What Is Age Of Accountablility
"Age of acountability" is not Biblical but many people hold to this false doctrine. In Psalms 58:3 we read, "The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies." The Holy Ghost speaking thru David tells us in Psalm 51:5, "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me." The Bible tells us that we are spitually DEAD in sins unless the Lord given us a new resurrected soul (Ephesians 2:1-3, 2 Cor 5:17).
---Ed_from_IL on 9/16/07|
You are going to find varied opinions about this topic. You can find various scripture references that can be interpreted both ways on the service. But when you do in depth study on the concept I lead toward others in that it really does not exist.
As an aside example when the Mormon Armys were massacring wagon trains in Utah during the late 1800s the age of accountability was considered to be 8 years of age. Those younger were raised as Mormon, all older were killed as adults both male and female.
---notlaw99 on 9/14/07|
"...Knowledge 'puffs up' but charity [love] edifies [builds up]. If anyone thinks they know anything, they know nothing yet of what they should know." (1 Cor. 8:1-2)
God is just in all matters concerning us , from infancy to antiquity . (Is. 55:9)
---Leon on 8/7/06|
"May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world." (Gal 6:14). "Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall." (Proverbs 16:18). Mimic Paul, who in all likelihood exceeded you in knowledge of Greek, Hebrew, OT and NT theology, in boasting about the right stuff.
---Benny on 8/6/06|
Jack:)!!!? When David wrote Ps. 23, there was no temple. You may recall, his son, Solomon built the temple. So, your "...interpretation is an anachronism."
After reading Ps. 23 , are you saying 1.) David didn't believe in an afterlife & 2.) just where do you think the HOUSE OF THE LORD (where God dwells) is? Might it be Heaven? (Matt. 6:9)
No, I don't read either. BTW -- what carries more weight with you, i.e., Hebrew & Greek reading or Holy Spirit leading?
---Leon on 8/4/06|
**He said clearly in Psalm 23, "...and I will dwell in the HOUSE OF THE LORD forever."**
Please give book, chapter, and verse where David meant some kind of afterlife when he said "house of the Lord."
The general Hebrew use of this term referred to the Temple.
BTW--I read Biblical Hebrew and Greek. Do you?
---Jack on 8/3/06|
King David ABSOLUTELY believed in an afterlife. He said clearly in Psalm 23, "...and I will dwell in the HOUSE OF THE LORD forever." Even if you look up the meaning of "house of the Lord" in the original languages, it means a literal place where believers go to spend eternity with God - Heaven. It IS spoken of in the Old Testament right here, and this is not the only place either.
---Crystal on 8/3/06|
** Jack :) Are you saying David, an OT Jew (not a Christian) didn't believe in an after-life with the Lord in Heaven? (Psalms 23) **
I'm simply pointing out what Jews historically have actually believed.
The idea of a hereafter is NOT in the OT. Why do you think the Pharisees and Saducees (who denied souls, spirits, and even a resurrection) were opposed? The SADUCEES believed that they were preserving the pristine faith against the liberalizing and revisionist Pharisees.
---Jack on 8/3/06|
Jack :) Are you saying David, an OT Jew (not a Christian) didn't believe in an after-life with the Lord in Heaven? (Psalms 23)
You were quick to admonish Melissa to, "Read the Bible & look again." Yet, you're telling me to study the works of people like some guy named Wouk? No thank you! I'll study & stick with the Bible, a work of "my God" that I can without a doubt trust to be infinitely reliable in the subject matter of this blog, etc.
---Leon on 8/2/06|
What I have said about the Jewish idea (or lack) of an afterlife can be ascertained by study in readily avaialble works, such as THIS IS MY GOD by Herman Wouk.
Nothing there to suggest he would see his baby in heaven. You are projecting a Christian idea onto a very much pre-Christian situation.
---Jack on 8/1/06|
Jack are you saying David was comforted & subsequently comforted Bathsheba because he knew they'd one day join the child in the grave? (2 Sam. 12:23-24) How would that bring comfort to anyone?
"...the idea of an afterlife was not very developed among Jews of the time of King David."? Actually, David believed in an afterlife, beyond death, i.e., "dwell in the house of the LORD [Heaven] for ever." (Psalms 23)
David was talking about joining the child in Heaven Jack!
---Leon on 8/1/06|
I might add that the idea of an afterlife was not very developed among Jews of the time of King David. Some say the OT doesn't even mention the idea, that it came into being among the Jews after the Exile and before the Dispersion.
---Jack on 8/1/06|
The A.O.A. is an attempt to deny God having a "chosen" people; an attempt to subtly say it is how we live and not grace that determines our place with God; also a way to circumvent the concept of predestination (scriptural); and a way to appease parents rather than allow them faith in God's plan. We are the clay. He is the potter.
---mikefl on 7/31/06|
**David indicated that he would see the child again, which seems to show the baby would go to Heavan as an innocent who did not have the years, knowledge etc. to choose to follow God.**
What David said is that he would go to where the child was--namely, the grave--but that the child wouldl not return to him.
He did NOT say that "he would see the child again." Read the Bible and look again.
---Jack on 7/31/06|
Someone touched on this in an earlier blog subject - they referred to the son of David and Bathsheba who died. David indicated that he would see the child again, which seems to show the baby would go to Heavan as an innocent who did not have the years, knowledge etc. to choose to follow God. See II Samuel 12:23. There was a similar verse that supported this view, but I can't remember it.
---melissa on 7/31/06|
This lie that there is an "Age of accountability" was also created so the false doctrine that all babies that die go to heaven can be perpetuated.
---Ryan on 7/30/06|
There is no such thing as "The age of accountability." This is an extrabiblical saying made by Satan to confuse the children of God. I know it is extrabiblical by what is has produced: Factions, dissention, and disputes. These are not of God. Children mature to a point where they either accept or deny God, it is that simple.
---Ryan on 7/30/06|
Mrs. Morgan: What scriptures support your thesis?
---Madison1101 on 7/30/06|
It's when God decides that a person has enough of "knowledge" and "conscience".How much of knowledge and conscience is up to God to decide,He is Just, and ALWAYS make the right decision. Babies and small children definitely don't qualify as having enough of knowledge and conscience, but the older they get the more closer they get to that point, that's all we can say.Christians must raise their children in the way of the Lord, that helps alot!
---Mrs._Morgan on 7/30/06|
It's one of those phrases like "personal savior" that have been used so much, people think it's a scriptural term and teaching.
Actually, Ulrich Zwingli was the first one to opine that unbaptized children who died went to heaven directly unless they reached the 'age of accountability" first.
This was in direct contradiction to the centuries old Western teaching.
---Jack on 7/30/06|