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I am inclined to believe the scientists who say there are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on our shores. Scientists also say that all this was made from NOTHING during the BigBang. How can any of them believe that this happened without the hand of God?

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Scientist say that Life & The Balance of all the Universe comes down to less than a Fraction of an INCH.

Praise, Glory & Honor be unto our Father,
Who has the Balance of ALL things in his Hands...
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/3/08

The Big Bang theory is an anti-Biblical idea based upon Einstein's General Theory of Relativity. It assumes-with no proof-the universe has no boundary and no centre.

The 'red-shift' and red-shift cluster evidence is strong evidence that there is a centre and that we are very near it as the red-shift of stars shows they are moving away from us in every direction.

There is nothing proven about the Big Bang and it's contradicted by Scripture so no reason to accept it.
---Warwick on 6/3/08

Mark V: You are Right,! Frances is Right! Matter cannot be created or destroyed. I cannot prove creation, neither can evolution be proved. I believe God by faith, evolutionists believe Darwin by faith. In the beginning God........[ where did God come from?]. In the beginning Dirt... [where did dirt come from?]. Frances and I have a hope in God, while evolutionists hope in the dirt. In Christ\ian
---ian_8763 on 6/2/08

Frances, your 5/7/ quote is the best I have read. Since everything has to come from something, how can they explain creation? Something from nothing? I am waiting for that answer too. keep the answers coming Frances.
---Mark_V. on 5/31/08

Mima::Since you believe in the Big bang Theory then you are way out of your existance A bang takes a few moments in time say even 15 minutes but the word says 6 days and on the 7 th God rested.It also was a VOID so how did the bang come and you are a preacher?Void is a vacuum Bang produced sound which needs a medium to reverberate.Nice try you do work yourself into strange situations.False ones that is!!
---Emcee on 5/18/08

I receive your truth, Jerry.
---frances008 on 5/18/08

Frances: One fundamental difference - only God is Creator. Man does not "create" anything. We can rearrange matter and living organisms, but we cannot create them.
---jerry6593 on 5/17/08

Big bang lol. That is a lunatic idea. The universe is not meant to be understood completely by a human and it never will be. Maybe a vision here and there but take it for what its worth. Is there some type of undetermined glory one will achieve by attaining the knowledge of the creation of the universe... people are just entertaining themselves.
---Andrew on 5/16/08

I believe in the Big Bang theory. And I believe the Big Bang was caused and brought about by Almighty God. This universe and everything it happened instantaneously at spoken word of God. This gives me cause to believe that there was a big noise when it happened!
---Mima on 5/16/08

the most intelligent people have closed their minds down to a creator ...this intelligence leads them to believe that everything in the universe "popped" into existence one fine day with a bang ...millions of animals, insects ...not to mention oxygen, water, and other essentials that can't be off even a fraction of the smallest number or life on earth would cease to exist
---Rhonda on 5/15/08

...and it all just appeared out of nowhere ...satan seeks to destroy anything from God and uses the most intelligent people for a purpose ...many lesser intelligent will buy whatever the "schooled" sell them
---Rhonda on 5/15/08

Jerry, it is clear that Creation was done in six days, to me at least, but also that it continues today with man's creation that relies on knowledge accumulated since creation. Hence, we are using computers that were not around at Creation.
---frances008 on 5/15/08

God spoke it and Bang it happened, That is the Big Bang. I wasn't born by chance. The world was not formed by chance. To many intricate details would have to come together a specific way to form the earth and the people walking, talking and thinking on it.
---Mark on 5/15/08

But Eloy ... What was it like when the structure of the Universe was made by God? It all happened suddenly, as He commanded it.
I expect it was just like a Great Big Bang. Before, nothing, then the Universe & our world on which God then worked.
Perhaps ouir scientists are right in thinking it was a Big Bang, but they are wrong in not realising Who it was who caused it?
---alan_of_UK on 5/15/08

Wow, I think I saw Jack and MikeM today, LOL, Amen?
---Donna on 5/15/08

The Big Bang, and there was light, core of the earth and sun, the earth began to revolve not formed yet, gases and such were revolving for day one imploding, the second day evaporation above and beneath the sea top took place, a mist went up to create the sky day two, this evaporation as in a sand bar the land appeared, day four other stars big bang also, and the moon. Light in darkness sun of God, Christ the father in heaven space: the stories book character of Immanuel, Jesus Christ (sun): Emmanuel.
---michael on 5/15/08

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Warwick ... one of us is antipodean ... depending which side of the world is UP.
I looked it up in the dictionary!
More velcro in the Northern Hemisphere ... Yes I suppose so, but only because there are more people sensible enough (or the opposite) to live UP here.
---alan_of_UK on 5/15/08

The ignoramus who spreads the lie of a big bang was not around to hear any big bang, nor even around to hear any little peep.
---Eloy on 5/15/08

There is no gravity. The earth sucks.
---jerry6593 on 5/15/08

thank you Jerry,I wholy believe that God Almighty had all to do with everything..not the so called big bang ...
---operator on 5/15/08

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Alan I'm not anti-podean at all, I like them.

Velcro seems the only likely idea Alan,and as you know there is much more of it in the northern hemisphere.
---Warwick on 5/14/08

Warwick ... Of course you see the world upside down, since you are an antipodean!
But if you are right, how do I not fall off, since I don't have velcro on my feet?
---alan_of_UK on 5/14/08

Alan: "How can any of them believe that this happened without the hand of God?"

The same way they believe that life originated from non-living matter and then organized itself into higher life forms on earth - BY BLIND FAITH!
---jerry6593 on 5/14/08

Mac you have it wrong, South America is at the top, you have been looking at it upside down.
---Warwick on 5/13/08

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Mac .... Perhaps they have Velcro on their feet.
---alan_of_UK on 5/13/08

How come people in south america don't fall off the earth since they are standing upside down?
---Mac on 5/13/08

Operator: I'm a physicist, if that will do. Stars and planets do not "hang in midair." There is no air in outer space. By Newton's First Law, unless acted upon by an external force (gravity), these objects will either remain in place and motionless or travel with a uniform initial velocity.
---jerry6593 on 5/12/08

I would like to ask any scientists of today, on this blog or not, tell us, "HOW DID THE STARS, SUN, MOON, HANG IN MID AIR?"
If by the bigbang, How did it keep them up there? Cos we dont see no ropes to keep em up there? Can you please explain?
---operator on 5/9/08

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Mima: "Creation is not a dead thing, but a living thing, a ongoing thing."

Respectfully, God Himself wrote with His own finger that all creation took only six literal days. (Exo 20:11)
---jerry6593 on 5/9/08 hollywood movies they're always overdramatizing, "Big Bang", nope. Instead, tt was just a word, "the worlds were created by word of God, so that not from things visible the seen have come into being." Hebrews 11:3.
---Eloy on 5/9/08

Alan--I suppose that they are atheists who need to believe things are unrelated to God. Anyone who knows God understands that the Big-Bang theory is ludicrous.
---jody on 5/8/08

When I see one of these 'scientists' make something from nothing in a testube I will take more notice of what they have to say. Until that day, I will accept God's version of Creation.
---frances008 on 5/7/08

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I believe God made all things and gives life, and the devil takes away all things and destroys. God made things self-sustaining and does not have to worry about holding them up. I think He is stepping back at the moment and letting Satan loose on earth so that people can choose God or the devil and bring condemnation on themselves, and thereby destruction.
---frances008 on 5/7/08

God is everywhere in Jesus who holds the whole universe together in himself. Colossians 1:17.
---SueQ7373 on 5/7/08

Jack, I don't agree that God is everywhere. There are many places where the devil is enthroned as god and many souls full of demons. God the Father is in Heaven, the Holy Spirit in the church, and Jesus is in Heaven too. This world is in the hands of the evil one, Lucifer, or Satan. God is coming back to rescue the believers.
---frances008 on 5/7/08

I believe in the Big Bang theory. The "Big Bang" was the result of what God did ,which was say let there be!!! Nothing became something instantly and is still doing so today. Creation is not a dead thing, but a living thing, a ongoing thing. Maybe in the hereafter you and I will be assigned to do a little space travel and go check out some of these stars. The Bible dismisses the creation of the stars in five words." He made the stars also". Genesis 1:16
---mima on 5/7/08

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Alan of uk, the scientist are wrong. The Holy Word of God is the one to believe. Men think they are wise and smarter than God, but they are fools.
---shira on 9/18/07

Elder, I will repeat what I previously said: Lest there be confusion, my use of Nothing and Something referred to the physical universe.

God, being uncreated, is not part of the physical universe, at least as I am using the term. Though God is everywhere, He is limited to nowhere. I think we both agree that the physical created universe is not all that exists.
---Jack on 5/23/06

Neptune was thought to be solid ice until recent times (thanks to voyager) where they have found it has clouds and storms. Funny that they seem to be changing their minds every few months about the conditions of its atmosphere, but claim to know its internal structure. How can they know that? I do trust a lot of science (more than most Christians), but there are some things that they cant possibly know as fact (yet).
---chris on 5/22/06

Cris; Yes we can know what types of gases compose Neptune's atmosphere, it has a lot to do with light spectrum. Its too long to explain here, and is irrelevant to discussion. The big bang theory in no way conflicts with belief in the Creator. the 'something from nothingness' argument is more philosophical than theological.
---MikeM on 5/22/06

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I am not skeptical of real science. DNA is explorable and man has plenty of experience with its analysis. I don't dispute that. I do dispute some other claims, such as, mans claim to know exactly how the center of the Earth functions and what it is composed of. ...or what types of gases compose Neptune's atmosphere. Things that we cannot (at this time) put our hands on to truly analyze. That is what I was referring to as hypothetical.
---chris on 5/22/06

Yes we know more than hypothetical answers. I dont know your point. We send people to the gas chamber based on DNA evidence, accepting it as fact, when reality serves an agenda. many reject DNA when it factually supports a view that some disagree with. I have no time for nihilism.
---MikeM on 5/22/06

MikeM, I know that science is based on "natural law", but it is still man's version. When it comes down to it, we have barely scratched the surface of scientific discovery here on our planet. An example would be the deepest parts of the ocean or the core of the Earth. We claim to know things about them, but do we really know anything more than hypothetical answers? have we touched them and physically analyzed them? Man is not as smart as they seem.
---chris on 5/16/06

There is no such thing as nothing, so to think that a "big bang" happened out of what -- nothing? It is much easier to take God at His word and believe what He says. Those who do not want to believe God will always concoct something up to make their disbelief look real.
---Helen_5378 on 5/16/06

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"The universe we see when we look out to its farthest horizons contains a hundred billion galaxies. Each of these galaxies contains another hundred billion stars. That's 10^22 stars all told. The silent embarrassment of modern astrophysics is that we do not know how even one of these stars managed to form." -- Science March 1986, pp 1201-1202
---jerry6593 on 5/16/06

Jack the Big Bang says there was nothing.
Creation says there was God.
---Elder on 5/15/06

Lest there be confusion, my use of "Nothing" and "Something" refers to the physical universe.
---Jack on 5/15/06

Both the Big Bang and Genesis 1 say, in effect, there was Nothing and then there was Something.

The first thing to separate out of the "formless and void" time-space-matter-energy continuum was light--and this squares with "Let there be light."

I have no trouble with a Big Bang theory that has God ultimately behind it.
---Jack on 5/15/06

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Cris; never heard that before. The core of western science, is, well was based on 'natural law,' the assumption that earth was a creation, therefore a creator. Secularism in the last 150 years has undermined that. As to big band theory, its ontological implications are theistic, for all but the most ardent fundamentalist.
---MikeM on 5/15/06

Please explain Carla why a Christian cannot believe in (or accept the possibility of) the Big Bang?
---alan8869_of_UK on 5/15/06

MikeM, it is not the true science (created by God), it is the popular theories of man. Most of the popular ones make attempts to rule out a powerful being as the creator, but rather want to find a way for it to come from chance.
---chris on 5/15/06

Carla; Does science and Faith need disagree?
---MikeM on 5/15/06

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Who lit the fuse on the giant firecracker that caused the "Big Bang"?

Who packed the giant firecracker with all the stuff needed to create the Universe?
---John_T on 5/15/06

People that choose to believe in the big bang theory, do so because their belief is obviously not in God and in the scientific way of understanding, ''I'll believe it when I can see it happen'' so they find these sculls and different fossils, tie them together and there you are, I see it I believe it, But we who are christians know better,
---Carla5754 on 5/15/06

Jerry ... can you imagine the scenes when God spoke, and the breath of His mouth created everything? Can you imagine the scene if there happened to be the Big Bang, powered by God. There is no need to deny and ridicule everything suggested by scientists. Ever been up in an aircraft?
---alan8869_of_UK on 4/28/06

Mike: I think you are trapped in the box of academic hubris. Most credible scientists are backing away from the BB theory as unworkable. There are too many holes in it.
---jerry6593 on 4/28/06

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Big Bangs is a poor term as well, one could say 'initial creation'.....?
---MikeM on 4/27/06

The Big Bang does not even address the question of God or metaphysics. Those who see it creating an epistemological conflict need to look within themselves, and their own flawed conclusions. (A small mistake in last post-I said 'bosses' instead of Boxes. Through it is true we sometimes know those who think they are the 'boss,' of everything, and that the Lord is not)
---MikeM on 4/24/06

The Big Bang is a threat ONLY for those in a box, a box known as literalism. Lets not forget the entire scientific method came from the philosophy of natural law, the judeo-Christian underpinnings of western culture. As to boses, the Lord will not be restricted to one.
---MikeM on 4/24/06

Elder, you are so funny!
LLL OOO LLL! :~ ))
---Donna2277 on 4/24/06

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Cristians complain about "Christian bashing", maybe scientists should start complaining about "scientist bashing". Scientists don't know everything nor pretend to. They know they are unable to create something from nothing. Most are NOT atheists. My father had a Ph.D. in chemistry. He was not a Christian, but his scientific studies convinced him there WAS a God. Of course, I could never "out-argue" him on any topic. But I lead him to His Lord Jesus a month before he died.
---Donna2277 on 4/24/06

I guess I did miss his point then... I apologize.
---chris on 4/24/06

Yes jerry you are correct. But when God spoke and nothing became something perhaps it involved a little "Big Bang" noise? The heavenly bodies would appear to be in "free fall" in reverse!!
---mima on 4/24/06

Chris ... you seem to have missed that Mike was supporting God's involvement in this. As he said, there is no conflict between scripture and that suggestion about how God made the universe.
The conflict arises with those scientists who deny God's hand in this.
---alan8869_of_UK on 4/24/06

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MikeM, You wrote "filled with extreme high energy density and concomitantly huge temperatures and pressures". My question is, how was or who created the energy or the physics for energy to exist or temperatures? How was or who created the space that contained the energy?

tommy3007, who died or decayed in the "gap theory"? Can you reference scripture to supports your claim?
---chris on 4/24/06

Those who say that the Bible does not conflict with the Big Bang Theory don't know the Bible. The Bible says "By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.... For he spoke, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast. (Psa 33:6,9)
---jerry6593 on 4/24/06

Scientist are truly great learned people that make the world as comfortable as it is today. They truly make use of God's creation and material to change things to better things and things to worse things. They are also good at messing up things that God has created. Try telling a scientist to create just a grain of sand out of nothing. Only our Creator God is the greatest scientist. We should start learning from Him.
---Alber6979 on 4/24/06

I know a few astronomers, none atheist. Does not the scriptures say the heavens declare the glory of God? Big Bang is confirmed on many levels. The time space continium is endless. 14 Billion years ago, give or take a leap-year. ( I have a pHD?-no way, only a B.A.-from UNLV)
---MikeM on 4/24/06

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Science says you ain't got nothin' from no where then all of a sudden this nothin' goes Bang and I mean BIG Bang then we got somethin'. But then this here Bang musta took billions of years cause a fish hadda become a monkey so he could become a Scientist. Maybe it was Baaaannnnnnnng,
I think he had a Big Bang on his head when he was a baby.
You know you can't convince a real monkey of this theory.
---Elder on 4/23/06

Mike M--I don't see why it would necessarily conflict. The Bible just says "God created", it doesn't give details as to how. I agree that true science cannot be in conflict with Scripture. But, good grief, Mike, do you think every body here has a Ph.D.?! If people don't understand you, what good do your blogs do? Or is the pupose just to keep us in awe of your education?
---Donna2277 on 4/23/06

"The universe was homogeneously, isotropically filled with extreme high energy density and concomitantly huge temperatures and pressures. It expanded and cooled, going through phase transitions analogous to the condensation of steam or freezing of water as it cools, but related to elementary particles." Dr. Slavk. How does this conflict with scripture?
---MikeM on 4/23/06

The 'big Bang' is confirmed by science, the ontology of the event in no way conflicts with belief, nor does natural selection by evolution. Subjective presuppositions replacing objective reality. (I note on the evolution thread, 'fossil fish' the anti-evolution folk threw in the towel, but thats the nature of debate.)
---MikeM on 4/23/06

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The Big Bang is a big bust. It was concieved by George Gamow, a science fiction writer. It is science fiction. Like the theory of evolution, many reputable scientists have abandoned it due to the many scientific laws it violates.
---jerry6593 on 4/22/06

Hey Folks, the answer to the "gap theory" is really quite simple. God says that until Adam sinned, there was no death, the gap theory puts death and decay before Adam's sin, who you gonna believe? God or man?
---tommy3007 on 4/22/06

Chris, you have some of the same questions I have always had, questions which are probably impossible to answer. I always wondered how the evening and the morning on days 1-3 could be 24 hour days when the sun wasn't created until the 4th day. The light on those first days could be the same light that will shine upon the new heaven and new earth in Revelation, i.e. the light of God's glory.
---ralph7477 on 4/21/06

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