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Do We Control God For Healings

When praying to God about healing and being aware of the fact that God is omnipotent can we not expect an instantaneous healing? Were most of Jesus and healings in the New Testament instant?

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No, most healings are progressive. One of the reasons for that is it helps stretch our faith and also God is either doing a work inside us during that time or even working on those around us through our situation.
---Tsuanne on 5/30/07

GOD is sovereiung noit us,if He heals is HIS choice it's not ours to demand.I am deaf and disabled and God has clearly told me He isn't going to heal me,wants my life to show that hE gives strength in adversity.noit al nt healings wwere instant 1 man saw men as trees walking the 10 lepers were healed as they went,probably lmopst instant but not quite.he hadva dr as a disciple for a reason,to look after their health? timothy told to take wine for his stomachs sake.healing is not our rightGod's strength is
---doree4573 on 5/30/07

Yes, the ones that we know about through the Bible. However, God does not always work fast. Infact, God it seems, is rather slow. He may choose not to heal you, or He may choose not to completely deliver you from all of your afflictions so you will learn to depend on Him, which by the way, He is most interested in. Also, God does not always work in ways that humans would prefer. He teaches His people how to go through. And God may even choose to let you die. May God's will be done.
---catherine on 5/30/07

No, because all won't be healed. Plus our times is not God's time. Sometimes a person has a sickness to see where they stand with God, how much patience they have, or faith. Sometimes it isn't God's will to heal certain people.
---Rebecca_D on 5/30/07

6, depending now in God no matter what the outcome will be. As the moderator said, death will come to all, people will be sick, we live in a fallen world and so long as we are here, we will suffer. God moves through desires in the heart of the person that is committed to Him.
---Lupe2618 on 1/27/06

5. "Delight in the Lord, and HE will give you the desires of your heart." He will put His desires in your heart and that is what the desires of your heart should be if you have done the will of God. You see, people think that now as Christians we should do our will only because we interpret something wrong, but living a Christian life we do the desires of God not our own anymore. That is why its His will that will be done through us if we are Saved, and in submission to the Holy Spirit,
---Lupe2618 on 1/27/06

4. Now that you are also submissive, guess what comes next? Whatever you want. I say this because now that you are saved, Spirit filled, Sanctified, Submissive, willing to suffer for doing right, we are doing the desires of God because He is controlling our desires. In Psalm 37:4, "Delight in the Lord, and He will give you," what? "The desires of your heart". That doesn't mean, "Delight in the Lord, and He will give you what you want," What it means is,
---Lupe2618 on 1/27/06

3. that you abstain from, "Sexual immorality." That's God's will. You see God's will is very, very specific. Look at 1 Peter 2:13, "SUBMIT yourselves for the Lord's sake, to every human institution, whether to a King as one in authority, or to governors AS SENT by Him for the punishment of evil doers, and the praise of those who do right. For such is the will of God that by doing right, you may silence the ignorance of foolish men", So now we have to be submissive to God's will.
---Lupe2618 on 1/27/06

2. next verse, "Do not get drunk with wine for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit." Now the first thing God will is to be saved, second don't be foolish and third, be filled with the Spirit. Spirit filled, what does that mean? Controlled by the Holy Spirit. That's God's will. 1 Thessalonians,4:3. Verse 3, "This is the will of God, your," What? "Sanctification." God wills that you be saved, Spirit filled, plus he wills that you be sanctified. What that means
---Lupe2618 on 1/27/06

John,I am going to tell you what the will of God is to us. I will go to Scripture to tell you. 1 Timothy 2:3,4, "God our Savior, who WILL have all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." The first thing that God wills, is that you be what? Saved. Second, Ephesians 5:17, "So then, do not be," What? "Foolish". You see if you don't know what the will of God is you are foolish. Now you say, I am trying to find the will of God, and the answer is in the
---Lupe2618 on 1/27/06

Alan. I appreciate your answer. If you were sick and someone prayed for you and you didn't get well would that really mean that this must be God's will? I have prayed for salvation for people and they didn't all get saved. Is that God's will then? Isn't it God's will for everyone to be saved? They aren't are they? It's not God's fault so it must be ours or the person we are praying for. It's time man takes responsibility.

Moderator - John, I have seen hundreds of healings and am pro-healing and pro-miracles of God. However, it is a false doctrine to say God wants people healed all the time on this planet. FYI, we all will die. We live in a fallen world now.
---john on 1/23/06

Alan, your doctrine says that all we do is pray and then whatever follows determines God's will. That isn't scriptural. The Bible tells us what God's will is. According to the Bible, God's will is always healing. Also according to the Bible, God's will is not always accomplished on the earth. I've said this before ... bad things happen to good people ... that doesn't make it God's will.
---DoryLory on 1/23/06

John .. our prayer should be that God's will be done. If as you say it is God's will that a person should be well, then that will be so. If it be God's will that a person should go home to Him, that will be so.
You doctrine makes most Christians into faithless failures, and it just isn't so.
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/23/06

I was commenting on some comments that some people said about it being God's will to be sick. I'll say again that if you know it is God's will for any of you to be sick then don't try to be healed because you would be working against God wouldn't you? Moderator. No, 100% of the people don't get healed but our job is still to pray the prayer of faith isn't it?

Moderator - If all have not been healed by your prayers as you stated, do you lack faith or it wasn't in God's timing for them to be healed?
---john on 1/23/06

John, What are you saying? What is your point?
---Ulrika on 1/22/06

For those of you who are sick because God wants you to be, I hope you're not taking medication or seeing the doctor about your wonderful illness that you have been blessed with because you need to stay right in with God's plan and not get well. But I've never met anyone like that yet. Everyone will do what they can to get well because that's the way God made us.

Moderator - Do 100% of the people you pray for get healed?
---john on 1/22/06

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To address the title -- "Do we control God for healings" -- no, we don't. We line up our faith with God's Word. Or to put it another way ... we believe what God says in His Word. When the Word says "by His stripes you have been healed" (1Peter 2:24) we choose to believe what the Word says despite what circumstances or feelings say.
---DoryLory on 1/22/06

We walk by faith, not by sight. Hebrews 11:1 says, "Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see". Faith is being confident in God's promises ... if God says healing is ours, we believe it whether we see it or not. If God said it, that settles it. That's faith. That's not controlling God ... that's allowing the Word of God to be in control.
---DoryLory on 1/22/06

To address the question -- "can we not expect an instantaneous healing?" -- Jesus defined His life as fellowship with God. Every moment, He focused His entire attention on what the Father was doing. In a similar manner, the closer we draw to the Father, by fellowshipping with Him on a moment by moment basis, the more we can expect to witness miraculous manifestations.
---DoryLory on 1/22/06

The danger in expecting instantaneous miracles is that it can open the door to discouragement ... which can be detrimental to faith. We need to keep trusting and believing God and His Word and realize that if healing doesn't come the problem is with *us* ... and not with God. Faith is believing that God meant what He said, and said what He meant.

"And without faith it is impossible to please God ..." (Hebrews 11:6).
---DoryLory on 1/22/06

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Rickey ... I meant to say "Jesus came to save us from the punishment of death and not going to be with God. He came to give us eternal salvation" ... Do you say that is worthless?
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/22/06

I have always said about my mom and others I knew that were one of God's and died from an illness. They are a winner either way, whether they get their healing here below or life forever when they go. God doesn't want anyone to be sick, but there is a reason behind the sickness. and we don't know what that reason is. but we must never doubt God on what he is doing, because he knows best for all.
---Rebecca_D on 1/22/06

Rickey ... Jesus came to save us from the punishment of death and not going to be with God. He came to give us eternal salvation.
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/22/06

Sometimes we have to go through things so we can help somebody down the road that is going through the same thing. If it was God's will for everyone to be healed then my mom wouldn't have died from an illness, that left her weighing only 67LBS when she died. She had the faith, but she was tired, restless, she needed peace. It wasn't God's will to heal her. He took her on home.
---Rebecca_D on 1/21/06

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Rebecca, it is God's will for all to be healed. If it isn't then Jesus' stripes were worthless. God is love and He loves for all to be healed. Some people see the healing instantly. I Peter 2:24 let's us know we were healed and just have to recieve it.
---Rickey on 1/21/06

No, because God might be using our illness for a reason. I was in an 8 month long very severe depression in the fetal position and hated every second of it and couldn't understand why God wouldn't heal me, but the illness that drove me into the depression was gone when I got better because my body needed tremendous rest, which it got in those 8 months.
---Wendy on 1/21/06

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