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Invisible Second Coming Of Christ

The bible says that the second coming of Christ ALL will see him. How can some say His second coming is invisible?

Moderator - It is a statement from some of the cults.

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Those who say that Christ's second coming will be INVISIBLE are simply BLIND to the truth!P.R.
---Pierr5358 on 11/4/08

David there is a church or two in Smyrna, Ga. that John was writing to.
Do you think the messages were just for the 7 literal churches in Asia?
Was the Revelation written just to the believers of John's day?
I never said these churches would be formed in another 2000 years. That is what you alluded to by your snide remark on 10/27.
The Thyatira Church is a Presbyterian Church in Harrisburg, Pa. I think.
Or maybe you think we should disregard the messages to the 7 Churches?
---Elder on 11/4/08

The text "In a twinkling of an eye" means the speed of the change that will come upon us as we are raptured to meet Jesus in the air.Our vile sinful etc bodies will b changed from corruptible to incorruptible bodies in a twinkling of an has nothing to do with the Secret Rapture which is a non event.
---jana on 7/27/07

con't. I know many will say that is wrong so I will quote the scripture for all the doubting Thomas's here. Rev.19:12-16. "His eyes were as a flame of fire and on his head were many crowns, and he had a name written, that no man knew but himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood, and his name is called the word of God. jumping down to 16: And he hath on his vesture and on the his thigh written King of Kings and Lord of lords."
---Lori on 7/25/07

wow, the moderator called christian churches a cult. christians say Jesus returns more than once, not the bible. It says every eye will see him usher in the first resurrection of the righteous. everyone living will be changed instantly. the wicked will have to wait for the second resurrection. christians teach a rapture, many resurrections, Not Jesus one knows when he will return, likened to a thief in the night. He will be dressed in blood red and many will try to hide.
---Lori on 7/25/07

The 3rd Coming of Christ(Armageddon),is when every eye will see Him.The 2nd coming won't be invisible, but will be so quick people won't take notice,until they find some Christians missing. Christians must have the Holy Spirit flowing through them like rivers(the promise of the Father), to be ready/changed at the Rapture,having the Spirit in "part"(which happens at salvation) (John 3:34) won't change a person when Jesus comes back,Jesus spoke this in parables.
---Mrs._Morgan on 7/24/07

We await the rapture or second coming with wonder and eagermess..dying to see our Lord and to rest in Him from all the ugliness of this sinful world..It indeed will be the noisiest event ever where the whole world will see, hear and feel..amen Lord come Jesus
---jana on 7/24/07

In a twinkling of an eye suggests that the second coming of the Lord will not be witnessed by the world. Everything that takes place will be done by Jesus and His mighty angels. When Jesus comes back>>>He will punish the wicked, Receive glory from believers, He will raise the dead, destroy death, gather the redeemed, judge the world, and reward God's people. Also, Saints will be changed to an incorruptible state. I want to add here: Only people in Christ will know of these things. Amen.++
---catherine on 7/23/07

the unbelivers will tell you that it will be a quiet coming..The Bible says it will be a noisy coming..the Trump of God will sound from north to east, sth 2west, the lightening flashing from east to west so shall the coming of God be.
---jana on 7/23/07

There is Scripture that says he will come as a thief in the night. No trumpets. The other Scripture says all eyes will see him trumpets blowing. Both are correct. It just depends why he is coming and who he is coming for as to who will see it and who won't. As with his first coming, there are many happenings in his second coming.
---john on 7/19/07

In CON#4 you say that you think that the call to "Come up!" is a ref. to the RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH.
I don'think so! It is a call to John the Revelator.
Remember last time you thought the RATURE was in ch4 but I looked and it was not there either! Where is it really?
---Pierre on 7/19/07

Elder: I am NOT speaking of "approving" I said to affirm/confirm = stating that He IS JUST and you never had any doubt!
Later on your role as Judge. P.
---Pierre on 11/2/05

Pierre, herein lies the problem.
What happens if I judge that what God did is unfair.
Does He change His mind or condemn me for my thoughts?
If His judgement is right, which it always is, He does not need my or anyone's approval.
I will be away for the next days.
I will answer you when I get back to any other comments.
---Elder on 11/2/05

Elder: Thanks for your thoughts. You did not give me the "job description" I was looking for. So, allow me to suggest:
Even though the individuals have already been declared "wicked" and are dead during the 1000 yrs. there will again be an audit of the judgments during which time we will be able to examine the records of the lost and once again "affirm" or "confirm" that God was fair/just. How do you see it? (your judgeship) all things considered?
---Pierre on 11/2/05

Pierre Yep I had totally forgotten Rev 20:4.
See I don't discount everything you say.
I write to you like I do because I believe you have a good heart as I told you before.
About your question; Every step of God's judgement falls for a purpose. His Purpose.
How do we reconcile evil to people in that day if Satan is "locked" away and is unable to influence anyone?
Cond #2-->
---Elder on 11/2/05

Cond #2-->
Don't misunderstand me people will still be evil and sin but where does it come from?
Since unfallen Angels cannot sin what will we judge except their works?
Mere man does not determine where another will spend Eternity either.
Remember Christ reigning and ruling in righteousness for 1000 years and people still sinning. How? Why?
---Elder on 11/2/05

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Elder: 1 COR 6:2-3
Do you not know that you will judge THE WORLD?
and also ANGELS.
REV 20:4 John sees martyrs who have survived the TRIBULATION and who are given power to judge those who had received the mark of the beast (?) and rejected the seal of God (?)
? = Sunday vs Sabbath.
E don't forget my question! P.
---Pierre on 11/1/05

Pierre, now that the train is back on the track.
I see where the Saints will Judge Angels but not the wicked.
Please show me your Scripture reference to that fact.
During the 1000 years will we not be with Christ?
You will notice during this time Satan and his unholy trinity is held in captivity.
Please show me where we will judge the wicked.
---Elder on 11/1/05

E3 Elder, let me give you a chance to think aloud. The Bible says that during the 1000 yrs the saints in heaven will JUDGE the wicked.
Does it not seem a little late for that? Assuming that you are going to be one of the "saint judges" what exactly will you be doing???
---Pierre on 11/1/05

E2 I would like to suggest AFFIRM or CONFIRM meaning that the unfallen beings will declare his judgment as fair and just without a doubt.
I hope that helps. TBC
---Pierre on 11/1/05

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Point well taken! Before I continue I want to stess thar "I am thinking aloud" seeking to better understand parts of the judgment not given you doctrine.
Now. APPROVE was a bad choice, no question
about it! Why? Because it implies the possibility of God making a mistake. So cross out approve! TBC
---Pierre on 11/1/05

Pierre at lest we are getting somewhere.
I quote your statement of 10/30, "He invites the unfallen beings to audit and approve his list of the saved...." I don't see affirm in this statement.
Please inform us what the difference is in approve and affirm.
I try to put myself in the place of those I deal with. So, if I was you I wouldn't answer my questions either.
Especially the one about Paul in I Pet 5:1.
---Elder on 10/31/05

David 7647, Elder gave two good verses that answer your question. 2Tim. 3:16 Rev. 1:3
---Ulrika on 10/31/05

Elder, I agree. I could not find the verse in Rev. and the one in Timothy I didn't think of yesterday. I believe the entire Bible is relavent today. It doesn't need my name in it, for it to apply to me in some way. It is how we grow spiritually. We learn about ourselves and about God from scripture. It would not be wise to discount the value of all of scripture.
---Ulrika on 10/31/05

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Elder: I followed up my quotes with ref. to Daniel just like you did!
I did not say that Christ' actions had to be approved. I said it was an event 'to affirm' ... That is not the same.
As for the rest I don't think you are in a learning mood, so I won't bother you with the details.
---Pierre on 10/31/05

Pierre, you have quoted E. G. White's teachings, so what Truth do you have?
I didn't discount what Daniel said but ol' Ellen told a lie.
How come you didn't address the questions I asked?
Again who does God need approval of?
---Elder on 10/31/05

Elder: Before discounting what Daniel's prophecy predicted, exactly, I would seriously study the whole matter again and realize that what I presented to you, you have not proven to be wrong!
---Pierre on 10/31/05

Ulrika, as you know, the Bible says in II Tim 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
Rev 1:3 says, Blessed is he that readeth, and they that that hear the words of this prophecy and keep those things which are written there in.
Cond #2-->
---Elder on 10/31/05

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Cond #2-->
Any Church that wants to measure its self in light of Scripture should read the messages to the 7 Churches in Asia, I Cor plus Paul's Pastoral epistles.
There was without a doubt MORE than 7 Churches in Asia. These 7 Churches were on a main route and attracted many people traveling through plus their own congregation.
John was commissioned to write to these churches literally to reveal attitude and attributes to them and Churches of all ages.
---Elder on 10/31/05

Pierre the only one referring to a secret Rapture is you.
Since when did Angels or Humans have to approve of what God does or did?
Does God have some sort of complex that He needs approval of anyone? Who approved Him when He created the world and said, "It is good"?
Cond #2-->
---Elder on 10/31/05

Cond #2-->
If He fails to get approval what happens to his position as God?
Is Salvation of works or Grace?
If your reference to I Peter 4:17 was true then how did Paul know in I Peter 5:1 that he was a partaker of the Glory to be revealed? (PS. This was written before 1844.)
Was Paul "approved" by an unfallen beast as you say?
Cond #3--->
---Elder on 10/31/05

cond #3--->
According to this theory I must repent of my sin, ask Christ to Save me and then at a later date be approved by some angel that agrees that God did the right thing.
This is worse than the Freddie Crugger story by adding to the complete work of Christ.
Yet we see some sit silent on this issue but very vocal on whether on not the 7 Church messages can be applied to a Church today.
Makes you wonder, huh?
---Elder on 10/31/05

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We know Him as our advocate and when we ask Him to forgive our trespasses He does "transmit" our pleas to the Father and together they agree to "wipe the slate clean"! That work goes on every day until the end of probation when our destination will a be set also. I also know that the investigative judgment, according to 1 Peter 4:17 is dealing pimarily with the righteous. It is the affirmation of His fairness and justice to save those who have choosen Him as their Lord.
---Pierre on 10/30/05

Ulrika, we agree in that we can learn from them. This does not mean they were written and addressed to us. All we can go on is what was written, if we veer away from the Written Word through speculation, as others have in this blog, and state that they were addressed to churches today what basis do we have to make that statement upon? What evidence do we have in Scripture that they are addressed to the US? State chapter and verse where the United States is named as the intended recipient please.
---David7647 on 10/30/05

MODcont. The sanctuary service.
We know that the 3 sections of the sanctuary pointed to the 3 phases of the ministry of Christ. The courtyard = Christ' work of sacrifice, the Holy Place = work of intercession and the Most Holy Plac = the work of final judgment. The first two were caled the "daily". The last one was perormed on the Day of Atonement "yearly".
NB> Jesus is not "mediating" at the father's throne for the dead! Their final destination is set. TBC
---Pierre on 10/30/05

MOD: Referring back to the 2300 days prophecy we see that it began in 457 BC and ended in AD 1844 with the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary. This event in the OT, has its paralel event in the NT, Christ work of final judgment, which DANIEL 8:14 says began in 1844.NB. DANIEL 7,8,9 are the "inestigative judgment" chapters. TBC
---Pierre on 10/30/05

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David, In Revelation, John saw a vision. He wrote down how Jesus analyzed the seven churches in Asia. I am not an expert on scripture,especially Revalation. It seems that the warnings and words of incouragement, can be applied to Christian chruches all over, at anytime. All of believers in Christ are part of the church of God. Most of Paul's letters were written to specific churches, that doesn't mean we can't learn from them.
---Ulrika on 10/30/05

The bible clearly states that when Jesus returns ALL WILL SEE HIM, as He will return the same way he left, in the clouds. Its in Revelations. When you read revelations,it will give you other references, be sure and read those too.
---bobba on 10/30/05

MOD: I know what you're saying. I don't think that it is a question of His needing all that time to figure out who is going to be saved, Rather it is a time when in addition to mediating for us He invites the unfallen beings to audit and approve his list of the saved just as the saints will judge (audit and approve) the list of the lost, during the millenium. I must confess that I am a bit ovewhelmed the extent to which God will go to avoid anyone from having any ground to call his judgment unfair!

Moderator - "He invites the unfallen beings to audit and approve his list of the saved " - Please show the scripture and the scripture it started in 1844 and is taking so long. Why would he need to mediate since most of the people have died since 1844 and either one was a Christian or was not?
---Pierre on 10/30/05

Moderator, Ellen White and the Adventist developed a "unique doctrine" called the "Investigative Judgment."
This teaches that Christ began investigating and judging His people in 1844. If they were worthy according their works He would "blot" their sins out. Kinda tells us a lot about this "debate" huh.

Moderator - Maybe this is why when I ask for scripture I don't get any?
---Elder on 10/30/05

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Thiss phase of the pre-advent judgment deals primarily with the revelation by Jesus of the names of the saved to the unfallen beings as a vindication of his right to save anyone who has surrendered him/herself to Jesus!
QUESTION: Is the list definitive: IN MY OPINION, NO! It will become definitve when Jesus ends his mediatorial work and comes back again.

Moderator - I follow most of what you state until you get the 1844 theory. Please state "the scriptures revelation by Jesus of the names of the saved". Doesn't seem to make sense that Jesus has needed since 1844 to the future to figure out some names.
---Pierre on 10/30/05

MODcont. with DAN 8 givin us he exact year, 1844, at the end of the 2300 days prophecy. Next, our attention is drawn to REV 14:7 where the first angel announces that the judgment IS come, not future but in progress since 1844.
During the pre-advent judgment God in fairness and justice for the unfallen angels convenes them to unvail to them the names of the saved and to make clear to the whole universe that he made the right decision in regards to whom he saved.
---Pierre on 10/30/05

MOD: Investigative judgment-What is it?
First a little background: Note that the cleansing of the sanctuary is the parallel to the judgment; in DAN 7, the judgment scene is the event that follows the reign of the little horn; in DAN 8, the event pictured is the cleansing of the santuary. From my study of the ancient Jewish sanctuary, I have learned, however, that the cleansing of the sanctuary referred to the work of judgment (sometimes after 1798) TBC
---Pierre on 10/30/05

Elder: Even you don't say what you mean when you talk about the Rapture it is clear that it is about the secret rapture since that is the only rapture that could be an event other than Jesus' second coming. As for the "quotes" I mentioned, you wrote the exact words I quoted! You did get the 7oth week almost right. There is no part of the prophecy's time table that remains future. The future is now and the investigative part of the judgment has begun. It began in 1844!
To Be Cont.
---Pierre on 10/30/05

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With respects to your thoughts on Scripture, in this we disagree. Paul had addressed his letters to specific people and churches as did John direct his letters to 7 specific churches.

Now... This does not mean that we can not use them to learn from them. There are some general epistles (James - Jude).

Not a point to argue over, just know that you will not convince me that they did not write to specific churches and people. Scripture would tend to disagree with that.
---David7647 on 10/30/05

David ... Do you still not understand? John was writing and Paul wrote to all the churches for all time.
That is what Elder was getting at.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/30/05

Pierre you must be reading something somewhere else or not reading what I wrote at all.
I have never said there is a Secret Rapture anytime. That is your term.
There are many people that are going to be left here that will know what happened and some will still be here on CN debating.
I didn't say The Rapture is revealed between 3:22-4.1 as you claim.
Cond #2-->
---Elder on 10/30/05

Cond #2-->
I said, "I believe that (it) occurs between Ch 3:22 and Ch 4:1," 10/27/05.
The Great Tribulation starts AFTER the Church is gone. We don't see the Church ever again after Ch3:22. So IN-BETWEEN ch3:22 and Ch 4:1 the Tribulation starts. The first seal is broken ch6:1."
Cond #3-->
---Elder on 10/30/05

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Cond #3--->
The sign of the beginning of the Great Tribulation is the Rapture of the Church.
You and your books that you are coping from have the Church going through the Tribulation yet the Bible says in Rev 3:10 it will not.
I wrote what the Bible said and you wrote what was in those books you gave me.
A Cultist is one who gives extra biblical revelation, remember that?
---Elder on 10/30/05

General question:

How is it that people say that John wrote to churches in the US when Revelation 1:4 in the KJV, NIV, JB, Tenoch, GNT, and every other translation that I have read state "John to the seven churches which are in Asia"? Where do we get Pa and Ga from Asia?

Are you all trying to say that John was lieing in specifying Asia? Is there some "hidden meaning" that you need to speculate and read into to come up with cities in the US?
---David7647 on 10/30/05

Alan Part 2

You and I might be able to have an intelligent conversation Alan. These comments are not intended as insults.

Questions for you... Why are there no references in any of the Fathers to your doctrines? Why did they include Revelation in the Cannon if it was meaningless to them while they excluded other books that they considered meaningless?
---David7647 on 10/30/05

Alan Part 1

Alan... Last time I had been through Phille in Pa there were many churches... Which one was it written to? What seperates those churches from Phille in Oh? Show your references in Scripture that states Pa as it's intended audience.
---David7647 on 10/30/05

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Elder: We almost agree! You see a gap where there is none!
1844 marks the "real" time of the end and the
begining of the investigative judgment. God bless!

Moderator - What is an investigative judgement?
---Pierre on 10/29/05

Alan I like you, I am sure, don't really mind being misunderstood it is when people make up their mind to be rude and never look the second time.
That is not what this site is about.
If you will notice there are times I can't even spell my name right.....
Who is this "Eler" fellow.
God Bless Alan we will make it anyway.
---Elder on 10/29/05

econt. The end of the 2300 day prophecy. When?
If you cut off 490 yrs from 2300 yrs you are left 1810 yrs. Add 1810 to AD 34 = AD 1844! when acc. to v. 14 the sanctuary shall be cleansed!
More after a break!!
---Pierre on 10/29/05

econt. This marked the end of the sacrificial system and the nailing to the cross of the ordinances (CL but NOT the ML).
Now for the next 3.5 years after Christ's death the disciples worked mainly for the Jewish people but in AD 34, they sealed their rejection of the gospel by stoning to death Stephen, Acts 7. Persecutions began at this time causing Christians to scatter everywhere and preach the gospel everywhere also. Acts 8:4. TBC
---Pierre on 10/29/05

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Next v.7 we also are told that Jesus would die a substitutionary death for us all.
Now back to the time Jesus was willing to givw the Jews, his children, to get their act together: v 27 7 DAYS (= 7 yrs) Adding 7 yrs to AD 27 = AD 34. During these 7 yrs. the gospel was to be confirmed to the Jewish people. In addition He would in the middle of the 7 yrs. bring an end to the sacrificial system by dying on the cross! EXACTLY 3.5 yrs. after He began His ministry TBC
---Pierre on 10/29/05

econt: The beginning of the 7oth week.
DAN 9:25 tells us that it began when in 457 BC, Artaxerxes ordered the restoration/rebuilding of Jerusalem. Ezra 6:14
Next our attention is drawn to what would happen at the end of the 69th week. We are told that from the commandment to restore Jerusalem in 457 BC until Jesus (Messiah) would appear there would be
7 weeks + 62 weeks = 69 weeks x 7 days = 483 yrs. Adding 483 to 457 = AD 27 when Jesus appeared as Messiah! right on time. TBC
---Pierre on 10/29/05

E3 Now let me take you to the 7oth week. As you
know it is part of the 2300 day prophecy. Danie's attention was called to a period of 7o weeks which was set aside for the Jews, 7o weeks x days = 490 yrs). Remember that God's people were in captivity in Babylon at this time. God was going to give them one last chance as a people to come in line. TBC
---Pierre on 10/29/05

E2 What is the problem AS I SEE IT?
A. You are trying to add to the Bible two events, THE GREAT TRIBULATION and THE SECRET RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH, which are part of a Jesuit construct/invention to divert your attention from two other evenst which are in the Bible: The investigative judgment (1844) and the Great Time of Trouble (persecutions - tribulations) yet to come and THROUGH which the saints have to go. TBC
---Pierre on 10/29/05

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Elder: Thank you for your effort. Let' s check out what you wrote: The Great Tribulation runs from the Rapture of the Church "in between" 3:22-4:1. BUT on 10/28 #2 you wrote The Rapture is revealed between 3:22-4.1 (and you have 5:18 for the Great Tribulation). In essence you have placed
both events between 3:22-4.1 and neither is there! Do you see the problem? TBC
---Pierre on 10/29/05

Elder ... I am pleased to see that I am not the only one whose posts are not read properly, and have assumptions made which totally miss the point!
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/29/05

David ... Elder is right, David. John wrote to that church in Penn. It was also written to Christ Church, Bristol, UK, and a church in a shanty town outside Beunos Airies, and one just down the road from your home. Did you not see what Elder meant?
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/29/05

Daniel ch9 tells us of the 70 weeks.
The Captivity period was at an end. It had lasted 70 years.
Daniel is instructed by an Angel that it would be 70 weeks until the coming of the Messiah v24.
The weeks are understood to mean 70 times 7 years or 490 years.
The date the march of weeks started was at the decree to rebuild Jerusalem v25.
The 70 weeks is broken down into 7 weeks, 62 weeks and 1 week v25-27.
Cond #2-->
---Eler on 10/29/05

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Cond #2-->
Studying closely the book of Daniel we can see the very time that Messiah would appear and the length of His public ministry.
God's timeline was halted at the death of Christ and Israel was scattered.
The last week will pick up at the Rapture of the Church and will run through the 7 year Great Tribulation.
Cond #3--->
---Eler on 10/29/05

Cond #3--->
In the Book of Daniel we see 4 Kingdoms;
ch2:36-40 and then God's Kingdom v44. God's Kingdom on earth is yet to come.
The four other kingdoms are considered to be;
1 Babylonian
2 Persian
3 Greek
4 Roman.
Christ appeared during the Roman Kingdom.
We are now awaiting that last week.
Therefore.... Matthew 6:44
---Eler on 10/29/05

Pierre the Great Tribulation runs from the Rapture of the Church until Ch 19.
---Elder on 10/28/05

David it is time to roll the windows down and let the smoke out.
I have never said the weird things you said I did. They are in YOUR imagination.
Do you think that John wrote to the 7 literal churches in Asia only?
Or is that message for the little church in South Carolina also.
According to Rev 1:3 it is.
You came out with a snide remark on 10/28 "Ok Elder... What state is the Smyrna in that John was writing to?"
You write with a vengeance and that should not be so.
---Elder on 10/28/05

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Pierre this is what I said after you asked when the Tribulation started;
"that starts after the Church is gone.
I believe that occurs between Ch 3:22 and Ch 4:1," 10/27/05.
The Great Tribulation starts AFTER the Church is gone. We don't see the Church ever again after Ch3:22. So IN-BETWEEN ch3:22 and Ch 4:1 the Tribulation starts. The first seal is broken ch6:1.
The Revelation is in chronological order and this is the order of the Rapture and Tribulation IN-BETWEEN 3:22 & 4:1.
---Elder on 10/28/05

E2 I did notice that in your time line you did place the TRIBULATION before Christ's second coming but you failed to tell/show me the difference between the little tribulation(s) and the GREAT TRIBULATION and I failed to find
it "between two chapters" like you write. So my question still stands and I ask you to give me CH+V for the GREAT TRIBULATION.
I will answer your questions on the 7oth week of DANIEL some time this week-end!
---Pierre on 10/28/05

Elder: I am not interested in just arguing. I have gone back and read Rev 3:22-4:1 NOTHING
suggests that the text addresses the Rapture. So my question stands: Where is it? but this time don't bother looking for an answer it is not in the BIble. TB
---Pierre on 10/28/05

Part 2

When Paul wrote a letter to the church in Corinth he was addressing things going on in that church. According to you, no he was not writing to that church but to another church in the US.

Would you not consider this attitude a bit conceited? God only having his people write to you and you only? The Bible is only meant for you in all of History, and you only? Everyone else is just "damned to Hell for all eternity"?
---David7647 on 10/28/05

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Part 1

So you are telling us Elder is that the early church believed that they would not be able to understand the book and they just added it into the Cannon without question?

Your view Elder is unsubstantiated in church History. You do not strike me as one that would believe the Church Fathers were at all believers. The closest that comes to your views are that of Cerentius who was opposed by John the Evangelist (who wrote Revelation) and Paul.
---David7647 on 10/28/05

Maybe this outline (from another post) will help those who are serious and are not here to just argue.

1 Christ Revealed
2-3 The 7 Churches Revealed
4 The Rapture Revealed (between 3:22-4:1)
5-18 The Tribulation Revealed
19 The Second Coming Revealed
20 Millennium and Final Judgement Revealed
21-22 New Heaven and Earth Revealed
Cond #2-->
---Elder on 10/28/05

Cond #2-->
Let's look at the events in chapter 20 in the order they appear.
1 Satan bound v1-3
2 First Resurrection and Millennium
begins v4-6
3 Satan loosed v7
4 Satan's final rebellion v8-10
5 Wicked judged and cast into Lake of Fire
---Elder on 10/28/05

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