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I am confused. Where in the scriptures does it say that a protestant and a catholic are unequally yoked? Are they not the same in their teaching of salvation? Is Jesus understood as being the only way to heaven for both protestants and for catholics?

Moderator - No, they have very different teachings on salvation.

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Good question. There is no place in Scripture because there are no Catholics or Protestants in the BIble. The believers are called Christians or brethren. Jesus is not understood as the only way to heaven in the Catholic religion. They have several sacraments added to what Jesus did so you can be saved. If you believe in Jesus only for your salvation then you would be unequally yoked with the average Catholic.
---john on 8/30/07

A Catholic ... I am pleased to hear that about how you regard yourselves. But I once met some nuns, who were saying how wonderful it was that some high-up Anglican clergyman had "converted from Christianity to Catholicism" Their words!!!
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/12/06

Moderator :: Lee made the claim about popes. So, your reply is directed to him; But to remind you we are all human & have fallen short of the glory of god. Do you stand in judgement on this issue. Because I don't it is not my Jurisdiction.

Moderator - The Popes themselves make the claim by calling themselves the Vicar of Christ. Sounds like you don't believe a Pope is a Vicar of Christ?
---Emcee on 2/12/06

it is not just rcc who are deceived. many luth bapt prs meth char prot and others are also, exactly as Scripture says- the whole world is deceived, and so a.l.m.o.s.t. are the elect.

Moderator - yj please use complete words and sentences as I don't have time to correct this many typos. Thanks.
---yj on 2/12/06

Emcee I agree with you that "Henry the Vlll,broke with Rome because of his inability to produce a male heir & hence needed replacement wives which was against the doctrine" I made the point myself that was his motive for joining the reformation. But Luther really set the Ref in motion, and HIS reason was largely because of his revulsion against indulgencies.
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/12/06

The Catholic church has many teachings that are not scriptural. If you have children, how are they to know what doctrine to believe. Unless they end up in Catholic school, then how will you reach them with the gospel.
---Ulrika on 2/12/06

Alan, I've been going to a Catholic church for many years and we do address ourselves as "Christians". In fact, the first time I heard that some do not consider the RC as Christians is on ChristiaNet.
---A_Catholic on 2/12/06

Emcee: What does the Great Commission, which was to us all, have to do with your worship of idols? What does the Lord's discussion with Peter to feed the sheep have to do with the worship of Mary, Joseph and others? Why do you pray to those people when scripture is clear that there is one mediator, Christ?
---Madison on 2/12/06

Alan::Contraception is a big issue with the RCC, as becausei t is so rigid.Many have been disallusioned from the need to or not to procreate while still enjoying the joys of this sacred act.I am sure Almighty God understands, but those who willfully deny him his command while able to will pay the price.You want the fruits of his Union Then go about it in the prescribed way. Don't use the fruits of his joy for your carnal satisfaction this would be wrong.
---Emcee on 2/12/06

Alan::History has Many hidden truths that have been hidden hence they cannot be assumed as proof positive. But to give you the BOD this does not justify the making of a new denomination. We give what we can afford.History states emphatically that Henry the Vlll,broke with Rome because of his inability to produce a male heir & hence needed replacement wives which was against the doctrine.not replenishing the coffers of Papal Rome.
---Emcee on 2/12/06

Lee:: Even if the 3 popes had mistresses & children by the information that you have gleaned is it really our concern? they are human & subject to the same accountability as you.while in the process of a judgemental explaination.We were not there to really know,unless you have some biblical or documented proof which may Or may not be true,to further your arguement.

Moderator - It is important because the Popes claim that they are the Vicar of Christ. Christ wasn't a sinner.
---Emcee on 2/12/06

Madison ::Sorry that is your conclusion Jesus's words determine otherwise. Popes did not start Catholicism. Matt28,V18-20 &Jn21,V15-17.he was the same Peter who was given charge to continue HIS church.Why do Christians of various denominations who are NOT in accord yet band together to find fault with Catholics!!The Prophecy Of Geneses3,v15 continues.All parts of the puzzle.

Moderator - How true the sciptures will continue "Matthew 7:13-14 - Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
---Emcee on 2/12/06

Eloy: I totally agree with you on the idolatry. Scripture is crystal clear that there is one mediator between God and man, Christ Jesus. Not Mary, or the other "Saints", just Jesus. It pains me to think that Catholics can kneel before a statue of Mary and believe they are honoring God. Satan has blinded their eyes.
---Madison on 2/12/06

Lee ... yes some of the Popes had quite a "full" life, and it looks as if they did not believe in contraception for themselves! I wonder when it became a doctrine, a bit later maybe. And the Reformation was a real confuser with all sorts of different groups setting up, and sometimes being quite lethal to one another. If it was a blessing, it certainly was a mixed one.
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/12/06

Emcee - while the popes had problems with divorce, history bears out the fact that they simply did not marry but had mistresses from whom they had children. Even 3 of the popes of the Council of Trent, has mistresses as well as children. Apparently they felt that marriage was a sin; but sex outside marriage a veneral sin if even that.
---lee on 2/12/06

alan8869_of_UK - From Luther's writing we find he did not believe in birth control. He also has some Romanists beliefs that he held onto; such as keeping a diary of his prayers to the Virgin Mary. He also believed in her perpetual virginity - something not supported by Scripture. It is easy to see why the other Reformers found disagreement with him.
---lee on 2/12/06

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A catholic is an idolater, but a Christian worships Christ only.
---Eloy on 2/12/06

Emcee # 3 I don't think contraception was anything to do with the Reformation. I'm sure Luther did not mention it (but someone may prove me wrong) Contraception has always been with us, even when most of Christendom was Roman Catholic. Standard cynical Protestant view is that RCC prohibits contraception just to produce as many Catholic babies as possible. I think the RCC quotes biblical support for the ban, but personally I would not accept it. I know many Catholic friend who use contraception..
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/12/06

Joy, Jesus IS the only way to heaven, not only for Catholics and Protestants but also for Muslims, Buddists, Jews, Hindus, atheists and so on. "I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father except by ME." Jesus alone, not Jesus PLUS works or Jesus PLUS tradition or another saviour instead of Jesus. Labels will get no-one into heaven, only Jesus will.
---M.P. on 2/12/06

Emcee ...# 2 The question of divorce was a side issue. Henry V111 wanted to divorce his wife. The Pope refuised to allow this. So Henry decided to use the Reformation, to leave the RCC, and so release himself from the authority of the Pope. By the Divine Right of Kings theory, he became Head of the new English church, and gave himself the divorce. NOt a very uplifting story.
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/12/06

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Emcee ...# 1 Protestants because they protested against what the many doctrines and practices of the Roman Catholic Church, IOne in particular that led Luther to try to Reform the RCC was the introduction of indulgencies, payment of money to save yourself or deceased ancestors from some of the time in Purgatory. The money was used to replenish what the Pope had stolen from Vatican coffers to pay for his dissolute way of living.
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/12/06

Emcee: The protestations in Protestantism are not against the teachings of Jesus, but of the Pope. The Roman Catholic doctrines originate from the Papacy, not Christ's Words.
---Madison on 2/11/06

Alan ::Why did they call them Protestants were they not protesting the doctrines of Jesus & the question of divorce in Particular.& also family structure introducing Contraception. There were always dissenters scribes & pharacees; what about the Ebionites, Marcionites, Gnostics. Did that stop the catholic church from spreading.
---Emcee on 2/11/06

Yes, a marriage between a Catholic and a non-catholic christian can be one of unequally yoked. I have seen the husband go to his church and the wife to another and the children are the ones left to fret for themselves. In Roman Catholicism, the main deity is their Virgin Mary while in Biblical Christianity it is the God of the Bible.
---lee on 2/11/06

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Believers are not to yoke with unbelievers. In layman's terms a Christian adheres to Christ and worships Christ only, but a catholic adheres to cathedral or church and worships many people. Christ is the only true and real salvation for all, but his requirement is 100% total allegiance and exclusive obedience to his commandments as God alone. A follower cannot serve the Word of God, and some other words also. Christ must be all in all to the Christian, and there's no room for some other kind of christs.
---Eloy on 2/11/06

when protestant churches first started, all of the reformation preachers considered the p to be anti-truth(no truth is in him). later, preachers didn't want to suffer, so they eased up on truth themselves. the description is in
the Bible, plain and simple.
---j on 2/11/06

If I give you a coupon for a free automobile from Fred's Luxury Auto Dealer with all expenses paid and you take it to Fred's Luxury Truck Dealer do you think that will be good enough? Hey it all sounds the same...almost. Why would just a little thing matter?
When Jesus says He is the only Mediator between God and man do you think it is the same when you throw in a Priest?
A Priest cannot Save or forgive sins.
So you end up leaving with your coupon still in your hand, WALKING.
---Elder on 2/11/06

Actually, Mima, from what I have heard, in China, the two are very separate. There is a problem generally. There are some such as myself, who accept the RCC as Christian, and there are RCs, like, I think, Emcee and Ruben, who regard Catholicism as being Christian. But generally the RCC does not use the word "Christian" about itself, and most non-RC Christians, at least here, refuse to accept that the Roman Catholics can be Christian.
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/11/06

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Concerning this question here is an interesting fact. While traveling in Latin America, Europe ,and in fact everywhere except China I have heard the people refer to two religions one they call Catholic the other they called Christian. If the common people understand that there's a difference between Catholics and Christians it seems ridiculous that the religious scholars would be blinded to this fact.
---mima on 2/11/06

Joy Protestants and Catholics are not unequally yoked. They are both Christians even though many here state that Catholics are not. Please ignore them.
---A_Catholic on 2/11/06

I like John's answer. I read it very carefully and according to my understanding he is correct.
---mima on 1/23/06

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