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Beatings And Nailing Biblical

A friend of mine was in the Phillipines over this Easter. He witnessed a strange practice over Easter where people were tieing and/or nailing themselves to the cross and beating themselves bloody to sacrifice themselves like Jesus. My question is: What does the bible say about this type of practice?

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 ---lorin8757 on 4/27/06
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There is nothing scriptural about this practice. We might be called upon to die for our faith, at the hands of others, but we are not told to do things like this. Christ was the only necessary sacrifice, we do not need to sacrifice ourselves in this way and those who understand what Christ did for us will know not to do these things. Those who do it will gain nothing from doing so.
---M.P. on 2/7/08

Colossians 2:20-23 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in (will worship)-self discipline-or faking spirituality-, and -false- (humility), (and neglecting of the body)-fasting or afflicting for salvation not faith in the blood;
---Exzucuh on 3/17/07

I don't think that the bible addresses such an act. They're reenacting the crucifixion of Christ. I really don't think God would approve. My sister in law is Filipino and she saw this happen many times. Some actually die during this RCC Easter tradition there.
---NVBarbara on 3/17/07

(Part 3) Three translations Col 1:24:
"Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ on behalf of his body, which is the church"

"In my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ's afflictions..."

"It makes me happy to be suffering for you now, and in my own body to make up all the hardships that still have to be undergone by Christ "
---Philomena on 5/3/06

(Part 2) The Bible also says:

1 Cor 9:24-27: "No, I drive my body and train it, for fear that, after having preached to others, I myself should be disqualified."

1 Cor 10:12: "Therefore, whoever thinks he is standing secure should take care not to fall."

Matt. 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will
enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the
will of my Father in heaven.
---Philomena on 5/3/06

(Part 1) On "RCC attempts to make themselves acceptable to to God, good works and suffering." (i.e., the possibility of losing one's salvation) Yes, the sacrifice of Jesus is complete! However:

Matt 24:13 But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.

2Tim 2:12: If we persevere we shall also reign with him.

Romans 11:22: provided you remain in his kindnessotherwise you too will be cut off.

Phillipians 2:12: work out your salvation with fear and trembling.
---Philomena on 5/3/06

Lorin I would suggest John 19:30 - "It is finished." Jesus had finished what He came to do so there is no need for anyone to imitate His sacrifice. Only He could take away our sins, anyone trying to imitate what He did that day is just wasting their time and, sadly, creating a false sense of security. Nothing but the blood of Jesus would suffice, their own blood achieves nothing whatsoever.
---M.P. on 5/3/06

Those are all great responses but I need to back this issue up with scripture, in a loving way to hopefully help my friend see its not what Jesus wants us to do to observe his sacrifice for us...Any scriptures anyone???
---lorin8757 on 4/29/06

All the answer miss the key factor: why do the people do it? Mexicans also do this. What do they have in common?
A perversion of the truth, it is all part of RCC attempts to make themselves acceptable to to God, good works and suffering.
---mike6553 on 4/28/06

I like the answer Bruce gave.
---mima on 4/28/06

Actually I beleive the Bible addresses this specificaly. In all the debate over pierced ears and tattoos etc. people are fond of bringing up the OT laws that seem to speak against it. I believe that this is a misapplication of those scriptures but what they do speak against is the practice of mutilation for religious purposes. The heathen do these things and the children of God ought not.
---Bruce5656 on 4/28/06

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