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Can Angels Have God's Grace

In your understanding of grace, do you believe that grace has ever been or can ever be extended to include angels. Or said a another way are angels objects of God's grace?

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If we truly saved, THE LORD give us discernment to understand the spiritual things, that otherwise we wouldn't be able to do so!

How can angels that are Ministers of GOD, be who they are - if not by GOD'S GRACE?

THE LORD said: That those who are Born Again from HIS SPIRIT, are going to be like the angels, and so what brought us unto HIM and saved us from start - if not by HIS GRACE?.
---Melody on 9/11/18


Everything in the universe is an object of God's grace. Everything would instantly disappear without it.
---Johnny74 on 9/11/18


StrongAxe

Fair enough...
---Loony1 on 10/24/17


We don't. Perhaps it's both.
---StrongAxe on 10/23/17


StrongAxe

I see your point. But how do we know that this whole section isn't metaphoric rather than literal? How do we know whether it's speaking of a real angel, or just of a king who has exalted himself too highly?
---Loony1 on 10/23/17




Loony1:

You wrote: How can we be sure this passage in Isaiah refers to Satan?

How many other people do you know who fell from heaven?
---StrongAxe on 10/23/17


Revelation 21:17 Then he measured the thickness of the walls and found them to be 216 feet across (the angel called out these measurements to me, using standard units).

Sorry Haz27, here is another version of Rev 21:17. I believe is accurate since it was the Angel communicating with John. It says or means nothing about the appearance of an angel.
---kathr4453 on 10/23/17


StrongAxe

How can we be sure this passage in Isaiah refers to Satan?
---Loony1 on 10/23/17


Loony1:

"Lucifer" is Latin for "light-bearer". It is used in the KJV to translate Hebrew "Heylel" in Isaiah 14:12:
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

The Greek Septuagint translates this as "heosphoros", or "bringer of dawn".

The word "lucifer" (uncapitalized) was also used to mean "candle", or the planet Venus (i.e. the morning star).
---StrongAxe on 10/23/17


Why do people think that Satan's name is Lucifer?
---Loony1 on 10/22/17




Angels followed Lucifer who turned from GOD. How they could do that I don't know. I just know Lucifer or the devil is real. Evil is real.

I believe the Bible.

Agape.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/22/17


Speaking of angels, what do they look like?

Rev 21:17
Then he measured its wall: one hundred and forty-four cubits, according to the measure of a MAN, that is, of AN ANGEL.
---Haz27 on 10/22/17


Samuel

If angels are sinless, how could they turn from God?
---Loony1 on 10/22/17


So, the angels that have never sinned "deserve" eternal life? "Deserve" God's goodness? Grace is God's unmerited favor extending to all of His creation. "Deserve" is a man-made word that we want to extend based on what we know. God is so far outside of us, that we are limited in our ability to understand or talk about grace.
---Joyce_Anderson on 10/10/17


True Kathyr. Good point.

Angels were sinless till they turned from GOD. We are sinners who need grace to save us.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 9/5/17


Joyce, angels are not SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH. Those disobedient Angels have no hope of being redeemed.

And if TRAV cares to,read Ephesians, the Grace of God is to both Jew and Gentile.

I'm not sure you have a proper understanding of GRACE in the NEW TESTAMENT era. GRACE is the finished works of Christ....that does not extend to fallen angels, but has been extended to ALL MANKIND. Angels are not considered "mankind".
---kathr4453 on 9/5/17


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If grace is God's unmerited favor, then grace has been extended to all of God's creation.....
---Joyce on 8/1/17

There is not enough information spoken in scripture about anyone other than Israel or their fathers to cement/foundation the statement you made.
It is a personal desire of all...but, not ever stated.

What is stated and witnessed one end to the other:

Mat_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Heb_8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
---Trav on 8/31/17


If grace is God's unmerited favor, then grace has been extended to all of God's creation because none of His creation "deserve" anything that He has given. Grace is an expression of God's character of love. Adam had grace BEFORE he sinned.
---Joyce on 8/21/17


Of course or they would ALL be in darkness waiting for the day of Judgment.
Most people don't even believe that angels eat food(manna).
Alot of people think that angels are Winged Spirits w/o form.
Each angel has his own purpose, oh yeah thats another thing, Angels are males,
I havn't heard of 1 angel that has a womens name!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/29/08


I agree with Helen and Ryan in their answers to this question.
---Mima on 6/29/08


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Yes! Thank you Jesus. God's grace does indeed extend to His angels. Angels, like man, were created by a special act of God. They did not evolve into being. [Psa. 148: 2,5]. Angels, like man, may have been made in the image of God. This image of God consists of two things. Personality and holiness. Personality gives the basic capacity to have fellowship with the person of God. Holiness provides the basic requirement to enjoy that fellowship.
---catherine on 6/28/08


Sorry, your logic is not even correct. Every person has a soul, does not mean that every person through God's grace will be saved. That is not Bible that everyone will be saved. Just that His grace is extended to include the Gentiles and the Jews.>>>And angels. They also worship God.
---catherine on 6/28/08


No, angels are not objects of God's grace. They have no Messiah. Look at the angels in tartarus they will receive no mercy. Angels were created by God to do His will. If they leave their post they will be thrown into the lake of fire.
---Ryan on 6/28/08


Angels do not need grace because they do not have a soul.
---Helen_5378 on 8/7/07


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Angels do not have grace nor do they have Salvation. When Lucifer and His angels fell from Grace, along with the others angels who fell in Gen 6:1-4 (cf. Peter 3:18-22, 2 Peter 2:4, 5, and Jude 6, 7), they didn't get a "second chance".

Why? These angels knew God, they saw Him face to face! Just imagine for a minute. They knew Him better than we! Humans, however, have at least a second chance to reconciled themselves with God. Angels are not objects of God's salvation plan.
---Ramon on 8/6/07


Lucifer & his angels are now satan/(d)evil one, & the angels God placed under his authority who rebelled with him, & still following him are demons, fallen angels, etc, except for those ".. in chains of darkness ..." because of Gen.6:4, Cp. II Peter 2:4, Rev.12:7-12.".

Again God's Grace came through Messiah/Jesus Christ [then in The Bosom of God His Father] for fallen mankind.
---bob_[Elishama]_6749 on 8/6/07


Grace means favour. Luke 2:52 The grace of God was upon Jesus. Luke 1:30 The grace of God was upon Mary also.Certain angels have been given favour all through the Bible times. But in the way of grace for the forgiveness of sin, to be reconciled, no. Fallen angels will all have their part in the lake of fire at the end. I see no Scripture for them to be reconciled.
---john on 8/6/07


Angels don't need God's grace. When Satan tried to take power from God, along with some angels, they were cast out of heaven. After that, we don't read of any additional angels rebelling against God.
---wivv on 8/13/06


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I suppose it could be said that the very reason angels exist to start with is a special grace from God.
---Jack on 8/11/06


Grace comes to born-again Christians through the Cross of Christ in Jesus' finished work there. No angels are not objects of God's grace. Grace is for humans only.
---Helen_5378 on 8/11/06


Grace is the unmerited favor from God or just favor if you're so led to believe. It's by grace that we are saved,through faith in that grace. (Eph.2:8,9)Yes he has extended that to angels; It's His nature!
---Robert on 8/11/06


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