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If you keep falling away from God, are you saved or not?

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 ---Dee on 2/21/06
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Dee, what do you mean by falling away? Do you mean he is lost now, but still saved? He is losing salvation? He is on the process of becoming an unbeliever? Where is this person at, in your question? Sinning as a habit? one or two sins, maybe a sin that he didn't want, but still commited? how many? Which one do you think takes him down completely? Can you make your question more clear?
---mary on 5/7/07

Sometimes we correct others with the wrong desire in our hearts. It happens a lot in our lives. We know what they mean, but we look to make it known so that others see that persons mistake, for reasons of their own. When someone does it for the wrong reason or desire, it is sin, if the desire is not for Christ to begin with.
---mark on 5/6/07

A person who is saved still battles the flesh against the spirit. We all fall at one time or another. When Christ died on the cross, he sealed me forever. My life now is eternal and that is forever.
---shira on 5/3/07

Rebecca: I still want to know what's going on inside Dee's mind. But in general, 'backsliding' was created by churches wishing to see everyone who says a simple prayer as Beleivers from that point on and won't consider they may have never been saved. Christians who sin should feel guilty even 'torn up inside' over what they've done without anyone else knowing (or even being able to if it was sinful thoughts). Unsaved usually aren't bothered that way.
---Daniel on 2/27/06

Daniel, I am not Dee, but I think she is meaning when someone who keeps backsliding from God, are they still saved? Herb, that was a good example, a good way to put it, simple and so true.
---Rebecca_D on 2/25/06

Dee: I wish you could elaborate on what you mean by "keep falling away"... If you mean doing something you know is against what God says in Scripture (and feeling 'guilty' about it), that's sin. But do you mean something else? Have you ever thought Scripture was a lie? Ever told someone God doesn't exist? Do you then much later on pray to Him to SAVE you again? Please explain.
---Daniel on 2/24/06

Let's keep in mind God has a free-will of our salvation also. God must change His mind because He is dealing with self-centred mortals who often get so wrapped up in their own petty problems that they neglect to listen to God. Because of our inability to be led, God must keep on finding alternatives to our lack of action. (p.s. Alan this is just a statement in general, so go easy on me!) Love ya bro!
---Fred_S. on 2/24/06

Gerardo, Christ came to save mankind, not demons.
---ralph7477 on 2/24/06

I'm not sure that any of that helps!! Probably not.
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/24/06

There are three purposes of punishment, at least in secular terms:
Prevention (to excecute or imprison removes the person from being able to offend again)
Example ... the punishment mnay discourage others
Retribution, getting one's own back may make the victim feel better.
In that context, I think Herb's comment has validity.
Punishment by God when we are judged would seem to be retribution
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/24/06

James 2:19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that and shudder.
20You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? 21 Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did.

Since demons believe, are they saved?
---gerardo on 2/24/06

James 2:14 What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
---gerardo on 2/24/06

The prodigal son must have been a fable to rev herb. I'm Gods child and I have fallen, but I know who's my daddy, and He knows me.
---Lynn on 2/23/06

Your post would indicate that you believe that God punishes us. If so, where is the beneift of the cross in this life? Isa 53:5,

Correction, direction, guidance, training, leading, nurture - all these are embodied in the concept of "chastisement" as spoken of in Heb 12:7-8 But punishment?? I think not. Rom 8:1
---Bruce5656 on 2/22/06

If my child breaks the rules, I punish him. If the neighbors child breaks the rules, I do not punish him. So if you break God's rules and He does not deal with you about it, guess what, you are the neighbor's child.
---Rev_Herb on 2/21/06

If your child keeps breaking your rules does he stop being your child?
---Madison on 2/21/06

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