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The Joy Of Salvation

Please give your definition of" The Joy of Salvation".

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The Lord Jesus Christ. Joy is not a feeling. It is a person.
---Linda6563 on 12/27/07

Salvation is KNOWING that your sin is forgiven (be it at conversion or in the daily life of a believer 'mercy') in which we recieve the peace that passes all understanding. Joy follows this more readily than rats to the Piper's tune.
The Joy of salvation is peace with God.
If we read the greetings in many of Paul's letters we find these words (in this order)

2Ti 1:2 To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
---Pharisee on 6/3/07

karen, I have no wife. As for condemning anyone, I have no need. The guilty who have done me wrong, condemn themselves. As for God using that women to bring others to Christ, as it stands currently she is in sin and not in Christ.
---Eloy on 6/10/06

karen, thank you. btw, people do see Christ in me now. Please read II Corinthians 4:8-12.
---Eloy on 6/10/06

Rebecca, dear one, thank you for your counsel. Please know that I already have given this up to God, many many many times over, and I fathom that I probably will have to continue to pray through this until recompense or restoration is made in full. Let me simulate a little for you to help facilitate a deeper understanding of the damage: it is somewhat liken to having an amputated limb, no matter how much it hurts and how much you pray about it, until it is restored it will always be missing.
---Eloy on 6/9/06

111. I will keep praying for you Eloy. My prayer is that God will bring happeness and joy to your life, and restore back what you have lost, and heal that heart of yours so that Christs love will pour out of you, and people will see it because they cannot see it now. Blessings to you
---karen on 6/8/06

11. I am sure that there is many on line that would love to be your friend and your brother or sister. But you have to give a little too. Your work as a pastor would progress and God would just give you so much, if you just humbled. I know you don't have to. I say you haven't forgiven because you say that those who wrong us, (you mean who wrong you), will perish in the end. You are talking about your wife. You have no idea if God will use her to bring someone to Christ. And here you are condemning her.
---karen on 6/8/06

Eloy, I never questioned your salvation. I can see you have been hurt by your wife but you sound so bitter at her. Isn't it time to move forward with Christ so that He can use you like never before? How can you expect forgiveness if you don't give it to others? Your sadness is yours along and I know that and by reading what you say, you don't give others time to be your friend. You have to treat others as you would like to be treated.
---karen on 6/8/06

Eloy; It is okay to be hurt, cry and even get angry, but your holding a grudge against this person, who wronged you, and I understand how you can. But it is taking over your life, this sorrow and grief, Your in a black hole and you can't get out of it. I was there. What I done was I spread anointing oil into a circle, I got in, and as soon as I did, I felt God. I just cried and God took away my pain. But you have to be willing to hand it over to God or he can't help you. Try this and see what happens.
---Rebecca_D on 6/8/06

.karen, I not only see, but I know and am proven that I am a genuine, authentic, Holy Ghost filled, saint, tongue talking, tongue interpreting, prophesying, preaching, teaching, with signs following, born-again, saved, sanctified, Christian man of God.
---Eloy on 6/8/06

.karen, you do not know me, and are full of misjudgment. Your life may be enough for you, but my life is not yours, nor is my life yours to judge. It is right and also righteous for me to want exactly what I want. Being about my Papa's business gives me great fulfillment. I already am saved and he also promised me the reward, so you greatly err in writing that I might not even get it.
---Eloy on 6/8/06

Rebecca, you're blessed to be able to choose happiness when horrible things are done to you. I am not blessed that way. It is right to sorrow, hurt, and cry, when the violent take us and our children by force. Even Jesus wept. There were times when I cried for many many days and nights none stop, and then intermittently throughout the days and nights at home and work and when running errands. God is helping me through it all; I know that in the end those who wronged us also wronged God, and will perish.
---Eloy on 6/8/06

Eloy; I'm wasn't saying that you don't have Salvation. I was curious to know why you don't have joy in your life? You can't live your life day after day with full of sorrows and grief. I have learned to overcome things in my life with the help of the Lord. I have went through being molested for 4 years, having a miscarriage (while I was married) then a month later losing my mom and others. I don't have time to have grief or sorrow. God is bigger than all of my problems. But I chose to be happy.
---Rebecca_D on 6/7/06

What really makes you happy and joyful Eloy? its seems that your salvation should be a joy, your adoption should be a joy, just breathing each day should be a joy, been chosen from so many should be a joy. If you are in it for the reward only, you might not even get it. The joy and love should be pouring out of you. But it seems that all that is not enough, you are still in the past and cannot see who you really are in Christ. Blessed are those that love the Lord and with joy they will sing to the Lord.
---karen_1 on 6/7/06

Rebecca, Truly I am saved and a citizen of heaven, but I am still a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. But one day God will wipe away every tear from our eyes, and there will be no more sorrow, nor more pain, nor more crying. And the children will be returned to the father, and the reward for the work of our hands will not another take, and every good thing taken will be returned to us and those wicked will be destroyed, and then will our sorrow be turned into full joy.
---Eloy on 6/7/06

Eloy: how can you have Salvation, and know that you know that you are going to heaven but yet you have no joy in your life? Your not dead Eloy, if God abides in you, and you in him, Lord you should be full of joy. Did I understand your statement right or did I misunderstand it? If so then let me know either way.
---Rebecca_D on 6/6/06

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Salvation I know, but joy is foreign to me. "The Joy of Salvation" means being glad that you are saved, saved from sin, and I am. Even so "Thankful of Salvation" or "The Thankfulness of Salvation" is more descriptive to me, than joy.
---Eloy on 6/6/06

The joy of salvation is knowing that I will be going to heaven one day. The fact that I can call upon the Father anytime I want, and he is there for me. It is a privilage to be able to call upon his name. The joy of salvation is also knowing that I will live with Christ forevermore.
---Rebecca_D on 6/5/06

He's alive!

That's JOY
---Joy on 6/4/06

Part one of my post below should have read, "In some places joy is spoken of in scripture as an emotion that results from something good happening."

My intention was to show that this is only part of the story. Joy is not dependant on good things happening but rather the presence of the Lord and the assurance that God is in control.
---Bruce5656 on 6/4/06

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Joy is spoken of in scripture as an emotion that results from something good happening. I Sam 18:6, Ezra 3:12 etc. It is something that endures despite any affliction. While it may not be expressed in such an overt way as I King 1:40, it persists in spite of affliction or a period of mourning. Psalms 30:5, "For his anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning."
---Bruce5656 on 6/3/06

In the OT, it is associated with the word of the Lord Jeremiah 15:16, thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart and the presence of the Lord Psalms 16:11, "Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore." And it is represented as being strength to the child of God Nehemiah 8:10, " for the joy of the LORD is your strength."
---Bruce5656 on 6/3/06

Jesus promised joy to his followers John 15:11, "These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full." And said that no one can take if from us John 16:22, " your joy no man taketh from you." 1 John 1:4, "And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full."
---Bruce5656 on 6/3/06

The joy of the Christian is based on his presence with us. John 17:13, "And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves." And it is a fruit of the Spirit Galatians 5:22, "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith," Romans 14:17, "For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost."
---Bruce5656 on 6/3/06

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1 Thessalonians 1:6, "And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost:"

Even great affliction cannot rob us of our joy 2 Corinthians 8:2, "How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality."
---Bruce5656 on 6/3/06

The basis of our joy is that God is in control. Psalms 42:11, "Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted within me? hope thou in God: for I shall yet praise him, who is the health of my countenance, and my God." 1 Peter 1:8, "Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:"
---Bruce5656 on 6/3/06

There is a time for mourning and sadness but it cannot touch the joy of the Lord that is ever present. Romans 12:15, "Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep." However, if I were to define joy, I would call it the deep settled peace and calm assurance that God is in control no matter what the circumstances. Joy is not dependent on the circumstances but rather is the result of the indwelling Spirit of God.
---Bruce5656 on 6/3/06

My words are inadequate, but as it is written, In His presence there is fullness of joy. What a glorious thing to come to know Him and His presence for the first time! To know you belong to Him, are loved by Almighty God, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, the GREAT I Am!!!!Glory to the Lamb!!! To praise Him all the day long...He has awakened my heart to know His love
---christina on 6/3/06

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A peace that passeth all understanding. How would I have coped with the loss of a daughter and my own cancer without my Savior? I can't imagine trying.
---shira on 6/3/06

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