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Why Does God Let Us Suffer

If God is really existing, why did He allow destructions, calamities, and famine? And if He loves us, why do He allow us to suffer?

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Suffering has many purposes, to waking a person up, to getting a person to turn to God, to causing a person to activate their faith, to drawing people together, etc. So how are you using suffering when it comes upon you? Are you blaming and blaspheming God, or, are you drawing closer to God? The Israelites who were being tried by God wandering in the wilderness, murmured against God saying, We were better off in bondage in Egypt, then to wandering around out here in the wilderness. Yet God kept them from evil, and their shoes did not where out for 40 years (imagine a pair of shoes like that), and they were fed by God, manna from heaven. But they complained against God because they missed the sins of Egypt where they were beaten as slaves.
---Eloy on 10/23/08

ghagha, Job told God, "My days not few? Cease, let me alone, that I may take comfort a little before I go, I will not return, to the land of darkness and the shadow of death." Job 10:20,21. "And YHWH turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also YHWH gave Job twice as much as he had before." Job 42:10. Please read James 5:10,11. Because God loves us enough to let us have experience and learn and gain wisdom and understanding and knowledge. Job learned, "I have heard of you by the hearing of the ear, but now mine eye sees you." Job 42:5. The best ministers to people who are suffering are the ministers who they themselves have suffered. Please read Hebrews 4:15.
---Eloy on 10/23/08

This is a fallen world, and Satan controls it largely. God is watching and will bring judgement and all the people of God will rejoice. Jesus said Those who come after me should pick up their cross and follow me. The Prison Industry is the biggest profit making industry in the world. Many innocents are jailed under indescribable conditions even in First World Countries, as detainees illegally in the country. This is the second worst evil after abortion, also a profitable business.
---frances008 on 10/22/08

But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Hebrews 12:7-9

We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.
Romans 15:1-3

Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
Galatians 6:1-3
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
Revelation 2:1-3
Yea, though I walk though the valley of the .....
---Trav on 10/22/08

If sin had not entered this world, there wouldn't be any destruction, calamity and famine. It was not His choice. The choice was made by man and has continued to be made by man. God will not force us to serve Him, it is our choice. And it's our choices that have made this world what it is today. The fact that we suffer is not by God's choice. But He will use situations and people in our lives to help mold us and shape us into what He wants us to be. Trials come to hone us as christians and to make us aware of the tactics of the enemy.
---Faith on 10/22/08

Peter and the other Apostles said they rejoiced that they were counted worthy to suffer for the name of Christ - Acts 5:41.

Paul encourages Timothy to be a partaker in the afflictions of the gospel - 2 Tim 1:8.

When we suffer it draws others to God, encouraging them to pray. It reminds us to pray. We are able to set an example for other Christians that His grace is sufficient.

Christ suffered. Are we better than Jesus?

Here is some comfort: Paul said:
Rom8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

Paul called his sufferings "light affliction" (2 Cor 4:17). Paul's sufferings: 2 Cor 11:23-28.
---trey on 10/21/08

God made us able to choose between good and evil. Adam and Eve's sin had one good consequence, and that was that we received a conscience. By listening to our conscience we can resist evil. We can choose good. If you do not wish to keep the commandments that you can live by then you will die and also go to Hell. There has to be a price to pay for destroying God's earth or humans or animals with your sins. and causing much suffering. If evil people do not repent they die and go to Hell. Repent means turn away from their sins. Jesus came to show us how to repent and to bring us the Holy Spirit and will return to judge everyone and reward those who did good.
---frances008 on 10/19/08

Everything that grows suffers. Even a flower. When we become a Christian, we go through trials, tribulations, fiery furnaces, all called suffering. Sometimes it is not so bad, but often it is hard.
These sufferings bring us to the Father, God, to get His help. They force us to the Bible trying to find the way out. Read the 23rd Psalm. These sufferings often seem meaningless, but they are stepping stones in our spiritual growth.
If everything was always easy, we would be content and not grow.
---Sandra on 10/19/08

god does not, we do
---netta_3634 on 10/18/08

Hi Ghagha! If there were no suffering, there would be no need for compassion, a virtue virtually absent from these blogs. God be with you, and be as compassionate as you can, just as God is!
---johannes on 10/17/08

**It all comes down to CHOICE!!!!**

Well, Adam and Eve made the choice, and all humanity thereafter is paying the consequence of sin.

This is why we need Jesus Christ to redeem our fallen state

Man, no matter how noble cannot turn back the clock and FIX things. Our only Hope is in our Savior.

Isaiah 51:6
Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished.
---kathr4453 on 10/17/08

To Whosoever has an ear to hear?

It all comes down to CHOICE!!!!

It's not that God desired or allow this to happen to man, so much as He permitted man the option of choice.

Suffering, destruction, calamity & famine only existed in the earth after the evil of sin came into the world.

God desires man to be all that is good, this is why He made us in the goodness of His image. But He did permit man the option of falling into this entire calamity of sin, by giving us the choice to choose evil.

...Read Part 2
---Shawn.M.T on 10/16/08

To Whosoever has an ear to hear?.....Continued

In order for God to truly create us to actually exist in His image we need to be able to choose evil as He is able to choose evil, but God would never choice evil & warned us never to choice as well.

If we did not have the option of being something other than what He created us to be, then we would be limited....and the image of God is not limited, it is boundless.

But the boundlessness of God's image comes with a price, and that price being to only partake in the knowledge of good, never choosing good & evil as Adam did which led to "the fall" and allowed the entire calamities of sin into the World.
---Shawn.M.T on 10/16/08

Sorrow and suffering will continue until God sets up his kingdom on earth...but then:

"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." Rev. 21:4.

Wow! Can you even imagine that God is going to wipe away all your tears? It will be worth it all!
---barb on 7/20/08

Why suffering? As someone wrote in these blogs months ago, and it made sense: No pain, no gain.
---old_guy on 7/18/08

Oh, this is going to be good! For the wicked man, God sends disasters as a wake up call.. For the righteous, it is to strengthen, and also, spiritual lessons will be involved. Trust God, He does exist. Every man has a spirit. God is spirit and He is a person. The Spirit is what enables us to fellowship with the one, true, living, God. However, you can only do this if God knows you.
---catherine on 7/18/08

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Whom God loves , him will he chastise . When my parents punished me as a child , I suffered, but they did it for my good. God sometimes uses human agency,sometimes sickness to punish us. When you suffer do not ask why but Lord help me to understand you and me better. The suffering that is imposed on us is not something greater than we can bear,. The Lord knows our strength and resistance.
---Joy on 7/18/08

that's a really tough question but i like the way Job responded to the pain and suffering he went through. we could learn alot from him. As humans we always expect good things;we never complain when such happens. but as christians, we should realize that all things work together for our own good. there is always a lesson behind every suffering. 2Corinthians 4:7-13
---catherine on 7/18/08

It does seem like unbelievers gets away with everything in this life. They won't. Someday on judgment day when these bruts are standing before my God they will be nothing, necked. My God, most powerful, my God. You won't be so big and powerful.No. My God will cut you down to size. My God will say to you, "Be gone from me, out of my sight".
---catherine on 3/25/07

Read the Secrets of the vine by-Bruce Wilkinson. John 15:1-2,5,8-. We are being pruned to produce fruit. Everytime you go through hardship, don't you pray more, lean closer to God? If you stay close to God always, you won't constantly have to go through hardship, but life is full of it. Put all your trust in the Lord Jesus, He knows best for us.
---Junia on 3/25/07

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Life in this world is short. Eternity is eternal.
---lorra8574 on 3/25/07

In Psalm 37:37 we read promise, "mark the perfect man and behold the upright;for the end of that man is peace.The Devil is author of Sin,destruction and way of doom we see.God never promised Life would be free from hurt and Danger;but He offered us free-will to choose the righteous hope and Joy of His Son Jesus.At Calvary,the Lord died in our stead,but rose again that we understand His way of mercy,grace and everlasting arms of Love.We know the Truth is everything written in the Holy Word,Our Bible.
---rosem4839 on 3/25/07

If we love God, then why arn't we in church everytime the doors are open? Why do we lie, cheat and steal? Why don't we spend more time reading God's word and praying?

Look at the life of Paul, he suffered. If we suffer for Christ it gives God the glory. Suffering sometimes brings us closer to God.
---Rev_Herb on 3/25/07

Read Job. We don't always know the whole story just like Job didn't know the entire story and yet he still praised God.
---Kaleo on 10/25/05

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1 Peter 4:12-13 we are partakers of JCH's
1 Peter 1: 7 fiery trials render our faith
more precious
Rom 5:3-5 trials also help us to be
patient, experienced and
---Pierre on 10/23/05

3. but rejoiced in the power of Christ that it revealed through him. Here God allowed a demon to hinder Paul and would not remove it. God had a purpose for this incident. Here was Paul that could heal others and yet could not heal himself and that is why there is many reasons recorded in Scripture of illness and sufferings but all with a different meaning and purpose, so they cannot be treated the same.
---Lupe2618 on 10/16/05

2. verse 12:9, "My grace is sufficient for you," The present tense of the verb translated "is sufficient" reveals the constant availability of divine grace. God would not remove the thorn, as Paul had requested, but would continually supply him with grace to endure it (1 Cor.15:10; Phil. 4:13; Col. 1:29). My strength is made perfect in weakness. The weaker the human instrument, the more clearly God's grace shines forth. 12:9,10, Paul took no pleasure in the pain itself,
---Lupe2618 on 10/16/05

Ghagha, In "2 Corinthians 12:8, Paul longing for relief from this painful hindrance to his ministry, went to the Lord, begging Him (the use of the definite article with "Lord" shows Paul's prayer was directed to Jesus) to remove it. The demons are only subject to His authority. The 3-fold repetition of Paul's request parallels that of Jesus in Gethsemane (Mark 14:32-41). Both Paul and Jesus had their requests denied, but were granted grace to endure their ordeals.
---Lupe2618 on 10/16/05

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Think of it in terms of refining. Gold needs to be refined by fire. If it does not it does not become pure. If it is refined to much then the gold is scathed and useless. Now how does that apply to us? well We are Gold, sin is fire. We are refined by fire and we become stronger. Stronger in faith, and in God.
---Gabriel on 10/16/05

2. Sister Dory, I didn't mean to suggest anything wrong in your answer. I didn't even think it that way. it was just a correction. I am still training on how to answer and to check other peoples feelings. I am learning and have a long ways to go. I am sorry if I answered wrong.
---Lupe2618 on 10/15/05

Sister Dory, I might have read where you said that, "the whole world was under the control of the evil one." and I just wanted to clarify that everything is under the control of God. The lost world is under the influence of the devil. That is for sure and that is why the lost are depraved and inslave to sin. I believe if we get it wrong we could get everything else wrong. That was the only reason sister. Thank you for your response.
---Lupe2618 on 10/15/05

God NEVER promised a natural lifetime of painfree,peaceful existence:He promised us that in our eternal life .we are subjected to illness because of our natural bodies.. WE cannot blame God for all destructions,etc..many are caused by our own sin /greed, NOTHING shall separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus.(Rom.8;39)"...Be of good cheer.. I have overcome the world" Jesus says in John 16;33
---Karin on 10/15/05

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God did not create robots, but creatures with free will to either do good or not do good. For example, if i have 2 portions of food and my neighbor has none, for whatever reason; the good thing to do is to share with the neighbor who has none, but the wrong thing to do is to not share and let the hungry starve even while i relish in my 2 portions, thus is the abuse of free will; and thus the sin-supporters are guilty, and not God who gives the power for all to do good.
---Eloy on 10/15/05

Oh the unfairness of it all. People, God did not create robots, but creatures with free will to either do good or not do good. For example, if i have 2 portions of food and my neighbor has none, for whatever reason; the good thing to do is to share with the neighbor who has none, but the wrong thing to do is to not share and let the hungry starve even while i relish in my 2 portions, thus is the abuse of free will; and thus the sin-supporters are guilty, and not God who gives the power for all to do good.
---Eloy on 10/14/05

Lupe, I appreciate your caution but don't you think you're reading something into my post that isn't there?
---DoryLory on 10/14/05

I had similar questions regarding my own family starting when I was a little kid. Having reached this age, I realized hardhips and sufferings are for our own good! In relation to natural calamities and famine, I understand that nature has a way of maintaining balance and of cleansing the earth.
---bebet3754 on 10/14/05

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6. The reason I answered is because it seemed to me to say that Satan is Sovereign and controlling everything since Adam, which of course he cannot be. God is Sovereign and Omnipotent and what the devil does is only by sovereign permission and not because he is also Omnipotent. He is but a created being. Never an equal to God.
---Lupe2618 on 10/14/05

5. the image of God,(Christ), to shine on those who are lost in the world. It shows the Sovereignty of God in control of our salvation through His light for us to come out of the stage we are in. It teaches that God is Sovereign for verse 6. says, "For it is God, who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."
---Lupe2618 on 10/14/05

5. This verses come from Paul to a direct and slanderous accusation against him, that he was a hypocrite, whose mask of piety hid a corrupt and shameful life, handling deceitfully. The false teachers accused Paul of being a deceiver who was twisting and perverting the teaching of Jesus and the OT Scriptures. What this verse mean is that Paul did not twist the Scriptures, that fallen man were under the influence of the prince of the air and that it took the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ,
---Lupe2618 on 10/14/05

4. In verse 4:2 You will see the explanation of Paul. "We have renounce the hidden things of shame," Renounceed, means to turn away from" or "To repent," and "shame" means "ugly" or disgraceful. The phrase "hidden things of shame" refers to secret immoralities, hypocrisies, and the sins hidden deep in the darkness of one's life. At salvation every believer repents and turns away from such sin and devotes his life to the pursuit of godlyness.
---Lupe2618 on 10/14/05

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3. "whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them." First of all this verse speaks of satan blind men to God's truth through the world system. Without a godly influence, man left to himself will follow that system, which panders to the depravity of unbelievers and deepens their moral darkness (Matthew 13:19). Ultimately, it is God who allows such blindness (John 12:40).
---Lupe2618 on 10/14/05

2. The heavens and whole world is under the control of God. The verse you mentioned in 2 Cor. is talking about the god of this age. Satan (Matthew 4:8; John 12:31; 14:30;16:11; Eph. 2:2; 2 Tim. 2:26; 1 John 5:19, This age. The current world mind-set expressed by the ideals, opinions, goals, hopes, and views of the majority of people. It encompasses the world's philosophies, education, and commerce. The fallen stage the world is in. If you continue on the next verses 4-6,
---Lupe2618 on 10/14/05

Hello sister Dory, I haven't answered your other question and read this one and just wanted to comment on something you said here first. I really don't know where to begin but I will give it what I know to be true. I believe this is a subject that concerns God's sovereignty and really explains who really rules the earth. You mentioned that everything was turned over to Satan by Adam including rulership. Now that can be misundertood as the devil controlling the earth and everything that happens.
---Lupe2618a on 10/14/05

The human race became cursed when Adam and Eve sinned. And it has all been downhill from there. But God allows suffering for His will to be carried out. He also wants us to depend and rely on Him more. The suffering should make you a stronger person and hopefully it will bring you closer to Him. It also says in scripture that we are not to question the mysteries of God. Read the book of Job. Perfect example. Do His will and He shall reward and bless you. In Christ's love, Eric9874
---Eric on 10/12/05

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Tammy - I also have a son who was burned. My youngest son fell into a campfire at the age of 23 months and received third degree burns to the back of his legs. You are welcome to write me if you'd like to ... Dory 7973.
---DoryLory on 10/12/05

God allows suffering because the whole world is under the control of the evil one (1 John 5:19).

God gave dominion, or rulership, of the earth to man. Adam sinned, disobeyed God thereby bowing to Satan. By this act, Adam transferred his God-given authority to the serpent and Satan was suddenly promoted to "god of this world" (2 Cor 4:4). Satan has authority on the earth, the right to wreak havoc on the earth, because of man's sin.
---DoryLory on 10/12/05

While God, of course, remains Lord, He gave the rulership or authority over the earth to man ... He gave it away, it's no longer His. For this reason, God's ability on the earth is limited to man's faith and willingness to allow Him to work. This is why we must pray ... the prayer of faith releases the power of God in the earthly, natural realm.

1 John 5:4 - "This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith."
---DoryLory on 10/12/05

"Many are the afflictions of the righteous but The LORD will see us through"

That is not truth. The actual Scripture says, "Many are the afflictions of the righteous but the Lord delivers HIM out of them all." Jesus was the righteous man God delivered out of all afflictions and we are joint-heirs with Him. Afflictions are not what qualify anyone to be delivered. Believing does.
---Linda_Smith on 10/11/05

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April, I hope that I'm misreading what you wrote. My 2 year old son did not sin and deserve to die from burns over 70% of his body, children do not deserve to be raped and murdered, etc.
---Tammy on 10/11/05

WHY? because of SIN in the world. Christ came and was healing sick and dead people, and people rejected him, rejected the Father. If everthing was great all the time, who you turn to God? That is why Paul said he rather glory in his infirmities, 2 Corinthians 12:9.
---geraa7578 on 10/11/05

Many are the afflictions of the righteous but The LORD will see us through. Maybe we should ask IF we say we love God why don't we follow in His way. Destruction etc.. comes as a result of sin most times,if we do what God says maybe we won't have so many problems.
---April on 10/11/05

As time passes God is being increasingly ignored and banned from new arenas (schools, curthouses, etc). He will allow any measure He deems necessary to get our attention and get us on our knees. His Word says a loving parent will chasten his children, and God is the most loving parent there could possibly be.
---Heather on 10/11/05

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The sacrifice He made was that He became one with us that He might die as us so that He could live His life through us. Jesus' blood taken into the heavenly Holy of Holies was so powerful that it changed the judgment seat of God into a mercy seat and the Lord Jesus Christ now sits (rests) upon that blood which is the testimony of the death of who we were in Adam. We have yet to even begin to grasp all that Jesus did in redemption.
---linda9974 on 10/11/05

Being born of the Spirit changes your nature, your inheritance, and your geneology. God made man to take dominion and express the kingdom of heaven in the earth. Adam had dominion as far as the fish could swim and the birds could fly and when he fell, it affected that area of dominion. The only thing stronger than the fall of Adam is the blood of Jesus, representing the sacrifice He made.
---linda9974 on 10/11/05

God's judgment on that world system still abides and is manifested as long as that world system still operates. That is why a believer can sow to the flesh and reap corruption but sow to the spirit and reap everlasting life. That which is dead lives under the law of sin and death produced by Adam's disobedience. This is why Jesus told Nicodemus, "You must be born again."
---linda9974 on 10/11/05

Suffering is the result of the fall of Adam, not God. This world system is still reeling from that fall and it would be considerably worse had Jesus not did what He did in redemption. If you will take a good look at the cross, you will find both the love of God for man and God's hatred for what Adam did. Jesus bowed between two burdens: God's burden for man and man's burden of sin. He bore the sin (and became sin). God judged sin there and reconciled man back to Himself, taking away the separation.
---linda9974 on 10/11/05

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jesus himself suffered. this was to show example that we cannot live without sufferings on earth since we do not belong to it but are of the heaven. God can stop every destruction from taking place, but if you face something you do not like in your life, you have to look for the reason why it is like that. {maybe to teach you, streangthen you or build certain character in you}
---joea5953 on 10/11/05

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