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Is Mel Gibson A Bad Example

Has Mel Gibson just made a bad example of the Christian community with his recent DUI? How should Christians respond to this example?

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'How should Christians respond to this example?'
Realize he too is human and not to be idolized.
God knows his heart and whether he is truly saved, all else will be dealt with accordingly.
For the unbeliever that knows his ties to the catholic community, it is a black mark possibly keeping them from God, yet all things work toward good.
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what [is that] to thee? follow thou me.
---micha9344 on 8/7/10

Mr. Gibson is an example (good and bad) of someone choosing to be in the spotlight for others to scrutinize and criticize despite their own behavior.

It is also a good example of people assuming others Christian discipleship on surface actions (like making a movie or claiming to be born again) when the fruits show otherwise.
---aka on 8/7/10

just because Mel made a movie portraying Christ ...a movie many have outwardly protested had a subliminal anti-semetic undertone does not MAKE HIM a "christian"

Christ said MANY would call on His name having HIS Holy name dripping from their lips and they would be NONE of His

stop idolizing celebrities and their lives and boasting of their sins

Apostles said to work out YOUR own salvation not someone elses
---Rhonda on 8/7/10

Has Mel Gibson just made a bad example of the Christian community with his recent DUI? How should Christians respond to this example? - OP

Pray for him and stop judging him.

And be glad that we arent all in the spotlight so that our sins aren't exposed to the world.

Some of us here would prolly make worse examples of the Christian community. I'm no saint. Paul comes in 2nd place. I'm the chief sinner.
---JackB on 8/7/10

Friendly Blogger, your words were very true. What they protray in movies is not who they really are unless they are doing an autobiagraphy of themselves. Mel has alot of real problems and the reason everyone knows is because he is in the spotlight. Many believers have a lot of problems, even worse then him, but they are not in the spotlight, if they were, everyone would know about them. Whoever is without sin, throw the first stone. We are commanded to love our neighbor and pray for them. For it is God who changes people. The Catholic church has a lot wrong doctrines, but there is alot wrong with so many others also. Lets discuss doctrines in a godly manner. God works through the Truth of Scripture we present to others.
---MarkV. on 8/7/10

Actors just portray people, some of the people they portray are good examples and some are bad examples.

The actors craft is to make the the portrayal as believable as possible. and some actors are better at this than others.

The actor is not the individual they portray.

God chose who he wanted to be in his family before any of us were ever born so it is a done deal.

Let the actor do his/her craft and ignore their personal lives, as it is none of your business any way.
---Friendly_Blogger on 8/6/10

If you are using Mel Gibson or any other man/woman in the entertainment media as an example that is wrong. God said not to have idols. It is one thing to see the fruits of the person & to appriciate them, it's another thing to have to put your faith & your descision making in them over God.
---Candice on 8/6/10

Did anyone see John Wayne as the Roman soldier at the foot of the cross "Truly this man was the son of God"if he believed what he was acting maybe he made heaven...that would be great!...I wonder how many have called out to God from watching Mels film...I bet it has been a lot,so God bless Him...David had a few faults you know,should we start a blogg to knock him as well?
---richard on 8/6/10

If you can handle the naked truth you should read what---charles_fiorucci on 8/21/06 had to say..
---mima on 8/6/10

Yep, a bad example to himself & others. I've seen stars on tbn, they are on there hiding from something, even trying to hide behind christianity. There's No hiding place to be found.
---Lawrence on 8/6/10

I felt God impressing me to pray for Mel Gibson. His movies and the roles he take are really great. As I searched about him, I learned that he almost committed suicide. He did The Passion for his healing. This means he's searching for something in his life. There is a vacuum there that only God can fill. I think we need to pray more for him even for other celebrities. They need God as much as we do. More than prayers, if you can have access, reach out. If I can I would, but I don't have. God bless.
---lani on 5/9/08

Mel Gibson is not responsible for the public's view of Christianity. Madison's blog was right on target. I hope everyone has been praying for Mel and his family. I think that we should embrace this as an opportunity to say that Christian followers churches are not hotels for saints, but hospitals for sinners...and we are all sinners. It is easier for a sinner to identify with someone who does not pretend to be perfect and someone who loves the person no matter what.
---Amy9384 on 4/26/08

Mel Gibson is a professed Catholic. Catholics have no issue with drinking alcohol, at least when I attended they didn't. Mel Gibson is not perfect, and basically made a mistake that was made public, because of his celebrity status. Would you want any of your sins broadcast on the national news?

We should pray for him and thank God that "There but for the grace of God go I."
---Madison1101 on 9/4/07

mel gibson is a lost roman catholic following
a false gospel of false works such as the
false mass, praying to mary as an intercessor
how about first timothy 1-5 contrary to romish
teaching mel needs to be truly biblically
saved not the roman catholic way of purgatory
but through the finished work of the true jesus christ by what he did alone at calvarys
cross . mel needs to be born again the bible way but not sprinkled as a baby which rome
falsley teaches.
---charles_fiorucci on 8/21/06

Tracy, you hear a lot of people casting the first stone here on almost every question they do not agree. It is easy to give our opinion and that is why the personal questions that are stated always result in people getting angry with one another. Take the personal question about Liberals, do you see the real thing inside people when that question comes out? The results are incredible. All come short of the glory of God except for Morgan, Exzucuch and a few others. They are glorified already.
---lisa on 8/14/06

According to one of the yellow mags at the newsstands, he also has had a cocaine problem in the past years. In any case, he will be in re-hab trying to get the monkeys off his back.

While we appreciated his movie The Passion, it does not tell us what kind of person he really is or even that he is a Christian; only that he knows how to make money.
---lee on 8/14/06

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Come on people, after the way Hollywood treated the success of the Passion. Those same people couldn't wait to have a reason to jump on Mr Gibson. Mr Gibson was drunk and need to get a handel on that problem. There is no reason to make more of the issue than necessary.
---Judy on 8/3/06

I'm reminded of another man who messed up big time -- King David. Mel Gibson has his own demons, just as we all do. But no human being has been, is or will be beyond God's redemptive love. Mel will have to bear the resulting consequences of his actions, just as King David did. But if he fixes his eyes on Jesus he will emerge a stronger Christian and witness for the Lord.
---Benny on 8/3/06

Mel Gibson is imperfect just like everyone else. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. He is in the process of being made Christ like. He cannot be a man who is against Jews and yet professes the name of Christ at the same time. Mel was drunk yes, and this shows what can happen when we indulge. As Christians we should be on our knees praying to God to deliver Mel from his demons so that he can be set free. He that the Son sets free is truly free indeed.
---Traci_Rivera on 8/1/06

John, I think carnal Christians will condemn him, but those of us who can see beyond the carnal nature, know that he was drunk, not in his normal state of mind, he made a mistake, and we shouldn't make a big deal out of it. "Take the log out of your own eye before you take the speck out of someone else's eye." The only thing was, he committed a crime when he was driving drunk. Some things, as a Christian, you have to die to, or be delivered from through faith in the Son of God, amen?
---Donna9759 on 8/1/06

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What is a mans advantage if he GAINS the WHOLE wide WORLD and then LOOSES............. HIS SOUL?
---Carla5754 on 8/1/06

"I think the man was really trying to do something right when he came out with the passion of Christ ..."

Nothing too terribly wrong with trying to make a few bucks.
---lee on 8/1/06

Jack..You are right, it was passed from father to son. So where is it that priests cannot marry? I said the Pope is blocking the way to the Holy of Holies, not sitting in the Holy of Holies. If the CC believes you have to go through the CC to be saved, rather than Christ alone, wouldn't you call that blocking the way?
---kathr4453 on 8/1/06

My point is that more is made of a couple of anti-semitic remarks, as if this is the worst thing he did--and the idea of the police trying to "cover it up" was unthinkable.

Never mind that his DUI was a danger to life and limb of others. Never mind his obscene verbal abuse of the officers.

As more than one person has remarked, anti-Christianity is the last socially acceptable prejudice in certain circles--the same circles that would never forgive anti-semitism.
---Jack on 8/1/06

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I am saved, I know I am save, because Jesus lives in my heart. You may judge me all you want, that doesn't change anything.

As far as Baptist not accepting privious baptism, What if someone was baptized into the Wicca Religion, and then become a Christian, Should a baptist church accept there baptism? Why do you think they call us BAPTIST? If you were baptized into the Cathaloc religion, should we accept that one also. You don't need to be baptized to go the heaven.
---Rev_Herb on 8/1/06

The scriptures are clear about where some seeds fell. okay his seeds must have fell where some grew and the movie came out of that seed, he explained that doing the movie increased his ''faith'' (how much)?, what he capitalised on was already written he just made himself very very rich and more popular through the film. He is no messiah!
---Carla5754 on 8/1/06

Well, he definitely is anti-semite. You figure it out.
---Salitine on 8/1/06

Mel Gibson isn't a minister, If he were it would then be an issue. I think the man was really trying to do something right when he came out with the passion of Christ, and God was looking, I pray that he overcomes his problem by leaning on God for help.
---Mrs._Morgan on 7/31/06

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First, Mr. Gibson is a professional actor. He is wealthy enough to produce movies. He has made/been in excellent movies and hard core movies. He has not promoted a Christian atmosphere in but 2 I know of. YET, he is human as most of us are. He is NOT a standard for Christian profile just because he produced a box office hit about Christ. Pray for him as you would any brother with millions of dollars and the trials brought on by his popularity. It may not be the time to judge...
---mikefl on 7/31/06

Ryan: I notice you said "the temptation will grow weaker and weaker" and did not say that the temptation will go away forever. While we are new creatures, sometimes we go back to our old nature. Praise God that we don't have to stay in that old nature, and we can repent, be forgiven and continue our walk with the Lord. But, I live in reality, where I still sometimes "miss the mark" and sin. When I do, I am forgiven based on 1 John 1:9. Praise God for His grace and forgiveness.
---Madison1101 on 7/31/06

Christians should respond by forgiving him for saying such horrible things, and simultaneously committing not to say such horrible things themselves.

Someone asked if people would be outraged if he abused a christian answer to that is WHY DOES THAT MATTER. He picked on a minority...just as jesus stood with the poor and sick, we need to love and protect the minority.
---frank_cos on 7/31/06

Mel Gibson has a movie that is coming out soon called, "Apocalyptic" Has to do with the end times. I for one am glad that he had the courage to make "The Passion of Christ" it was a great movie that all Christians should see. The reasons he made it were many and no one really knows what is in his heart. I do believe he is a Catholic and its a shame because many didn't even have the desire to see the movie. One great example of the death of Christ and what He went through for our sins.
---Lupe2618 on 7/31/06

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Jack: I love that word. I had to look it up. Thanks for expanding my vocabulary. :)
---Madison1101 on 7/31/06

"He is a human just like us. he has temptation just like us, he gives into temptation just like us."
This is the lie Satan has been allowed to perpetuate in the body. This attitude denies us becoming a new creature with a new heart. Focus on the Spirit and you will be a child of God producing good fruit, not "just human". Focus on the Spirit and He will grow in you and the temptation of flesh will grow weaker & weaker.
---Ryan on 7/31/06

**Thinking the Pope cannot make a mistake on religious issues**

Actually, this is not what the RC church teaches on papal infallibility. The pope may well err in a strictly prudential pastoral opinion, or when speaking as a theologian.

Papal infallibility is severely limited and restricted to certain conditions. (I'm sure that the differences between the official teaching and Protestant perception are too subtle for some people to grasp.)
---Jack on 7/31/06

I find it interesting that the TV reports are making a big deal not over Mel's violent behavior, verbal abuse of the police, or obscene remarks to female officers, but that in his drunken raving he made "anti-Semitic remarks" that the official report decided to tone down.

What if he had made, say anti-Methodist remarks? Would there be such an upset if these were suppressed?
---Jack on 7/31/06

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kathr4453: The Levitical priesthood was passed from father to son.

How can this be done when priests are not allowed to marry to start with?

And where did you get the idea that the Papal Apartment was the same thing as the Holy of Holies?

I've never seen such ultramontanism in my life!
---Jack on 7/31/06

You know rev herb the Baptist believe you have to be baptized into the Church but true doctrine is we are baptized into the Father,Son and Holy Ghost, thats why I could never be a baptist, they would not reconize the baptism I had already received, If we are going to find false doctrine I can find some in your church to.
---Exzucuh on 7/31/06

Rev. Herb...Amen! The Catholic Church has re-established a Levitical Priesthood, now run by a Gentile. Go figure. Why go back to what was incomplete, when we have now Christ, who is our High Priest. They make a remembrance day after day of their sins. I see the Pope, standing in the doorway of the Holy of Holies, blocking the way to the Father.
---kathr4453 on 7/31/06

Wow, it's amazing how quick we are to judge folks. Jack, thanks for your practical responses to some of these posts. We need to understand that sin is ever present, we ALL fall short of the Glory of God, and the only One perfect God crushed, in our place, that we might be reconciled with Him.
---daphn8897 on 7/31/06

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Being a Christian does not make you incapable of sinning.
"Backsliding" does not mean yuo are no longer Christian, or no-longer "saved"
Thinking the Pope cannot make a mistake on religious issues is no worse than anyone trusting one of us here to be right on everything, but there seem to be some who imply they are.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/31/06

He is a human just like us. he has temptation just like us, he gives into temptation just like us. I have never heard of Mel claimed to be a born again Christian. I could though ask his parents, to see how Mel really lives his life, they live about 10 miles from me.
---Rebecca_D on 7/31/06

**Didn't he use foul language in many of his movies?**

Art reflects life, and many Christians--even born again ones--use foul language from time to time.

Deal with it and get over it.
---Jack on 7/31/06

When did Mel Gibson ever claim to be a born-again Christian in the first place? Didn't he use foul language in many of his movies? (not a good witness at all!) He made a wonderful movie in the "Passion of the Christ" - I assumed he had to be a Christian to do that, but this latest DUI thing shows that he either was not born again or has backslid into sin. Let us pray for him. It will cause people to view him as a hypocrite because of the Jesus movie.
---melissa on 7/31/06

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Rev Herb--You SAY you're saved, but are you really? According to your OWN words and logic, not every one who says he's saved and a Christian is really so.

Remember, the same judgement you use to judge others will be applied to yourself! (Matthew 7:1)
---Jack on 7/31/06

I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour, I pray to God throught Jesus Christ. I was saved by grace, not works. Catholics are saved by works not grace. They pray to Mary, Not God. They worship a piece of bread. They believe in the pope. They believe the pope cannot make a mistake when speaking about religious things. Who or what are you trusting for your salvation?
---Rev_Herb on 7/31/06

If Mel Gilson has a drink problem and is dealing with it then God is probably dealing with him. There are Christians in many denominations fighting the same demon (drink) and many other demons. With God's help those who truly trust in Him will come through it. We all sin and need help, not condemnation.
---f.f. on 7/31/06

Is there ANYONE on these blogs who would present himself (or herself) as a sterling example of the Christian community?

Retire to your prayer closets before you answer.
---Jack on 7/30/06

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I read in todays paper that Mel Gibson has had an alcohol problem for years and that he is dealing with it.
---lee on 7/30/06

Lets all worship rev Herb he must be God he can see Mel Gidsons Heart and knows the intentions of his mind.
---Exzucuh on 7/30/06

Did you hear about Mel's statement that Jew'w were the cause of all the wars? He later retracted.
---Rev_Herb on 7/30/06

**How can you say the Mel Gibson is a bad example of the Christian community? He is a Catholic and lost anyway, not a Christian. Unless you think that all who calme to be Christian are.**

Well, YOU claim do be a Christian, don't you Rev Herb?

Applying your own words to yourself, why should we believe YOUR claim to be a Christian? Just your claiming to be a Christian doesn't make you one.
---Jack on 7/30/06

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I agree with what Madison wrote. Christians are followers and believers of Christ, not man. People will let us down, because are we not perfect. Any good in us is Christ and Holy Spirit working through us. I for one am no better than anyone. I don't have any room to talk about someone else's sins until it I get the log out of my own eye. If Gibson has believed in Jesus as his Saviour, he is saved RC or not.
---Creamcup on 7/30/06

Rev Herb; Why do you want to usurp Gods ability to lift up to heaven whom he will lift up to heaven? Mel Gibson seems life a nice man of faith, believes in Christ, and who has made mistakes. Does his membership in the RCC precllude everything? I am not RCC, never will be, but I am also not God.
---MikeM on 7/30/06

Mel is good example of a Christian. We sin, we fall, hold onto unforgiveness,hurt homeless people by avoiding their eyes. He's a man with weaknesses like us.Prov 24:10 If you faint in the day of adversity,your strength is small. Get up, Mel. Walk back up the hill.
---Rachel on 7/30/06

For those that drink, it is very easy to go over the limit and become intoxicated particularly at a party. In our State, anything over 2 drinks and you are legally drunk, and how many people limit themselves to just 2 drinks?
---lee on 7/30/06

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How can you say the Mel Gibson is a bad example of the Christian community? He is a Catholic and lost anyway, not a Christian. Unless you think that all who calme to be Christian are.
---Rev_Herb on 7/30/06

Drunkedness is a sin, not drinking as such.

But every sip of wine or beer or a cocktail is not an act of drunkedness anymore than every bite you take is an act of gluttony.

I'm sure many of you have heard sermons on "Thou shalt not drink", but how many have heard sermons exhorting against gluttony?

It seems to be a vice quite acceptable and popular in certain evangelical churches. Ever been to a parish pot luck?
---Jack on 7/30/06

I knew I was smarter than Mel ... I never got caught. Joke about my old church ... wherever you see three Episcopalians you'll find a fifth. Used to call me "Whiskeypalian". I am no longer a drinker or an Episcopalian. They have church functions and serve beer! Not my style.
---Nellah on 7/30/06

Well said, Madison.
---Jack on 7/30/06

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If people use Mel for an excuse to not believe they are looking for excuses. Mel is a man. Christ is to be sought and feared. His movie about Christ is admirable but does not make him a pillar in the church or even a Christian. His fame makes him no better than anyone else. Seek Christ and take your focus off this world and mere man. Worshipping the creature more than the creator has made these men rich. Television preachers among them.
---Frank on 7/30/06

He made a mistake. He has said sorry.Case closed.
---pkay on 7/30/06

I hope and pray that the Lord Jesus Christ will set Mel Gibson totally free from alcoholism, and that if he is not saved that the Lord will save him.
---Helen_5378 on 7/29/06

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