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Where Is The True Praise Music

What ever happen to true praise and worship songs . I've noticed that in modern Christian worship music it's filled with alot of mediocre praise and worship and not the music that used to be played by God fearing Christians.

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Look up Carroll Roberson. It's all about Jesus.
---Mr._Graham on 11/25/07

Let's remember that worship is not just singing but it's giving every breath we have to glorify God. It's laying it down on the alter and dying to self. Let's not bundle worship in a brightly colored package called singing. A life of worship is truly a beatiful life to behold. It's like looking at Jesus with skin on. Those are the kind of people that are magnets and you just want to be around them for some reason- because they live in the presence of God.
---MichelleS on 11/24/07

I have to get in on this one. First off- Herb, your a pharisee to say the least. I have met a Christian like you before I got saved I would have never accepted Jesus. You need to stop looking on the outside of things and start looking at their hearts- oh wait a minute, your not God! Therefore- you have no right to judge a christian by what music they listen to!
Billy Graham crusades regularly have modern worship artists singing - is he going to hell because he provides the venue?
---MichelleS on 11/24/07

To all the naive christians out there who think Charasmatic music is repetitive- you really need to listen to some of Hillsong's stuff or the Passion Worship Band. Although I agree that some of it is repetitive, I don't think all of it is. That kind of statement lacks truth. I sing these songs in choir and let me tell yah- they are not easy to learn.
---MichelleS on 11/24/07

Praise and Worship is not an hour routine in church twice a week, it's a lifestyle. How does our life glorify God the rest of the week? I am 24 years young and enjoy a wide variety of music. I like the hymns and old choruses and also enjoy the modern praise choruses...every era of praise music will have some songs that just "make you feel good" and others that are rich in biblical content. There are God-inspired people today who write songs just as deep as some of the beautiful hymns.
---danna9955 on 11/24/07

I occasionally attend a church where they sing choruses for quite a long time (maybe not as long as an hour though) and it is, indeed, very tiring. I now copy what I see quite a number of the older members do - sit down to sing after the second chorus and remain seated until they have finished. I think that a few choruses can be very inspiring but an hour of them seems to be just to whip up some sort of emotional fever. I think we should be very wary of this.
---RitaH on 11/24/07

I dislike the overhead projection of hymns and choruses. It leaves people like myself, very short-sighted, unable to join in. My own church has hymn and chorus books, some of the hymns are very old fashioned but absolutely scriptural. My daughter's church has overhead projection as do many charismatic churches. The songs are just repetative and very tiring to sing, even if I know them. They stand for about an hour 'worshipping' this way before what I would call the service really starts.
---F.F. on 11/23/07

The praise and worship that draws you into God's presence was left with the apostasy. Half the time now they don't even know who it is they are singing about. They say "listen to the words". Yes, have a listen and you will see.
---Helen_5378 on 4/26/07

Don't forget that the hymn book is compiled of the best songs during an 1800 year period. There were thousands written that didn't make it. The same today. They aren't all great songs but there are plenty of great ones. Overheads are better than hymn books because people with poor eyesight can't read the small print. And you can't follow Scriptural instructions by raising your hands in worship when you have a big book in your hands.
---john on 4/26/07

They still have music like praise, hymnals etc at traditional churches. I know what oyu mean,seems like they are replacing hymnal books with hightech screens with the words on them, though they help for people with poor eyesight, why the "show"? traditional music IMO is more acceptable.
---candice on 4/26/07

I notice in this discussion there is never a simple question: are the words Godly? Not do they sound nice, give nice warm feelings, but are the scriptural?
My challenge to those who like to sing modern music: how many have become Christians, and stayed, through modern music?
---mike6553 on 11/18/05

NvBarb.....I get tickled when ignorant people start talking about Nevada like there are no Christians who live there. Few people know that there are more churches in Las Vegas than there are bars.
---Sally on 10/18/05

ok worship is not about music or notes or how the music sound, worship is GOD plain and simple, worship is about GOD, FOR God and TO God, so dont worry about the music, if your really worried about the music, your heart isn't in the right place, search yourself ask yourself, is God REALLY number one in my life??pray and seek
---angie on 10/12/05

I personally love the old stuff and the new stuff. I can worship anywere any time with or with out music. I can worship just sitting and watching the sunset. Its about the heart not the beat.
---Kaleo on 10/12/05

Ok first of all music itself is simply notes. there are only a certain number of combinations that notes can be put into. Music is millinia of years old. eventually you run out of ways to arrange notes and you have to start using some beats from the past. I can almost garuentee that just about every song that we sing if you go back far enough you will be able to find another song with the same melody. The beat isn't what matters. it is the word and the heart behind the singing.
---Kaleo on 10/12/05

Herb, I've been wondering about this and, after reading some of your replies to other blogs I have to ask. What's made you so bitter? Most of your replies exude some serious anger and very little love for fellow human beings.
---Heather on 10/12/05

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Good point, Bob. If I may expound on "pointing," I had a teacher who put an interesting perpective on it (this one really made me think at the time)-"remember, when you're pointing one finger at someone, there are three fingers pointing back at you."
---Heather on 10/12/05

Thank you Bob. Well spoken.
---Linda_Smith on 10/12/05

I'm tired of ministries of rebuke after rebuke and no love and forgivness, and a very important one is understanding. Pride is hidden behind cronic rebuking. This turns me off and it gets a lot of people very angry. You would think that some of these so called ministers never sin, but the opposite usually happens, they are the ones who have the problems that they are complaining about. Remember this rule: If a Pastor is always finger pointing and not following up in love than that Pastor has big problems.
---Bob on 10/11/05

Herb: Since you have not been in my church, you cannot say it is a country club. My church is a place of worship.

If you spent more time reading about Christ's love, your comments would have less bitterness to them, and more compassion.

Stop looking at what other Christians are doing and start loving them and the lost.
---Madison on 10/11/05

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Time is to short to lighten up. If we see something that is not right, we must make it known. We can't tipy toe around important subjects any longer. If we give the devil an inch, he will take it all.

Let us wake up and see what the devil is doing before it is to late. Churchs have become country clubs not places of worship.
---Rev_Herb on 10/11/05

"But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the TRUE worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such as these to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him MUST worship in spirit and truth." John 4:23
I don't see anything in this scripture that indicates whether GOD LIKES contemporary or traditional. Worship is about GOD- not US. I find this blog very sad, and I'm sure HE does as well
---Sis_M. on 10/11/05

Herb, why don't you lighten up? You may be right on some of the things that you are saying here but it doesn't sound like you have much love. You are too quick to condem and that puts up a wall immediately! You need wisdom. I'm sure not going to call you reverend. I have been saved probably longer than you and I know that that doesn't give me any special rights but I have learned that the people that are always correcting and condeming are the one's who have the secret sins. I have found this to be true.
---Peter on 10/11/05

Back in the 1960s there was a popular T.V. drama series called Z cars. It's signature tune will be remembered by many in U.K. I worked in a Christian establishment at the time and a member of staff realised how easily we could sing 'What a friend we have in Jesus' to that tune. After that we always used the Z cars tune for that hymn when we had morning and Sunday worship. I have no idea who wrote the tune (or what that person's beliefs were) but it was certainly used to glorify God in my place of work.
---M.P. on 10/11/05

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Don't look at me Herb just because I live in Las Vegas! I never did the fans and feathers act!
Stripping for God, some will do anything for attention, IF this is indeed true!
---NVBarbara on 10/10/05

Is this Blog Christian? This blog thing is new to me. Why do some judge everything not done their way! Please, dear ones, remember, it's fruit. Do you see changes in lives, Jesus Saviour/Lord? My new church is small/country/old does 2 hymns/2 contemporary. The mega church I love, also, but we left 1 after 7 yrs. (leaders-moral sin/ fraud). "Amazing Grace"-an old bar tune. It is the message! Our drama team does all styles of Christian music-even older seniors love it!
---Darlene on 10/10/05

One thing I have noticed over the last two years while we have visited several churches in our evangelism ministry is this. The church which has the most awesome praise and worship as well as preaching, is the poorest congregation of all. Think about it!
---Sally on 10/10/05

Does it really matter who or how it was written or recorded? Doesn't God look at each individual heart in a worship service? Is he not more displeased with people who just sing to get to the sermon? I found the moldy oldies boring and couldn't wait for the sermon when singing them. Now that I worship with contemporary praise music, I cand sing praises to the Lord for hours, with my heart wide open to Him for His love and mercy, telling Him how grateful I am for His love and forgiveness.
---Madison on 10/10/05

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Rev. Herb, how do you know the writer's of new contemporary Christian music, are not saved?

Moderator - In several cases Herb's statement would be true. Frequently the singer doesn't write the song, but secular song writers do. Most of the Christian music labels are owned by the big secular companies. Bottomline it is all about the money because that is the mission of those firms.
---bethie on 10/10/05

Herb: God looks at my heart when I sing praise and worship music.
---Madison on 10/10/05

No matter the style or how it is done, it must be done in excellence and glorifying to God. Many years ago I saw on the news a female striper striping for God. So your above statement holds true? So it doesn't matter how we worship, as long as we worship? So if I believe I am glorifing God in my own mind it makes it alright?

Moderator - I can't wait to hear a answer on this one :)
---Rev_Herb on 10/10/05

Would you go listen to a man preach if you knew he was't saved? So why would you listen to music that was written by the unsaved? Do you think God is narror minded or would He enjoy your worship using worldly music? Would he anoint a non believer to preach his word? Can cursing and blessing come from the same mouth? So can a publisher that publishes porn publish a true bible? Or is it a per-version?
---Rev_Herb on 10/10/05

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No matter the style or how it is done, it must be done in excellence and glorifying to God. The word said that in John 14:12 "he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do".
As long as your heart is true in worship, than God will use you to reach who needs to be reached. It's time for the "heart of worship and not the art of worship"
---MANU_A._CARPENTER on 10/9/05

Herb: I don't care who publishes the music. Did you know that some publishing houses that print the Bible also print porn? Are you going to stop reading God's Word. Get real.

I find your narrow mindedness and intolerance of those of us who worship differently or read other translations dishonoring to the name of Christ.
---Madison on 10/9/05

CCM is a multi-million dollar industry, owned and operated by non-christian organizations making merchandise off of gullible Christians. They combine their worldly styles with Christian words to produce a syncretic, watered-down, anemic brand of Christianity. Found this on the web. Before you judge me for judging you, you better judge yourselves.

Moderator - Herb, you are quoting a fact.
---Rev_Herb on 10/9/05

Madison ... Yes ... I am not too keen on modern worship songs, and only a few will last, in the same way that only a few of the thousands of old-style hymns were good enough to stand the test of time.
But it is important to cater for everyone's taste, and not to make everybody in to conformists.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/9/05

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I buy alot of southern gospel soundtracks for our church to sing. A person can worship God through any gospel song. We sing alot of fast paste songs, like the one we are trying to learn now is "Low and Down" by the McRaes. It is hard to sing, Thou shall Not Be Moved, because someone of them won't move and worship.
---Rebecca_D on 10/9/05

I like a mixture. Some contemporary music and some old hymns. Many of the 'old hymns' are new to me!
Being raised RC, an 'old hymn' to me would have been 'Panis Angelicus' or 'Ave Maria!'
---NVBarbara on 10/9/05

1 Corinthians 8 applies in this case. I am free to use any music that has Words that honor God regardless of the music's original intent.
---Madison on 10/9/05

Alan: If that is true, then we must heed Paul's advice. Aren't we free to eat meat that was sacrificed to idols? If that is the case, then we are free to use whatever music comes down the pike.
---Madison on 10/9/05

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Amen Linda7656! Maybe less attention should be paid to the beat, and more attention focused on God. When singing worship songs hopefully you are not just singing along, but you are singing to God, because you believe the words of the song are true.
---bethie on 10/9/05

Madison ... I think Herb was responding to Ann's comment "Some of our best-loved songs are over 100 years old, and are to old bar-tunes" Many of the old hymn tunes were originally secular, and of course many of the modern tunes are in the style of secular pop. Perhaps the Puritans were right and all music should be bannned in worship, lest it was originally of the devil! That has to be the logical result of Herb's thinking, but personally I think he is way off beam.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/9/05

Herb: What are you talking about? What music is of the devil? Certainly not the praise music at my church. Who declared you the music police? Get off your high horse and lighten up. You worship and praise the Lord your way, and stop judging the way the rest of us praise and worship God.
---Madison on 10/9/05

Ann I so agree with you about songs that repeat lines too often. I sometimes just sit down after about the 4th time and let everyone get on with it. Repetition is what the younger people seem to want because most pop music is just repetition and beat They don't really listen tothe words anyway. However if we are singing to God the words do matter. Make a joyful noise unto the Lord yes, but please let the words make sense and be audible to visitors
---M.P. on 10/9/05

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The music itself has a message without the words. when you take the devil's music and add godly words it's like taking a glass of pure water and adding a drop of posion to it. I still looks good, but is deadly.
---Rev_Herb on 10/9/05

I like a lot of the contemporary Christian music of today as long as it glorifies God. I got saved in 1982 and the music I really love is songs like "The old rugged cross" and "In the garden". You don't hear those songs much anymore and that is sad.
---John on 10/9/05

While most of the contemporary songs are wonderful, worshipful songs of praise, there are those that we call the "7-11" songs....the same 7 words repeated 11 times, and they go on and on and on..(think energizer bunny)..those songs are tiresome and boring, and I end up just standing there not singing. Those songs mean nothing to me. Some of our best-loved songs are over 100 years old, and are to old bar-tunes. That's how we got people back then listening. Nothing wrong with that.
---ann5758 on 10/9/05

Early on in the Reformation here in the UK, the Puritans ruled the country through Oliver Cromwell. They considered all music ungodly, and music was banned in worship.

What more need be said?
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/9/05

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Based on the history of music, I believe that "the music played by God fearing Christians" that you refer to was considered modern to some many years ago. Beyond that, I agree with the sentiment that praise and worship is unique to each indiviual. The beauty of God is that He is real and relevant to everyone in every situation. It's not fair to say that someone does not fear God when (s)he may be giving Him all (s)he knows to give.
---JK on 10/8/05

True worship is found in your intimate expession of the personal relationship you have with HIM. It is as individual as God made you. Express your worship as you have freedom in him to do so!
---rache on 10/8/05

I prefer contemporary worship. My church has it and our times of worship are sweet. We praise God, and sing to God in our songs. We clap our hands and raise them in worship. We are growing and people are accepting Christ regularly.

Rev. Herb: Do not criticize things just because they are different. You would be more than welcome in our church, and the love we have for you will change you because it is of God. Different doesn't mean bad. Stop criticizing and start rejoicing in Him.
---Madison on 10/8/05

Just as there are three rooms in the Tabernacle of Moses, three aspects of spiritual growth, and three dimensions of prayer, there are three dimensions of song....singing ABOUT Jesus, singing UNTO Jesus, and singing WITH Jesus. The same is true of the voice. The are folks who are a voice ABOUT God, folks who are a voice FOR God, and then folks who are the voice OF God (aka a trumpet, the voice of ONE). It all really is a whole lot more awesome than we have ever dreamed.
---Linda_Smith on 10/8/05

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There you go, Linda. Singing to Him is wonderful. Singing WITH Him is even more wonderful. He sings over us the song of the redeemed and when we sing WITH Him, there is agreement. The Song of Solomon is a book about the growth of the bride of Christ and it starts out with, "The song of songs which was Solomon's (king of peace). The maturing and maturity of His bride is the song of all ages.
---Linda_Smith on 10/8/05

How can you speak of those things if you aren't intimate with them? And if you have been in the past, don't forget where you came from. If it hadn't been for the mercy of God, you would still be there.
---Esther on 10/8/05

"Today, we can go to a honky tonk or bar and dance to the music, tomarror we can go to church and listen to the same music with the words changed and call it Contempary Christian music."

How do you know that? Been to either one lately? Just like the ones who brought the adultress to Jesus, they knew her address and had probably even partaken of her sin. In other words, they knew exactly where to find her and their motive wasn't to love her but to test Jesus.
---Esther on 10/8/05

Whether it's old music or new music, traditional or contemporary, I prefer singing TO God rather than ABOUT God. I think you can worship God anywhere, anytime and in any style. It's a mind set and we need to be open minded and just focus on God.
---Linda7656 on 10/8/05

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Carrie, contemporary Christian music isn't for everybody (I know many who prefer the traditional hymns) and that's your decision; your preference. However, there's nothing mediocre about the praise in contemporary christian music. Those songs are based on the Bible just as much as the traditional songs you find in hymnals. The majority of the phrases used in contemporary christian songs are in the Bible, all you have to do is look.
---Heather on 10/8/05

FF ... I do sympathise.
For a period, at my church they used to say "We will now turn to a time of worship" and have these banal repetive songs.
I had to ask what we had being doing up till then before the phrase was dropped!!
But we must remember that different people do have different worship styles, and should try to accommodate them all.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/8/05

Today, we can go to a honky tonk or bar and dance to the music, tomarror we can go to church and listen to the same music with the words changed and call it Contempary Christian music.
---Rev_Herb on 10/8/05

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