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Do you think that weather manipulation exists? I was told in a seminar that it does they had good points. It was based on end time. Have you heard of HAARP?

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 ---judit4846 on 8/28/06
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There is a place in China where all the bees have died off or disappeared. The people in the community area hand pollinate the trees etc.

I saw this on the discovery Channel. Kinda scary.

As bees are transported around the world for pollination, there were bee's from some country...I can't remember what, that were infected and infected other bees.

In China however they said it was because of strong insecticides they used before knowing how dangerous they are.
---kathr4453 on 2/21/08

Several months ago, I read an article that hypothesized that bee colonies have been mysteriously dying off, and the reason was hypothesized to be caused by cellular phone towers.

However, shortly after this, a correction came out that said that the reason was subsequently found out to be a specific fungus that interfered with bee navigation, and had nothing to do with cell phones or any other electromagnetic disturbance.
---StrongAxe on 2/19/08

Scientific instruments installed at the HAARP Observatory will be useful for a variety of continuing research efforts which do not involve the use of the IRI but are strictly passive. Among these studies include ionospheric characterization using satellite beacons, telescopic observation of the fine structure in the aurora, and documentation of long-term variations in the ozone layer.
---Amy9384 on 2/19/08

The technology to eliminate dead zones 60 miles up has been surpassed. The purpose of Haarp as earlier presented is obsolete. Underground vision is used for mining r&d at an incredible cost, I believe the increments are per hour. There are mumerous complaints, it was by these that it came to my attention.
---jhonny on 7/3/07

The melting of the polar ice caps could very well be the result of manipulations of HAARP, as well as a lot of the other weird weather patterns we've seen in the past number of years. Floods, hurricaines, tornadoes, drastic temperature fluctuations, etc.

Anyone can do an internet search on HAARP ... as well as CHEMTRAILS.
---Chipper on 7/3/07

Ps.14:1 "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God."
According to scripture such claims of omniscience mark the voice of a fool. Man has the right to speak truth concerning what does exist, but only God has the omniscience to be able to declare what "does not" exist. So when one pretends to know that which only God can know, scripture identifies him as a "fool".
---joshua on 4/26/07

Answer no more a fool according to his folly.
---Observer on 4/26/07

Once again you show your ignorance regarding "bee migration". Do your homework man and don't be so foolish.

"It is better to keep ones mouth shut, and be thought a fool, than to open it, and remove all doubt"!
---Chipper on 4/24/07

ORange yu funny! Yes, as a matter of fact. Like to see people working out their brain cells, (especially now that cell phones are killing 'em). Am I wasting my time?
---joshua on 4/24/07

Orange you glad we brought all this up for you, Josh, so you can talk about this scifi stuff?
---Orange on 4/24/07

Bees "migrate" between the hives and the flowers, probably what you'd term "commute". And they even dance to show other bees the way. Now there's a conspiracy for you, depending on what defintion of "conspiracy" you use in your "anticonspiracy conspiracy." Apparently you're in that camp since I never even heard of the whatchamacallit robbers.
---Joshua on 4/24/07

The CCD (colony collapse disorder) wherein bees seem to get lost and not find their way back to the colony could be caused by electromagnetic interference from things like cell phones. Landau University just announced that bees refuse to return to their hives when mobile phones are placed "nearby". Geographical correlations might disprove it. UV from the sun, which is harming a lot of animals, is a far more likely suspect than Haarp (which knows some frequencies that affect humans.)
---joshua on 4/23/07

Has the purpose of all that technology changed from ist alleged purpose? You say: cell phone interference have with the migration of bees.

Given the fact that BIRDS, not bees migrate, and the fact that NO ONE has proven your thesis, you seem to be one believing conspiracy theories, having no merit.

Some people in that camp also believe in the Gadianton Robbers. Do you?
---Observer on 4/23/07

Has anyone heard about the interference that cell phones have with the migration of bees? I'm told that it messes up their migration patterns and they get lost and do not know how to get where they need to go. As a result, pollenation is thwarted. This could affect many crops.
---Chipper on 4/22/07

Did you hear the mainstream media report yesterday that China admitted to conducting successful weather modification? They've been saying such stuff for years; as least as far back when the Soviets offered to create a typhoon to put out Indonesia's forest fires. We always knew media was deluded.
---Joshua on 4/22/07

We always knew media was deluded. They reported yesterday China admitted to successful weather modification. They haven't said too much since a few years ago when the Soviets offered to create a typhoon to put out Indonesia's forest fires. But weather modification has been known for years by scientists who keep informed. But Haarp's primary use is military communications and research into the auroras and Earth's ionosphere.
---Joshua on 4/22/07

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Chipper, you use THAT to justify your delusion? Pity. Illogical.

((((shaking my head))))
---Observer on 4/20/07

You're not very OBSERVENT are you?

50 years ago, if someone would have told you that you could be standing in the middle of nowhere and hold a conversation with someone whose voice you'd reccognize, and on a device that was not connected to anything ... you would have said they were crazy.
Today we have "cell phones".

I think you might be living in a cave somewhere.

The Egyptians in Moses day never saw a car either.
---Chipper on 4/20/07

You don't debate fictions, yet you debate Haarp? You either believe its real, or are a liar. I know it is real. I've seen it, the funding documents, and listened to people who worked there. If you got out of your own little fantasy world where all things exist as you want them to be, you would likewise see amazing things greater than your comprehension. Maybe then God could open your heart to His infinity, and replace your sadly finite mind with His. Try it. Can't hurt, but will if you don't!
---Joshua on 4/19/07

Delusions exist in the minds of the deluded.

Arguing about them will not change the fact that they are delusions.

Just like the Gadianton Robbers, supporting evidence of HAARP is found only in the minds of deluded conspiracy theorists.

I refuse to debate delusions nor the Easter bunny. Neither exist.
---Observer on 4/18/07

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Is it a hoax to assert something can be "impossible" and "improbable" at the same time? Contradictions are the fingerprints of lies.
---Joshua on 4/18/07

Oh, by the way, "Observer", I would recommend you observe the US Air Force Report to the Pentagon last year, entitled "Owning the Weather by 2025." It is declassified on an internet near you. I'm sure you would be shocked into disbelief by what your own gov admits is possible.
---Joshua on 4/18/07

And everything on the Internet is true, right?

Physically it is impossible, the energy of a thunderstorm surpasses that of an atomic bomb. Can any manipulate climate then?

Economically, the cost of needed energy is prohibitive.


Do you also believe in Santa?
---Observer on 4/16/07

HAARP: High Altitude Aural Research Program. It is real and it is located in Alaska. Look it up on the internet and see photos.
Not only can they try to manipulate the weather patterns on the globe but these waves can affect the migratory patterns of birds and other fowl.
---Chipper on 4/16/07

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Worship the God who makes ALL things possible, instead of the one who knows only that which is not possible.
---Joshua on 4/15/07

---Observer on 4/14/07

It's a multi-billion watt radio transmitter in AK like at least a half dozen similar "ionospheric heaters" on the planet. Some of its Congressionally funded uses are EPT (underground vision), star wars applications, and weather modification. True researchers know weather modification is being done. A couple years ago they used it to rain fire down from the sky. It can discharge ionospheric lightning bolts possibly greater than "natural ones". Red moon will be something else.
---Joshua on 4/13/07

Do tell us how it works! HAARP looks like a big radio transmitter to me... Love to hear more.
---Amy9384 on 4/13/07

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Helen: Witchcraft and sorcery has no meaning in Greek or Hebrew. That's how it was deciphered into KJV. In a nutshell: witchcraft (being a popular term at the time the Bible was deciphered) equals sorcery equals pharmakeia (Greek, Plato used the phrase as the proper use of drugs). Later William Barclay says that pharmakeia began to denote the misuse of drugs. Look up The Greek scholar, W.E. Vine; Standard Bible Encyclopedia; Strong Dictionary 5331, 5332, 5333; Galatians 5:20; Revelation 9:21; 18:23
---Steveng on 9/2/06

I'm not a mormon actually I'm not into any particular religion but attend services at either non-denomination or penticostal. But you know satan can uses and I'm sure he will use many tacticks to lead many astray. I'm sure he'll use men to do many things that may seem impossible at the time.
---judit4846 on 9/2/06

Steveng - I don't know what you are reading, but it cannot be the Bible because what you said is not in there (pills, and heal ourselves).
---Helen_5378 on 9/2/06

How many of the bloggers here believing in HAARP able to change climate, etc. are Mormons?

They are great believers in conspiracy theories, like Gadianton robbers, and that someone is always trying to mess up the weather.
---John_T on 9/1/06

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Scripture says that in the end times people will depend upon pills for everything imanginable instead of relying on God to heal ourselves. That's how weak in faith people have gotten. If we had as much faith as in a mustard seed, we could definately heal ourselves.
---Steveng on 8/31/06

Steven.. You're quite right, many benefits have come from science, thanks for the correction :-)
---LeAnn on 8/31/06

LeAnn: It's not that (all) scientists are playing God as you said, but man tries to understand how the world works, through experimentation. It that bad? A lot of good inventions and discoveries benefited the people of the world. Many scientists become Christians because of their work. Also, scientist of long ago are quite different than today. Today they are more self-centered and greedy.
---Steveng on 8/31/06

JohnT: It's not difficult to build a Tesla Coil reaching one million volts. I've read were 75 million volts were achieved. That's almost reaching the voltage of lightning. That'll curl the hair on your head, eh?
---Steveng on 8/31/06

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An idea. Do you think that they can magnify the northern lights to make the whole earth's sky and the MOON RED? I have been wondering about that sign. Do you think that it will be used to create disasters? Still storms?
---Amy9384 on 8/31/06

US Senate Bill 517...House 2995...1/16/06 will allow weather modification....6/4/06Clouds seeded in China(MSNBC).High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program..My people parish....
---Lynn on 8/31/06

A Tesla Coil only produces a SMALL electrical arc and does not produce the ground-to-earth strikes, nor does it produce the above cloud "sprites" that are apparent in ONE thunder storm.

Manipulqation of weather, eg "cloud seeding" is NOT the same as creatng climate change. That is a micro event, not effecting the macro, climate.
---John_T on 8/31/06

Yes. Look up, Endothermic mode, Scalar Wars, Scalar Potential Interferometers good reads concerning how men are trying to PLAY God
---LeAnn on 8/30/06

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Pt.2 Anyway I feel if we are aware of what is happening around us then it would be harder for satan to fool us with his tricks. I will say it was shocking with my bit of reacearch to find that men are still trying to play God, they wonder why so much goes wrong in this world.
---judit4846 on 8/30/06

Pt. 1 Read All Matthew 24 :24.... insomuch that if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Daniel 8:23-24.... And his power shall be mighty but not by his own power:.. (God said these things would happen but he didn't say HE would be doing it.)= quote used at the seminar Ref: to strange things concerning weather Ref: Matthew etc.
---judit4846 on 8/30/06

I think that man have been trying to manipulate (not control) the weather and this maybe a way to persuade people to do as they like etc. Have you heard of scalar electromagnetics (Scalar EM), any truth in Brenda Stradom (How Abut The Weather) Men have tried/done cloning among other things so why not trying to manipulate the weather. Bible says anti-christ will have some power to manipulate even the elect this would be a start espically if one isn't aware of what is going on from the start.
---Judit4846 on 8/30/06

Man does manipulate the weather and is successful 40% of the time.
As for lightning, man can create that, too. All lightning is is a difference of potential much like an battery, but in ac. My friend and I built a large Tesla Coil giving off "lightning" reaching seven feet. We had to tear it down because neighbors were complaining that their home appliance motors were humming and the fluorescent lamps were glowing (caused by the high frequency our coil was emitting.) It was also noisy.
---Steveng on 8/30/06

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Seeding the clouds to produce rain isn't anything NEW. It was practiced in the American West and Southwest during the 1930's and 40's in an attempt to alleviate the "dust bowl" conditions. Sometimes rain was produced, sometimes the procedure was abandoned here. The Russians may have improved on the procedure somewhat. I don't know.
---Donna2277 on 8/30/06

Just for clarification, it should be stated that weather can SOMETIMES be manipulated by man.

Rain can be produced (rather unpredictably) by seeding clouds. No way yet to prevent rainfall. Research is taking place concerning averting natural disasters such as hurricanes and tornadoes, but it has never been accomplished yet.
---Donna2277 on 8/30/06

Helen ... Cloud seeing is indisputable ... the weather can be manipulated by man ... with catastrophic results.
But as John T says, so far man has not specifically altered the climate.
However, I am not so sure that we can't mess up the climate by misuse of our occupation of this planet ... it seems to be happening already.
---alan8869_of_UK on 8/30/06

Cloud seeding is not climate manipulation.

Weather is caused by the process of equalization. Earth stores solar energy in the land and oceans, and releases it as wind, rain, etc. Because the above-cloud and below-cloud lightning energy of ONE bolt can light up a whole city, it is absurd to believe that one ground station in Alaska can produce enough energy to change a climate when it can't create a lightning bolt from the sky.
---John_T on 8/30/06

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Alan 8869ofUK - For man to affect the weather he would have to be God and he is not. It is unthinkable to me to even entertain that thought. Jesus stopped the wind and waves, but then He was not only fully Man but fully God too. Christians can pray about the weather, but it is God who is in control. If He is not in control, then man must have dethroned Him.
---Helen_5378 on 8/29/06

Man has always tried to control weather since the ancient Greeks. HAARP started innocently enough to experiment with radio propagation in the ionosphere. But like everything man does they also find a darker side to their inventions and discoveries - just like fire. HAARP is just the very tip of the iceberg concerning man's inventions, inventions and conspiracies that will boggle your mind. Conspiracies are nothing but frivolous debates and keeps your mind away from the things that matter to God.
---Steveng on 8/29/06

It is known that the Russians seeded the clouds to make the rain fall elsewhere during the recent summit (was it the G8?)
Helen, man can affect the weather.
---alan8869_of_UK on 8/29/06

Amen Daniel. We should be far more concerned with going on to the saving of the soul lest we draw back to perdition.
---Linda on 8/29/06

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Located in Alaska? Maybe that is where Santa gets some of his power to run that sleigh.

Change the weather???? It sounds like someone has been reading too many tabloid mags.
---Bruce5656 on 8/29/06

[2] carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; (15)but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ,". NOTE: There are most def. far worse ideas than the simple one brought up in this blog; I just felt like it was time to say this to whomever happens to read it. MANY OTHER BLOGS SHOULD HAVE THESE VERSES APPENDED TO THEM!
---danie9374 on 8/29/06

[1] More of the same kind of nonsense that many so-called preachers use to draw a crowd and pay their bills, or worse, cult groups use to get more members! Believers should stick with learning more about GOD and growing "in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." (2 Peter 3:18) instead of leaning towards sensationalism. Heed Paul's warning in Ephesians 4:14-15: "...we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 8/29/06

I read somewhere that they are turning the snow into gold, but that is a secret, so don't tell, OK?
---John_T on 8/29/06

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HAARP is located in Alaska, that makes it very real. It basically modifies the weather.It Is being used for manipulation called weather wars..Ask God for wisdom..
---Lynn on 8/29/06

It truly is the end of the end times with such stupid things being propounded. No-one can do anything to the weather ... it is strictly under Almighty God's control.
---Helen_5378 on 8/29/06

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