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Tithes To Church Or To People

Should a portion of a Christian's giving be done by himself directly or does at least 10% have to go to the church so that they do the giving? Who's the minister, Christians or the church?

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 ---Alam on 6/19/06
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Many churches abuse this teaching. 'Tithing' was old testament law. It was always food, and never money. Only land owners and animal herders were required to tithe. Poor city dwellers never did. A full 1/3 of the tithe went to feed the poor, disabled, and widows. The local church that demands a full 10% tithe today does not do this and violates scripture. The NT says the freewill offering is superior to tithing. All money given to any christian work may be considered a tithe. To learn more Google 'should the church teach tithing'.
---obewan on 8/6/08

First Jack has it exactly right. I would remind you that "we" are to be good stewards of our money the "we" here indicates that "we" should watch what "we" do with our money and where "we" give it. My wife wants full tax credit for any giving but this is wrong and in fact robs us of charity in our hearts.
---mima on 8/6/08

While we are not under the law of tithe due to sin, we are under grace of Jesus which is about love and giving. We are to be givers and joyful ones. We are to give to those in need. If that is to the needy good pastor then so be it. If that is to the widow and orphan, missionary or poor, then so be it. We are also to give of ourselves and all of our resources. Everything belongs to the Lord.:)
---jody_martin on 9/5/07

According to Malachi it says in Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

The church leadership will be held accountable at the judgment for what they do with the tithes paid to the church.
---denna7667 on 9/4/07

Giving blesses us, as well as who we give to. Paying tithes is not mandatory. It is voluntary. We give under Grace. Tithing is under the Law. We are no longer under the Moses Law. Be led in your giving by the Holy spirit, as well. Not because someone tries to shame you or make you feel guilty about not having $200 or some figure(of their imagination), to give. A lot of coaxing and making one feel guilty about giving, goes on in the church.This forcing and shaming is not biblical.
---Robyn on 9/4/07

According to the Bible you can spend your tithe money on booze.

Deut 14:24-26.
---Jack on 8/17/07

Keep talkin the truth.
God bless
---duane on 3/11/07

Adam, you are the should give 10 percent and if there are special needs voice your awarness to other members and especially the pastor and deacons.also you may give special offerings to people in need yourself.
---tom2 on 3/11/07

Where your treasure is, there is where your support will go. Seeing that the Levitical priesthood was changed because the law was changed (Heb.7) and we are now all priests, we have the authority to give as we please, not compulsively. It's up to us. I give to both as I see the need. But I will not listen to one who tells me that I have to.
---john on 7/11/06

Amen my friends. Giving is essential to love. Love is a fruit of the Spirit so giving is essential to the Christian. The greatest gift you can give is your soul. I think God would rather we give our life to Him so He may use it to plant seeds, not line the pockets of false teachers.
---Ryan on 7/11/06

I agree with you both, Melissa and Ryan. Some of our churches have members who are the poorest of the poor who would benefit from being the recipients of some of the tithes given by others. No way could they give 10% of their actual cash and still eat and buy their kids new shoes etc. However, they can and do often help the church in ways that the wealthy either cannot or do not. It is a good thing that God is more interested in our hearts than our wallets.
---M.P. on 7/11/06

Ryan ... you are so right.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/11/06

Also, I have never heard a pastor mention anything except money as acceptable tithing. I strongly disagree! I just posted a blog on this before I found this one. I feel that if someone is "religiously" giving that exact dollar amount every week, but giving nothing from their heart or their precious time - than what does the money really mean? Lots of rich guys think donating money is going to get them to Heaven - I think we know better!
---melissa on 7/11/06

Exactly - it is the way pastors go about the asking! In a small congregation, when they start talking about how people should pay their tithes to their home church (very specific request!), you are sitting there thinking that several people know exactly who is not paying their tithes. It feels very personal and finger pointing, especially when you are giving abundantly of your time to teach classes, help with VBS or prepare food for gatherings etc.
---melissa on 7/11/06

Tithing is a very personal act. I believe in contributing to the upkeep and welfare of the building, so I do support tithing. It's the way some pastors go about asking for it that gets to me.
I give offerings and gifts as I am led by the holy spirit.
---lynet on 7/10/06

Alan...Giving can be more than just money. I belive people forget this. Time, resources, food, clothing, these are all things that can be given. Too many people are hung up on money, especially buildings of worship. I think they forget the scripture that says God does not dwell in buildings made of stone. God does not need these buildings to reach souls...but man does.
---Ryan on 7/10/06

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Ryan ... I agree with you. Nevetheless, sometimes the church does need to remind people that it, and other causes rely on giving, and that it is unrelistic for a high eaerner to give 50 cents and think he has been generous. Sadly. there are many such.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/10/06

Alan... I agree a Christian may give freely and gladly, but should never be coerced into tithing by the body of worship they attend or a brother. Required tithing of personal income is a misrepresentation of scripture and a lie.
---Ryan on 7/10/06

There is no reason why a Christian may noy give a selected proportion of his income on a regular basis. It may be 5% or 10%, 15% or more or less, provided it is given gladly.
You may select to give it all to your church group leaving them to decide how to distribute, but I prefer to give about half direct to those causes, some of which are not specifically Christian, which interest me.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/10/06

This parable illustrates the comparison of the old covenant compared to the new covenant perfectly. Luk 5:37 "And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; otherwise the new wine will burst the skins and it will be spilled out, and the skins will be ruined. Luk 5:38 "But new wine must be put into fresh wineskins. Luk 5:39 "And no one, after drinking old wishes for new; for he says, 'The old is good.'"
---Ryan on 7/10/06

Read These Insightful Articles About Diabetes is true we have been "Grafted In" and that was accomplished through a new covenent. I love Romans especially chapter 8. A mind focused on the law is focused on the flesh but a mind focused on the Spirit will manifest fruit of the Spirit. The old covenant, law, (which includes tithing) has been set aside for a greater covenant, Grace.
---Ryan on 7/10/06

Donna...God is the same yesterday, today and tommorrow this is true however how God has dealt with man has changed several times from innocence to conscience to government to a promise to law to grace. We don't "pick and choose" we listen to the Holy Spirit that lives within us hence making the Mosaic law obsolete to the Christian.
---Ryan on 7/10/06

Ryan, we as Gentiles have been "grafted in." Read the book of Romans....are we to pick and choose what part of God's word we are to obey since God is the SAME yesterday, today and tomorrow?
---Donna9759 on 7/10/06

Mima ... you say "My wife wants full tax credit for any giving but this is wrong and in fact robs us of charity in our hearts" But if you take into account the tax credit you will get, it allows you to give more to the charity.
Just like the UK system, it makes sense. it is not uncharitable at all.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/10/06

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Malachi is not addressed to Christians, it is addressed to the Nation of Israel.
---Ryan on 7/10/06

Read Malachi 3-7-8 about tithing
---betty2 on 7/10/06

Christians are under no obligation to tithe. Israel tithed of the herd, flock, seed and land, they never tithed income. The tithe was established because the Levitical priests had no inheritance, other than the 48 cities in the land of Israel. The tithe was supplied to them for food, cloth, oil, and for the great feast that was celebrated once a year. Christians do not tithe, tithing is of the law and we are not subject to law.
---Ryan on 7/9/06

Tithes to the Ministry you are fed by. Offerings to the church you support. Gifts to the people you wish to give to. Love and God's word to all who will accept it. Remember, to some you share with, you are the closest to God they will ever come.
---mikefl on 6/20/06

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Mima in the UK we don't get tax credits on charitable gifts but, if we are tax payers, the charity to which we make a donation can claim the tax that we have already paid on that particular amount. This adds approximately another quarter of our gift for the charity concerned.
---emg on 6/20/06

Let God judge and MEASURE your generosity.
---Pharisee on 6/20/06

The Levitical priesthood has been abolished and we are the Church (believers). We all have the freedom to give as the Lord instructs us. I do think it is wise, if you are part of an assembly, that you will give to that so that the Church can function corprately as well as individually. There is no Scripture to show that tithes have to go to the assembly.
---john on 6/19/06

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