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Please Explain Hebrews 10:30-31

Hbr 10:30 and 31 read "For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." This is serious stuff, but do we take it seriously?

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 ---M.P. on 10/9/05
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Well, we had better! This is why WE stay in prayer. Continuously asking God to forgive us and help us. In the name of His Son, Jesus Christ.
---catherine on 5/16/08

True this is a fearful thing. Which is why some try to remove it to a different time. But it is written to the church for today.
---Samuel on 5/15/08

Let me clarify something, This is written for after the BOC is raptured out. The BOC is still here, for now anyway. This passage will take place after we are gone.
---geraa7578 on 5/14/08

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. No, We don't take it as seriouly as we should. Read on: God is still living and active, His judgment is certain and severe. For true believers, our God is a God of love and mercy, for the defiant, He is a God to be dreaded and feared.
---catherine on 9/11/07


Your first mistake (and it was a big one) was taking two verses from an entire chapter of 39 verses out of context, and then focusing on just those two verses.
The two verses in question are specifically referring to the subject of the previous verse. Namely, anyone who "has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace." Next time, read the whole chapter as a single thought.
---berf on 9/10/07

There is no rapture.

ALL Christians and nonChristians are in God's plan together. Are you so vain to think that we are different than Christians in the past? This last generation is the worse generation in all of history and will be judged accordingly and harshly. Your trust in God's protection is the armour of God that will protect you. EVERYTHING written since the beginning is for our use - LEARN FROM IT. Pray that you are worthy of His protection during these difficult times.
---Steveng on 9/9/07

1Cr 3:13 his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work.

1Cr 3:14 If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward.

1Cr 3:15 If it is burned up, he will suffer loss, he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.
---Andrea on 9/9/07

If you don't care where you spend eternity you don't have to take it seriously. Revelation 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. You might want to take care of that ASAP!
---denna7667 on 9/9/07

A good rule to follow is to ask, who is writing the passage of scripture, who is it being written to, and for what purpose was it written? This is written after the rapture of the Body of Christ. It is written to the Jewish people, and it is a warning to them. As for the BOC, we are long gone when this takes effect. At the same time, we should be living by example.
---geraa7578 on 9/9/07

Daniel did you really write this again on 3.7.07 or is it recycled from about 14 months ago when you can see that M.P. actually answered that question below?
---m.p.a. on 3/15/07

M.P.: Who is "we" in your question? First off, your verses shouldn't be considered without v.29 which says those who "trampled under foot the Son of God" and "insulted the Spirit of grace!" So, someone who's rejected the gospel is in view here. I don't believe it speaks of a saved person though; it seems to have Jews who claim to believe in God in mind (it is called Hebrews!), but have denied that Jesus is the Messiah. I take it seriously!
---Daniel on 3/7/07

[Pt.2]...apply to Christians today, but we are to learn from each one, how God interacted with those individuals, and remember them! Many of the events in the past should give us pause and cause us to praise God all the more for our salvation! M.P.: Though one's salvation doesn't depend upon anyone else in the least bit, so don't put a guilt trip on yourself about that, we must never say no to witnessing opportunities God lays on our hearts.
---Daniel on 10/11/05

[Pt.1]M.P.: Thanks for your explanation! Agree with most of that, which is also why I said "I take it very seriously!" at the end of my comment. I believe every passage (paragraph, basic thought chunk) has only 1 interpretation, but might have many applications. Unlike those who chop-up even the N.T., Christians need to take all of the Scriptures seriously when it comes to living their lives for Christ. Many covenants, laws, promises/punishments and historical events do *NOT* directly... [CONT.]
---Daniel on 10/11/05

, hebrews was written to christians who were in danger of falling back into judaism, and abandoning Christ.
---steve on 10/11/05

3.We all (I'm sure) have friends, relatives, neighbours who are heading for hell and, personally, I know that if I don't take this thought more seriously than I have I am never going to reach any of them for Christ.
---M.P. on 10/11/05

2. though not necessarily every single one) often place such an emphasis on our 'loving' God that we forget that we will one day be answerable for every idle word we've spoken. Also we talk much about the place that God is preparing for us and seem to almost forget that He is preparing a place for those who have NOT accepted Him also and that thought is a 'fearful thing' because they will meet an 'angry God'.
---M.P. on 10/11/05

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I wrote this question on a day when I had several different thoughts in my mind. Firstly I was feeling like I wanted vengeance personally then I remembered this verse. Also I have recently read the sermon "Sinners in the hands of an angry God" and again I linked some of these words 'a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God'. The way my mind was working that day got me thinking about how 'we' (meaning Christians,
---M.P. on 10/11/05

, geraa, this book was written to christians who were in danger of falling back into the old Jewish traditions, instead of staying with Christ.
---steve on 10/10/05

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