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Unrepented Sin Unforgiven

Is sin unrepented of unforgiven sin? Another words is God waiting for our repentance of a sin in order to forgive that sin?

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Have you not read that the priests desecrate the Sabbath yet are innocent? and that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath?

People also sin accidentally, as well as unintentionally, and people sin out of ignorance, not knowing right from wrong and not knowing better. Not every sin is deliberate. There are unavoidable sins as well such as addressed in Matthew 12:5. Who is the perfect man who doesn't sin? How are we to confess all of our sin?
---mike4879 on 1/26/17

First Off, Repentance Is Not The Same Thing As Forgiveness, Repentance Means To Turn Away From Sin, Jesus Has Already Paid The Price For Our Sins When We Except Him As Lord And Saviour NOT ONE PLACE Does It Say That After We Get Saved That We Will Be Judged For Anything Except What We Have Done To Advance The Kingdom Of Heaven. The Reason That We Ask For Forgiveness Is That Sin Separates Us From Christ And We Can Not Be Close To God With Un-repented Sin In Your Life, Not That We Will Be Judged For It, Jesus Shed His Blood At Calvary To Pay For Our Sins. He Did Not Die For Our Sins And Then Say But If You Sin After The Cross You Have To Ask For Forgiveness Or You Will Be Judged , He Said It Is A Gift Less Any Man Should Boast. Amen .
---David on 10/12/16

We are taught from an early age that we are to strive to have Gods qualities and we are called to resemble Him. Everyone who knows the Bible is taught that His forgiveness is contingent on your repentance. We must first turn to God, and humbly recognize our sin, submit to His will and he then forgives us. On the other hand, he says that we are to forgive and turn the other cheek. The church teaches everyone that we are commanded to forgive, even when the other party has not repented of their sin again you. So why am I expected to forgive someone who has not repented, when God will not? Maybe the forgiveness God gives is not the kind of forgiveness He demands of me? Why does there seem to be a contradiction?
---Vanessa on 6/1/09

...The blood of Jesus Christ HAS forgiven us.
Heres a question...Can a saved Christian be unforgiven? ..If the answer is yes, then the wages of sin is death. No salvation, lost
Any comments??
---duane on 5/29/07

Gary, your answers are thoughtful, but are you sure you heard that in prayer?
---Jenny on 5/29/07

2 Corinthians 7:10
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

Worldy sorrow is a sorrow void of repentance.

Revelation 2:5
Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
---Matthew on 5/29/07

Jesus tells the Church in Thyatira... (Revelation is quite clear they are believers in Christ with knowing and appreciating their charity,deeds and works etc..)

Revelation 2

21And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

22Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

---Matthew on 5/29/07

23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
---Matthew on 5/29/07

4) Jesus gave this parable to His apostle Peter.

Matthew 18:
23Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.

24And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. ....

26The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

---Matthew on 5/29/07

27Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.

28But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he...took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.

29And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

30he...went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.....

---Matthew on 5/29/07

32Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:

33Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?

34And his lord...delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due....

35So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

---Matthew on 5/29/07

8)1) The Lord forgave His servant of an evil deed. This rules out the unsaved.

2)Jesus was speaking to Peter.

Can you find "we are automatically fogiven" in the Bible?

Does the Spirit telling you it's truth pass the word test?

1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God..

Matthew 6:15
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
---Matthew on 5/29/07

No, it does not.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
---Matthew on 5/29/07

If to be forgiven a person must repent of every sin, yet is unaware of some of his/her sins, we are all doomed to hell!!!! If Jesus did not pay for and forgive all sin on the cross we are hopelessly lost!!!! As duane the says, why do we ask for something we already have? Perhaps a better approach would be to praise God for what we have and for what he has done for us.
---Mima on 5/29/07

Gary, your blog is truth mixed with error. True, Jesus will forgive sins past present and future. False to say they are forgiven without repentence. why did Jesus say not all those that cry Lord Lord will inherit his kingdom. They were saved, they glorified him every day. The problem, they thought they were saved with no effort on their part and that is false doctrines of satan to lull you into a false security. You want to pass the judgment, repent every day of every sin and never do them again.
---ashley on 5/28/07

Duane, so you don't ask for forgiveness when you know you've done something wrong?!

Gary, your conversation with God was beautiful, but He didn't say that unrepented sin will be forgiven. Whether or not you ask, if you are still harboring the lust of sin, then you are still guilty, otherwise you are forgiven if you trust God. But then there are different degrees of sin...and there is sin unto death, where you really need to repent and confess to him outloud for mercy (1 Jn 5:16) such as adultery
---Okebaram on 5/28/07

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31 I asked God this very question a few days ago when in prayer. It was the most blessed time I had with Him. It was a though I was sitting across the dining room table from Him and we were just talking about things. I asked Him if we needed to ask forgiveness for every sin we commit after we are saved. He told me that after we become saved, all of our sins, past, present and future, were forgiven on the Cross when we were crucified with Him 2000 years ago.
---Gary54 on 5/28/07

#2 What we do have to do is judge ourselves. He wants us to take a look back over our day and see whether we were walking in the Spirit or in the flesh. If we were in the flesh and said or did something unpleasing to Him, judge it immediately, and then give it to Jesus and let Him take care of it. Then all that is left is to praise the Lord and go on in Him, in the fullness of His grace and mercy.
---Gary54 on 5/28/07

Its hard to believe what most here believe.
We are forgiven always, forever.
What do you people think the blood of Christ is for? While we were still sinners
He forgave us.
Jesus took sin away, He didnt cover sin
---duane on 5/28/07

You have to ask forgiveness or your not forgiven???? We ARE forgiven, we dont ask for someting we already have.
While we were still enemies and sinners, He forgave us. He forgave us before we had a chance to even ask.
---duane on 5/28/07

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After the cross, there is no (repent of sin to be forgiven). Show me the verse.
Pure nonsense and lies
---calhoon on 5/28/07

When God looks at us He doesn't see "us, who we are without redemption" instead He sees the finished work of Christ. We are covered with the blood of the Lamb and that is what He sees. I believe that in Him we are frogiven our sins past, present and future. Now, I also believe the Spirit of God would not allow any of us as His children to go without confessing their sins or their need to.
---douglas on 5/28/07

God can only forgive you if you repent.
---Leslie on 1/3/07

Funny that I read this blog today. Charles Stanley just talked about this very subject today. He said that we have to repent to resume our Fellowship with God. But that Jesus Christ died on the cross for all of our repented and unrepented sins. We will be disciplined for our sins though. And by the way, none of us are perfect and we are all sinners. Do you really think that everyone will remember to repent every single sin??
---Karen on 6/6/06

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"The obedient to him is not judged; but the not obeying already has been judged, that not obedient to the name of the single-sired Son of God." John 3:18. If a person says they are saved, but they live as the unsaved, then they are deluded and are not really saved: the saved do the works of Christ, but the unsaved do the works of sin.
---Eloy on 2/25/06

We should always be wanting to repent. But I see the people who nailed Jesus to the cross didn't and Jesus said "Father, forgive them" There are many other places in the Scripture were forgiveness is given before apologies and repentance. If our brother sins 70 times 7 in a day we are supposed to forgive him. God will do the same for us. But if we don't want to ask for forgiveness or repent I think there is something wrong.
---john on 2/25/06

Eloy, are you stating that there is condemnation to those that are save? Just a simple question.
---Lupe2618a on 2/24/06

God does not forgive sin in operation, he cannot bless sin. It's not so much that God is waiting for a person to repent so that he can forgive them, but rather the sinner is already in condemnation unless they repent. There is absolutely no forgiveness without ceasing from sin, as long as a person continues in sin they are damned and continue to be separated from God. God is ready to forgive the disobedient, but he cannot forgive anyone who refuses to return to him and his righteousness.
---Eloy on 2/24/06

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John, what makes you ask your wife for forgiveness is the Spirit of God convicting you to ask. If you were not save you would brush it aside and do it again and again. When someone is save he, the save person, has Christ to influence his walk and bring conviction to his heart. That is why there is no condenmation to those who love Christ. Good deeds follow someone that is saved. When someone has no repentance he does not have Christ. Jesus says, " I will be with you always" a promise.
---Lupe2618 on 2/24/06

Ulrika, I am with you on this point on Matt. And with John's answer too. I believe the people that answer here that are always against losing salvation, or other things always look at the work they can or cannot do, but a Christian has Christ to convict him and he will repent. The lost don't have that so they never repent. It is because of the Spirit living in us that we are able to repent when we do sin and be right with God. Without Him we have no conviction, so no repentance.
---Lupe2618 on 2/20/06

pt 2: If I do something to offend or hurt my wife, I apologize, and make a consience attempt to not do that again. If I do something to cause her pain, BECAUSE I LOVE HER, it causes ME pain. This is the way it should (and WILL) be with those who are TRULY followers of Christ. If you do something that you KNOW causes him grief or pain, you WILL repent, and not casually blow it off with a "oh well, no big deal, it's already forgiven" attitude!
---John on 2/20/06

But in your heart, if you've TRULY believed in Jesus Christ as your Savior, then there will be a change. You will NOT continue in sin. BUT if you should, because of weakness in the flesh, fall to temptation and commit a sin, the conviting power of the Holy Spirit within you will bring you to repentance.
---John on 2/20/06

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John, I think in Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus is talking about people who talk and act like believers in Christ, they are religious, and have good works, but in their heart they have not believed in Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. They are hoping their wonderful works will save them.
---Ulrika on 2/19/06

pt 2: It's like if you got stopped for the first time for speeding, and the policeman lets you off with just a warning. Then you squeal off thinking you can drive however fast you want to from THEN ON with no consequences just because you were excused for the first offense.
---John on 2/19/06

David: yes, he DID bear our sins in his own body and reconcile us to God. He did the work we could not do for ourselves. But that has NO effect on those WHO DON'T ASK FOR FORGIVENESS. There's no way I could even begin to list all the scripture that proves your lame OSAS belief is invalid. It makes no sense whatsoever.
---John on 2/19/06

John, - Yes Jesus did provide a new way, he also bore our sins in his own body (Col. 1:20-22)and reconciled us us to God. The old testament sacrifices and sin offerings were a "type" or picture of what was to come - The Lamb of God that would take away the sins of the world. It is not a free ticket to sin as you have so ignorantly put it, but a wonderful grace that God has bestowed to everyone that believeth.
---david7477 on 2/19/06

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CONT: When someone loses their fellowship with God (backslide), to get back with God they will have to start fresh, they can't pick up where they left off with God. Meaning they would have to start a whole new relationship with God. The reason we ask God to forigve us from our sins is because no unrepented sin will enter into heaven. The bible says ask and ye shall recieve. You can't get forgiveness if you don't ask.
---Rebecca_D on 2/18/06

Mima, Luke 7:47-48, 1 Jn 1:9 We can't confess future sins, because we haven't sinned yet. the bible talks about secert sins, you need to read up on this. The bible also says that if we sin, we confess our sin and it shall be forgiven, for we have an adovate that goes to the Father on our behalf. If a person knows they are sinning, and don't ask for, forgiveness then you lose fellowship with God. When a person loses their salvation they're is no rewards. You lose it all.
---Rebecca_D on 2/18/06

David- "Our sins were judged when Jesus took them to his cross. -- Before we were ever born!" ???

A new heart and a way of escape was what Jesus provided for us on the cross. You make it sound like Monopoly! "DO not pass Calvary! Collect a sin-all-you-want pass! Get of hell free card!...."
---John on 2/18/06

Ulrika: 1 John 1:9 says "IF" we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us..." Matt 7:21-23 proves that those who think they're saved because they once asked Jesus into their heart and now they do a lot of 'religious stuff' are not ALL going to make it
---John on 2/18/06

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Rebecca D, Where in scripture does it say God can not forgive someone, if they have not asked yet?
Where does it say God only forgives only the sins before salvation?
After we are saved, we need to confess each sin.
Then what happens if you over look a sin?
Do we loose our fellowship with God?
Do we die, but not loose our salvation?
Do we loose rewards?
Do we loose our salvation?
---Ulrika on 2/18/06

Our sins were judged when Jesus took them to his cross. -- Before we were ever born! When we sin, this sin separates us from fellowship with God and repentance restores that fellowship. Read 1John 1:9 - yes, God does expect us to repent so he can forgive. But don't confuse "sin"(an act) with "sin nature". Jesus saved us from the bondage and penalty of sin and we have been forgiven of our sinful nature when we accept him as Lord and Saviour.
---david7477 on 2/18/06

Mima; God cannot forgive someone if they have not asked yet. Meaning he can't forgive us for our furture sins because we can't ask for forgiveness for things that we haven't done. I don't know what I will be doing in the next year or day or hour. God does, but I don't know when I will sin, and as long as I am in this flesh I will sin. But after I sin that is when I need to ask God to forgive me. You can't ask him to forgive you for something you have not done yet.
---Rebecca_D on 2/18/06

Mima, c'mon. You don't seriously think that the Lord saying he was sorry he ever made man is the same thing as us, SINNERS, repenting from sinful acts against him, DO YOU??? Are you REALLY putting the one true and living Jehovah God Almighty in the same category as us lowly maggot-like puny human beings???
---John on 2/17/06

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Well John I'm going by the Scriptures; in Genesis chapter 6 verse 6 it says," and it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved Him at His heart". But as you and I well realize, He did not stop making men. Therefore though the Lord repented, He did not turn(change direction, never to do it again) from making men
---mima on 2/17/06

The reason we are to ask God for the forgiveness of our sins is in order to clear our own conscience

Mima- TO CLEAR OUR OWN CONSIENCE??? You MUST be joking, to lower the act of repentance before a Holy God and asking that the precious blood of Jesus remove the stain of sin from our hearts, to THAT level.
---John on 2/17/06

exactly MP. I think (I hope) we're pretty much saying the same thing. But the danger is, a lot of people do not fully understand the 'forgiveness of future sins' the way you seem to.
---John on 2/17/06

cont'd...If we continue the same things God has forgiven us for, we were NOT truly repentant. Repentance means to TURN AWAY FROM. When Jesus forgave the woman caught in the act of adultry, he told her to "go, and SIN NO MORE". Not to say we won't stumble and fall from time to time, but to just casually 'apoligize' for all our past sins and think we don't have to change and continue on our merry sinful way as always, is an insult and slap in the face of God
---John on 2/17/06

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MP- the question I posed meant to examine the motives of the adulterer- NOT the ability of the wife to forgive and forget. No human has the capacity of that like God does, that goes without saying. In this situation, the adulterer was never sorry the first time she caught him, or he would not still be carrying on the affairs. The PROOF OF OUR REPENTANCE is that we go on and do not intend to repeat the same offense.
---John on 2/17/06

We get forgiveness for what God forgives us for, now we know He forgives us for future sin because of his foreknowledge, which would include the knowledge of all your sin from the beginning to the end.The reason we are to ask God for the forgiveness of our sins is in order to clear our own conscience. For he has already forgiven us( and the whole world if they will except it) back at the cross.
---mima on 2/17/06

John, that is because we are not Jesus. He can forgive past, present and future sins, not only that, he can forget them as well. We are human beings and we cannot. Besides which, the scenario you give is about wilfully sinning just because we have previously been forgiven. We know as Christians that we do sin but we should not wilfully sin on the basis that we have already been forgiven. If we do it is probably because we have not truly repented anyway (and that being the case we are not forgiven either).
---M.P. on 2/17/06

Think about this: Your husband has an adulterous affair that you find out about. You forgive him and take him back.
Several months later, you walk in on him having another affair. He is surprised that you're upset, and says "But, you forgave me- didn't that cover all the affairs I intend on having in the future? I'm free to sleep with whoever I want, right???" Does that make sense? How do you get forgiveness for something you haven't even done yet, much less asked to be forgiven for?!
---John on 2/17/06

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Yes, God cannot forgive us if we don't ask him to.
---Rebecca_D on 2/17/06

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