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Who Are The 144,000

Who are the 144,000? I have heard that the are literal and non-literal. Tell me what you think?

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Rebecca- Read Rev7 where it lists the name of the tribes. Now compare that with Jacob's blessing to his sons in Gen 48 & 49. You will see that Jacob gave Joseph sons a blessing and said that these sons were as his own sons (Gen 48:5). Although Dan received a blessing from Jacob Gen 49:16-17, he is not represented in the list in Rev 7.
As for the 144K, they are sealed to witness of Jesus and of the Torah because they are grieved over the state of the city (eze 9:4)
---Jew-D on 2/16/08

The 144,000 are the 12 tribes of Israel. It explains it in Revelation 7:4-8. A.G. It may be a mistranslation on your part because in Revelation 7:4 it says, And I heard the number of them which were sealed and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Meaning 144,000.
---Rebecca_D on 2/16/08

The 144K are witnesses to israelis and gentiles in the end of days so that they will believe in Jesus and follow the torah. (Rev 12:17).
DAN is missing from the list perhaps bcuz they turned to idolatry. Menassah, Jospeh's son and a gentile (1/2 hebrew 1/2 egyptian) replaced this tribe.
---Jew-D on 2/15/08

Dan. 2' 'rock cut out w/o hands' is a NEW Kingdom that is set up during the time of the ten toes. Dan. 8:14 gives us a time table to figure out the time this NEW Kingdom will be set up. Matt. 21:43 proves this new KOH is not the Jews/Israel. HERE IT COMES: Matt. 24:45 has ONE person left in charge of the Masters Household. He will be feeding the rest of the servants food (new truth) when Jesus comes like a thief.
---Dr._Rich on 2/15/08

cont.- Matt.25 we now see what this NEW KOH is like. They are NOT the bride (even tho at the time they think they are). Jesus delays but finaly comes and the small group that have been feed new truth in Matt. 24:45 wake up all of the ten virgins. Now see Rev. 3 (Sardis) which is the same group as the 10 virgins/NEW KOH. Notice verse 4 that only a FEW are righteous out of all of the KOH. These then become Philidelphia. This is the 144,000 as the first fruits.
---Dr._Rich on 2/15/08

cont.- See Rev.14:5 and see that they are blameless and have no lies. Now see Rev. 11:1,2 and see that ONLY the NEW KOH go thru this first judgment. This is the coming like a thief (not the coming in the clouds). The job of the 144,000 and 5 wise are to testify to the REAL truth (get the Bride ready) during the time of trouble. The multitude standing before the throne (Rev. 7:9-14) is the Bride. So, choose now if you want to be in the KOH or just the Bride.
---Dr._Rich on 2/15/08

144,000 is a mistranslation.
It's actually 144 thousands.
---AG on 2/15/08

Depends upon being JW or a Christian
---John_T on 2/15/08

The 144,000 are 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel. It is in Revelation 7:4-8.
---Rickey on 5/23/07

They are the 12 tribes of Isreal
---betty on 9/7/06

They are the 12 tribes of Isreal
---betty on 9/7/06

The problem with speculation is just that: speculation. It does many absurd things, like trying to put ten toes on one foot of the statue, or naming 666 or writing books that give 88 reasons why Jesus will come in fall, 1988.

Such things make Christians look like Yahoos' because they actually fight about unknown things.

Deut29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever...
---John_T on 2/28/06

According to Rev:14:4 in the NIV, they will all be male virgins.

Leaves many of us out, doesn't it?

It also is sort of a disincentive to strive to be one of them. LOL
---John_T on 2/27/06

Eloy, why must you use numbers to complicate things? The disciples don't have anything to do with the 144,000. Very simply, it's 12,000 men from each of the 12 tribes of Israel.
---Ann5758 on 2/18/06

I also disagree with Phil the Elder because the question was only about the 144,000. The verse says quite clearly 12 thousand from each of the 12 tribes of Israel, which makes 144,000. It then adds 'and multitudes which no man can number'. The 144,000 is very specific but there are also many more (and this might be what Phil refers to).
---emg on 2/14/06

I agree with Rickey. He has the verses right too.
---Ulrika on 2/14/06

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I agree with Rickey. The 144,000 is explained it the book of Revelation.
---Rebecca_D on 2/14/06

In the O.T. Jacob (Israel) had 12 sons who generated the 12 tribes of Israel, and in the N.T. Jesus had 12 Apostles regenerated to propagate the gospel of Christ; and God's number referring to heaven is 1000, thus 12 by 12 is 144, and 144 by 1000 is 144,000.
---Eloy on 2/14/06

Read Revelation 7:12 - it states that the 144,000 are from the 12 tribes of Israel. Now, if you want to "muddy the waters" you can say, it is really a number that is diveded by 12 and this represents Israel in general, or some claim it can be expanded to represent both gentile and Jewish Christians. But, the Bible states the 144,000 are from the 12 tribes, so I'd let it go at that.
---WIVV on 2/14/06

I disagree with Phil the elder, the number 144,000 is exact. Scripture uses the number, scripture was inspired by the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is not having trouble with numbers. When an exact number is given that number is to be taken literally. Example thousand year millennial kingdom means, lo and behold, 1000. Not some vague indefinite number Funny huh?
---mima on 2/14/06

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The number should not be considered a limiting factor but rather an expression of high magnitude. Using 12 the number of the Tribes of Israel squaring it and multiply it by 1,000. The ordering of the tribes is insignificant. also remember that the names comprising the list change from location to location in scripture. So don't get lock into a finite number the author is just expressing an exceptionally large number of persons.
---Phil_the_Elder on 2/14/06

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