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Holy Ghost Ones Get Raptured

(Revelation 8:1) States: There will be a silence in Heaven for 30 minutes during the Great Tribulation Period. Christian's who were ready at the Rapture moment (the one's full of the Holy Ghost) will be safe in Heaven at this time. What are your thoughts on this 30 minute silence?

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(1.)That person who quoted what a minister said on the "Divine Blood Of Christ Blog", shows how the enemy works with half-truths, he dont want Christians to grow in God's Grace & knowledge, he wants them to perish. The info that minister gave about the Old testament definition of a Redeemer kinsman is correct, but, the overall message he(that minister) was conveying, false. This is why we need the unction of the Holy Spirit.
---Mrs._Morgan on 7/27/07

(2.)Christ being our One & Only New Testament(very unique)Redeemer kinsman became related to the human race in a unique way (Proverbs 3:5). Saying that Christ took on adamic blood would mean He(God) offered a corrupted blood sacrifice, that's nothing less than blasphemy, the virgin birth...proof that Jesus came from the line of David(by way of Joseph)in a very unique way.
---Mrs._Morgan on 7/27/07

(3.)False teachers say that Christ had Adams blood, they say: this was His "humanity" part, that's a lie. The Truth is that, yes, Christ had humanity, took on human flesh, was tempted at all points, yet victorious (Hebrews 4:15) , but He didn't offer tainted blood to God the Father in Heaven for the remission of sins(Hebrews.9:12-14). God is not the author of confusion. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 7/27/07

Correction: Jesus is the root of David (Rev.22:16), not 17.
---Mrs._Morgan on 7/25/07

Since the topic of the Blood has been brought up,Jesus is the root of David (Luke 3:23-31)Rev.22:17), Joseph came from the blood-line of David, so that the prophecy would be fulfilled,we know that Joseph was not the birth father of Christ because of the virgin birth. Jesus is our Redeemer Kinsman, He became related to the human race in a very unique way, He had flesh, like us, but He didn't take on corruptible blood, this isn't about mere "wording",etc., but Truth.
---Mrs._Morgan on 7/25/07

Acts 20:28

28Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Are we bought with human blood, or God's blood?
---Matthew_from_LA on 7/25/07

Jenny, Yes, my church is Grace Cathedral in Akron, Ohio & I don't understand what you are saying??
---Mrs._Morgan on 7/25/07

I did not read every blog but see that Christians are all actually believing the same thing but became focused upon one point and the terminology/importance. Of course the blood is important! "THEY OVERCAME HIM BY THE WORD OF THEIR TESTIMONY AND THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB' Salvation is by grace in faith in Jesus Christ & repentance of sin (last few paragraphs in Luke). If 'Jesus word abides in' us we will be 'saved''BE ye holy.Whats the problem? We need Love!
---jody on 7/25/07

(2.)Jenny, You might want to "Google" these three words: Blood Christ Heresy. You will find how the issue of the Blood of Christ, is a very important issue in the Church, quite a few blogs have reflected peoples stance on this issue. We must pray for godly wisdom in regard to all the issues in God's Word. I hope this helps you in your walk with the Lord.
---Mrs._Morgan on 7/25/07

Mrs. Morgan, I find your answers difficult to read. It could be the various commands you use to get your point across, but visually, it's like looking at an optical exam at the doctor's office. I'm sorry but it looks like code to me.

Does your church emphasize the Blood of Jesus above other teachings?
Do you attend Ernest Angley's church?
---Jenny on 7/25/07


Jenny, I'm non-denominational.The Word must be received in Full, not in parts,under the direction of the Holy Spirit.God says,without the death & shedding of the Blood of Christ, sin remains. Those being influenced by the spirit of the anti-christ/seducing spirits say: the shedding of the Blood of Jesus only means His death and/or His Blood is like ours,corruptible(the biggest heresies in the Church),they say this even though the Word says,No.
---Mrs._Morgan on 7/24/07

..."to the incorruptible Blood of Christ(1 Peter1:18,19)(Rev.12:11),"
Mrs. Morgan, you reference the Blood of Christ as if it was a separate doctrine all of it's own. Do you belong to a fundamental holiness church that teaches the Blood of Christ as a doctrine?
---Jenny on 7/24/07

"Correct me if I am wrong,but you believe in the subsequent to conversion baptism in the Holy Spirit..."

I can't discuss anything Scriptural with you, until you speak Truth in regard to the incorruptible Blood of Christ(1 Peter1:18,19)(Rev.12:11), people can disagree on the Rapture & be saved, but those who deny the power in the Blood of Christ, can't be saved/have the unction of the Holy Spirit, rather they believe in a pre-, post- Tribulation, etc. or not.
---Mrs._Morgan on 7/20/07

Mrs. Morgan,
Correct me if I am wrong, but you believe in the subsequent to conversion baptism in the Holy Spirit. Therefore what you are suggesting by your question is that there is to be a partial rapture with two classes of Christians. Some to be taken and some to be left. This is totaly unscriptural.
---Bruce5656 on 7/20/07

Mrs. Morgan,
"you don't believe that Almighty God is able to Fully Sanctify a person body and soul.

Where did I say that?

You believe that even though the holy anointing of God settles in and on a person, their flesh and bones are still unholy, full of sin

I gave examples of 6 men anointed by the Holy Spirit of God but not perfect. Are you telling me Samson was not sinful? The way he carried on with Delilah? Yet the Holy Spirit was upon him untill his hair was cut.
---Bruce5656 on 10/27/06

Mrs. Morgan: I've read many of your posts, including post from other blogs, and came to the conclusion that you are too hung up on the blood. Getting hung up on just a few verses is a waste of a good heart and mind. Besides, it's a sign that you are of one particular denomination.
---Steveng on 9/10/06

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The Holy Spirit led me to pray for every single person that posts on this blog, so I did, and with all humility, I say to Trust in the Lord, and Abide in His Truth Always, and never Lean on your own understanding. God Bless. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/5/06

kathr4453, Don't worry about that misunderstanding, It's the Abiding in God's Word, that makes us eternally Secure, and don't neglect to thank our dear Lord Jesus for His Precious very unique Divine Blood(the Virgin Birth is proof that It's Divine, dear one.), It continues to work in our lives if we will let It. God Bless you sister. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/5/06

Helen_5378 , (3.)The Mind of Christ is a godly spiritual mind, a yielded mind, a surrendering mind, a humble mind, a mind that rejects any thing that doesnt harmonize with Gods Truth, only the Holy Ghost can help someone understand this. Some ministers dont have this mind, they must let the Holy Spirit give them this mind, they are sometimes confused about things that could even damn a person to hell, this is my major concern.
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/5/06

Helen_5378 , (2.)The Bible says that we must have/use the Divine Blood of Jesus to be overcomers(Revelation 12:11) , put on the whole armor of God(Ephesians 6:11), and have the mind of Christ(Philippians 2:5), this is not a mind that reasons with Natural man reasoning but only godly reasoning. The Mind of Christ is the mind that Jesus had when He was on earth, and His people must have this mind so that they wont be confused and deceived.
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/5/06

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Helen_5378 , (1.)You asked this:" Do you agree that a minister of the gospel can mis-interpret the word of God because he is human?". Helen, my answer is yes, a minister can misinterpret the word of God , if he is not fully equipped with godly wisdom, and interprets the Scriptures with the Natural man's reasoning. Some good Bible Fasting will help to humble a person and prepare them to receive from the Lord.
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/5/06

Sweet Mrs. M. I know what you are saying, and I know if you had the wording right, that what you are saying is absolutely true. Those who are redeemed are redeemed by the Blood of the Lamb. It says in Peter that we were not purchased with silver & gold, but with the precious Blood of Jesus. Purchased is OSAS. I do pray you would come to the full knowledge of that.
---kathr4453 on 9/5/06

Mrs. Morgan. I aplogize, you didn't say that, I believe Lisa said you had said that.
That is how things get out of control, and I will be more careful to read All, and not just jump off of someone elses words. Lesson learned, Please forgive!!

---kathr4453 on 9/5/06

Mrs Morgan - Do you agree that a minister of the gospel can mis-interpret the word of God because he is human?
---Helen_5378 on 9/5/06

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(3.) The devil has a counterfeit for everything concerning God, never forget this! The devil has a counterfeit version of the Divine Blood of Jesus, God's Holy Grace, God's Holy tongues, God's Faith, God's Righteousness, God's Holy miracles, the list goes on and on, beware! --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/5/06

(2.) And those with the counterfeits will have to hear these piercing words: "... Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.." (Matthew 25:41) . --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/5/06

(1.)Those without the Divine Blood of Jesus please,accept His Divine Blood or you will hear these words:, ... I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity"(Matthew 7:23). "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?. Many think they have Jesus,tongues... but all they have are counterfeits...
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/5/06

kathr4453 , I never said that the Blood of Jesus mixes with our blood?? The Divine Blood of Jesus, cleanses, His Blood flows in a true born again child of God's soul. You want a Scripture that delares the Divinity of the Blood of Chirst , and I gave that to you, the Virgin Birth, Kathr, the Virgin Birth. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/5/06

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Elder, (2.).....he always uses Scripture to back up what he says, period. I am very picky and choosy about what minister I will accept, they have to preach sound doctrine that is in harmony with God's Word. There are only a few ministers that I would endorse, and my minister would be one of them.
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/5/06

Elder , (1.)Nothing takes the place of the Word of God, any book that I read pertaining to God's Word, will have to pass the "Word Test", if it doesn't, it will go in the trash. Reverend Angley has been my minister since I was about 14 years old, and he preaches and writes, sound doctrine, that is not contrary to God's Word, unlike many that on this site, and out in the world.....
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/5/06

Mrs. Morgan I think you must sit down with the Angley books and write from them and don't use the Bible for reference.
The Rapture (catching away) in the Mid Tribulation (if you want to call it that) involves only two people. They are in Rev 11:3-12. The 144,000 are still here in chapter 14.
---Elder on 9/5/06

#2 Mrs. Morgan;
Here is a clear example of:
1. Once you lose your salvation you can never get saved again... or
2. That those who are truly saved can never lose their salvation...or
3. It is so easy to just pull scripture out of the air and scare the wits out of someone without reading ALL that a verse may mean.

I'll be glad to explain the verses to you if you want.
---kathr4453 on 9/4/06

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Mrs.Morgan,Question? Did You said you were saved,lost, and got saved again? What do you think of these verses?
Heb 6:
4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
---kathr4453 on 9/4/06

Please give me 1 or 2 scriptures that say the Blood of Jesus is in our blood. Jesus does not co-mingle His blood with ours.
Please give scripture to back up what you are saying if you want anyone to take you seriously. Our words mean nothing, absolutely nothing. It's God's Word, and we need to be careful how we present that Word. It says in Scripture "be not many teachers, for theirs will be the worse punishment".
---kathr4453 on 9/4/06

The Bible doesn't say what happens during those 30 minutes. It's all speculation on the part of man. Could it be the calm before the storm? Could it be that great leaders and orators use the dramatic pause effect when orating? Could it be a 30-minute intermission? Could it be those few terrible moments after your dad tells to go up to your room and Ill be there in a couple of minutes to make you think about what youve done? God does have a purpose.
---Steveng on 9/4/06

You are using Kingdom Age teachings. Mrs Morgan: Those teachings in Matthew are law!!! If you believe them so much, and are afraid your not going to enter in to the Kingdom, are you going to cut off your hand or poke out your eye if it offends?
Are you going to be telling us to do that too?
---kathr4453 on 9/4/06

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Mrs. Morgan:
You contradict yourself in everything you say, I can't understand what you want people to do??
I don't deny the Blood of Jesus. without it, I would not be completely forgiven. Yes , this is what Justification means....completely forgiven..past present future.. nailed to a cross colossians Ch 2.
My old adams is dead! That is what the Bible says!! Romans 6. <
---kathr4453 on 9/4/06

Mrs.Morgan: You said:
People rejecting the Divine Blood of Christ, and declaring that God is limited in what He Santifies, this is a Telling Time indeed(Matthew 25:33).
Do you realize that when you do not believe that God saves to the upmost OSAS, it is YOU saying that God is limited in what He sanctifies!!!
Hebrews says we are sanctified once and for all through the Blood of Jesus. Heb 10
---kathr4453 on 9/4/06

lisa, I never said the Baptism of the Holy Ghost is a prerequisite for Salvation, you reversed what I said, I said : Salvation is required to receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. If you would like, you can re-read my posts. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/4/06

Mrs. Morgan
For what it is worth. To answer some of your questions and make a few things clear. I am a Pentecostal preacher affiliated with the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada. I do not make reference to this on these blogs because it is irrelevant. If you know anything about the PAOC (think Assemblies of God the US counterpart) you will know that I am affiliated with what may be the most evenly balanced arm of Pentecost.
---Bruce5656 on 9/4/06

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My theology is very orthodox Pentecostal including
- Salvation by faith alone (water baptism and Holy Spirit baptism not required for salvation)
- Subsequent to salvation Baptism in the Holy Spirit with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- Divine healing.
- Laying on of hands and anointing with oil.
- Trinitarian
- Etc.
---Bruce5656 on 9/4/06

You are right I am an apologetic. I see it as a great problem when people can only speak in religious clichs in particular when they cannot give a comprehensive explanation of what those clichs mean. I do not think we have the right to take verses out of their context and make them mean something entirely different than the original author intended to suit our own purposes.
---Bruce5656 on 9/4/06

When people make sweeping statements about what the bible says I ask them to show me chapter and verse.
I have no tolerance for those who make a sideshow of the gospel as do many "TV evangelists". So far I have refrained from saying this and I know I will loose you here but I see Ernest Angley as fitting that category.
---Bruce5656 on 9/4/06

After reading his writings, and seeing that they are full of jargon and short on substance and how poorly organized his thoughts are, (this combined with what I have seen of him on TV) I am more convinced than ever.
---Bruce5656 on 9/4/06

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You have been under his influence and think like him. I want you to know he represents a very extreme (dangerous) aspect of Christianity. (Notice I did not say he is not Christian or that he is not preaching the gospel or that people cannot get saved under his ministry.) I am saying that he is off balance theologically, in a very unhealthy way.
---Bruce5656 on 9/4/06

Partial rapture is a false doctrine (as false as is OSAS) that some Christians will be raptured and some will not. This is a doctrine that is taught by Mr. Angley in no uncertain terms. If you did not know what partial rapture means, how could you say you do not believe in it?
---Bruce5656 on 9/4/06

Yes Jesus said only a few would make it to heaven. But he was not talking about a few select Christians. He was contrasting the total number humans from all time that will be there vs the total of all who have lived. There is no such thing as partially saved. Either you are or are not a Christian and if you are a Christian, (baptized in the Holy Spirit or not) Jesus is coming back for you.
---Bruce5656 on 9/4/06

Re. your reference to the Mind of Christ blog.
Here is a fundamental of hermeneutics (principles of Bible study): (These are not my words but they express what I am trying to say)
The Primary Meaning of a text is its original intent by the original writer to the original audience.
Or to put it another way:
"If the plain sense makes common sense, seek no other sense." (From Wikipedia Biblical Hermeneutics)
---Bruce5656 on 9/4/06

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The question was what does it mean to have the mind of Christ? The answer is clearly stated in the context To have the mind of Christ is to have the mindset of humility and servitude that Christ had.
---Bruce5656 on 9/4/06

This verse "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus" has been bantered about like a club. "If you have the mind of Christ you will agree with me." and tagged on to the end of various statements by bloggers.
This is taking the verse out of context and abusing it to say something altogether different than was originally meant all in the name of "spiritualizing" it
---Bruce5656 on 9/4/06

Certainly the Word of God is spiritual. But it is also practical and literal too. I have no problem with bringing a spiritual application from the word of God. Jesus did this all the time with his parables. That is not an excuse to trample the original meaning of a passage. To take a particular passage that has a litteral, specific meaning and "spiritualize it" to suit one's purposes is unacceptable.
---Bruce5656 on 9/4/06

In this Final Hour of the Church Age(The Dispensation of the Holy Ghost) People are going to be pulled either to the Left or to the Right, because the powers are so strong, God's Raining down His Spirit, the devil is raging and working overtime, because he knows his time is short, what I see on this blog site is proof of this! People rejecting the Divine Blood of Christ, and declaring that God is limited in what He Santifies, this is a Telling Time indeed(Matthew 25:33).
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/4/06

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Bruce5656(II.)...So what is your take on the "Laying on of hands"? I guess I already know the answer to that! *You will not Fully understand the very Fullness of God if you refuse to let Him reason with you. With God all things are possible. --Bruce I will not go in circles with you about God's Word, therefore this ends my discussion with you Bruce5656, unless you begin to Completely Reason in the Spirit. --Mrs. Morgan.
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/4/06

Bruce5656, (I.)Another thing I find disturbing what you have put out that you don't belive that Almighty God is able to Fully Santifiy a person body and soul. You believe that even though the holy anointing of God settles in and on a person, their flesh and bones are still unholy, full of sin (*See the "Was Jesus In Original Sin" Blog).
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/4/06

2. if you do not believe what she says, you are not entering heaven. If you are not listening to her as she tells Bruce, you will never understand God. We have been told by her and Eloy that a true believer does not sin, for he cannot sin because he has the blood of Christ, but a true believer can backslide and fall from grace and lose salvation. That is why she doesn't believe in OSAS. Its all on the hands of men and not God. He can be saved again and again every time he repents.
---lisa on 9/4/06

3. In her case, she was born again twice. because she backslided yet she says a believer cannot sin. Too much reading from Mr. Angley, and his doctrines. One thing he does have right in his teachings, that he does not heal anyone, God does. That is more then the other Word Faith teachers teach. Got to give him credit for that part that he has correct. Because it is God always that gets the glory.
---lisa on 9/4/06

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Hello everyone. what I see that has happened is that Morgan cannot answer correctly because she does not have the revealed word of God in order. It happens when you learn false teachings from someone and then try to reconcile the passages as a whole. Baptizm of the Holy Spirit is not a prerequisite to salvation. Faith in Christ is. Without faith, no one enters. In her theory, if you don't have the blood of Christ in your blood, if you don't keep yourself perfect without sin, and most of all
---lisa on 9/4/06

Bruce, I understand that you are a apologetic, you are checking sound doctrines, and those that are not, but when you said these words "you can spiritualize this all day long..." in the "What is the Mind of Christ" Blog, I was very disappointed. Someone that doesn't believe that the Whole Word is spiritual, red flags go up in my head. You can judge and believe what you want in your apologetic research, but make sure what you are doing is in harmony with the Holy Spirit, or it is vain.
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/4/06

Bruce5656, Do you think that many will be Raptured? How can that be? Jesus said only a Few will make it to Heaven, doesn't that tell you something? --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/4/06

(2.)Bruce5656, Some falsely teach that people need to be baptised in the Holy Ghost to be saved , but this is incorrect, one must tarry and go on to receive the promise that John the Baptist spoke of, after salvation, The Scripture's clearly point this out, but as usual there will be scoffers even till the very end, just like in the days of Noah. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/4/06

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(1.)Bruce5656, I think I know what you are saying , I am not use to hearing that term "partial rapture", I just know that Jesus said some will be taken and some will be left period. Yes , I do believe, that Christians will need the Holy Ghost Baptism to be changed in a moment in the twinkling of an eye, Jesus commanded us to receive the Holy Ghost, the Scriptures that were given are sufficient for a person to figure this out....
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/4/06

Bruce5656 , For clarity purposes could you please define for me what the definition of partial rapture is, the way you have learned it? Maybe I can get a better understanding of what you are saying. Thank you. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/4/06

Brother Bruce, I believe you are not undestanding Morgan. She has spelled it out so perfect that I believe only she understands it.
---frank_-2 on 9/3/06

Mrs Morgan,
I was just reading some of Mr. Angley's writings. Much of what you have to say here is pretty much parroting what he has to say.
Clearly Angley does believe in a partial rapture:
"To make the Rapture you need something more than salvation: You need the Holy Ghost baptism."
He talks about people who are saved but will be "spewed into the tribulation" because they do not have the Holy Ghost baptism. What is that if not a partial rapture?
---Bruce5656 on 9/3/06

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Mrs. Morgan,
You are talking about Christians that are baptized in the Holy Spirit and you are talking about jews that will be saved following the rapture.
What I do not understand is what you are saying that will happen to Christians that are not baptized in the Holy Spirit. You are not addressing what will happen to them.
Either they will go in the rapture as will those baptized in the Holy Spirit or they will not.
You said they will not. Is that not a partial rapture?
---Bruce5656 on 9/3/06

Mrs Morgan - All those that are born-again are sealed by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit resides in a person the very moment that they are born-again. To say that one needs the Baptism in the Holy Spirit to be raptured is a lie --- that would then make Baptism in the Holy Spirit a condition to enter heaven. There is only one way to Heaven and that is Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
---Helen_5378 on 9/3/06

Bruce5656, **Correction see bold underlined word's below:You are not understanding? The Christians(gentiles) that are saved and baptized in the Holy Ghost will be taken in the Rapture, the Parable of the 10 Virgins proves this. The Christians(gentiles) that get saved during the Tribulation Period(*Not Rapture) will not be raptured , the 144,000 male Jews(the man-child) will be the ones raptured in the middle of the Great Tribulation Period(mid-trib) rapture.
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/3/06

Bruce5656, You are not understanding? The Christians(gentiles) that are saved and baptized in the Holy Ghost will be taken in the Rapture, the Parable of the 10 Virgins proves this. The Christians(gentiles) that get saved during the rapture will not be raptured , the 144,000 male Jews(the man-child) will be the ones raptured in the middle of the Great Tribulation Period(mid-trib) rapture. What do you not understand? --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/3/06

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Mrs Morgan

Help me out here. It appears you are contradicting yourself.

You said:

There is no partial rapture


You said no seal (subsequent to conversion - Baptism in the Holy Spirit) no rapture.

What happens to those who are not "sealed" (baptized in the Holy Spirit) following conversion? If they are not included in the rapture, is that not a partial rapture?
---Bruce5656 on 9/3/06

(VII.)Bruce5656, Please also note these scripture texts:(Ephesians 3:20)(Luke 11:11-13)(Acts 1:8)(Acts 1:4,5)(Acts 5:32)(Acts 2:39)(Mark 16:17)(I Corinthians 15:51,52)(Matthew 22:14)(Matthew 22:11,12). God Bless. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/3/06

(VI.)*Please note that the parable of the 10 virgins(Matthew 25:1-13)is about the importance of receiving the Holy Ghost on the inside. The "oil" in this parable represents the Holy Ghost. This parable is talking to the born-again "saved" Jesus Blood washed(they were all virgins), but 5 were wise, and 5 were foolish(didn't receive the Holy Ghost Baptism) and were left behind during the awful Great Tribulation Period.
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/3/06

(V.).....the Holy Ghost if we expect to be taken in the Rapture. ---People must have the Real Holy Ghost Baptism, note I said Real, many don't have It. In some churches they so-called teach people how to speak in tongues, and that isn't the Real Holy Ghost speaking(the Holy Ghost speaks on His own accord). A person must be saved first, then they must go on to receive this Holy Ghost Baptism that John spoke of.
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/3/06

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(IV.)....This seal comes AFTER YOUR CONVERSION. What is the promise? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and YE SHALL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST, (Acts 2.38). . . . Wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For John truly baptized with water; but YE SHALL BE BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY GHOST not many days hence, (Acts 1:4,5). --We must have the seal of God which is...
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/3/06

(III.) ...but God choose tongues as the very first and initial sign."In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise", (Ephesians 1:13), Note that it says AFTER YOU HEARD THE WORD OF TRUTH, AFTER YOU BELIEVED or were saved, THEN YOU WERE SEALED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.....
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/3/06

(II.)" But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you(Acts 1:8)...For he [the Holy Ghost] dwelleth WITH you and shall be IN you, John 14:17. The Bible clearly makes the distinction between the Holy Ghost being WITH a Christian and the Holy Ghost being IN a Christian. The Holy Ghost IN a person is what will change him/her at the time of the Rapture.There are many signs that the Holy Ghost has Baptised a person(Galations 5:22,23)....
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/3/06

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