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Jesus Die For Our Physical Healing

When Jesus died on the cross, was it for our sickness in this life? In other words, was there physical healing in the atonement?

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Matt. 8 :14-17 comments that the physical healings of sickness and disease and the casting out of demons was a fulfillment of Is 53:4. Healing and deliverance is thus proven to be included in the finished work on the cross.
---john on 3/25/08

He healed his people in the OT Ex 15:26
He healed people while physicaly present on earth Matt. Mark. Lk. John
He healed people following his ascension to Heaven Acts 3:6-7

If anyone does not believe that God heals today, the burden of proof is certainly on them to demonstrate why.
---Bruce5656 on 4/16/07

physical healing is and always has been possible .most of jesus,s miracles were physical healings, and this was before his crucification.Now the pertinent issue was a spiritual healing of our spirits so that we might become acceptable in the sight of the father.Thats the real healing
---tom2 on 8/18/06

Donna, it seems that people do believe that their physical healing has been done at the cross, and that the one's that don't believe in that concept that get sick, get sick for unbelieve. I heard that mentioned many times. They insist that the person did not believe, that is why they are sick. They blame the person for even dying. Now, how dumb is that?
---lee_1 on 7/25/06

Jesus' stripes were from being scourged. Matthew 20:19, Mark 15:15 Luke 18:31-33 Isaiah 53:5. Easton's Bible dictionary: scourged-variously administered. In no case the strips to exceed forty. When we believe in Jesus as Saviour our spirit is reborn and our soul is healed of sin. We still have our sin nature or our flesh. Jesus can and does still heal people. When he healed someone, he said according to your faith. We are told to ask the Father what we will in Jesus name, and he will give it to us.
---Creamcup on 7/20/06

Does God heal today? YES. All healing comes from God, no matter the method.

Does God heal miraculously today? Yes, sometimes. One of the spiritual gifts is the "gift of healing".

Is physical healing provided for in the atonement? Does Scripture declare that it is? Does everyone who gets saved get healed at the same time? If a Christian gets sick does that mean he isn't saved?
No, No, No and No.
---Donna2277 on 7/20/06

Linda ... ~# B~ Christ died to save us from the spiritual result of our sin ... hell, or exclusion from heaven, or however you view our eventual conditon after this mortal life is over.
Illness, accident and death have always been with us ... and jesus did not promise to do away with any of that. It was our souls, spirits or whatever you call our future beings, that He was after
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/19/06

Linda ... ~# A ~ you seem now to say that no-one would be physically healthy but for Jesus being flogged on the cross. That is so illogical. How do yuo explain those before Christ who were healthy, and those unsaved today who are physically healthy
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/19/06

Linda ... I saw your response to Lee, and really, reading yuor previous "questions", it is clear that the "Questions" were implying the judgment of which he complained.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/19/06

Matthew Henry's Commentary-Christ's death was designed not only for an example of patience under sufferings, but he bore our sins, he bore the punishment of them, and thereby satisfied Divine justice. Hereby he takes them away from us. The fruits of Christ's sufferings are the death of sin, and a new holy life of righteousness,... And our justification; Christ was bruised and crusified as a sacrifice for our sins, and by his stripes the diceases of our souls are cured.
---Creamcup on 7/19/06

The Scripture you mention is not physical healing for all Christains get sick, all Christians die. No one is healed of the physical body completely until the corrupt changes to incorrupt at the time of our glorification. All people die in life and only the one's alive when Christ returns will not have to face death.
---lee_1 on 7/19/06

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement or our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 1Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
In both these verses and the verses surrounding them are discribing Jesus' suffering and death on the cross for our SINS.
---Creamcup on 7/19/06

"I do not live for myself as you do with all your powers I live for Christ for all His powers for I have none. I have Christ and he will carry me through. No force, no power, but Christ Himself. Who do you worship?"

Where did I say that "I" had powers? I said (over and over) that the power is in the Word, who is Christ. That is not ascribing the power to me but to Him. The one I ascribe the power to (Christ) is the One I worship.
---Linda6563 on 7/19/06

This is the question I asked you:

...then how was the health that you do have obtained?

What I said regarding the understanding being darkened was made in a general sense, not a personal one. I apologize if it seemed that way.
---Linda6563 on 7/19/06

(3) I sit on the chair by the grace of God. I write to you because of the grace of God. I am answring your dumb questions because of the grace of God. I live because of Him I walk because of Him and if I didn't I would still worship Him and thank Him. I do not live for myself as you do with all your powers I live for Christ for all His powers for I have none. I have Christ and he will carry me through. No force, no power, but Christ Himself. Who do you worship?
---lee_1 on 7/19/06

I didn't say anything to you. I asked you a question. If you have any health at all (and you do), it is because of the stripes that was laid on Jesus' back and no other reason. That was the only point I was making. Has nothing to do with more faith or being more spiritual or even thinking I am greater.
---Linda6563 on 7/19/06

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(2) as a matter of fact, my whole point has been to give the credit to God where you give the credit to yourself. And now you turn around and say, why I am not thankful for what the Creator did for me, you are saying I am not. And somehow saying you are. And so I should be thankful. You should be thankful you are even alive, and speaking from your mouth words that separate one from another. You didn't really ask me a Question you somehow moved your words to sound like you were.
---lee_1 on 7/19/06

Why did you say that to me Linda? What gives you the right to judge me? you will not let up and continue to compare your faith with others, as a special person. I owe everything to God. My whole life belongs to Him. Why would you say I don't? What gives you the right to say that?
---lee_1 on 7/19/06

To not be thankful to the Creator who provides all things well is to have the understanding darkened.
---Linda6563 on 7/19/06

Lee, just a simple question. If the loss of health is the eventual loss of life but you are still sitting at your computer alive and typing responses, then how was the health that you do have obtained? The devil? Adam? A fluke of nature? Or are you going to give thanks to the Creator of the new creation who said, "With His stripes I am and by whose stripes we were healed"? An attitude of gratitude for what we do have in Christ Jesus is the environment of growth for those things.
---Linda6563 on 7/19/06

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The answer to both questions is yes, for those who believe it.

And no, for those who do not.

Belief involves a inward trust, reliance and dependency upon the negation or affirmation of this.That belief will always be based on the truth one has received, accepted and embrace.That truth will be their guide and profession
---josef on 7/18/06

There is a physical part to salvation.But it is not something we presently possess in this world. This is clearly what
Rom. 8:22-25 teaches:

"For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body..."
---Donna2277 on 7/17/06

Great Bruce, just wanted to know how you felt since I read most of what you write. thanks for the answer.
---lee_1 on 7/17/06

Aside from your understanding of the question it's self, (I was looking at the last part:In other words, was there physical healing in the atonement? while you seem to be focused on the first part) we are in agreement. I was not intending to suggest that everyone will be healed every time.
---Bruce5656 on 7/17/06

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While Jesus was getting a beating, he was doing that so we could be healed, in Is 53:5 he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our inquities, the chastisment of our peace was upon him and with his stripes, we are healed.
---Rebecca_D on 7/17/06

#2 The work has been done at the cross. "For this purpose was the Son of God manifest, to DESTROY the works of the evil one." Since "every good gift comes down from the father of light." Where does bad things come from? The devil. We don't have to receive sickness on our bodies, we rebuke it and then PRAY and BELIEVE and RECEIVE.
We are healed by what Jesus did on the cross.
---Donna9759 on 7/17/06

tee, you used the word "everyone." God works all things after the counsel of His will. Is it God's will to heal everyone? I say YES. But will everyone get healed? I say NO. Why? Because I've seen people say they are believing God for their healing and then turn to hollistic healing medicines, or go to some other source for their healing, or simply don't believe they are already healed by God's word, "For I the Lord AM your Healer." There's much to be written on this topic.
---Anonymous on 7/17/06

Bruce, that was not the question asked, "ON the cross, did Jesus die for our physical healing" Of course Jesus healed many and He still does when and whom He pleases for His purpose and will, but is everyone healed physically because of the atonement? I would like to hear what you have to say on that.
---lee_1 on 7/17/06

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Throughout Scripture God reveals Himself through His names. When He calls Himself Jehovah-Rapha (Exodus 15:26), He is saying, "I am the LORD that healeth thee." He is revealing that His very nature is to heal.

As far as healing being part of the atonement. 1 Peter 2:24 makes it so clear I can't understand how there can be any question.

"He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree ... by his wounds you have been healed." (1 Peter 2:24)
---DoryLory on 7/17/06

"...without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness" Heb 9:22
The atonement is for spiritual wholeness, not physical health.
Otherwise, our physical imperfections would disappear when we are saved. A saved person who becomes sick would be no longer saved.

At the resurrection, our bodies will be changed. They will no longer be susceptible to sickness and death, but until then, they still bear the scars of the fall.
---Donna2277 on 7/16/06

No it was not for our physical healing, but for our Spiritual healing. Many teach that by his stripes we are healed meaning physical, but it means spiritual healing.
---Rev_Herb on 7/16/06

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