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Have you ever heard of a Communion Service where a Cross is erected and, hammers, nails, paper, pencils, where given to the congregation asking them to write down their sins, and nail it to the Cross before taking Communion. Anyone have any thoughts?

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Every church order of service is different. I see nothing wrong with it,really. It seems to be a good idea and a good thing to do, ever so often. We need to look within(ourselves) from time to time, and ask the Lord to show us our sins and shortcomings. He will. If we ask. Once we know, we can begin to make changes.
---Robyn on 1/12/11

there was once big money in alcohol and it was illegal. it is now legal, now that the lawmakers know how to cash in...the production, distribution, sales... and then profits in the destruction it causes and the rehabilitation that is needed after.

pornography used to be illegal. marijuana is being debated now. why?

there is profit in it. it is written...God or mammon...spoken by whom?

donna66, i do not believe what i want, i believe what is real. it is not hard to see what is coming.
---aka on 1/10/11

aka- Believe what you want.
...But selling and buying organs is illegal. There is not, should never be, "big money" in harvesting organs.
---Donna66 on 1/10/11

Donna66, i there are only 125 that i can speak with and i do not have all day to continually blog as many do here. i meant children's diabetes did not exist as an epidemic.

//The demand ALWAYS exceeds the availability...for all organs.//

that is EXACTLY my point. one day, (even though you will argue with me constantly) as the procedure gets perfected, the demand will be stronger. (partial birth abortions were once illegal) until they had the right demand. because of the demand and who it is demanding, they WILL find the donors...willing or not.
---aka on 1/10/11


being a recipient thirty years ago is not the same as being a recipient for the last thirty years.
---aka on 1/10/11

Children's diabetes certainly DID exist when we were kids. It was, and still is, type 1 diabetes, requiring insulin by injection or insulin pump. (or lately a pancreas transplant which is quite new) In fact, before insulin was discovered, type 1 diabetes was always fatal and type 2 was not even recognized.

Type 2 diabetes was a disease of adults until lately. Now it is becoming common in children largely due to poor eating habits and lack of exercise. Type 2 diabetics do not need a pancreas transplant. Their disease is controlled by diet first of all, and oral medication sometimes with supplemental insulin.

It is still ILLEGAL to buy or sell organs. The demand ALWAYS exceeds the availability...for all organs.
---Donna66 on 1/10/11

aka ... I am puzzled.

You say "i did not say that he was a recipient 30 years ago, i said that he has been a recipient the last thirty years".

If he has been a recipient over the the last 30 years, it mean he must have first received an organ 30 years ago.
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/10/11

i did not say that he was a recipient 30 years ago, i said that he has been a recipient the last thirty years. he just got a pancreas a year ago. this means he is no longer a diabetic. do you know the ramifications of this refined process? it is no longer big money in procedure, it is big money in volume. children's diabetes never existed when we were kids. now, it is epidemic. no matter if non-believers eat at McDonald's every night, they have to get fresh organ's from somewhere. and that is only considering children's diabetes. look what the world is doing to the body. are they responding with improved diets and exercise? the money makers are lying with tips and cost effective, quick fix methods that involve others healthy body parts.
---aka on 1/10/11

aka---A lot has changed in 30 yrs. The procedure has been refined and the success rate much improved. I have followed the medical aspects of transplant from donor to recipient. It may well appear different to a patient who is only on one end of the process.
---Donna66 on 1/9/11

Every Ash Wednesday my church does something similar to this. During a time of silent prayer, we write down a sin that has been truly bothering us lately and then nail it to a cross when we are ready. The cross that is covered with all of the sins that the congregation wrote down stays in the front of the church for all of Lent as a reminder that Christ died to take away our sin. Then on Good Friday, we burned all of the sins that were nailed to the cross.

Throughout all of this, our focus is on Jesus and what he did for us.
---Chris129 on 1/8/11

one of my best friends is an organ recipient. he has been for over thirty years. he knows the ins and outs.
---aka on 1/7/11

aka -- How do you know there is "big" money in organ harvesting? It is illegal to buy or sell organs (at least in the USA)..

Organ transplant is no simple process and there are MANY safeguards.

Organs must be CAREFULLY matched between donor and recipient. (e.g. You can't just use any available kidney) All organ transplants are tightly controlled by organizations set up for that purpose. The organ must be cared for carefully every moment from donor to recipient. Most Dr.s are not qualified nor even knowledgeable enough to perform a transplant. And without specialized care in a major medical center for weeks following surgery, the transplant will NOT likely succeed.
---Donna66 on 1/7/11

donna66, I know, I wold have done the same thing.

Maybe if the pastor used Galatians 2,20 OR Romans 6, and asked all to nail their OLD MAN with Christ to the cross, I believe would have been more effective and more truthful.
---kathr4453 on 1/7/11

\\I DO agree about the prayer cloths being sort of "gimmicky" (Tho the idea comes originally from the book of Acts)\\

Home-made spurious relics, just like in the Middle Ages before the Reformation.
---Cluny on 1/7/11

//I imagine the guillotine will in fact be the next one used against those who won't bow to anti-christ.// kathr

when one dies, you can only harvest a few organs because most have failed. in a decapitated body (especially a healthy body) ALL organs including skin and other stuff can be harvested.

there is big money in organ harvesting.

God or mammon?...the field is ready for the harvest...selah.
---aka on 1/6/11

Correction to my last post, I meant to say //don't believe it was inherently UN scriptural.//

(Anointing Oil is scriptural, but not MAGIC..nor does it need to come from TBN!)
I DO agree about the prayer cloths being sort of "gimmicky" (Tho the idea comes originally from the book of Acts)

However, when I was undergoing chemo for cancer, several people gave me "prayer cloths". I didn't say, "Oh, I don't need that GIMMICK". I just said "Thank You".
---Donna66 on 1/6/11

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Im not even Catholic and that sounds like a wonderful thing to do.

I wish they did this in my church.
---CraigA on 1/6/11

donna66, I just had another thought here too. The Anointed prayer cloth???..the magical cloth, or that Mazola corn oil TBN sends as the anointing oil of the Holy Spirit.

It's all the same gimmicky stuff.

We don't need gimmicks to understand God's forgiveness. We NEED Sound teaching.

---kathr4453 on 1/6/11

Kath4453-- I definitely agree with you. And our Pastor teaches that, to be sure! He gives very little credit to "feelings". As you say, any mature Christian needs to understand that faith, not feelings, is the basis of our Christian life.

But not all in the church are mature Christians. And this was a departure from anything we usually do. For some, who were probably stoically struggling with with their feelings of not being forgiven, it might have been helpful.

It was moving to many. And I don't agree that it was inherently scriptural.
---Donna66 on 1/6/11

Reba-- On second, thought...I should apologize to you. You had valid ideas. It wasn't just you I was reacting to, but the chorus of nay-sayers who rush to criticize without access to any facts. I was wrong to take it so personally.
---Donna66 on 1/6/11

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Reba-- // I never intended to say that what the church was doing was wrong.//
Oh, I think you did.

Of course, you don't know the congregation, what they believe or what they have been taught. Nor were you there to hear the teaching that went with it, or see how it was received, so how could you know?

Still, you are entitled to your opinion. And, lucky you, nobody is asking you to take part!.
---Donna66 on 1/5/11

shira3877-- Exactly.Some people who know the truth of Christ's redemption, still have trouble "feeling"
---Donna66 on 1/5/11

Wouldn't a wise pastor then preach that FAITH has nothing to do with FEELINGS.

This idea possibly for new baby christians just receiving salvation, but a mature Christian ...NO!

It appears many here place their faith in feelings. Faith has nothing to do with feelings.
---kathr4453 on 1/6/11

aka-- My church never passes the "collection plate" for any reason.Not even on Sunday mornings.
And I really did hit my thumb with the hammer.
---Donna66 on 1/5/11

shira3877-- Exactly.Some people who know the truth of Christ's redemption, still have trouble "feeling"
---Donna66 on 1/5/11

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Donna, I've obviously offended you by what I said, & for that I apologize. I never intended to say that what the church was doing was wrong. Only that it'd be easy for some to be led to focus on the wrong thing. And I personally wouldn't feel right doing it myself. Please Forgive me. I apologize for my opinion upsetting you.
---Reba on 1/5/11

Reba, I absolutely LOVED your post and am with you 100%.

Our sins are forgiven past, Present and Future.

aka, interstingly your comment made me think about Constantine, who used the cross as a weapon. I imagine the guillotine will in fact be the next one used against those who won't bow to anti-christ.

The CROSS in scripture Paul is talking about CHRIST CRUCIFIED...and His FINISHED work.

Let's walk in the NEW Man, and refuse to let anyone draw you back into the old man.
---kathr4453 on 1/5/11

I have never been to a service like that but it is symbolic of nailing our sins to the cross. Jesus paid the price for our sin but when are saved some of us hold onto the sin. Some of us can't forgive ourselves.
---shira3877 on 1/5/11

Reba-- If you came to my church you would be welcome to decline. No problem. We never insist on anything (but maybe good manners).

It was a REMINDER for us of what Jesus HAS done. Strictly SYMBOLIC.(It's been a few years ago we did this)

None of us was stupid enough to think that OUR nailing a piece of paper to a cross accomplished anything! Our pastor would never allow that misinterpretation. Are you against having a cross in, or on, a church?

I don't know about others, but it's laughable to me to imagine anyone in my small church would "worship" ANY MERE OBJECT. You might be wise not to jump to conclusions about a church of which you know absolutely nothing.
---Donna66 on 1/5/11

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\\If Jesus had been beheaded rather than crucified, would we worship a guillotine?
---kathr4453 on 1/4/11\\

Since the guillotine was invented only in the 18th century, it's not very likely.

OTOH, I know NOBODY who worships a cross, and what's more, you don't either, even if you only think you do.
---Cluny on 1/5/11

worship a guillotine? for a secret many, it is not far-fetched. for a blood thirsty many, it is not far away. for a separate few, it is inevitable.
---aka on 1/4/11

eloy is right. kitsch.

i betcha' the "love" offerings made the coffers quite heavy that evening.

(donna, hitting your thumb with a hammer. that was a funny comment)
---aka on 1/4/11

Scripture tells us

Christ made peace through the Blood of the Cross. I also know that wood can't bleed.

If Jesus had been beheaded rather than crucified, would we worship a guillotine?
---kathr4453 on 1/4/11

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//It sounds like the unspoken need for liturgy and ceremonial and symbol.

But this is what happens when you reject the liturgy, ceremonial, and symbol that have come down to us from the Apostles and substitute modern traditions and precepts of men.//

Same thing...different ritual. :)
---Rod4Him on 1/4/11

Doing things like that could easily become the focal point rather than Jesus, who actually takes our sins away. Any time we replace God the Father, God the Son or God the Holy Spirit with an object we can see, touch or feel, it's easy for the human mind & heart to start trusting the object rather than God. We should never put any value in the wooden cross but put all the power & glory in the ONE crucified on the cross. Jesus took our sins onto Himself & was crucified so for someone to nail their sins to the cross is like saying what Jesus did on Calvary's hill wasn't enough. I'm sorry but that would not be something I'd feel right doing.
---Reba on 1/4/11

Cluny--- No, I think this would become less meaningful if repeated on a regular basis. Hopefully it left a lasting impression (as it did for me)and I can repeat it mentally if ever I doubt my sins are forgiven (which rarely
---Donna66 on 1/4/11

For those who worry about "gossips"...if we were to do it again, I'd suggest to people that if they worried about it, they could use some kind of "code" word, meaningful to them, that only God would understand.

I used the name of a person nobody in the church knew.
But I believe the pastor removed the papers and, knowing him, he probably didn't even look! I liked the suggestion made by somebody, of burning them.
---Donna66 on 1/4/11

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---John on 1/4/11

It sounds like the unspoken need for liturgy and ceremonial and symbol.

But this is what happens when you reject the liturgy, ceremonial, and symbol that have come down to us from the Apostles and substitute modern traditions and precepts of men.
---Cluny on 1/4/11

Christ was indeed nailed to the cross. But that's not all.
Col 2:13-14 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses,
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross,
---Donna66 on 1/3/11

Yes, we did this at my Church one time (I can't remember the occasion, Good Friday or New Years). It's a good thing the pastor didn't ask us to write "all"our sins, as that could have been time consuming! We were asked to write down any sin that keeps coming to our mind for which we've had trouble accepting God's forgiveness. (or something like that).
The lights were dimmed, there was a time of private prayer, then one by one, silently ,people approached the cross, picked up a hammer and a nail, and nailed their paper to a cross erected for that purpose.

The sound of the hammer hitting the cross in that dim and silent church was very moving for many people. I had tears in my eyes...even BEFORE I hit my thumb with the hammer!
---Donna on 1/2/11

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Sounds like a boring circus theatre, rather than the House of Prayer.
---Eloy on 1/2/11

I just came by this today, and forgot I asked this in 2006.

Wasn't it our OLD MAN who was nailed to the Cross with Christ.

To me the cross represents a place where Christ died, and in death took my sin that was laid on Him, .

My sins were never nailed to a cross/piece of wood to begin with.
---kathr4453 on 1/1/11

As long as its illustrative, to drive a point home, the idea would work. But not as a repetitive practice.
---faraicis on 12/31/10

As a ministry leader at Celebrate Recovery I am using this illustration New Years Eve and I can't think of a better way to start the New Year than nailing your past to the cross and surrendering your hurts, habits and hang ups to Jesus
---Bob on 12/29/10

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A somewhat singular story. At a Gary Woods (he is an evangelist) meeting. Everyone was asked to write the name of someone who was lost on a piece of paper and hand it in. My wife and I did so. Gary then prayed over this stack of names. Within six months the persons' name we wrote down received the Lord Jesus Christ in a most dramatic convert. Praise the Lord, thank you Jesus for what you have done.
---mima on 2/15/08

In my godly opinion: I believe your sins should be between you and God. Just because we have too many gossipers in the churches of today. Always looking for something juicy to talk about to make themselves look good. So, all I can say is, on this question. To be very careful if you do not want your dirty laundry on the 6:30 news.
---catherine on 2/15/08

I suppose that would be preferred over airing them over the internet.
When you do that, your sins will be forever floating in cyberspace.

The Bible says when we confess and repent of our sins, God is faithful and just to forgive us. Jesus Christ is no longer on the Cross.
Trusting in man not to lose your sins, written on papers, is placing your trust in man and adding more works to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
---Cindy on 2/15/08

No, but it's a bit over the top isn't it? I understand the weak condition of people's faith that they need a sign to be full.
The sign we are supposed to recieve is born of discipline in rejecting sin, that when we master new territory in our soul we recieve confirmation from the Holy Spirit.
God responding to our faith causes our faith to increase thereby making it harder to sin against him, making us more like Jesus.

This is God's plan for your life.
---Pharisee on 2/15/08

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This practice is pointless if you don't repent of the sins you write down.
---Matthew on 5/14/07

It sounds like a pretty cool illustration to me. Since that is what partaking of communion is to symbolize the giving of Christ for our sins. It also symbolizes the spirit strengthening our bodies for service.
---Jared on 5/13/07

One word - Cult.
---Helen_5378 on 5/13/07

Never heard of it. But it sounds like an interesting way of doing things - but not during Mass. Personally, I would prefer another unusual but less invasive method - on one occassion we wrote down our sins on a peice of paper, folded it up and burned it in fire. This way there is less risk that someone cleaning up the cross might recognise someone else's handwriting. But again, not during Mass.
---lorra8574 on 5/12/07

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This is working it up in the flesh;
similar to bringing in replicas of the Ark, tallits, and anything else to build a golden calf. Sprinkling EVOO all over the tallits, walking around on them, rolling around in them. We don't need props.
---Cindy on 5/11/07

This is a lot of bull and I think mature and discerning christians should not take part in this type service. What kind of churches are allowing leaders like this, over God's people! Tsk,tsk,tsk! Another thing: they don't make enough paper for us to rightfully be able to do this. We sin everyday all day, in our thoughts, attitudes, sins of omissions. Too many ways to keep track of. Oh we could write some of them down but not all. No way. I would not even attempt this.
---Robyn on 5/11/07

Hum>>>I don't really have any thoughts on this. I don't think I go for it.
---catherine on 5/11/07

Oh my, what next. That is just a big baloney. Confess your sins to the Father in Jesus' name.
---Helen_5378 on 5/11/07

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I have seen this done numerous times. However, our faith does not rest in whether we nail our sins to a cross or not. Our faith rests in the fact that Jesus became sin with our sin and nailed it all.
---Linda on 9/7/06

I have heard nailing your sins to the cross but not literaly with a hammer and nails. I haven't heard of writing your sins down. I would stick with the old fashioned way, that Jesus taught, confess our sins to him, and ask for forgiveness. whatever happened to that?
---Rebecca_D on 9/7/06

I have been able to find enough paper!!!!
---mima on 9/5/06

Thanks for your thoughts. Those were my thoughts too. It seems as though we are loosing ground and going backward.
---kathr4453 on 9/5/06

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This sounds like some sort of symbolic way to teach how Jesus died for our sins.
However, we sould all confess our sins before partaking in Holy Communion.
James 5:16 tells us to confess our sins to one another.
---dana on 9/5/06

I guess symbolically someone is merely making sure one nails their sin on the cross as a reminder that they are forgiven, and those that are about to take communion know that their heart should be right before partaking symbollically of Christs Blood and his body in rememberance of him. Just another teaching Aid I suppose!
---Carla5754 on 9/5/06

Helen is right ... there is no need to do this. I suppose that there is some symbolism there. But I wonder whether anyone could be sure that the pieces of paper were no tead by men after the servie (say the pastor or elders) If that were possible it makes it worse than condfessing to a priest in the RCC, at least he is sworn to confidentiality
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/5/06

I can see such a thing taking place as a illustrated sermon but not on a regular/ongoing basis.
There was a question asked here recently about someone who could not forgive themself even though God had. This type of illustrated sermon could be useful in bring home the point that our sins are blotted out by the blood of Jesus sacrifice.
---Bruce5656 on 9/5/06

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I have heard of a church, kind of doing this, but instead of sins, they wrote down prayer requests. I guess its all symbolic. But why would I nail my requests or sins to a cross, when I can fall to my knees and give them to Jesus Himself.
---bethie on 9/5/06

Jesus nailed my sins to the cross already. I realize it is only a symbol, but tell me what good does it do to nail your sins to a cross? All you need is an old fashion altar to talk to God. Before communion, we should go to a brother that we have wronged and hug them and say I am sorry, then go to the altar.
---shira_9639 on 9/5/06

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