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Can The Holy Spirit Leave

A person is saved (accepts the Lord as his savior) The Holy Spirit starts to live in this person; Question, will the Holy Spirit ever leave that person?

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yes the Holy Spirit will leave. it's up to you to get him back and keep him through repentance. these are my feelings through my own reserch. there is so much controversy on this that you will have to search your Bible, pray and through faith God will reveal. don't get discouraged, god works in his time not ours
---stephanie on 5/15/09

I'll never preach once saved always saved, because it encourages people to live sloppy lives. If God is determined to get you to heaven to heaven you shall go.
---catherine on 1/28/09

Jesus promised that He would give us the Holy Spirit, and that He would never depart from us. John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever-
There is also another verse that says that the Holy Spirit will never forsake you, but I can't remember where it is. If you truely believe, then you're sealed with the Holy Spirit, and He is our guarantee! 2 Cor 1:22, 2 Cor 5:5, Eph 1:13-14 You can greive the Holy Ghost, but He doesn't leave you! He will make you miserable until you finally repent though! Lol! Who can loosen the grip of our God? Nothing can seperate you from His love! NOTHING!!!
---Bryan on 1/27/09

1 Cor. 2
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God, that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But THE NATURAL MAN receiveth NOT the things of THE SPIRIT of God: for they are foolishness unto him: NEITHER can he KNOW them, because THEY ARE spiritually discerned.

15 But HE that IS spiritual judgeth ALL things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but WE have the mind of Christ.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/29/08

Mima::JN6:37-I dont know why you do it, but you do, all the time Make light the word of God For your benefit.Why do you provoke truth that was Jesus talking about when He uttered that Verse which you have vehemently denied and belittled in other Posts and now you exclaim Halleujia!This is serious Mima and you play fast and loose with Jesus and His words.WHY?is it for recoginition or what?.If it pains me, how much more does it pain Him!Your creator
---Emcee on 6/28/08

The Holy Spirit is everywhere present, He has not departed earth.
God rains on the just and unjust.
The Holy Spirit is everywhere, around the believer and non-believer. He's around George Bush, Wallstreet, Iraq, and Iran.....everywhere.
---Elder on 6/27/08

Mima, you are corret. The Holy Spirit comes to the hearts and minds of all those who believe. The unbelievers do not have the Spirit in their hearts and minds. They are spiritually dead. When God gives you a new heart, He comes to resides in your heart. Anyone can follow Christ, reject Him later, come to a reprobate mind, but all it proves is that he was never born of the Spirit. And just because a Christian was weak in this life and committed suicide does not mean he lost his salvation. For God gives life and He takes it away. Oh, we all see that the person took his life, but he would not have been able to do that without God permitting it. His act might have been the means by which he was to die.
---Mark_V. on 6/27/08

The Holy Spirit can withdraw His presents from a believer for any number of reasons. Sin [unforgiven] and testings. God might hide His face, and to a believer this has got to be the most awful thing in this world.>>>But you know what? When God is back, you appreciate Him all the more. "I am so glad you are back", I have said this to God before.
---catherine on 6/26/08

To---christi if the Holy Spirit was ever there He did not leave you. For him to have done so would go against the Scriptures that say I will never leave you nor forsake you. Now there is no more sacrifice for any kind of sin than the sacrifice that Christ made on the cross of Calvary. Of this we were certain. Therefore, so if you are in doubt you can go again and asked the Lord Jesus Christ, to come into your life and save your soul. And then be without doubt that if he has accepted you. Because John 6:37 says," any man that comes to me I will in no wise cast out" hallelujah and glory to God that is good news!!!!!
---Mima on 6/26/08

John 16:7 - Why couldn't the Spirit come until after Jesus went to heaven? Jesus had to complete the work determined by God in order that man might be saved and cleased from all unrighteousness. In the O.T. the H.S. did not dwell in anyone, that didn't take place until the Day of Pentecost. The reason being that He needed a clean dwelling place and that did not happen until after salvation was possible. It is only through salvation that a total cleansing can take place. Now, when you are filled with the H.S., He won't ever leave which means He has a forever clean place in our heart - the New Creation.
---Debbie_Jo on 6/24/08

If the Holy Spirit leaves, will He ever come back? Or are you eternal toast? I think He has left me. I don't understand it. I was trying to get out of rebellion and back to God, then I had a vision of being cast out of Heaven and have been dealing with torment ever since. Will He come back?
---christi on 6/23/08

It is spiritual error for us to tell someone that they cannot, that it is impossible to lose your is not true.

You can lose your salvation by committing suicide and you can choose to turn your back on God. Committing this act is turning your back on God.
---lisa on 6/13/08

Devil tempted Jesus to kill Himself.

It is this act of self-murder against yourself that will give the devil a legal right to your soul. The devil didn't gain any power over Jesus but he works daily against weaker vessels.
---lisa on 6/13/08

You can make a decision today to depart from God. You can reject the Son and the Holy Spirit. You can blaspheme the Holy Spirit, you can become of a reprobate mind and you can choose to reject God = Father, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit and you can lose your salvation because of it.
---lisa on 6/13/08

The devil tempted Jesus Christ to commit suicide. The devil can quote the Word of God and he used Psalm 91 to try and tempt Jesus Christ to kill Himself.

Devil tempted Jesus Christ to commit suicide and then mocked Him by saying, "didn't God say He has given His angels charge over you?"

Jesus said, "It is written....", devil.

The devil tempts humans to kill themselves, also. Why? Because you will lose your soul.
---lisa on 6/13/08

No, the Holy Spirit does not suddenly leave. He is faithful even when we are not faithful. We can grieve the Holy Spirit and are admonished to not do that. If we are in sin, we are not in view of what the Spirit is doing but when we ask for forgiveness we are in place to follow the Spirit. The question remains about whether God removes His grace/mercy. If we blasphemy the Spirit, we enter eternal condemnation but I doubt that we were ever saved in the first place for that to happen.
---jody on 6/13/08

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All:In order to have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit there are 2 rules IMHO. FAITH and FREE from sin.The Holy spirit will not reside in an unclean body .HE is GOD,3rd person of the Blessed Trinity.Lev.11:44 JN,15:2-6.That is why The HS overshadowed Mary she was spotless Free fom sin.Chosen by God from Genesis as the woman.
---Emcee on 6/13/08

If I go into a barn and make sounds like a Truck and paint myself like a GMC Jimmy and call myself a truck, would I really be a Truck?
If I call my dogs tail a leg how many legs would he have? Still only four.
Didn't the Bible say that some would "Play the game" so close that the very elect would be confused and believe they were the real thing?
Cond #2-->
---Elder on 6/13/08

Yes God took his Holy Spirit from Saul. God's Holy Spirit never indwelt Saul. His spirit accompanied Saul as it did David of old.
We are talking about two different dispensations.(Of course many people do not believe in dispensations) but regardless of that fact there's a definite division between before Christ died on the cross for you and I and after he died. Today born-again believers must have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
---Mima on 10/8/07

Bryon: When a person gets saved, the Holy Ghost (spirit) automatically comes in that person. They have the Holy Ghost dwelling in them. but have not been baptized by the Holy Ghost yet. That may happen at conversion, but it may happen later. A person can't just ask Jesus to baptize them with the Holy Ghost unless they have a great desire to receive it. Just because a person hasn't been baptized by the Holy Ghost with fire that doesn't mean they aren't saved.
---Rebecca_D on 10/8/07

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If you walk away from God after being saved because of the blood of Christ you are stomping. >>God rarely forgives. Now,here I am not talking about walking away, but I am talking about sin. Sin for a believer will cause God to turn His face away from you. No longer can you feel His presence. Every thing at the moment is bleek, dark, black. You my friend are in SIN. You are in so much trouble. Your answer, well it is isn't pride it is humility.
---catherine on 10/8/07

Did the Holy Spirt leave Saul and didn't the writer of Psalms beg the Lord not to "take your Holy Spirit from me".
---Debbie on 10/8/07

when you accept jesus you are born again. then in order for the the holy spirit to be in you you have to be baptized in the holy spirit john the baptist said "i indeed baptize you with water bout there is one coming after me he will baptize you with the holy spirit and fire" once this happens he will never leave you or forsake you. go ahead and ask jesus to baptize you in the holy ghost and fire
---bryon on 8/21/07

Joe McDaniel - The whole of the Word of God, i.e. Scripture, the Bible, is God's Word and not man's. 2Peter 1:20,21, and Proverbs 30:5,6.
---Helen_5378 on 8/21/07

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I understand very well who Jesus is. But God made that promise to the Israelites. And it is comforting and I believe it. However, it is still not a direct quote of Jesus. And no, I don't need to repent and I'm not going to hell. Jesus said with the same judgment that you judge others, you will be judged (Matt & :1-2)and also it is stated again by Paul in Roman's 2. So be careful what you say to others in condemning them as you have tried to condemn me.
---Gena on 8/20/07

Helen: It's HORRENDOUS HERESY to teach that EVERY WORD in the Bible came from GOD'S Mouth! Do you also think (Isaiah 36:12, ..."that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you) came from the Mouth of GOD??? A TRUE Bible teacher should FIRST Understand GOD AND HIS WORD, before Pushing Over their Opinions, Assumptions and Brainwashed Protestant Doctrines AS THE WORDS OF GOD. Do you also teach that GOD Said "CRUCIFY HIM"? It's IN the Bible, too!
---JoeMcDaniel on 8/20/07

Mrs. Morgan: Yes, Ma'am, I can agree. One MUST be Faithful in order to receive the Promises, and FAITHFULNESS Unto God is OBEDIENCE and PLEASING the Father in ALL things, as CHRIST taught it. However, those who CLAIM Christianity, while living IN SINFULNESS (1 John 3:5-10) are NOT Christians AT ALL, they're FAKERS. According to the Scripture, they're mere LIARS, just as their PAY-PER-VIEW PASTORS who TRICK them with Denominational, Non-Denominational, or whatever other Religious FALSEHOODS!
---JoeMcDaniel on 8/20/07

"Part of being faithful to Jesus is claiming His promises, believing them and standing on them..."

--Yes, Helen_5378 , As long as it's done in Spirit and in Truth (2 Corinthians 7:1)(2 Corinthians 8:9), even the promise of eternal life is determined if one remains faithful to God's Will/Truth (Matthew 7:21-27)(Luke 11:27-28)(Revelation 14:12)(Revelation 22:14), reason why walking in the Spirit is so vital. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/20/07

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Gena - ("GOD said it, not Jesus.") -- Jesus Christ is God. Jesus is the Son of God. If you think otherwise then you are not saved and are headed straight for Hell. Repent.
---Helen_5378 on 8/20/07

JoeMcDaniel - Jesus, who is God, says in Hebrews 13:5 "I will never leave you nor forsake you". It does not matter if the author of Hebrews is unknown, the whole of the word is God's Word, not man's.
---Helen_5378 on 8/20/07

Mrs. Morgan ("Helen_5378, (John 15:4-10). Christians can't claim the promises of God if they are not remaining faithful to Him.") -- Part of being faithful to Jesus is claiming His promises, believing them and standing on them. The promises of God are for His children, those born-again of His Spirit and washed in His Blood.
---Helen_5378 on 8/20/07


Jesus did NOT say, "I will never leave you nor forsake you." If so, then we would find it recorded in the gospels. Hebrews is quoting Deut. 31:4-6 and Joshua 1:5. GOD said it, not Jesus.
---Gena on 8/19/07

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Helen_5378, (John 15:4-10). Christians can't claim the promises of God if they are not remaining faithful to Him. Calvary represents Grace, every born-again child of God first came to Calvary filthy, their so-called works of righteousness = Null, But after Calvary, the Holy Spirit comes into ones life,produces fruits/works,but sadly many fight Him, reason why most of the church is Dead. The works/fruits of the Holy Spirit must be present in a Christians life (James 2:17-20).God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/19/07

JoeMc, God's wonderful promises are for the faithful (1 Peter 5:5b), He don't promise the disobedient/stiff-necked anything but death,only the one's walking in His Spirit,will reap eternal life. God is faithful (Acts 5:29), but most in the Christian world are not. False doctrines that appease the spirit of disobedience plagues the Church today,along with doctrines that teach useless dead pseudo works & teachings (Colossians 2:8), that aren't really of the Holy Spirit.God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/19/07

Helen: PLEASE see the PROPER Context! The Author of Hebrews is UNKNOWN, meaning that "JESUS" DID NOT SAY IT! It actually refers to what MOSES Said to the People (Deut. 31:6), of which GOD REPLIED (vs.17) (For their SINFULNESS) "I WILL FORSAKE THEM." If you'd STOP listening to False Teachers, the ONLY time GOD Said such a thing was to JOSHUA (Josh. 1:5), and THEN (vs. 7-8) ONLY "IF" he "OBEYED IN 'ALL' THINGS". Read "Bad Boys: Organized Crime in America".
---JoeMcDaniel on 8/19/07

JoeMc - ("JESUS NEVER SAID He'd 'Never leave nor Forsake' ANYONE!") -- Oh yes, Jesus does say that. Hebrews 13:5 says "I will never leave you nor forsake you".
---Helen_5378 on 8/19/07

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If you SEARCH the Scriptures, JESUS NEVER SAID He'd 'Never leave nor Forsake' ANYONE! Such GARBAGE is taught by Protestant Pastors who are PAID to say ONLY the NICE things their CUSTOMERS PAY THEM TO SAY!
---JoeMc on 8/18/07

Hello Mark, according to scripture, I must emphatically disagree with you. God gave man free will, He will never take that away from man,if so then we become robots. We are to obey his laws and commandments as believers on our own accord. As a believer you serve the lord with your whole heart by making a conscience decision to do so. You will never be forced to serve the lord, EVER.In the matchless name of Jesus Christ.
---queen on 8/18/07

The Holy Spirit is Holy and will not dwell in an unclean temple, ie,a human body partaking of and/or living in sin. If you are a believer and start sinning and continue in that sin without repentance then the Holy Spirit WILL LEAVE as he cannot stay in filth. You CANNOT SERVE SATAN(SIN) AND EXPECT THE PRECIOUS HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD TO STAY IN YOU, you then grieve him and he will leave. In all of your getting,get understanding Lupe.
---queen on 8/18/07

Acts 5:32, The Spirit is given to THEM THAT OBEY! John 15:14, You ARE Christ's friend "IF" you "OBEY". 1 John 3:5-10, If you Willfully CHOOSE to SIN, you ARE NOT Born of GOD! Protestant Doctrines KILL! Google "Bad Boys: Organized Crime In America", and see how preachers swap the Truth for LIES.
---Religiosopher on 8/18/07

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Statement that's favorite of Eternal S. false doct.followers: "We do not have free will as believers", It's flesh talk,can't ever come to the knowledge of the Truth if one reasons with flesh reasoning in regard to God's Word (1 Tim.4:1-2)(2 Tim 3:7)(2 Tim.4:2-4). No freewill =robot, God's true people are not robots, are led by the Spirit, don't resist Him,are able to grow in His Grace & Knowledge.God said that His Spirit will not always strive with man (Gen.6:3a).
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/18/07

I walk in 100% assurance of my salvation >IF< I walk in HIM

Col 1:22 But now he has reconciled you by Christ's physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation

Col 1:23 > IF < you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I,
the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
---Andrea on 8/18/07

#2. Mima: Obedience is not a option. This is accomplished by the Holy Spirit working in the life of the believer. When a believer sins, the Spirit convicts him of that sin. If he continues, God chastises the believer. We have a Mediator who speaks in our behalf. The Spirit endwells the believer in the New Testament covenant, where in the Old, He didn't. The ministry of the Spirit is different in both ages. We do not have free will as believers, we belong to God and have rules and commandments to honor.
---mark on 8/18/07

#3. Mima: We are saved by the "Grace of God" through faith. That faith comes as a gift to all who are born again. We are been conformed to the image of God, but the work is complete when the resurrection comes, in the day of our Lord. We will be glorified and the work will be complete. Eternal Life in Christ, who is Himself Eternal. Will Christ abandon His children? Never. He never loses any of the elect. Not a one.
---mark on 8/18/07

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Mima, I like your questions. They are sound, and make for good answers to come. Will the Holy Spirit leave a person? If He does, then Jesus Words are false, "I will never leave you" Second, If he does, "does it mean a person that was brought to life, will go back to been spiritually dead?" No such words in scripture. I think when "Never" is mention, it means never. Can a person go on sinning with abandon if he is saved? No.
---mark on 8/18/07

" In fact I heard of a story where God forbade a man of God from praying for another man of God whom He had rejected, even though that man of God had asked for prayer to bring him out from his situation."

If a man is asking for prayer to bring him out of a situation, I would say that it is evidence of the work of God in his life. If he had truly rejected God and been rejected of God, help from God would have been the last thing on his mind.
---Linda on 8/17/07

Faith is counted as good works
---duane on 8/17/07

Ok, you are not Ok. You say, The evil works that reach the cut-off mark, will be rewarded by Satan" I don't know where you come out with that mess. You need a lot of light ok.
---tony on 8/17/07

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Absolutely not mima. Once we are saved the Holy Spirit is always with us. Now,I do believe that we can grieve or quench the Holy Spirit by allowing sin to creep into our life. Jesus said I will never leave you nor forsake you. If you are sensitive to the Holy Spirit, then if you fall into sin then He gently guides you back. But He does not leave you.
---Cynthia on 8/16/07

I believe the Holy Spirit can leave a person. If we refuse to do the will of God and ignore the promptings and move of the spirit, I believe He can leave us. After we depart from the faith and go back into the world(so to speak) we grow weaker and weaker until we lose what we had in Christ. WE become spiritually dead and powerless. Guess what? The Holy Spirit departs because we are basically doing what we want to do and are not listening to Him. Why should He stay around and for what?
---Robyn on 8/16/07

Not only is the answer to the question, "can the Holy Spirit leave a person?", yes, He has actually left some people. But it takes a lot to get to the point where the Holy Spirit would leave, it takes rebellion that God compares to witchcraft. This is what the bible speaks of in Heb 6:6. When one rebels to the extent that the Holy Spirit leaves him/ her, it means God rejects that person like He rejected Saul (SCARY!). For that person to be saved would be like crucifying Christ all over again
---OK on 8/16/07

2) I have seen this happen to few people whoo were once men or women of God. In fact I heard of a story where God forbade a man of God from praying for another man of God whom He had rejected, even though that man of God had asked for prayer to bring him out from his situation. However, the Holy Spirit seems to leave in the lives of many Christians that don't fall into this category, when He hasn't left at all, and has no intention to, and is not even grieved.
---OK on 8/16/07

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3) That's another topic about how the devil can oppress a Christian through ignorance and depression... negating the power that is supposed to be at work in their lives and making it seem like God is mad and cares no more like He used to.

By the way, 1 Cor 3:11-14 talks about people who corrupt their work for God with wrong dividing theologies. It does not say that a person cannot lose salvation based on his/her actions.
---OK on 8/16/07

4) Works will be rewarded in heaven, like it says. Only works that reach a certain cut-oof mark of goodness would receive those reward (the ones that survive the fire), not all works we think are really good. In the same way, evil works that reach the cut-off mark will be rewarded, by Satan, with Slavery to sin that will be consumed in the fiery depths of hell, no matter how long the person had been trully saved. The end is what counts, not the beginning.
---OK on 8/16/07

Nowhere in Scripture does it state the Holy Spirit leaves a person who is saved and a child of God. If you see someone that looks like he lost the Spirit, it is because he never had the Spirit. This is a rediculous question that only those that are in unbelief will believe. The Spirit brings life to our dead spirit, and will never leave the heart of the believer. Can you just see Satan laughing, because he takes the very place that belonged to the Lord? Not possible.
---mark on 8/16/07

After the ressurection of Christ, the Holy Spirit came to dwell, not the same relationship as with David, or Saul.
. He can be 'grieved', but that doesn't mean that He leaves. It's like being in the same room, but not speaking or looking at one another. Upon repentance, fellowship is restored, but relationship is not in question, ie., Eph. 1:13,14 'sealed', 2 Cor. 1:22, 1 John 1:9, John 14:16. That He may never leave you is a statement of a secure salvation, not one of a God who sways back and forth.
---Kevin on 8/16/07

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Lose your salvation? Please read 1 Corinthians 3:12-16. Here is an example of those with no "good works" and yet this scripture says their soul will be saved. Do you maintain your salvation by your works or by faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross?
---Art on 8/8/07

Yes He can and does. This is why we should respect our temple(bodies)by not defiling it with strong drink,smoking,gluttony and so forth. The Holy Spirit lives within and we want to offer Him the best that we have.
The Holy Spirit is a person who can be grieved,become angry, frustrated etc...
---Robyn on 8/3/07

No. Christ has sealed us until the day of redemption.
---Marcia on 8/3/07

Saved is saved.There is no salvation without The Holy Spirit. If the Holy Spirit leaves the person is not saved and the Holy Spirit would have never come in to make its abode if the person were not truly repentant. The holy spirit does not come for a short while he comes to stay.
---Tony on 8/3/07

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Yes, if you walk away from God.
---catherine on 8/3/07

There are devisions in the bible. For instance the old and the new testaments. Before the death of Jesus and after the death of Jesus. You cannot use examples of the Holy Ghost departing in the old testament as proof for departure in the new. We have a better covenant. Not of WORKS, Lest any man should BOAST.
---Mark_H on 8/2/07

If you went too far with sinning, then the holy spirit will leave, but will come back when repented, This conclusion is my own testimony b/c it has happened before and it could happen again, so the answer is yes, and YES GOD GIVES, GOD CAN TAKE IT AWAY. God bless you all
---christian_McKeever on 8/2/07

Luke 11:13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

Rom 11:29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

Once given to live inside you, God will not remove His Spirit. God does not retrieve gifts.
---a_servant on 7/11/07

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Before we knew or understood the Gospel and accepted it we were like tombs with no life inside of us and we were sealed with the mark of the beast because of sin.
---Marcia on 7/11/07

However according to Epesians 1:13 and 4:30 when we yealed to God and accept his son as our Savior we receive his Spirit and our tombs become Holy Temples that are sealed until the day of Redemption. Now when God seals something only he can break the seal. But if he broke the seal then his Promise to his son would be broken and God does not break Promises. Remember Jesus ask his Father to keep all those that had been given to him that none of them should be lost.
---Marcia on 7/11/07

Some are saying Yes on here, some say no because he has something to do with salvation I guess. I just say Pray for Me Please!!! I do not want to sin when he is with me, and I do not want to leave him, and I feel pulled by temptation too! Whoa!! I want to be effective, and make something happen, but not Lose it!
---Brian on 7/10/07

Once we are saved, we are sealed for redemption by the Holy Spirit. HE CAN NEVER LEAVE US. If he did, God would be an Indian giver. When we sin we grieve the Spirit, and suspend His ministering. But He never leaves us.
---Gary_L. on 6/22/07

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If you own God , Who owns you. By Logic and experience the owner is the master of the subject.(The subject in this case being God) If God can be owned by a man, then it is reasonable to assume that the man can be owned by something or someone greater.
---Rodger on 6/21/07

Read Ezekiel 18:25-32 "When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness and committeth iniquity and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die John 15 "every branch IN ME that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. If a man abide not in me, he is cat forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather and cast them into fire and they are burned
---Stacy on 4/10/07

Perhaps the Person of the Holy Spirit will not actually leave, but, only His presence. Again Sin is the culprit. I will let you in on this. One time in my mind I saw the back side of God walking out.
---catherine on 3/13/07

I am mostly talking about true believers who has no intentions of leaving God for good. Sometimes God is just letting His people know that He will not put up with a bunch of shenanigans.
---catherine on 3/13/07

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If Judas freely received power to heal and it was commanded that he freely give Mt. 10:8. If Judas could preach, heal, cast out devils, and have the other experiences mentioned and yet be unsaved and never in grace, should not those who are saved and in grace be able to do as much?
---Cynthia_1 on 3/13/07

Most definitely. "Sin". If you are a true believer, in the Lord Jesus Christ. Sin is the culprit that will cause the Person of the Holy Spirit to move out. Repentance will enable Him to move back in. [True, heart felt] Only acceptable to the Lord thy God.
---catherine on 3/13/07

The Holy Spirit is unique in that it only moves at the will of God. Who is to say when God wants to move away from you, does the Father want to move away from Jesus.
You have no part in the Holy Spirit if it were not for Jesus. Jesus is the hope of the sinner to come to a new understanding with God. The question is are you trying to reach a new understanding. Seek and you will find.
---johnlovesginalyn on 3/13/07

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