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Are Parts Of The Bible Missing

Could there be pieces missing from the bible? Could the jewish churches of the past taken out pieces of to make then seem not as bad? Could pieces be misplaced waiting to be found at a time God see's fit?

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The Bible quotes a dozen other books no longer in the Bible, and that not to mention the apoyphera.
---MikeM on 4/5/07

John 21:24-25
24 This is the disciple who testifies about these things and has written these things, and we know that his testimony is true. 25 There are many other things that Jesus did. If every one of them were written down, I suppose the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. (NET Bible)

There is plenty that didn't end up canonized or even written down for that matter. But what did provides the knowledge of Christ which adequate for salvation.
---JohnE on 4/3/07

Yes, there are parts of the Bible missing. It is the part where our eyes are reading and our minds and hearts are meditating.

Ok so I am a little out of it tonight lack of sleep I guess.
---MARK on 3/25/07

There is a clasasical case in the NT of a book being missing, the 2nd letter to the Corinthians.
In 2 Cor Pauls speaks about sending another letter to the church, and forom the contexct it is not either of the 2 existing epistles.
---mike8384 on 3/25/07

Dave "The bible says 21 books are missing"
I would be interested to have the scriptural detail of where the Bible says that.
---alan_of_UK on 3/25/07

John T and everyone else. give us all a break. just admit you do not want to know what the bible contains, because you would have to open your eyes and see something that contradicts your beliefs. The bible says 21 books are missing, NOT ME. Did not Jesus Christ himself quote from those books in the New Testament. How can any idiot say they were not inspired if the Son of God quoted them. Get off your high horse and believe the whole bible. stop confessing one thing and doing another.
---Dave on 3/24/07

No, no, and no.
---Eloy on 3/24/07

My Bible says: Ps 12:6+7 "The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord thou shalt preserve them from this generation forever." Jer. 32.27 "Behold, I am the Lord, the God of all flesh: is there anything too hard for me?"
---MARK on 3/23/07

There are 21 books written by prophets of God missing from the bible. The Books of Jasher and Wars of the Lord are two that I would love to read for my own curiosity. They are all mentioned in the bible. Many gospel truths were so clear when those books were written, but over time, men decided to invent their own doctrines. They also decided what would and wouldn't be included in our modern bible. Satan is crafty. By saying that is all there is, millions fall for his lies.
---Dave on 3/23/07

I would reword the question as follows: Do you believe in a closed Canon?

How many letters did Paul write to the church in Corinth?
---JohnE on 3/23/07

[2] They'll have to actually think about what they read without labels to prejudge them by! No blurb or profile about their education, a denomination they belong to or statement of faith they hold. And in our 'fast food society,' they're afraid it may be a waste of their time to even look for something worthwhile in them. If someone honestly has valid reasons to read only one book, it should of course be the Bible. But often people spend too much time seeking 'entertainment' instead of spiritual growth.
---danie9374 on 7/23/06

[1] Augusta, the reasons Christians don't read Early Church authors vary; some don't like the translation styles from 100+ years ago they've seen (and can't read the original Greek or Latin), and many prob. 'bought the lie' that only recent writers if not those from their own local geographic area are able to say something they can relate to! Prob. the fact generations have been rasied on TV/videos with almost no book reading affects them too. What all may fear the most, so never bother is this: [Cont.]
---danie9374 on 7/23/06

"Missing books" is usually a Mormon ploy.

All Scripture is inspired.... The books not included in Canon were rejected because they were NOT inspired. It is THAT simple.

Knowing that that there are 1000s of other books around when Scripture was being written does not mean they are all equal to Scripture.

It is almost like trying to add a Mickey Mouse comic book to the Encyclopedia Britannica just because they have the same pub date.
---John_T on 7/17/06

Jack writes: ..Makes as must sense as reading books by contemporary Christian popular writers, doesn't it?

Excellent point! I've often wondered myself why Christians will read contemporary commentaries & books all day long, but are leery to read the writings of Christians who lived much closer in time to Christ and the apostles - including those who even studied at the feet of the apostles personally. I will never understand it.
---augusta on 7/17/06

There is no 'wall of seperation' between canon scripture and the 'other books.' There were 30 book claiming to be the Gospels around 150AD. It was a long political process that formed the accepted canon. This is historical fact and remains so rather one accepts it or not. The RCC is the Church that formed the final canon, good or bad. 'Sola Scriptora is a idiosyncratic concept from the reformation, created by Luther, who later rejected it, 400 years ago.

Moderator - If you believe what you are stating, what Books of the Bible are missing?
---MikeM on 7/16/06

[3] studying 'false gospels' (and 'fakes' written hundreds of years later) is that the majority of them are full of heresies which would keep you from being saved if believed; that's why they were kept out of the New Testament. Some of the letters Jack mentioned, those written by early church leaders, do have valuable or interesting historical notes in them; but are not the same as Scripture.
---danie9374 on 7/15/06

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[2] Paul "opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned." (v.11). A number of churches, such as Corinth, have their 'dirty stories' written about, and are shown to have many problems in understanding how to live with each other as believers! So, no I don't think things were 'cleaned up' in the text until quite a long time later when various copyists changed bits of the text here and there (which know of because God gave us so many to mss. to compare). What I have found from... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 7/15/06

[1] Tina, getting back to your question, from what we read in the letters, the Acts and the Gospels, early Christians did *not* leave 'bad pieces,' as you guessed, out of these writings! The Apostles are portrayed as being faithless at times, often frightened, etc. and even after being filled with the Spirit, Peter (read Gal. 2:8-12) was shown as being passively caught up in a division with the 'circumcision party' vs. what he already knew as true, and... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 7/15/06


These writings were preserved because it was felt there was something of value in them, but they were never considered canonical scripture.

It wouldn't be a bad thing to get and read. Makes as must sense as reading books by contemporary Christian popular writers, doesn't it?
---Jack on 7/14/06

There is a collection of early Christian writings publised under the sensationalistic and inaccurate title of THE LOST BOOKS OF THE BIBLE. In the 19th century this same edition (illustrations and all) was publised as NEW TESTAMENT APOCRYPHA. It predates the discovery of the Didache.

It contains the 7 letters of St, Ignatius of Antioch, the Epistle of Barnabas, and others.
---Jack on 7/14/06

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The only thing missing from the Bible is your Understanding of it. Those who know the Holy Spirit Know better than to discredit God word. this is the ultimate lack of faith. We can only please God by Faith anything not of faith is sin, it is a sin to discredit Gods word.
---Exzucuh on 7/13/06

Notlaw--Actually, the Massoretic OT POSTDATES both the DSS and Christianity.

Not all the OT was found among the DSS, which does not in itself mean anything. What IS significant is that some of the OT books found are quite different from the Massoretic text.
---Jack on 7/13/06

Tina: To make my last statement crystal clear: YES, many books mentioned in ancient history and even in the Bible are missing in the sense we no longer have any copies of them, but they're not missing from the Bible since God has always been in control of what should or shouldn't be in Scripture! Just because we're unsure of a very small percentage of particular words within some books, that has no affect on what the Bible proclaims to any who really want to listen to God!
---danie9374 on 7/11/06

The part that is probably missing is "the half has not been told yet." And it will align with all that has been told.
---Frank on 7/10/06

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I am compelled by the Spirit to point out: There's a huge difference between the question "Are there pieces missing from the Bible?" (MOST DEFINITELY NOT!) and the fact there are books mentioned in Scripture which we do not possess! Although there's no Biblical support for particular translations being inspired, God certainly has made it possible for His people (first the nation of Israel; now all Christians) to have His authoritative words whenever they truly desired to obey them.
---danie9374 on 7/10/06

The Book of Jasher is definitely missing iy is referred to twice Joshua 10:13 & 2Samuel 1:18.

There were a lot more books found among the Dead Sea Scroll collections then just the Masoretic Old Testament.
---notlaw99 on 7/9/06

Eve--Please be specific about exactly WHAT that nasty old Vatican has hidden and destroyed--and how you know it was one time extant to have gotten hidden and destroyed to start with.
---Jack on 7/9/06

Shira, how does the Bible 'fit to the tee?' the Bible quotes over a dozen other books, thats a fact.
---MikeM on 7/9/06

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Yes, there are books missing. The Vatican has much that they have hidden (and destroyed). And there were many books, biblical and non that were destroyed in the Alexandrian libraries.
---Eve on 7/9/06

If parts of the bible were missing, tell me how everything in the bible fits to a tee. Man isn't smart enough to take out a verse here and there to suit themselves and still have the bible so complete and intricate. God said His Word would be preserved and it is. The "missing books" are not inspired, but they are good history. They were never part of the bible and was always kept seperate.
---shira on 7/9/06

When the king cut up the words of Jeremiah the Lord had him rewrite it. To think that God cannot protect his word and have it passed down in it's entirety is about like doubting and belittling him. And that is sin.
---Frank on 7/9/06

not sure about the old testament but historically the new testament is accurate.the process is done by reading text from different known dates that they were wriiten and then comparing..the gospels,and letters in the new testament were documented down thru history by the church as early as 135 ad, as being what was actually written.I believe the dead sea scrolls document some parts of job and others but not really sure.
---tom2 on 7/9/06

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The only part of the bible that was eliminated was the part you understand. The part God wanted is still there.
---Exzucuh on 7/8/06

Yes, there are.

As early as 100, Justin Martyr (+125) in his DIALOGUE WITH TRYPHO, A JEW, talks about how the rabbis were already doctoring up the Hebrew text to get rid of messianic references.

This is why Apostolic (as opposed to Reformed or Evangelical) Christianity has preferred the Septuagint, as it is based on a Hebrew text OLDER than the Masoretic one, which wasn't stabilized until 1100 AD.

And then there's the big hole caused by the elimination of the books called Apocrypha.
---Jack on 7/8/06

I believe that God has preserved and protected His Word down through the ages, and that what we have now is His complete Word. I do not think that pieces have been misplaced and then will be found -- that would amount to "adding to His words".
---Helen_5378 on 7/8/06

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