into one? Did not GOD give to me the desire for my wife? is it not true that GOD knows my heart? then how do you know that it is wrong to perform a pleasurable act on ones self while having the thoughts and memories of ones spouse. I know the way of the world has perverted a lot of people but Not everything associated with sex is dirty and against GOD. Continued..

Moderator - God joined you to your bride; not you to yourself.
---Eric on 10/7/05

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Word study: "epithum-ia/-eo" can mean 'desire', 'longing' or 'lust'. You can only decide if 'evil' by reading the whole CONTEXT of the writer; it's used in Hebrews 6:11 and 1 Timothy 3:1 as good. There are a number of other Greek words used for good desires. 'Lust' though, is against God's will! We should only have those desires with a spouse. But that leads to something frustrating for many of us: Almost zero Biblical churches in America try to 'pair-up' their "1Cor7:9 singles"! Why?

Moderator - Show sciptures that state we are suppose to have lust toward our spouse. Thanks.
---Daniel on 10/7/05

I'm sorry but no where in Webster does it say it is a self indulgent act. Quote: Lust: an intense sexual desire; an intense LONGING.
Desire: To LONG for, exhibit or feel desire for; strong intention.
Both of these can be felt for your spouse.

Moderator - Please show the scriptures that state lust for anything is Godly.
---karia_3875 on 10/6/05


Yes, I do desire my husband very much. I was just unclear how that is different from any other lust. Is it different?

Moderator - Yes, God made us to desire our spouse. God didn't make us to lust. Lust is a self-indulgent sexual desire while desire is to feel or want strongly.
---Debbie on 10/6/05

I agree that self gratification is wrong.

That said, I have another question. I am married. I want to have sex with my husband. When he is gone, I think about having sex with my husband and I long for it. He is in my mind and I can't wait until we can be together again to have sex.

Is this lust? If we didn't lust after our own spouse, how would we ever procreate?

Moderator - Sounds like you desire your husband versus lust. We should all desire our own spouse.
---Debbie on 10/6/05

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lol.. you are skirting the issue. You show me the scripture where he was married, had sex, and guided others on what is right and wrong in the bedroom of marriage. It doesn't exist. Therefore, the issue of self pleasure being wrong and lustful as long as it is within the confines of marriage is not wrong.

Moderator - Jesus didn't have to be married in order to speak on issues of lust. Using that logic, you must be Jesus to speak on issues of Jesus. As stated with previous scriptures, lust isn't biblical whether one is married or not.
---karia_3875 on 10/5/05

yes, he is our example to follow, with everything other than sex, marriage, and the questions of this particular blog.

Moderator - Please show the scriptures.
---karia_3875 on 10/5/05

Moderator, I never said Jesus was ify. I said the principle of using "would Jesus ever do it" was ify. That is my point. He was sinless, He was perfect, therefore, sex and lust even in your own marriage would be sin.. would it not, because Jesus never would marry. And yes there are times I lust over my own husband. :-) He is gone a lot and I miss him. I crave to be with him, and I want nothing more than to be in his arms. So is this lust sinful?

Moderator - "I said the principle of using "would Jesus ever do it" was ify." Why? Jesus is our example to follow.
---Kari_3875 on 10/5/05

Not that I don't agree that if you continue to want more then it COULD lead to adultery, but there are some out there whose spouses are absent for LONG periods of time, no adultery involved. And it is ify to say would Jesus do it? then don't cause Jesus didn't marry, therefore he didn't ever do it, therefore doing it during marriage would not fall into that category either.

Moderator - Kari, there is nothing ify about Jesus. Jesus never sinned and lust would be sin.
---Kari_3875 on 10/5/05

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Well i know where you are going with this and it is okay, but if it leads to lust or any other sins it isn't okay. So i guess that you already know the answer. I had the same questions and so do some other people i know.
---Lisa on 10/5/05

Do you not know that self pleasure can lead to wanting more and wanting more can lead to adultry? Why would someone want something that is not real anyway? Bible clearly states that Lust is wrong. Pleasuring oneself can lead to Lust which can lead to adultry which is SIN. It is wrong and a sin.
---Shaz on 10/5/05

Dear Moderator,
This has always been a question in my mind since I was very young. Do you have any more scriptures that specifically refer to self pleasure? Thank you.

Moderator - Romans 1:24, Ephesians 5:3, 2 Thessalonians 4:2-8. Would Jesus do that? Is it lust? Is it godly behavior that brings glory to God?
---Sherry on 10/5/05

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