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Living Waters Speaking In Tongues

Considering John 7:38, "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water." What are the chances that the living water mentioned in this scripture refers to speaking in tongues?

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ACTS chapter 2.the Word of God is TOTAL truth or its a lie. Read what Paul says about 'building yourself up in your most Holy faith' 'praying in the spirit when you know not what to pray'' many many references to the prayer language in the New Covenant I thought many years ago tounges were ''of the devil''..why? I DIDNT KNOW THE WORD!! I was ignorant ( without knowledge).Having a hunger for God will turn a beleivers world upside down and watch God use them. GBY Pam
---pam9966 on 11/8/07

When GOD speaks, His voice is as the voice of many rushing waters.
---Cynthia_1 on 4/4/07

John 7:39 "(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet [given]; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)"

The gifts of the Spirit are many, not just the gift of tongues, but it seems that He is speaking directly of the Holy Spirit, not merely the gifts.
---lorra8574 on 4/3/07

Be careful when you say "you are possessed
by a devil when you speak in tongues." We know who is in Christ by their fruits and not if they have gifts or not. The possibility of blashpeming the Holy Spirit should be enough for you to remain silent and undecided on the subject, but when you speak out in words against God's gifts claiming "no tongues are from God" you are taking steps to blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Please remain silent and undecided on the subject.
---Matthew on 4/3/07

mi ma, living water is the HOLY SPIRIT. The Holy Spirit flowing through us is what that scripture is referring to, not tongues.
---Donna9759 on 4/3/07

That is the Holy Ghost refreshing you.
---betty on 8/22/06

Should read, "I know NOT what point..."

No wonder why no one responded! 8)
---John_T on 6/27/06

exzucuh, pardon my ignorance, but I know what point you are trying to make regarding the "living waters", Isaiah 28:11-12 and what Jesus said. Please clarify.

My point is that it is out of context to apply that Scripture to mean "tongues speaking is that living water of which Jesus speaks.

The application MAY be true, but better Scripture references are needed.
---John_T on 6/22/06

TS again I did not say you were yelling the loudest.
Are you admitting that you are the one that got stung by the bee?
Has the Holy Spirit has spoke directly to you? Does that pose a problem with you?
Read what John T posted on 6/21.
---Elder on 6/22/06

2. #3 I capitalize some words to make a point, not to "yell", and I called people blind not because they disagreed with ME, but because they were coming against the Holy Spirit and his work in people's lives. And yes, I DO get upset when something that is so plain and easy to understand right out of the Bible is debated and attacked and ridiculed by people who claim to love God. It's about time God's people "got upset" about some things going on in "the church" today
---T.S. on 6/22/06

John T:

I think I made it clear that I was not defending myself particularly, which should tell you that I was not taking the attacks personally. #2: I am not so ignorant that I believe the Holy Spirit NEEDS ME to defend Him- but He is precious to me and blasphemic statements about him yes, DO tend to get my blood boiling, just as if someone were personally attacking my husband or someone else I love dearly- I'm going to stand up for them.
---T.S. on 6/22/06

The rivers of living water is referring to the indwelling of the Holy Spirit after the Cross. The next verse says that the Holy Spirit was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified.
---Helen_5378 on 6/21/06

Isaiah 28:11-12 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
You people that will not hear, this is talking about you. you stiff necked people that will not know his rest, for the tounges are what he is prophesying as rest and refreshing
---exzucuh on 6/21/06

Fred S in his answer titled "Part 5"
and this answer""For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, EVEN AS MAY AS THE LORD OUR GOD SHALL CALL." Acts 2:39 from
---T.S. would seem to clearly answer this question.
---mima on 6/21/06

Are you becoming emotionally involved in a discussion?

I ask because
1) no one is directly attacking you
2) Holy Spirit, fully God, does not defend Himself, nor need us to do that
3) your capitalized words are emotionally-laden, and provocative: "unchristian, demonic, call those disagreeing w/you as blind"
4) you say, "I am very upset..."

Please take a deep breath, Consider walking away for a day, so you can get a different perspective.
---John_T on 6/21/06

There many claiming to have the signs gift today, but the true signs gifts are few and far between today.
---Thomas_D. on 6/21/06

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This makes Jesus "stutter", saying or inferring something clearly out of context.
Remember "Any verse taken out of context is a pretext"? This is the same thing.

Holy Spirit had not come to believers. (Pentecost, one or two years later)
---John_T on 6/21/06

2/2 Jesus is making an allusion to Moses striking the rock (he should have spoken to it; that was why God was angry)and the water flowed from it.

In order to make the Q here representing tongues, a connection has to be made between this, Pentecost and Moses.

Since Peter made the Joel connection to explain Pentecost, this is far-fetched at best.
---John_T on 6/21/06

Again, your comments make no sense. WHY would the Holy Spirit "convict" ME of standing up for and defending HIM?! I am passionate about this ("yelling" the loudest, as I believe you put it) NOT because I'm defending myself or MY belief, I am defending the work of the HOLY SPIRIT, and I'm very upset that you and others on here have been so ruthless in your blashphemic attack on HIM, calling His moving and His work in His people DEMONIC! It's scary how blinded you all are
---T.S. on 6/21/06

Has anyone here (T.S.) even read my 5 posts. It's pretty clear to me. Streight from the bible. Kind of hard to argue with.
---Fred_S. on 6/21/06

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We are to rebuke and reprove each other in the Spirit of Love, not in the spirit of condemnation. I John 1:5-10 tells us that if we have fellowship with God (Holy Spirit interacting with our own spirits), then we walk in Light and not darkness. If we walk in darkness, we do not fellowship with Him. Would you consider anger Light or darkness? The good news is that we can get back into immediate fellowship with God through our advocate, Jesus, if we repent and ask forgiveness right away.
---Loree on 6/21/06

"TS" did you take the time to notice that I used the word "if" also? It is you who thought the message was directed to you and now you have convinced me that it was. I told you it was not my intent.
I am also convinced that your fight is still with the convicting power of the Holy Spirit.
Someone said, "the kid that gets stung by the bee yells the loudest."
---Elder on 6/21/06

Do you realize how UN-CHRISTIAN LIKE that is?! Do you actually think God is pleased with the way you all are acting toward those of us who choose to allow His Spirit to fill us and take control of our lives? You all want to control HIM. We know better than to try that. What would you say if I begged you to stop hurting Him and Us by your mean spirited comments? Would it make a difference in your attitude???
---T.S. on 6/20/06

"Elder" your questions or comments make no sense. Did you notice I said "IF" you were referring to me....??? You and several others here have not the foggiest idea of who the Holy Spirit is, how HE works, or anything about His nature- because you have refused him, and have done nothing but ridicule, make fun of, and disrespect HIM and those of us who have accepted Him, going so far in some cases to imply that we are demon possessed instead, and too stupid to know the difference!
---T.S. on 6/20/06

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"TS" if you think I was speaking to you personally then I must have been. I didn't know it though. It is the Holy Spirit that convicts of the messages that are preached.
If you feel that I was talking to you your fight begins and ends with the Holy Spirit.
The application of Living Waters was applied wrong in trying to make it refer to languages.
Which do you think would please God more, your good feelings or a sinner getting Saved?
---Elder on 6/20/06

"Elder" if you are referring to me, I NEVER indicated that "what I have" makes me any better than anybody else. It is just frustrating to me to have so many so-called people of God be so blatantly disrespectful to the Holy Spirit on this blog! I love Him dearly, and it, well it just downright makes me mad when people run Him down and make fun of Him! I couldn't care less what they think of ME, but it's not ME they are attacking
---T.S. on 6/20/06

If people will stop showing what they have is better than what someone else has they might see the reference in John 7 go back to John 4 and the woman at the well.
Then we might even go to Eph 5:26 and see how God cleanses the Church. He does it with the Word.
If you will be clean it takes the Word of God to find out how.
---Elder on 6/18/06

OH yes, but it IS referring to "tongue talkers! The verse prior to that says so- READ IT!
---T.S. on 6/18/06

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T.S., The scripture you cited isn't about tongue talkers. I'm not trying to change you and if you like error that's up to you. I attended a pentecostal church for over 13 years.
---Thomas_D. on 6/16/06

He was speaking to the Jews, huh?

"For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, EVEN AS MAY AS THE LORD OUR GOD SHALL CALL." Acts 2:39
---T.S. on 6/16/06

We don't WANT to be changed, thank you! You think we would EVER go back to the lifeless, mundane existance we were living before the infilling of the Holy Ghost changed our lives and filled us with the joy of the Lord?! NO THANKS! I had enough years of meaningless, ritualistic "worship", leaving church just like I came, empty and knowing there was somethin more than what I had. THANK GOD I FOUND HIM, and I'm NEVER going back!
---T.S. on 6/16/06

T.S., Tongues as mostly used today are being used wrong. On pentecost those people heard in their on languages not what is done in most pentecostal churchs today. God said he would speak to this people with men of other lips and tongues and for all this they will not hear. God was speaking to the Jews. You can't change pentecostals, they have to change themselves.
---Thomas_D. on 6/16/06

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Because he thinks that the gifts that God has given, are dead, to me that is a slap in the face to God. Jesus is the living water, his spirit flows through us freely (or should). There is a song that Michael Combs sings, I'm Drinking From a Saucer, (cause my cup has over-flowed) it is a very touching song that can help you understand it better.
---Rebecca_D on 6/16/06

Herb- WHY do you keep insisting that tongues are demonic?! It's really beginning to annoy me. Have you EVER read Acts, and if so, what's you're 'opinion' of chapter 2???
---T.S. on 6/16/06

Since tongues are demonic in nature, I doubt it.
---Rev_Herb on 6/15/06

Rivers of Living Water is referring to the JOY of the Holy Spirit, that flows out of ones life to touch others. It's the life giving Word of God, and the anointing that makes those who are lost see something different about you. Remember the Word says "Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks" and "the power of LIFE or death is in the tongue"
---T.S. on 6/15/06

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part 5:
Again more: Ezek. 47:1-12 (too long to post)

Rev. 22:1 And he shewed me a PURE RIVER OF WATER OF LIFE, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

Jesus alsosaid to the woman at the well that He had WATER (word) that He would give her wherewith she would never thirst again.
---Fred_S. on 6/15/06

part 4:
And again and again:
Psalms. 29:3 The Voice (Word) of the LORD is upon the waters: the God of glory thundereth: the LORD is upon many waters.

Eph. 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of WATER BY THE WORD,

Rev. 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto LIVING FOUNTAINS OF WATER: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
---Fred_S. on 6/15/06

part 3:
In these waters, GOD was going to make an EVERLASTING (Eternal), COVENANT (SPIRITUAL Law).This was the WORD, the living water, the fountain of eternal life, that Moses was speaking about, and the prophets were speaking about, and Jesus and his Apostles were speaking about.

Again in Prov 18:4 The WORDS of a man's mouth are as deep waters, and the wellspring of wisdom as a flowing brook.
---Fred_S. on 6/15/06

part 2:
To know THAT NAME, that 'WORD' OF HEAVENLY DOCTRINE that comes as SPIRITUAL WATER in order to publish THE GREATNESS OF GOD. Again from the prophets: Isa. 55:1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Isa. 55:3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.
---Fred_S. on 6/15/06

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I think it is refering to The Word. Here's why: Deut. 3:1-3 Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the WORDS OF MY MOUTH. My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass: Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God. THE NAME OF THE LORD was to be found IN THIS HEAVENLY SCRIPTURAL RAIN (WATER OF THE WORD).
---Fred_S. on 6/15/06

None, upon 3 different occasions of being used as a vessel of healing (I've never spoken in tongues) I felt the Holy Spirit rush through me like a RIVER running wild.

I liken it to the time Jesus felt virtue leave him (Luke 8:46) and you know exactly what's happening.
---Friend on 6/14/06

About as much chance as a pre-trib rapture, and you know what I think of that teaching.
---Jack on 6/14/06

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