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Christians With Guilt And Shame

Why do so many Christians live with guilt and shame? Jesus carried our guilt and shame. I think they are tools of satan. What do you think?

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I think they can be tools of Satan if they are allowed to go unconfessed.

God takes our sin and washes us clean, where else is there hope?
---Pharisee on 8/2/08

continued....I also believe that the way we are fully healed is by the truth (which Jesus brought to us in his teachings). In fully facing the truth of our past, God can change our future. Psychology is one way in which we can understand behavior, and cycles of violence within our familites. What we grow up with we consider normal, even if it includes violence. In this respect, we have to relearn (heal), and it is God that will show us the way.
---Grace on 6/14/06

continued... So, we have to look at the past in order to gain understanding and make the changes necessary. The understanding part is critical to success, and psychology is one of many ways to gain understanding about our behavior.
---Grace on 6/14/06

No Helen, I definitely believe we must ask God for healing. The process by which healing takes place includes prayer, but also includes understanding. If someone is addicted to alcohol and they want to gain control over it, they ask God for help. In asking, they are admitting their problem (1st step). Prayer helps in keeping them focused on the problem, then God helps us to understand why we had the problem. continued..
---Grace on 6/14/06

Grace - If as you say "understanding helps in healing" then do you also mean that by this we can heal ourselves?? God's word teaches me that "By Jesus' stripes I am healed". If Jesus' stripes heal me which means that Jesus bore my healing on the Cross, then how on earth can healing come by any other means?
---Helen_5378 on 6/13/06

Helen, I would never say that you should not turn to God for assistance in healing, of course you should. However, God can use psychology to teach us about our behavior, and why we do things. We can learn about addictive behaviors, and we are able to find the source of those behaviors; understanding helps in healing.
---Grace on 6/13/06

Bruce, you ask why does a Christian need to be "convicted of sin"?

Because if we say we have no sin--even you--we deceive ourselves and the Truth (Jesus) is NOT in us.
---Jack on 6/13/06

Grace - Psychology or so-called Christian Psychology is a lie from the pits of hell. Jesus never said to seek counsel from man..... He said "Come to Me all you who are weary and heavy laden and I will give you rest". Psychology is not in the Word of God..... it is man's futile attempt to heal himself. If Psychology did work, then I would have been healed a very long time ago and would have had no need to come to Jesus at all. By Jesus' stripes we are healed..... Jesus is the healer.
---Helen_5378 on 6/13/06

.bruce, "Backsliding", however if a Christian does backslide then they are no longer a Christian unless they righten themselves. please read the scripture I cited below.
---Eloy on 6/13/06

"it could be because they are guilty for some thing and either the Holy Ghost is convicting them or their conscience is acsusing them"
What could a Christian possibly be guilty of?
or why would a Christian need conviction by the Holy Spirit?
---Bruce5656 on 6/12/06

Guilt and shame are not necessarily bad things. They make us try harder to be good and do good. And if we have done wrong, feeling guilt and shame is the natural reaction for a person who loves God.

However, when sinful people accuse us ... as they often do ... we are apt to feel guilt and shame (in the reproach). This is the lot of all Christians. But, as the bible tells us, we will be vindicated in the end.
---JamesMark on 6/12/06

It could be because Satan is trying to accuse them of wrongs which are already forgiven, or else it could be because they are guilty for some thing and either the Holy Ghost is convicting them or their conscience is acsusing them, or else they are not real Christians at all. Please read II Corinthians 7:10.
---Eloy on 6/12/06

To be brutally honest, the Baptist women I am related to are strong.(I am not Baptist) They preached 1st. Cor. where it says women be submissive, I never saw it. They raised strong sons and daughters, no time to whine. The other side endlessly talked about past abuse, physical, sexual, emotional. In church they would sob about it, be hugged by the group, then return days later for another round. Yes, in hindsight I know which used tools of Satan. Christ is the liberator, not the enslaver.
---MikeM on 6/12/06

I reject the "I am a hurtin' your a hurtin,' lets get together so we can all hurt together" chant of 'some' groups. They open up old emotional wounds as a means to control people, mostly women by making them emotionally dependent. One side of my family we have strong, 'gater wrestlin' type women, the other, whining women who are always in the process of 'healing' but never seem to get 'healed.' The Bible I read discribes a lot of strong women, Ruth, Ester, whom I bet never whined, real women.
---MikeM on 6/12/06

I liked this part of Helen's answer.
"Maybe it stands to reason that they are living with guilt and shame, when the gospel being preached is money or psychology which are both lies.
---mima on 6/12/06

Making the change is hard; if we can investigate what caused the behavior, we can see how or why we should change it. Tradition, religion, culture and family are areas to look for clues to understanding our behavior. Once you understand, it makes changing a little easier. Psychology......I'm not sure why someone below would indicate that psychology is a lie, it is a branch of science that helps us to understand our mind and soul. It is very useful for gaining understanding about our behavior.
---Grace on 6/12/06

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People are controlled through guilt, fear and shame. Confession is part of the process, but there is another part. Instead of looking at a behavior as 'sinful' we can look at the outcome as an opportunity for improvement, a chance to grow and change. So, if we make an error in our behavior, we must acknowledge (confession) it to God and anyone that we hurt, and then make the change in our behavior. It is in this process that we find growth. Continued.....
---Grace on 6/12/06

There is no reason to have guilt or shame for our lives prior to being born-again. There is nothing wrong with feeling shame or guilt for sins we commit in our new life. The Holy Spirit will now convict us of our sin. Sin that we once saw no shame in, which if we still feel no shame for, we may want to check ourselves. An example would be that I had very profain language and saw nothing wrong with it, now I am bothered by hearing profanity from anyone and I feel really bad if I let a word slip.
---tofurabby on 6/12/06

Guilt & shame are absolutely tools of Satan. He uses our minds and emotions of our "past" as his battlefield. It's spiritual warfare! Many Christians who live in guilt & shame are letting their "past" emotions control their lives. Their faith & personal relationship with God is not yet matured enough to "TRUELY BELIEVE" they are "REALLY" forgiven of their iniquities.
---Fred_S. on 6/12/06

Maybe it stands to reason that they are living with guilt and shame, when the gospel being preached is money or psychology which are both lies. So little truth is being preached now, that most Christians have turned away from Jesus to another Jesus another gospel.
---Helen_5378 on 6/12/06

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