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Does Satan Do Good Things

Do you think satan does good things for people so that they will think they do not need God? Not necessarily satan worshipers, but people who are lost.

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As some of you said"good comes from god(or jesus since some religions believe he was a god)and bad things from Satan. Do you realize that satan came from god(god made him)!!!!!!Americans are so brain washed...You guys got to many bibles(or those books with bible stuff)!!!! Satan was a mistake,and we all make them.Just dont follow mistake and youll be fine....
---Rose on 5/16/10

Certainly. He has the power to assume a pleasing shape, and can perform signs that could even deceive the very elect (if that were possible).

He can always do things that seem good on the surface, but always with an ulterior motive.

This is the essence of deception - the deceiver doesn't say only things that are false - he says things that are mostly true, so that the part that AREN'T true will be easily believed when mixed in with them.
---StrongAxe on 5/7/08

Lisa, that is a wonderful story. Thanks for sharing it!
---SueQ7373 on 5/5/08

God is running our universe I am sure. Satan can't do anything God won't let him do. Everything truly good comes from God through Jesus.
---SueQ7373 on 5/5/08

I thank God that no weapon formed against the Christian shall prosper.
That includes repetitious prayers prayed in the form of a curse.

I know a man who's ex- wife was a witch. She used voodoo dolls, all forms of witchcraft, black magic, she tried to use all of it against him.

He thrived and she died. No, satan can do nothing good including for those who belong to him.
---lisa on 5/5/08

He became a Christian and she hated him for it. They divorced, she continued in witchcraft. He didn't know until after a year or so, the extent of what she had been brewing, cursing, voodooing against him.

His business thrived, he thrived and he fell more in love with Jesus Christ every day. God gave him all new friends that rallied around him, encouraged him and loved him. He was blessed.
---lisa on 5/5/08

Do not be deceived, satan doesn't bless anyone, even if it appears outwardly that he is doing so.
For every truth he might let slip out of the mouth of one of his followers, you will hear 9 more lies that follow. It's all a trick.

For every witchcraft prayer that one of his prays, God doesn't allow them to touch the Christian. God blesses the Christian.
---lisa on 5/5/08

Those that belong to satan fall further and further down until they become of a reprobate mind. All of their curses are returned back to their own mind, their own life. That's the truth.

If you know anyone praying repetitious witchcraft prayers, believing if they pray them long enough, they'll come to pass, I tell you that they will return back to you like a tidal wave. That life will be destroyed, right before their very own eyes and again, at the Judgment.
---lisa on 5/5/08

Blessings more closely to home, here on CN,
if you're out there cursing anyone here, we are being blessed.
If you are praying against us, we are being blessed in every way.

Whatever you may be trying to use as a weapon against the Christian does not prosper. We have God's Word, and the promises of God are Yes, and Amen.

If you are worshipping satan knowingly or unknowingly, may God's Holy Spirit turn you around before it's too late.
---lisa on 5/5/08

Praise Almighty God, He gives good gifts to His children.

Satan gives nothing, he's not all knowing, has little power, and cannot do anything good for anyone.
---lisa on 5/5/08

all good comes from God and all bad comes from Satan
---anthony on 4/3/08

Take a look at the 'Conversations with God' books. I believe Satan had a great time fooling the writer. He spoke his silky lies and fooled a man who loves God with all his heart.

Does Satan do good things? NO.
But he pretends to be God all the time. He's twisted the truth throughout the centuries.

God is Love, God is Peace, God is Perfect. God is not on the same level as man. He doesn't enjoy the scent of meat cooking. He doesn't get jealous. He is all-powerful.
---deb on 4/3/08

Oh! yes, ofcourse, sense you put it like that!
---catherine on 4/3/08

#5."We confess that the Pope has power of changing Scripture and of adding to it, and taking from it, according to his will." Roman Catholic Confessions for Protestants Oath, Article XI.

The Catholic Church teaches All People Must Be Subject to the Authority of the Pope in Order to be Saved, Even if the Pope is in Error or Were Evil, He Still Holds Power Over All Christ's Faithful!,The Pope is Christ's Replacement (Vicar or Vicegerent) on Earth.
Its all recorded in Catholic History!.
---Ramon on 4/3/08

No, Satan has never done anything good. What Satan does do is he lies to the unsaved and tells them that what they are doing is good. He also tells them the lie that what is good is bad. He is the father of lies.
---Helen_5378 on 4/29/07

God is not prompt or called to ever side with evil so the answer is clearly No. What good can come from satan when he does the opposite to God?
---Carla5754 on 4/29/07

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Sure he does, it's called deception. He comes as an angel of light to do good things. He uses false religions to do it all the time as a hook and a worm. (They clothe, as well and feed the hungry etc). The motive is wrong but the action is good!
---Valerie on 4/28/07

absolutely not,satan can deceive you and make you think hid way is good ,but his ultimate plan is to destroy you,your faith in God, he is a liar.
---tom2 on 9/24/06

3. Thank you for sharing with me your thoughts. Letting go is a feeling of liberation and joy. Joy that Christ came into my heart. It would never happen there since I was worshipping the wrong god. Christ is my Lord jhonny. not Saint Martin or Mary, or anyone else. Christ alone.
---lisa on 9/22/06

2. I thank Almighty God for opening my eyes to that lie and bringing me out. I use to pray to Saint Martin, what a fool I was. What a lie. I know many will never leave, and I suppose that is their destiney. But many will find out for themselves one day, when and only when they leave the pride behind and look for the Truth.
---lisa on 9/22/06

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jhonny, I don't know what you are refering to, but let me explain, What I thought what was real in the church was not real at all. It was all a lie. Worshipping saints is idolatry, very much against the Word of God. You must be a Catholic for you sound just like what Emcee would say, and does say when he hears someone left his church.
---lisa on 9/22/06

Lisa. "that special feeling went away." Thanks for sharing that story. Kind of sad how loss is. Growth is painful because we let go of something, to become something new. The "letting go" is a feeling of loss which makes growing painful at times. No matter how good the decision, there is a feeling of loss and even remorese. Did I do the right thing? Yes. Lu 5:38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.
---jhonny on 9/22/06

3. If you will notice, Casino's do the same thing. They put gold and beautiful things to attract people and you do feel a sense of awe in those places and you buy in to the whole thing. I know many do. Anyway, that was the reason I ask Ramon, not to bash anyone but on his opinion only.
---lisa on 9/21/06

2. I was wondering what Ramons opinion was concerning the Catholic church future. I suppose the reason I ask was because many mention that the Catholic church is the one in Rev. I was kind of wondering what he thought. I remember when I was a Catholic I use to be at awe when I walked inside a Catholic church. It was because of all the saints and candles and pictures, and it gave me a sense of some place special. But then I learned how it is wrong to worship saints and that special feeling went away.
---lisa on 9/21/06

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Hello Alan, I do think almost as you, but God is not working through time and seeing things different every day. That is why I said that God is Omniscience. The actions of man God knows. The actions of Himself, is but an action for us now, but was done already since God is outside of time. And Yes, there is many other denominations teaching falsely but the Catholic church is the largest, so it comes to mind more offen then others. And since many are coming out of the Catholic church in large groups
---lisa on 9/21/06

To answer this question we need to know what 'good' is. nothing good can come out of satan. nothing good can make you feel you do not need God because nothing is good in itself except in relation to God's ultimate design. anything contrary to this is not good no matter how nice they seem. Yes satan can do things that appear good but are not at all good.
---Toyin on 9/21/06

Lisa: Most Christians today have the wrong idea about God "allowing" things to happen. Did He allow Eve to eat the forbidden fruit? Of course not. It was her decision. I realized there were some instances God allowed things to happen like with Job, but overall we, the people, allow these things to happen. All people make decisions whether good or bad. And as we near the end, people's hearts will grow colder. Pray that you will be spared and endure unto the end.
---Steveng on 9/21/06

Lisa ... There are further questions to follow yours about the RCC.
That is not the only "Christian" "church" which has unbiblical teaching ... why does God allow those others to continue?
I wonder if He is not quite as strict as we are about errors and misunderstandings and misinterpetations?
Perhaps while we condemn the unbiblical "add-ons" of all sorts of denominations and individuals, He forgives them?
---Alan8869_of_UK on 9/21/06

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3. In the subject of the Catholic Church, I was asking only because I wanted your opinion on why God permits the twisting of His word to go on. And if He does, what would be the purpose of it. That was all. I know things happen only by permission. For if God wants to change anything He is more then capable. Like sin, He allows it to continue, and I know it has a reason, yet sin has done so much wrong.
---lisa on 9/21/06

2 I have read many of your post and I agree on many of them but have a question on the one's you answered on "grace". Only because you didn't include the Holy Spirit in the life of the believer in his walk. I think that most people when they want to explain something a Christian does, they always forget to mention Christ working in the life of the Christian. My studies always begin with the nature, character and attributes of God, that to me gives me a foundation to understand Scripture better.
---lisa on 9/21/06

Ramon, thank you for your answer. I believe a little different then what you stated on testing. God does not have to test us to see what we will do, He already knows what we will do before we do it. His test is for ourselves. The same with Abraham. He didn't want to know something that He already knew. He is Omniscience. God, being infinite, is able to be aware of all things. He never learns anything or acquires new knowledge.
---lisa on 9/21/06

Lisa.#2.Our focus is not to contemplate why God does what He does but our reaction or behavior to whatever God's decision is. We will never understand God. God do things, allow things, that we cant understand.
God permits everyone to choose freely what they will do. We have "free will" either to accept him or reject him. Again we cant never know really what God purpose or plan."For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the Lord"Isaiah 55:8
---Ramon on 9/20/06

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Lisa. Sorry I didn't answer your second question. Even in the Early NT Church Paul had several times rebuke certain Church's because they were hertics spreading False teachings and many people have believe them.
Do you know the story of how God tested Abraham(Gen 22)? I believe that God want to test us and see if we will follow false teachers with their false doctrines or stick to his word. Wither we believe him or men.This is just my Opinion. I do not know what God thinks.
---Ramon on 9/20/06

Ramon, to my second question, what is your opinion on the continued existence of the Catholic church? I mentioned that it has to have a purpose since God would have got rid of it a long time ago if He so wanted. In your opinion, what do you think that purpose is in God's order of things in His plan? Since everything exist by permission, not because it is holy, but because of God.
---lisa on 9/19/06

You are so right Ramon. A person cannot say, they love God with all of their heart and soul if they worship another. Even if they say, we worship both, it still does not give the glory to God alone. Thank you for your opinion. I know of many Catholics that have given their lives to Christ and live a great life, I am just waiting for them to leave one day. Its up to each one of us to take that stand no matter what anyone says are thinks.
---lisa on 9/18/06

Vaticanus - Place of Divination
In Hebrew, divination was named after the serpent in the Garden. Divination, enchantment, serpent - same word.In Greek the word divination is named after Puthon, the Pythian serpent or dragon.
Divination has a history of high earnings.
Nu22:7 "..the rewards of Divination in their hand;.." Ez. 12: 23 "flattering Divination"
Acts 16" 16 "brought her masters much gain"
---jhonny on 9/18/06

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Earl, The ground weather common or uncommomn, has to line up with scripture, would you not agree? You give lots of good ideas but seam to lack scripture to prove the point. Im not just trying to disagree with you Earl, I wont to see the scriptural proof. I have given you scripture for the points that ive made, and have asked if you would do the same. Can you give me some scripture to give your words some foundation? Thanks Earl...
---Billy on 9/18/06

greetings ,for billy,when useful and necessary i have commented,replied and responded on your common ground.equally so have i responded on uncommon ground.your response dictates that i should reply on your common ground or what i have said is false on your common ground.your disbelief is understandable and well words remain true even if it is uncommon ground.thanks for reply
---earl on 9/17/06

Lisa. #4. You may Love God with all your heart but if you worship Mary then you are lost. You cant say you love God and at the same worship a saint. Many Catholic put their trust on Rome. They forget about Jesus and the bible. They dont question the Church when it contradict the bible because they feel they right and not the bible. They are not open to the truth. This is the case of Many Catholics on this site. And many Catholics on this site are lost because they put they trust on Mary.
---Ramon on 9/17/06

Lisa.#4. Loving and believing is two different things. I can Love God with all my heart but if I pray to and worship another being, Im Lost!. You must believe one gospel or the other; you can't believe two contradictory gospels at the same time.

I believe that there are truly regenerate Christians in the Roman Catholic church. But, they are truly Christians in spite of official RCC theology.They put their trust in Jesus alone and not on Mary.However this is only 5-10%(Just a opinion).
---Ramon on 9/17/06

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Lisa.#3.Anyone who believes the gospel, which is "the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth" (Rom. 1:16), is saved. Any one who believe Jesus is the only way to abtain eternal life is saved.Loving and believing are two different things.

However Catholic who believe this would find himself in great conflict with the doctrines and practices of his Church.Whoever believes in Christ alone, is saved. Whoever believes in Christ plus anything else for salvation, is lost.
---Ramon on 9/17/06

(5). Earl, your position doesnt hold water. Spirits are still here doing as they will till Satan is cast into the pit during the millennial reign. After spirits are cast out "Luke 11:24", they do return if Christ hasnt took up residence in the house. If not, then seven more spirits including himself return into the man, and the last state of this man is worse than the first. This is scripture Earl. If you think outherwise, show me with scripture.
---Billy on 9/17/06

(4). Act 19:14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
Act 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
Act 19:16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
---Billy on 9/17/06

(3). Another NT scripture.

Act 19:11 And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul:
Act 19:12 So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.
Act 19:13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
---Billy on 9/17/06

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Lisa.#2.However, these Catholic Christians are believers despite what the Catholic Church teaches, not because of what it teaches.

One who has Love for God should also know that the RCC isn't the true Church of God. And they should leave.Truly, many Roman Catholics, in spite of it all, have accepted Christ into their hearts, their lives--but can they then, being saved, still continue to be Roman Catholics? Isn't it like water and fire?
---Ramon on 9/17/06

(2). Luk 11:24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
Luk 11:25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
Luk 11:26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
---Billy on 9/17/06

(1). Earl, First you had said that Jesus had detained and removed these spirits. And now you ask what did Paul do with the spirit, did he do a catch and release? Did Jesus detain the spirits in Matthew 8:28? No he didnt. It wasnt there time to be detained yet. Ill give another NT scripture about unclean spirits.
---Billy on 9/17/06

Lisa.I understand what you coming from.Rome and the bible dont mix.At the same time, there are believers who attend Roman Catholic Churches. There are many Roman Catholics who have genuinely placed their faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation.

Catholic Christians remain in the Catholic church out of family tradition(etc).They are many Catholic who have been "born-Again". And sad enough this is only a small Percentage of Catholics.
---Ramon on 9/17/06

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3. this website has been good on allowing others to put passages and for Catholics to express what they believe and even if they will not choose to leave the church, at least they learn more by going to Scripture and answering more and more each day. Their intentions might be for the wrong reason but God can use it to bring His elect forward.
---lisa on 9/17/06

2. that is why in latin countries from Mexico, central and south America, they incorporate Catholism with paganism. Very easy to do when saints and Mary are worship. They have the night of the dead, walking Mary on the streets with skeletons and evil images. No one questions those acts because it has been passed through the years. Others within don't believe in that but the church is divided on what to believe.
---lisa on 9/17/06

Ramon, I believe the followers in the Catholic church are not told about what their teachings are. Many have different concepts to things that others don't agree with. And when someone brings something up they contradict each other. For the most part many don't study scripture. They count on the traditions of the church instead. Not questioning anything. They grab what they hear from others and rumors and idea's go out.
---lisa on 9/17/06

3. I also know that God is sovereign and He has allowed that church to exist. I also know He has a purpose in the order of God's plan or else it would not be there anymore. What do you think the purpose is? Thanks brother, just your opinion.
---lisa on 9/16/06

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2. I know you are not God to make judgement, what I was hoping was your opinion. I have read of many great man within the church, that were followers and wanted to change things so bad but ran into much trouble. Some were killed and other kicked out. I have thought about this because they have a different doctrine to salvation, since baptism is the way, and justification is by works. Though we know this to be wrong, and that we are justified by faith, could their true love for Christ save them?
---lisa on 9/16/06

Ramon, I have a question for you. First of all I understand completely what the steps are for salvation. What I understand also is that no one can be saved if he or she does not have a true love for God. The condemn or lost, don't have this love. In the Catholic church there has come many good man that have followed their church but had a true love for God. Could it be possible for those man who loved God with all their hearts to still be lost?
---lisa on 9/16/06

Thanks Ramon. What a testimony. Sobering. I find it profound that their members would lie to others to hide the facts of their church. This is a doctrine that the end, justifies the means. It is the doctrine of so called "death cults". A term recently published in a book called "The Martyrs Oath". Churchs that are always scaring people maybe could qualify. Fear based religion they call it.
---JHONNY on 9/15/06

greetings,for billy,cont4)andrew asked jesus;if the belief in his day of the appearance of a bright and supposedly new star was regarded as a token indicating that a great man had been born on earth for such a star had been recently been observed?from jesus' 10 point discussion in superstition and magic, point 4,jesus said in modern phrase;divination,sorcery and witchcraft are superstitions of ignorant minds as also the delusions of magic....::billy,does it take a devil to be ignorant?
---earl on 9/15/06

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greetings,for billy,cont3)people are continuing to cast out devils that are not there even sure you have witnessed such.after 2000yrs. the human mind has in normal people advanced and there is growth therein.spirit divination, reguardless if authentic, does not require demon posession ,just posession of stupidity.paul has obtained his freedom from the beast,im sure paul knows by now.thanks
---earl on 9/15/06

greetings,for billy ,cont2)what did paul do with the spirit?if he did a catch and release then his work would have no effect.will this spirit find another only to possess again,and again?there is no end if paul did not finalize his act of helping those who he said he helped by casting out and detaining.paul certainly had the skills to change her heart but it would be misconduct not to permantely detain for the great day of their judgement.this jesus did.thanks
---earl on 9/15/06

greetings,for billy,thanks for reply,my words are true .unfortunately the majority to this day want evil to surround them .they cant seem to live without fear in their lives.for you,can you tell by your experience and qualified clinical experiences the difference between posession and mental illness?to add your exclaimation marks directed to me are unnecessary,you dont have to yell.remember jesus giving the apostles 'ALL' power to cast out,but the next page they could not.why?thanks
---earl on 9/15/06

(3). Earl, What just happened in Acts 16:16-18? I thought that Jesus had chained these spirits up. You said in another post that paul did not know that upon jesus' final work on earth that all the rebels were detained and removed so that man does not have to fear what he cannot see. Well Earl, if your words are true, then someone had better let Paul know that he cant be casting out evil spirits that arnt there!!!!
---Billy on 9/15/06

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(2). Acts 16:16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel POSSESSED WITH A SPIRIT OF DIVINATION met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
[17] The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.
---Billy on 9/15/06

(1). Earl, you still didnt answer my question. My question was, "If nothing comes from without to sway our inward decisions to do evil, would you say that the same works for good? Also ill copy and past from another post I had about the same topic. If you think that we are not influenced by outward evil, and that Jesus has chained up all these spirits because of his work on the cross, then explane this scripture.
---Billy on 9/15/06

Satan sure does, he is a master to feed and pamper ones flesh, and is also infiltrating the church with his prosperity message.. he wants us to take our eyes OFF Jesus, and onto him..Satan is very capable to deceive.. even the very elect.he is very cunning and very sly.
---karin on 9/15/06

greetings,for billy,cont2),remember that jesus taught"those things which proceed out of the mouth come fourth from the heart and they defile the man"it is easy to say the devil did it to me and or blame others for his actions but man rarely admits it was himself that is the cause of would be classified as mentally ill if he were to say he was provoked by a devil,would he stands alone at judgement.there is no one to blame except himself if he never arrives on the sea of glass
---earl on 9/14/06

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greetings,for billy,,there was once a day where there was wide spread rebellion upon this earth .the original plan for jesus'creation to develop spiritually went into default twice by the sinful acts of those who were given watch care over our planet,those in authority.namely lucifer and satan and the prince of our world and one other with a host of many angels of various classes along with a host of unmentioned classes not angel or spirit.the war is over .man with his evil potential is evil enough(cont)
---earl on 9/14/06

eliza4969 : Be careful about what you say. If you believe what you said that Satan doesn't do good, you will trapped in the claws of the antichrist who will perform good miracles to deceive even the elite. Satan DOES good if it leads you away from God. Satan comes to kill, steal, destroy not the worldly things but comes to kill, steal, and destroy the heart.
---Steveng on 9/14/06

Earl, your giving this corrupt, made in vanity flesh, to much credit. How can this weak corruptible vessel know whats right or wrong, except there be an intervention from God? You said *we are given the exclusive right by God to make our life choice without the action of evil from our outside pushing against our inside*. If nothing comes from without to sway our inward decisions to do evil, would you say that the same works for good?
---Billy on 9/14/06

jhonny.I went to Catholic High School. With all my 4 Years I was never taught hardly anything about the "Pope".
Like I said before. The Catholic Church have lied to so many people and haven't told the whole truth.
Ask yourself, why do catholic, like Mary4873, tell people that the Pope is not God on Earth, when the RCC teaches otherwise? Three reasons:Either she covering up the truth,the RCC is not telling the truth or she dont know what the Church teaches.
---Ramon on 9/14/06

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greetings,this act of deception no longer exists for if so mankind will not have a choice of direction for he would be in constant confusion not knowing who is doing what in that evil will be good and good will be we all know evil is not God like,neither is a circle a square .we are given the exclusive right by God to make our life choice without the action of evil from our outside pushing against our inside,,only from inside will we from our own minds engage in evil with out external influences.
---earl on 9/14/06

Ramon: Why do they hide what they boast? Why from Mary4873 as an example? Doesn't make sense.
---jhonny on 9/14/06

The scripture says that satan comes to kill, steal and destroy so i beleive he is not capable of doing anything at all good.
---eliza4969 on 9/14/06

I believe the adversary can deceive people into thinking that their works are good enough to reconcile them to God. People don't have any problem knowing what is bad, but good things done without a regenerate heart are just as evil (and more deceptive) than the evil.
---Linda6563 on 9/13/06

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Hello everyone, has anyone ever heard of the black Pope? If not, just go to google and type in Black Pope and see what you find out... Its pretty interesting...
---Billy on 9/13/06

Ramon - Keep preaching brother. I hope and pray that the eyes of many Catholics will be opened and that they will see the truth and be saved from an eternal doom.
---Helen_5378 on 9/13/06

jhonny.#4 Alot of Catholic dont study what the Catholic teaches.Sad to say but this only shows there Ignorance.
"The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is Jesus Christ himself, hidden under the veil of flesh." Catholic National, July, 1895.
Saying that in your "Catholic experience" no one ever said the Pope is God doesn't mean they dont teach it.A person may be a Catholic for one day yet they dont know 100% what the Catholic teaches.
---Ramon on 9/12/06

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