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The Pope And Science

The pope just released a statement that science is not a threat to Christianity. That the two can reside side by side. Any thoughts on this?

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When people get healed miraculously by God, doctors and scientist want to try to find scientific reasons for healing and try to dispell the fact that it was just God. They try to claim they must have made a mis-diagnosis instead of giving God credit for healing what was impossible.
---Sam on 2/13/08

I have said this before that true science is the study of God's creation. While both science and religion can be abused, science could only be a threat to Christianity if Christianity were based upon a fraud. Since this is not the case, what have we to fear from any study of science?
---lorra8574 on 4/24/07

Yes ... the Pope is right.
How can science be a threat so something spiritual?
Has the Bible proved that space travel cannot happen? Why are so many people frightened of science, when the only issue where there are clashing views is on the versions of how the world and us developed?
And even on that, more and more people (but perhaps not many on these blogs) on either side are coming to accept that there is not really a clash there.
---alan8869_of_UK on 4/24/07

Clovis Points are a type of spear head found in Clovis, NM, thus the name.

The mantra for archeology has been "Clovis first" meaning that they were the first "civilization" found in North America. New discoveries bring that mantra into much dispute. Frontline on PBS had a special on that last week.
---John_T on 3/26/06

Eloy says many things about Christianity, too!

(its a joke)
---John_T on 3/26/06

catholics say many things about Christianity.
---Eloy on 2/21/06

Archeology? Then what are Clovis points? In physical anthropology we know man was in Europe for at least 100,000 years, long before the last ice age. We have the cave painting displaying Ice age animals. We have the objective DNA evidence. Whats to dispute? I am not now, or do I have any plans to be a Catholic, but considering the body count,(early scientist burned at the stake) the Pope's statement, which I agree with, comes 500 years too late.
---Niki on 2/20/06

Yes, Mike the mood shown by some here does seem to be such that anyone who tried to prove evolution (and I know it cannot be done) would be stoned, not just laughed at.
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/20/06

The pope released a statement in 1998 declaring that evolution was a valid subject for scientific study. If you believe in the pope, then evolution is science. I don't believe either one.
---jerry6593 on 2/20/06

Niki, in your response is part my point. Evolution maybe an intergeral part of science, but if anyone says prove it, don't stand behind them if you don't want to be stoned.
I am an archaeologist, studied under Hianni Schiclioni of Rome University, and if I aplied the same rules used in evolution to archaeology, I'd be laughed out of court.
---mike6553 on 2/16/06

Mike6553, how is science an alternative religion? YOu are 'here' on the net, on this blog, a result of science, then are you not at the alter of science? I worship God in heaven, seeing creation as a manifestation of the divine. Evolution is in intragal part of all the physical sciences. As a science student I see no one here worshiping science books, professors, or holding past science leader as icons. I am told some worship sports teams.
---Niki on 2/13/06

Peter ... I do not think I disagree with you. Kelly says it all, so much better than I did, & I think what you have said agrees with him as well.
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/13/06

Peter ... I do not see that what you have said conflicts at all with what I have said. God gave the scientists their brains, and the ability to work out how to make things and now travel towards the stars, and do triple by-pass operatios. There is no conflict, where God is given the glory.
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/13/06

Folks: This is just a matter of definition but it is important for us to UNDERSTAND what is SCIENCE. Hit on Google and see for yourself.
---Linda6546 on 2/12/06

I believe that God created science. You see science is a progression of things in life that all connect. That's why a scientist has to prove theories. If it doesn't fit, it isn't science. This being said the Pope could have different reasons for saying what he said. We don't know.
---Warren on 2/12/06

Yes, God did indeed create science. He created everything. He is the author of life.
---Kelly on 2/12/06

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I disagree with Alan of Uk. Man gave science a name but God made it all. So yes, God created science (Things that are proven in the universe) as we know it and he also created things that we don't know yet. God is deep and we cannot comprehend Him. We just call it science but God can connect all the dots. He created all things for His pleasure.
---Peter on 2/12/06

I am very glad that the pope released this statement. I always believe that man can be very religious and the same time scientific. As a person who do science for a living, I see no conflict between science and religion.
---Linda6546 on 2/12/06

Yes Bruce, a late realisation!
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/12/06

I wish to react to John W. I learned that man created science. Science is just a tool created and used by man to understand the physical world. I believed that GOD CREATED THE WORLD and man created science to understand God's creation.
---Linda6546 on 2/12/06

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I bet Galileo would be relieved.
---Bruce5656 on 2/12/06

Mike you misjudge the scientist. The space engineer will not try to understand the science of medicine. Scientist know that there is a limit to what each can understand. A friend of mine designs jet engines, and he is a profound Christian, and a Creationist. Do you suggest that in designing those engines for safety, he is betraying a fundamental tenet of Christianity, that science is against God?
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/12/06

True science and true religion are always in harmony, but not residing side by side. The entire universe - all time, space, matter and laws of science were created by Jesus and are subject to him. "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth ... And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." (Col 1:16,17) If a conflict between the Word of God and His science appears to occur, then an error in the interpretation of one or the other has been made.
---jerry6593 on 2/12/06

I have a Pope soap on a rope at home. I think they sell em at the Vatican. That was a piece of science. I'm gonna miss Popo when he's gone.
---Hector on 2/12/06

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This is one of those times when I actually agree with the Pope. After all, God created science. There are scientists that believe in evolution. and there are scientist that believe in creation, and that is part of God's science.
---John_W on 2/12/06

The only threat in the debate is to science, as it is an alternative religion to the truth. Science is as much a religion as any other, you have to take what the scientists say on faith; you get crucified if you dare to question the priests of this religion; you must accept the doctrines and teachings of the scienists, without question.
I'm not talking evolution, but just about any branch of science, where the only ones who understand it are the scientists.
---mike6553 on 2/12/06

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