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Anti-Christ Or The False Prophet

Will a future Pope be the Anti-Christ or the False Prophet?

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//they insert "other"//- strongaxe.

If you want to see a classic example of Bible tampering- look at the trinitarian insertion at 1 John 5:7,8. This will really stick in strongaxe throat.

Trinitarians insert: "in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth."

This Trinitarian insertion does not appear in early Greek Manuscripts. In fact, Erasmus excluded those words from his first two editions of the New Testament because none of the Greek manuscripts he consulted contained them. He was later pressured by the church to include them in his third edition.

I detect the stench of hypocrisy waffting from strongaxe.
---David8318 on 10/23/17


//The context does not allow for the word "other"//- loony1.

I disagree, and so does the NIV, NLT, ESV, NASB, NAS who use "other" in 1Corinthians 6:18. Context at 1 Cor.6:18 does agree with the use of "other" because the contrast is being made with sexual immorality, which is a sin against the body. "Every other sin [in contrast to the sin of immorality] is a sin outside the body". The use of "other" at 1 Cor.6:18 is legitimate even though "other" does not appear in the Greek.

The same inflected form of the Greek word used at 1Cor.6:18 is found at Col.1:16 ['panta'].

JW's use of "other" at Col.1:16 & 1Cor.6:18 is legitimate.
---David8318 on 10/23/17


Loony: According to the Catholic teaching, everyone in purgatory will eventually get out anyway.//

CORRECT!

Everyone in Purgatory are Saved.

Few go straight to Heaven immediately after death.

Not all souls are perfect enough for Heaven upon death, or made an accounting for every bad work or action done on earth.

So people spend different about of time (bad word for me to use since there isn't time after death, but the only word I can use) in Purgatory based on their behavior on earth.

Matthew 12:36
But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/23/17


Loony1:

Perhaps you didn't read all I wrote:

Please see below:


Sir, these verses are descriptive and not Prescriptive.

Prescriptive meaning this isn't litteral or how it will be.

To state again Matt 25 referencing feeding and clothing is not, "Prescriptive." Its, "Descriptive."
---john9346 on 10/23/17


According to the Catholic teaching, everyone in purgatory will eventually get out anyway.
---Loony1 on 10/23/17




John9346

I agree with you.

The Matthew 25 passage is indeed a prescription. Jesus prescribes "age-lasting pruning" (literal translation) for those who fail to do good works.
---Loony1 on 10/23/17


David8318:

*I* am not the one choking on a gnat here. It is the Jehovah's Witnesses, who dissect scripture to sub-atomic level to alter it just to prove a theological point, just to differ from almost every other Christian on the planet.

I'm curious why the ONLY CN discussions I see on are ones where Jehovah's Witnesses have markedly different theological beliefs from everyone else? Why is it that 99% of Christian doctrines that everyone (including Jehovah's Witnesses) DO agree about don't seem to concern you, only 1% where we disagree?

You accuse trinitarians of altering translations (honestly, how many translations use "other" in EITHER of those cases?) to suit their dogma, when JWs do exactly the same thing!
---StrongAxe on 10/23/17


Susan Tassone raises Two million to get souls out of purgatory.
Author Susan Tassones passion is to get people out of purgatory. Since the Roman Catholic Church accepts money for Masses said for the dead, Ms. Tassone urges people to hand over their last will and testaments over to the Roman Church to get people out of the burning fires of purgatory.


Things haven't changed ......one of Luthers 99 indictments against the RCC.
---kathr4453 on 10/23/17


david8318 states, "Christ is not the creator. Rather, God is creating through Christ, and for him."

But this is a contradiction because YHWH/Jehovah states, "
This is what Jehovah says, your Repurchaser, Who formed you since you were in the womb:

I am Jehovah, who made everything.

I stretched out the heavens by myself,+
And I spread out the earth.+
Who was with me?" (NWT)

In this verse YHWH/Jehovah saids he created by himself

Paul writing by the Holy Spirit in Col 1:16-17 would have known to insert "Other." would be "Blasphemy."


---john9346 on 10/23/17


loony1 states, "Here is what Jesus says about people who do not do good works."

Sir, these verses are descriptive and not Prescriptive.

Prescriptive meaning this isn't litteral or how it will be.
The context bears the meaning.
---john9346 on 10/23/17




//choking on this particular gnat//

I can hear strongaxe gagging.

Strongaxe asks "I wonder why" NIV doesn't use "other" at Colossians 1:16. The reason being, as always with Trinitarians- is bias. Trinitarians are bias toward a false trinitarian god.

Translating Colossians 1:16 in the same way they do at 1 Cor.6:18 would be speaking against the trinity. If NIV used "other" at Col.1:16 as they do at 1Cor.6:18 it would go against their trinity dogma. NIV ( and most other trinitarian translations) are inconsistent in this regard.

Proof again that trinitarians are not influenced by context or grammar or even interested in truth. They are driven by dogma.
---David8318 on 10/23/17


David8318

The word "other" does not appear in either verse in my Bible. And it does not occur in the Greek. The context does not allow for the word "other" in either verse, as far as I can tell.
---Loony1 on 10/22/17


David8318:

You wrote: Rubbish! Both context and grammar agree with "all other" at Col.1:16.

Only in the Jehovah's Witnesses interpretation. Can you cite any other translation that uses "other" in Colossians 1:16?

In 1 Corinthians 6:18, NIV uses "other" but KJV doesn't. The very same NIV that you use to attempt to prove your point doesn't use "other" in Colossians 1:16. I wonder why?

(But again, choking on this particular gnat is getting very far away from the blog topic. If it's really important, a new blog should be created for it).
---StrongAxe on 10/22/17


Josef, Jesus is, was, and always will be the Son of God, one with the Father. But for a (very) brief time he also had an earthly incarnation during which he became both God and man. It was only this human form that Mary was the mother of. Mary was the mother of Jesus the human, never Jesus the God. Jesus the God existed in the beginning with the Father, before Mary was even thought of. You could say that Mary was the mother of Jesus and be accurate enough, because she was the biological mother of Jesus the man. But to call her the mother of God and to suggest that the Creator of the universe has a mother is nothing short of blasphemy.
---ObamasBoy on 10/22/17


Since Jesus is both GOD and man. He is the creator. Since he created all things he could not have been created.

It is called the Trinity.

On the original question. there can be and are currently many antichrists. Anyone who opposed Jesus is an antichrist.

Since the Pope takes the title of Jesus away from Jesus and assumes it that make him on the wrong side.

The title Pontifex Maximus means High Priest. Which is the title of Jesus.

Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/22/17


Kathr:Which was practiced by the FALSE Catholic Church telling folks they could pay their loved ones way out of an imaginary place called pergetory...a LIE FROM HELL//

A LIE AND A DUMB LIE AT THAT!

Cite from the CCC stating payments?

You can't because you lied.

One prays and does mortification to help get someone out of purgatory.

Now how can the CC know to collect money from me everytime I pray in my bedroom?

Or how is She going to know that I didn't put butter on my toast and demand payment from me?

SHAME ON YOU FOR LYING!
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/22/17


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//they insert "other" even though nothing in the context nor Greek grammar suggests it//- strongaxe.

Rubbish! Both context and grammar agree with "all other" at Col.1:16.

The Greek word used is "panta", an inflected form of the Greek word "pas". At 1 Cor.6:18 we find, "All other sins a person commits are outside the body" [NIV]. The word "other" is used here legitimately just as it is in Col.1:16.

Using "all other" agrees with context. Col.1:16 says, "...all things have been created through him and for him" [NIV]. Christ is not the creator. Rather, God is creating through Christ, and for him.
---David8318 on 10/22/17


"when she actually was only an earthly vesel to carry Jesus' temporary incarnate body."---ObamasBoy on 10/22/17
And you base that statement on what exactly? If Jesus was simply embodied in human form, then he wasn't human.
---Josef on 10/22/17


This sounds something like purgatory:

"Each mans work will become evident, for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each mans work.If any mans work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward.If any mans work is burned up, he will suffer loss, but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire."

1 Corinthians 3:13-15
---Loony1 on 10/22/17


You tell them PETER,...:

1 Perer 1: 18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers(((, Which was practiced by the FALSE Catholic Church telling folks they could pay their loved ones way out of an imaginary place called pergetory...a LIE FROM HELL))))

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory, that your faith and hope might be in God.
---kathr4453 on 10/22/17


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StrongAxe, I don't doubt what you are saying. But in my own opinion, adding your own twist to what the Bible says, or taking scripture out of context to fit your narrative, is slightly less blasphemous than flat out calling the Bible a liar, like the Catholics do. For example, claiming Mary remained a virgin her entire life when the Bible mentions Jesus' biological siblings on multiple occasions. Or claiming Mary never sinned, which is even contradictory to the first claim since refusal to consamate her marriage would have been a sin against her husband. And calling Mary "mother of God", suggesting that God was somehow made or conceived by Mary, when she actually was only an earthly vesel to carry Jesus' temporary incarnate body.
---ObamasBoy on 10/22/17


Obamasboy:

JW base their doctrines on the Bible, but put their own twist on a lot of them, and in several cases, actually alter their bible translation to agree with their theology. E.g. "by him all [other] things were made" - they insert "other" even though nothing in the context nor Greek grammar suggests it, but without that insertion, it contradicts their belief that Jesus was a created being.

Mormons believe in the Bible AND the Book of Mormon. They believe Jehovah was a man who later became God, and his son Jesus was a man who later became God, and all of us who believe will eventually become gods, with worlds of our own. The very first lie of the serpent in Eden was "you will be like gods".
---StrongAxe on 10/22/17


Kathr: Because Christianity is NOT a Religion. Christianity is a PERSON, the Person of Jesus Christ.//

Christianity IS a Religion which follows Jesus.

You don't understand the meaning of the word 'Religion'. If you did you wouldn't have made that statement.

Loony, you are correct.

You can see how Obamaboy REFUSES to state the Catholic Doctrines he claims are blasphemous.

He and Kathr are only repeating other people's opinions of the Catholic Church.

Most likely Leaders of their Church.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/21/17


Here is what Jesus says about people who do not do good works.

Then they themselves also will answer, Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?Then He will answer them, Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life. - Matthew 25:44-46
---Loony1 on 10/21/17


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StrongAxe, while I admittedly am not an expert on Mormon or JW doctrines, what I do know of their ideas actually do have biblical roots, even if they are a stretch. For example, the Bible does say that we will rule as joint heirs with Christ Jesus. I wouldn't use the term "gods", as I believe in only one true God who is the creator and ruler of the universe, but the idea that we will rule worlds with Jesus (not completely unlike "gods") actually does have biblical merit. Taking a biblical idea too far out of context like that is far different than making claims that actually directly contradict and call the Bible a liar as many of the Catholic claims do.
---ObamasBoy on 10/21/17


ObamasBoy:

You wrote: the Catholic denomination holds the most blasphemous doctrines I have ever heard of in Christianity. So much so that I have to refer to it as it's own religion rather than a denomination, because it certainly isn't Christian.

Catholics are MOST blasphemous? What do you think of Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons then?

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Jesus isn't God.

Mormons believe that Satan and Jesus were brothers, and that we can all become our own gods in charge of our own worlds (remember where we heard that one before?)
---StrongAxe on 10/21/17


loony1 ask, "(When you have found the one true religion, let me know what it is."

Here is what it is:

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." Jn 14:6

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation, but is passed from death unto life." Jn 5:24

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12
---john9346 on 10/21/17


Lonny1, I'm sure you are correct. I dont claim to have found any denomination without it's flaws, but the Catholic denomination holds the most blasphemous doctrines I have ever heard of in Christianity. So much so that I have to refer to it as it's own religion rather than a denomination, because it certainly isn't Christian.
---ObamasBoy on 10/21/17


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Looney1 hit the nail on the head here. He asked " do you thing there are any RELIGIONS...."

There are NO RELIGIONS out there Looney1 that are true and correct. Why? Because Christianity is NOT a Religion. Christianity is a PERSON, the Person of Jesus Christ.

But you yourself said you don't care about dogma, but a person's whatever.

There are wonderful people in the world with loving, selfless, compassionate hearts, yet deny Jesus is the Christ. Whether you like it or not Looney1, they are LOST, according to GOD. If you don't like that answer, take up your argument with the Lord, not with folks here who believe Gods Word.
---kathr4453 on 10/21/17


ObamasBoy

Do you think there are any religions out there that are true religions? (When you have found the one true religion, let me know what it is.) It is always easy for us to point our fingers at other religions, saying they are evil, in order that we may look at ourselves and say we are more righteous than they are.
---Loony1 on 10/20/17


Obamaboy, I bet you are correct on the 'things' you heard about the Pope of being against Christ.

But Pope Francis isn't none of those false claims made of him.

Trump isn't the only one who is a victim of fake media.

All the Popes have been suffering from false media for centuries. Even after they die.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/20/17


Loony1, I don't think the pope is Antichrist. I think he is anti-Christ, because he leads a false religion and a denomination which espouses lies, doctrines, and man-made traditions that are contrary with God's Word, the Bible. He also spews his own ungodly, ignorant political opinions that are contrary to God's ways. And his worshipers hold his opinions to be gospel truth, superseding even the Bible itself. He leads a religion that is anti-Christ. Of course, that's very different than saying he is the Antichrist.
---ObamasBoy on 10/20/17


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ObamasBoy:

The Biblical definition of "antichrist" is:
One who denies Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22)
One who denies Jesus Christ is come in the flesh (1 John 4:3, 2 John 1:7)

The Roman Catholic Church in general, and the Pope in particular, do neither of these things. Do you have a different criterion for determining who or what is antichrist, other than what the Bible uses?
---StrongAxe on 10/20/17


ObamaBoy

Why do you think that the pope is Antichrist? Just curious...
---Loony1 on 10/20/17


The pope is definitely anti-Christ in words,deeds, and doctrine. But is he THE Antichrist? I haven't the slightest clue.
---ObamasBoy on 10/20/17


"Moderator - The point I was making is that the Anti-Christ is a real person that a demon has entered, not a fallen angel that nobody knew that just showed up one day as the Anti-Christ." Apparently this conversation was never finish. Moderator what is the above statement based on?
---Josef on 10/20/17


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The beast is unrepentant sinners, and the false prophet is ALL false prophets, it looks like three people going to hell when you first look at Revelations 20, however, Satan is ALL demons, beast is liers and the false prophet is the false prophets in the church, as well as the witchcraft, it does not make any sense to have ONE man brain wash all those people,expl: someone who reads palms to someone who does not have christ as savior, that would be the false prophet showing miracles for the BEAST,
---Dawn_Gordon on 1/8/08


The False Leader must scripturally have 2 things: be out of the 10 kingdoms (locations) of Roman Empire after it fell and have complete world influence in religion sense.
---Michelle on 2/12/07


Jack - I do not ever recall having heard any Pope confess that Jesus is Lord. He is too being lord himself over all those lost souls.
---Helen_5378 on 8/25/06


Daniel - The Antichrist and the False Prophet are not one and the same. The Book of Revelation clearly reveals them as two separate persons.
---Helen_5378 on 8/24/06


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To say the day of Christ is at hand, the falling away must be first and the man of sin, the son of perdition revealed. The anti-christ and the false prophet are one and the same. I John clearly states the "one against Christ" come from among us-believers. He is a betrayer as Judas who was called the son of perdition by Jesus. The antichrist is revealed, the man of sin, the son of perdition and the falling away has come first. The day of Christ is at hand.
---Daniel on 8/24/06


2Thes2 states that the ...'day of Christ is at hand.' The day of Christ is at the end of the Trib and that day won't come until, 'that man of sin be revealed,...'. The 'man of sin' is revealed after the rapture. No one alive today can know who he is, as he hasn't been "revealed" yet. I tend away from the Pope because the false prophet is the spiritual leader at that time. The Pope being a spiritual leader militates against him as 'the man of sin'; clearly a political leader.
---Tim on 5/20/06


Here we go pinning the Horn on the Beast again.

What did St. John say was the sign of Antichrist? He who denies that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh--this is the spirit of Antichrist.

Whatever you might think of the Pope, none of them have denied that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh.
---Jack on 5/20/06


Right now it seems like the president of Iran is the antichrist!
---eliza4969 on 5/20/06


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a future man with vast authority, not necessarily a Pope, will be the Anti-Christ.
---Okebaram on 5/20/06


The anti-christ is a political figure who will rise out a 10 nation coalition. He will come to power through wonderful words and promise of peace. He will deceive nations. The false prophet is a religious figure, possibly out of Rome and probably with a Jewish heritage. He will be able to win the confidence of the Jewish people before he turns on them. He is Satan's counterfeit of John the Baptist, a fore-runner to the anti-christ who is Christ's counterfeit.
---Debbie on 5/20/06


Everyone who bets on who the antichrist is must themselves be the antichrist. Dontcha know were aren't supposed to bet. That's gambling LOL. Draw lots instead and make sure that the "old man Adam" is the longest straw.
---Linda6563 on 5/20/06


BREAKING NEWS:

The Pope will not be the anti-christ. The search is still going on and betting is on guessing who'll be the one.

Send your vote to "Anti-Christ Betting Department" as listed in your city's phone book.
---A_Catholic on 5/20/06


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Moderator I never responded to your last comment concerning angels, forgive me. I do know that angels and humans are not the same. However Heb13:2 makes it clear to me that angels and humans can look the same. For me to say that I know this to be a fact, I can not.

Moderator - The point I was making is that the Anti-Christ is a real person that a demon has entered; not a fallen angel that nobody knew that just showed up one day as the Anti-Christ.
---josef on 5/2/06


Moderator, I would like to clarify my last three responses. All that I'm saying is that he will not need a human body to full-fill his role as The Anti-christ. Rev. 13:18 rather than referring exclusive to a human, refers rather to having a mans face,or the appearance of a man. To my fellow readers- my apologies if I have offended anyone, this not my intent, I never want to create a controversy that would in any way cause contention or discord between myself and my brothers and sisters in Christ.
---josef on 4/25/06


Moderator,Part two. If the fallen angels cannot manifest themselves tangibly, please help me to understand Gen. 6:1-2&4. I understand these sons of God to be fallen angels. Not only were they able to be seen, they were also able to impregnate women. Just as Satan was able to impregnate Eve and produce Cain. Please note that Cain is not listed in Adams genealogy. Adam first child in his own likeness,after his image is listed as Seth. Part three to follow.

Moderator - No where do those scriptures say angels are identical to people. Do you think angels and humans are the same and look the same? Of course not and nor will you find any scriptures that state so.
---josef on 4/25/06


Good morning Moderator. Thank you for responding, Please do consider these correspondence as if I were debating with you, I am only seeking to know the truth. I know that no angel fallen or other wise has a human body, Please give me a scriptural reference that states that A fallen angel needs a human body to manifest themselves tangibly. Part one, Part two to come.

Moderator - Please reread my comments and what I was responding to.
---josef on 4/24/06


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Unhealthy? No way. Someone closely associated with a 10-nation union, a recommendation 666, I'm going to be very interested in. I repeat I wasn't stereotyping. Ok. I presumed he's Catholic because he's from Spain. Accept my apology.
---Nellah on 4/24/06


Nellah These were your exact words "He's Spanish, which makes him catholic" I remember from 50 years ago, someone saying to me "I'm English, of course I'm a Christian"
You are trying to damn both Solana and the Roman Catholic Chruch. Are you sure you do not have an unhealthy obsession about the man?
---alan8869_of_UK on 4/23/06


Alan, I didn't mean to sound like I was stereotyping this man. Isn't the catholic church the main church of Spain? There was a time whenever people spoke of the United States we were referred to as a Christian nation. What now?
---Nellah on 4/23/06


Moderator- Satan is The Anti-christ, He will appear before the second coming of Christ exhibiting himself as God. Instead of, or in the stead of Christ. Angels do have physical bodies and can appear tangibly as men. The references you requested are- Gen 19:1-4 Also consider 2 Thes. 2:3 "the son of perdition." Satan is the only entity that has already been condemned to die. Ref. Joh 17:12. The rest of us, alive or dead will not be judged to perdition until the great day of judgement. Rev. 14:7

Moderator - My point is that Satan will have to enter a human body as the Anti-Christ. His body is the body of a fallen angel not a human.
---josef on 4/21/06


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Moderator, I did not say he has a human body, I simply said he has his own body.

Moderator - His own body isn't in a human form as he is a fallen angel.
---josef on 4/21/06


Angels do have physical bodies according to the bible. Genesis tells of angels visiting Abraham and then Lot. The angels visited, conversed, had their feet washed and ate meals prepared for them. Hebrews tells us to entertain strangers because others have entertained angels unawares. The only other explanation would be that scripture sometimes refers to human beings as angels. Is there any basis for that?
---ralph7477 on 4/21/06


Nellah "He's Spanish, which makes him catholic"
Have you ever been to Spain? Does being American make you Christian? Does me being English make me Church of England? Are Germans all Lutheran?
---alan8869_of_UK on 4/21/06


Moderator-Satan has his own body. He is being witheld from appearing here on earth defacto at this present time, however he will be released for a short time before the second coming of Jesus. He will appear on earth claiming to be The Christ.

Moderator - Show the scripture that Satan has his own human body like a person. Impossible since he is a fallen angel and angels don't have human bodies.
---josef on 4/21/06


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MikeM: Borgainism is not an "ism" as you put it, but a command by Jesus Christ Himself -- John 3:3, 3:7. I was not referring in any way to what you are talking about. Are you a catholic?
---Helen_5378 on 4/20/06


Please read about Javier Solana, "super" head of the 10-nation Western European Union. Blue flag with a circle of twelve yellow stars. This man received his power through Recommendation 666 of the European Union Constitution. Please check this out and let us see what you feel. He's Spanish, which makes him catholic. Whoever or whatever he is, I believe he's on the payroll.
---Nellah on 4/20/06


Helen; The protestants killed many as well. When protestants ruled in England and elsewhere they murdered, tortured, were greatly intolerant, pograms, witch burnings, on and on. This born-again fundamentalism is exactly 100 years old, a cultural by=product of American culture and its rejection of 'modernism'(1900)and religious Calvinism. Do NOT equate reformation protestantism with bornagainism.
---MikeM on 4/20/06


Interesting Alan. A check on history will show that the catholic church has been responsible for the deaths of many many born-again Christians....the Spanish Inquisition was one of them.....they don't do it anymore simply because it would be just too obvious in this day and age.
---Helen_5378 on 4/20/06


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Neither, the anti-christ or false prophet will come out of the middle east. Turkey? When has ever the Catholic Chruch ever beheaded people. Never. A common practice in the midde east. What is the biggest threat to Christianity? Islam. They hate the Jews and the christians all those that claim that Jesus is the son of God.
---alan_G on 4/20/06


Babylon the Great (Revelation 17 & 18) is the catholic church. I believe that the anti-christ will come out of the catholic church...have believed that ever since I got saved. Possible also that the false prophet will come from the catholic church also, given all the weeping statues of Mary, etc....catholic church is full of false signs and wonders. Just wonder what part Islam will play given it's enormous rise to power in the world today. Maybe the beast will be from the Islam world.
---Helen_5378 on 4/20/06


Some believe the AntiChrist is alive today. I personally believe this is true. Many Catholics say the next pope will be the last pope, the 'Dark pope'-'Peter of Rome.' This is a very old belief, tradition in the Roman church. The present pope is 78 years old. Also, Maya tradition, and other native American traditions say the end of the age is near, 2012. Pagan and Christian traditions seem to converge.
---MikeM on 4/20/06


My comment is limited to the coming of the anti-christ just before the 2nd coming of Jesus as indicated in 2 Thes 2:3&4. This anti-christ claims to take the place of Christ. Who alone makes such a claim? Study and ask the Lord to help you id him. What will happen to this anti-christ? Read on in 2 Thes 2:8-10. Thank God! P.
---Pierr5358 on 4/20/06


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The Roman Catholic Church has many false doctrines and practice, but I do not believe any Pope will be either False Prophet or AntiChrist.
---alan8869_of_UK on 4/20/06


Mod; I can't back up what I said with scripture because no one knows who the anitchrist will be, even me. It is was a theory, as saying the Pope will be the next antichrist.
---Rebecca_D on 4/20/06


It is because the pope heads a worldwide religious organization that I believe he will be the false prophet. Already in a religious position, the pope's recognition of the Antichrist will in the pope's mind elevate himself To an extreme high (sharing if you will) position alongside the Antichrist. But after the Antichrist destroys the false prophet he will stand alone in the temple in Jerusalem and proclaimed himself to be God.

Moderator - I tend to agree except the Anti-Christ turns on the church not the false prophet. The Anti-Christ and the False Prophet both last until the end of the Tribulation?
---mima on 4/20/06


He may be the false prophet. Satan is the anti-christ.

Moderator - Yes, but Satan will have to dwell in a person's body whom will be the Anti-Christ.
---joseph on 4/20/06


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It is not up to us to judge.....
---jan on 4/20/06


Who knows. I honestly don't think the anitchrist is going to be someone like the Pope or the President of any Country. Because people are "looking" for it to be the next Pope or the next President. It is going to be someone that no one suspects, and will have great power over nations. The President has power over nations, yes, but everyone is expecting the Anti-christ to be a president.

Moderator - Show scriptures for the theory.
---Rebecca_D on 4/19/06


As a student of prophecy for over 40 years, I can say that there is no evidence the Pope will be either one. By-the-way, I'm a Baptist!

Moderator - Who is mentioned in Revelation 17 and 18?
---WIVV on 4/19/06


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