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Can Christians be obese or are we called to a higher standard?

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Hi, I forgot to tell Christina that my surgery will most likely be in late September or early October, man I'm scared but dealing with it. Thank you sooo much for your prayers, bless you! :)
---Mary on 7/10/11

Hi, thank you Christina and Donna, God bless you both dear sisters. :) I do appreciate the prayers very much. And thank you Donna--I didn't know what the steroids were for--but they're definitely worth it. :) I drink a lot of OJ and try to eat healthy too. :) Love you guys, Mary
---Mary on 7/9/11

this has nothing to do with obesity but when my daughter was dying with cancer, I carried her shopping in her wheel chair. A lady came up to me and ask "is your little boy sick?" My daughter was 41 and female. Some people don't care what they say to others. my daughter said "I am a woman and I have cancer."
---shira3877 on 7/8/11

Mary-- The side effects of the steroids, in this case, are much less difficult than the chemo side-effects they prevent. (one reason chemo used to be so terrible, was because of un-stoppable nausea and vomiting. Thanks to steroids this is no longer the case)

Don't worry about your weight at this point. This is NOT the time to try to lose weight! (And nobody is going to say, " look at that fat, bald woman with cancer!").

Eat healthy. You NEED good nutrition to heal. If you gain some weight, so be it. When you have healed from surgery, that is the time to think about your weight.
---Donna66 on 7/8/11

Mary, do you have a date scheduled for your surgery? I'd like to keep you in prayer. From previous posts I know this is very difficult for you, and on different levels. I just wish to encourage you again to seek God all the more and allow Him to be your comfort and strength. Wishing you many blessings
---Christina on 7/8/11

I'm kind of worried now, in my chemotherapy every week they put in a steroid which does 2 unpleasant things: causes swelling AND increases my appetite! Not a good thing in my case lol! I'm going to have to work harder to keep from gaining more weight and in fact, lose before my surgery. I don't want to go into surgery overweight.
---Mary on 7/8/11

Losing weight is a very tough situation to be in. Very hard to lose weight and even harder to keep it off. Once we become so fat,sometimes people just give up and live with the fat. The fat is disgusting to look at but I guess obese people, just learn to live with it. They have an illness just like any other illness. With God's help,courage and self-discipline an obese person can leave those other people(excess weight) behind. It is torment for the person who has to lose the weight. We(smaller people) should be kind and show love and concern to these people. Because they are really in a very bad place. Losing weight is long term suffering. To give up foods we love is akin to going to being in the depths of hell.
---Robyn on 7/7/11

I am fat and happy and healthy. I don't cause illness in others. I may cause a snide remark or two, though. I don't know the bible well enough to quote something wonderful. Just remember - YOU may one day become fat, unhappy and unhealthy.
---ilse on 7/7/11

Rhonda ...seldom have something positive. Are you an SDA?

not sda - don't serve christian brands of men

preaching pretty things and lawlessness to The Father in Heaven and His Laws ...I would prefer to be judged by the worlds christians as mean and negative ...or unsaved going to hell as many "positive upbeat" christians have condemned me to on this blog and FOLLOW Gods Truth than to live for the world its pagan christian traditions and ITS jesus

I JUDGE obese people??? I NEVER implied that - interesting how so many deliberately TWIST Holy Scripture to continue to live without temperance
---Rhonda on 7/7/11

Rhonda, I don't see much of you on line, but have heard you speak for a long time now, and seldom have something positive. Oh you say Christians obey God. I believe every single believer knows that. Are you an SDA? Many of them speak of the law very often to support Saturday Sabbath. I'm not condemning you if you are, for I don't know your heart.
---Mark_V. on 7/7/11

I hear Rhonda and others talk bad about obese, and I'm sure it does not stop there with just obese. In fact when I hear Rhonda, there really is nothing good in any Christians

yes I understand Mark the flowery speaking false christians who would rather preach lawlessness "in false love" than practice OBEYING IN GODS LOVE

easy to SEE your misunderstanding by following your false ministers when you DENY Holy Scripture

regardless ...even medical science understands OBESITY and those who are overweight CAUSE more sickness and disease than those who are not

where does Holy Scripture PRAISE the slothful? oh nevermind flowery preaching always SELLS better than Gods Truth
---Rhonda on 7/6/11

1Sa 16:7b for the LORD seeth not as man seeth for man looketh on the outward appearance but the LORD looketh on the heart.
---Donna66 on 7/4/11

Thank you, Donna.. This is one of my favorite verses.

We spend way too much time criticizing what others look like and not what is in their heart.
---NurseRobert on 7/5/11

The HIGHER standard is to NOT judge on the basis of looks.

1Sa 16:7b for the LORD seeth not as man seeth for man looketh on the outward appearance but the LORD looketh on the heart.
---Donna66 on 7/4/11

I believe we are called to a higher standard of not judging whether Christians can be obese, or any of a number of other things. When I'm looking at someone else, many times I will not have my eyes on the Lord. Rather, I ought to have the Lord search my own heart and attitudes towards others. I'm just thinking, what if someone is 400 lbs, becomes saved, their sins are forgiven . If their obesity is sin, does God instantly remove all the excess weight with the cleansing of that persons sin?
---Christina on 7/4/11

I hear Rhonda and others talk bad about obese, and I'm sure it does not stop there with just obese. In fact when I hear Rhonda, there really is nothing good in any Christians, sounds like a few others on line have the same problem. All I can conclude is that these people are not Christians themselves or else they would not speak against Christians.
Second, I have not read in Scripture where we are given a passage that tells us how much we should weigth or how smart we should be or what race we should belong to.
The theme of the Bible is Christ, and how He died for us, to forgive us for the debt we owed for rebelling against God. It is not about how fat you are to enter the kingdom of God. But whether you are born again of the Spirit.
---Mark_V. on 7/4/11

True Christians practice temperance in ALL things ...very hard to understand seeing modern counterfeit christians follow their false ministers that the OT has been "thrown out" so naturally they would dismiss Gen 1:26 ...strange because it essentially is restated in all of 1Corin 3 the question is are you a HOLY temple pleasing to God or are you following the lusts of life eating, drinking, and carelessly slothful ...practicing these wicked ways to excess? one cannot practice temperance and be overweight ...its not about being a "higher standard" as to understand by honoring your body YOU honor Gods way of life
---Rhonda on 7/3/11

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Christians can be old,ugly,fat,skinny. Rich,poor,mean,evil,pure,chaste,devilish.Successful,ignorant,bullish,sweet,kind,humble. Every evil known to man and still be saved. Jesus blood cleanses,protects and forgives when we become born again. That can never be taken away from us. I hope you get my point and never have to ask such a silly question again. But your question is valid. We all have to mature at some point.
---Robyn on 7/2/11

Self-control in the Holy Spirit is good for controlling what we eat, and for not arguing while we are relating in marriage, and for not complaining, etc. It is a multi-tasker for loving ourselves and others.

One guy was blimpo on the way. He got a stomach stapling. The doctor first sent him to a session for telling about the procedure. Of four hundred or so people, he was the lightest. Others, he said, could find ways to get chocolate, ice cream, etc. into the stuff they ate so they could still keep puffing up, even after a procedure. That does not sound genetic, but like a deliberate choice. Physical genes don't control spiritual character and choices, I would say.
---Bill_willa6989 on 7/2/11

Amen, Nurse Robert.
Why is it anyone's business.

For what other physical condition can you so readily demean people in public? Would you say the same uncomplimentary things about a person with acne? Or bad teeth?

Some people have problems with obesity because of steroid treatment or other therapeutic drugs. Often heredity plays a part.

Supposedly "compassionate" Christians can be very cruel about this particular "sin" of "gluttony" (even if gluttony IS the cause). I wonder how many people are discouraged from seeking Christ by what they hear Christians say about the "obese".
---Donna66 on 7/1/11

I don't see any difference in being obese than doing too much of any other thing. Long years ago when I smoked, I had a fat girl tell me smoking was bad for me. I ask her "what is bad for you?" Oh, that was many years ago and she was right, smoking was bad for me.
---shira3877 on 7/1/11

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Can Christians be obese or are we called to a higher standard?
---Macky on 9/12/06

That is a very good question
Isaiah 52:7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace, Romans 10:15 How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

If you are obese you will have a hard time with this

Then again consider this:
1 Timothy 4:8 For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come.
---Francis on 7/1/11

I struggle sometimes in my relationships with obese brothers and sisters. The hardest part for me happens when I hear a leader, who may be obese or have some other weakness, telling others they need to do better and "try harder." I know it is not easy to overcome many different issues, including obesity. I guess the answer most often comes back to sincere prayer for a struggling friend as well as for myself that I would always treat others with love, respect, patience, and as much understanding as I can get. While I can't help but be distracted by obesity in others, I admit my inner life is far from exemplary in the eyes of God. I pray to be more kind and helpful and less critical.It's easy to love those at least trying to change.
---Learner/Seeker on 7/1/11

I would call into question the weight and activities of the people here who say that it is okay to be obese (fat)
---drew on 2/26/10

I would call into question why its any of yours - or any of ours - business.

God looks at what is in your heart. Go read 1 Samuel 16:5-6.
---NurseRobert on 2/28/10

What do you do to help someone overcome obesity? (Other than preach at/lecture them, I mean) Or do you avoid them because you consider them "unattractive" and don't want to be associated with them.
---Donna66 on 2/28/10
At our singles group meetings some of us try to help by bringing healthy snacks like fruit and veggie trays instead of high fat desserts. Not causing others to stumble.
---obewan on 2/28/10

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What do you do to help someone overcome obesity? (Other than preach at/lecture them, I mean) Or do you avoid them because you consider them "unattractive" and don't want to be associated with them.
---Donna66 on 2/28/10

Sometimes we're doing our darndest and are still overweight, cut us some slack please, we're not all wretched sinners because we're overweight, thanks :)
---Mary on 2/28/10

It is not a sin as long as the person is not overeating. Overeating which leads to obesity is a sin just like drunkenness or alcoholism.

The leader of a Baptist singles Bible fellowship I used to attend used to worry about my attendance at a "liberal" church where many lean people see no problem with drinking just one glass of wine with a fine dinner.

Well, I have seen him eat 5 pieces of fried chicken and 3 pieces of pie and cake in one sitting.

At 350lbs he had a massive heart attack and had to step down from ministry so I lost a fine Friday night activity.

It killed Jerry Falwel!
---obewan on 2/27/10

Obesity is lack of self-control caring for overindulgence of food - SIN of gluttony per scripture

many christians duped by false religious leaders to JUST love Christ sins they continuously commit to themselves or others are all forgiven

in essence "sinner" is bad cuz they don't say Christ on their lips and "christian" is good cuz Christ falls off their lips

religion teaches salvation is freedom to continue to live as one always lived sinning enjoying pleasures of life in name of Christ

Christ says many who call out his name are none of his ...True Christians know our bodies are not ours we are bought with a price 1Cor 6:19-20 ...if weakness is food causing obesity we seek God to overcome
---Rhonda on 2/27/10

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I would call into question the weight and activities of the people here who say that it is okay to be obese (fat) for reasons other than medical. I find myself trying to justify my sin all of the time, also.
---drew on 2/26/10

1 Corinthians 6:19 says our body should be a temple of God.

Well, I'm a mega-church.
---Lisa_Brown on 10/17/08

Being obese has nothing to do with what is in a person' heart. It is our attitude and love towards Christ that matters. I may eat a bit more and gain a few pounds as I age but I will never compromise my love for Christ. Fat people love Christ!!!
---Robyn on 9/2/07

No - Christians can not be obese. You will hear all types of excuses from Christians why they are obse - but none of them have any vaid merit. Based on Bibe, 1 Corinthians 3:16 and 6:19, our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit. You can read in the OT how God gave detailed instructions on how we are to treat the temple!
---wivv on 9/1/07

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Yes look at most our Pastors on Sunday & TV pastors. It is a sin others it is a thyroid or med. problem.They should try to hold themselves to a higher standard but what do we do w/Pastors? We invite them out to eat, have them over to eat, bake them pies, cakes, we feed them out of love and I think a lot of them dont want to be rude and take a piece, well it catches up to us especially the older we get and a lot of Pastors sit a lot in their study and read not a lot of working out.
---Jeanne on 11/15/06

One may have sinned to become obese but once obese it is not necessary to keep gluttonizing to stay that way.
Many obese people are not gluttons but are very sedentary.
What does the Bible say about those who do not move (assuming they are not paralyzed)?
---Robert on 10/29/06

Mrs. Morgan, your posts are very clear and I agree. There definitely needs to be more teaching on modesty in some church women's clothes that are too revealing and can cause men to stumble. I don't get the ministers who don't want women to wear pants and no makeup, and don't want to. Hey if the barn needs painting, paint it.
---RJ on 10/29/06

RJ, It's really sad that some churches are so fixed on things like makeup, women wearing plain(non-worldly pant's), etc. Yet they ignore the rampant sinning that is going on in their churches,like gossip, fornication, etc. God's True people always follow the lead of the Holy Spirit, not man. My minister would never say a person is in sin if they reach over for a "extra biscuit", but if the lie,steal, cuss,etc. walk in darkness, he will warn them! (Matthew 23:24-28) God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/29/06

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(II.) RJ, I wanted to clarify my statement,when I said : "It's really sad that some churches are so fixed on things like women wearing plain(non-worldly pant's)...", I meant that those churches say that it is wrong for women to wear plain old slacks (plain non-offensive jeans), Now, Some churches allow women wear "hip huggers"(tight fitting jeans)and excessively revealing clothing, this isn't right too! I just wanted to make that clear!. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/29/06

Years ago I attended an International Worship Symposium and remember attending a seminar that was led by a woman who was obese. She was dressed to the 9's, good makeup, manicured nails, married to one of the symposium's leaders. God can use anyone no matter what their size is. I use to attend a church that was very legalistic about weight to the point where some overweight ministers were advised to step down because of it! Ridiculous! There are more important things than what the scales say.
---RJ on 10/28/06

What kind of standard do you mean, God's holy Standard, or man's? Many of full-figured men and women are sanctified, holy, who am I to judge them? That is foolishness, idleness. I've been around some family members that have spoken idle words about people, I just don't even respond to them, all I can say is GOD HELP THEM! It's totally ungodly to behave like that, totally worldly. God's people are not to talk like, act like, or reason like the world, period. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/28/06

Grace: I had gastric bypass surgery to alleviate my obesity. Sometimes that is the last resort.
---Madison1101 on 10/28/06

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So how does one overcome being obese? If you've tried diet and exercise and done what you should do and are still overweight what then?

But what if you can't do these things? What if exercise is so hard you can't walk around the block without pain to your knee, hip or heart? What if you are hungry all the time? Or if you eat becasue of emotional distress.

How about realistic solutions for people- any ideas?
---grace3869 on 10/28/06

Bless you Sue! :) I appreciate that; how are you doing tonight (10/21, if you still see this--lol!)? I'm doing good; just still thirsty from sharing a pizza and can't drink enough water tonight--agh! Hope you're blessed; Mary
---Mary on 10/21/06

It is very wrong for people to talk about "fat people". It usually puts them on a totally different level from so-called "normal thin people". A lot of it can be a medical condition. We are not to judge, and realise that God looks on the heart not the body.
---Helen_5378 on 10/8/06

Mary: HI! and thank you so much for your thoughts and prayers. You are also in my prayers. God Bless YOU!
---sue on 10/7/06

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Drug abouse is an inherited desease also, so the next time you see a junky, dont judge.
---sue on 10/7/06

I have Lupus. Does anyone know what Lupus does to a body? You get so worn out just doing the everyday that you can't comprehend going out and doing any form of exersise. To a person with Lupus, her best friend is the bed (sleep as much as you can) and the enemy is the Sun, and heat (summer is hell)you swell up with exsess water, on top of the weight that you don't have the energy to work off.So, the next time you see someone you think is fat, maybe you should think again- they may just be sick.
---sally on 10/5/06

Obesity is not always purely due to overindulgence of eating/it can be inherited,or due to metabolic metabolism, or sickness we should not JUDGE by appearance, but what comes from the heart and mouth Obese christians are not less " standard" than "skinny ones"..Thanks be to God He looks on the heart, not our size.
---karin on 10/3/06

Hi Sue; congratulations on kicking heroin!! :) You are in my prayers, dear. I am a recovering alcoholic and it's a daily fight to win (some days are easier though); God bless you and I'll fight for you in prayer. God bless; Mary
---Mary on 9/29/06

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Compulsive overeating is an addictive behavior, as are gambling and shopping. The problem is that obesity stays with a person long after they change their behavior. For many, they could diet for years and not make a dent in the appearance. Or, they could diet and relapse as many do. If a person quits gambling they have not sign on their chest saying they gambled. But if an overeater stops overeating, they still have their fat on their bodies telling people they overate.
---Madison1101 on 9/29/06

I believe that being obese is the same as being addicted to drugs or any other bad habit. Not good, and room for improvement. I'm an X heroin addict and it is a struggle every day right now but I thank God I'm improving with His help.
---sue on 9/29/06

Lydia - Never give up because there is hope. Jesus took all of your problems on the Cross. Ask Him to take it all away from you now and He will.
---Helen_5378 on 9/15/06

Unlike in the time of the holocost we live a differant life. We add growthhormones to our animals , we have desk jobs and computers . I am overwieght and my husband is not. I eat way less then him and really active but I am still overwieght. I choose organic when I can. I have had kids so my body is in the mommy mode. I can't lose wieght because I was made to be able to feed my children though the tough times. We eat foods all year long not seasonal. We just are not made to live in this time!
---mommywithplenty on 9/15/06

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I had counseling before my surgery. They gave me all the facts. But even now, I have to deal with my head. Obesity is more than your reflection in the mirror, it's a reflection of your mind. Just like a messy house, or having 30 cats. Depression has to be dealt with, too.
---Shiela on 9/15/06

I need to have surgery now to remove skin from stomach. I can't do that until I lose what I've gained back and get portions under control. I am 37 years old. Old habits are hard to break. I have went to counseling. Family tells me I'm moody, no more big smiles,jokes that I used before to take attention off my weight. Alot of adjustments to make with bypass. Doesn't happen overnight.
---Shiela on 9/15/06

Everyone who is obese knows whether they are obese because of gluttony or a health issue which prevents them losing weight. The first group can choose to do something about it. The second group cannot without medical intervention and, even then, it might not help. The majority who have answered this are not condemning or being self-righteous but a few overweight people do seem to wish to justify their size. Are they the ones who do not wish to try to lose weight because it might mean eating less?
---f.f. on 9/15/06

Susie, I once thought like that too. But then I heard someone speak on this subject. As an example he used the Holocaust. When you look at the pictures, there weren't any overweight people. They were skin and bones because they didn't get enough to eat. People who eat less than skinny people yet remain overweight are still eating more than their body requires. It's a sad fact. I don't like it one bit but it's still the truth. There are very, very few exceptions.
---DoryLory on 9/15/06

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Now the self-righteous are getting on the health kick bandwagon. Being overweight is not a sin. However, overeating is a sin. I know many people who are overweight who eat less than some skinny people I know. When the food becomes your god, then it is a sin!
---Susie on 9/14/06

I use to keep a strict routine to keep my weight down and I found it such a burden and gave up. I have added on a stone and half and I have learned to accept that if God gave me what I have, then I have to accept. I am fit, but not slim like others. Now, I dont care what others think. Its what you think that matters most. If your happy with what you got, forget about what others think. They are the ones with a problem. Enjoy life and praise God your alive and happy.
---jana on 9/14/06

Ones outward appearance has absolutely nothing to do with one walk with Christ. We are called to accepting and acknowledging the finished work of Christ.
---joseph on 9/14/06

I also struggle with weight issues & appreciate the kindness & understanding extended in this blog. I see gluttony as a type of bondage from the enemy ... not totally unlike the bondage the Israelites experienced in Egypt. Just as Lord delivered them from their enemies, I believe He also wants to deliver us. I believe God has the answer ... if we faint not (Galatians 6:9) & I believe one key is diligence. If we would not get distracted but continually seek Him for the answer He would help us overcome.
---DoryLory on 9/13/06

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I think it would depend on why someone is obese. I do not agree with WIVV. There are medical reasons why some people just cannot lose weight and such people must feel very intimidated - to say the least - when people treat them as greedly gluttons. I agree that most weight problems are food related though and people need help to get into healthy eating, both in what and how much they eat.
---M.P. on 9/12/06

I did extensive research in graduate school on the problem of obesity in our society. It is a socio-economic problem in America, not just a sin problem.
Once a person becomes obese, they can spend years trying to lose the weight, and then regain it after slipping with their food program.
Since I am morbidly obese, and have just had gastric bypass surgery two weeks ago, I feel confident that I know what it is like to be judged by people like some of the bloggers here.
---Madison1101 on 9/12/06

I think that is a shame on us to look at peoples' bodies and decide if they are Christianet or not! Can a tall person, a short person, a red-head, a whatever color of skin a Christian?
---Annie on 9/12/06

There are certainly obese Christians.

It seems that gluttony is the only one of the Seven Deadly Sins that's socially acceptable in evangelical churches. If you don't believe me, just attend any parish pot-luck or dinner on the grounds.
---Jack on 9/12/06

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#2 In the Spirit, I am fit, free and able to soar, but as long as I am confined in this disfigured tent, I will have to be satisfied with letting my Spirit soar.
---Debbie on 9/12/06

#1 I praise God that He looks at our heart and not our flesh. I am disfigured because of a serious injury and I am over weight. I am what the New Creation life inside of me tells me I am. I am not my body. Many many times, I have been starred down because of the disfiguration. I have often thought and prayed, I wish they knew and understood the me that they could not see rather the body that they can see.
---Debbie on 9/12/06

Can Christians be skinny?
---Annie on 9/12/06

#2. only a few answered on behalf that it was wrong and they kicked her out real quick by jumping all over her. A great bunch of Christians. Kathr and Katie gave good advice on the weight problem. Sometimes it is not the fault of the person. And many times it is. In my case it is my fault. I am doing the best I can with my drinking and will conquer this through Christ. It will happen.
---Lydia on 9/12/06

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We do judge the obese. Employers judge them at job interviews, on the job, and others are judged on the street. Employers hire the thinner candidate, usually. Consider them healthier and more productive. Able to climb stairs, fit in an airplane seat, etc. Not just Christians who have problem, entire country. It's epidemic in schools along with diabetes. It starts with us helping/praying for our families.
---R.A. on 9/12/06

Mackey, you are not going to get much help. Many things Christians do is ok with them. I find that support and help from others will not come from answering. I want so much to quick drinking and I was told it is ok to drink a few. But if it bothers me to not drink. Easy for someone to say that when it is not them that struggle. Christ was not included in any of their help. Did they say, we will pray for you or trust in the Lord. Or we can do all things through Christ?
---Lydia on 9/12/06

We are called to a higher standard. A standard of perfect holiness which I haven't seen anyone achieve down here except Jesus. But we should strive for it. Being obese is not only gambling with our health and well being but it is a poor example. These people need help and prayer, not neglect and judgement. None of them want to be that way so lets try to help them.
---john on 9/12/06

It's important to take care of our bodies to the best of our ability. Obesity is often a sign of gluttony and apathy, which is of course not what God desires from any of us. However, weight gain can also be a type of defense mechanism for those in pain, or a medical problem. It is important that we don't prejudge those with weight issues. It is not an easy road to travel. Help those who are asking for help. Pray for those who don't want help.
---Katie on 9/12/06

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Our physical bodies are not perfect bodies, and fell when Adam&Eve sinned. When we become Born again, we are not perfect in our physical bodies.Many people have inherited genes that would cause them to be obese.To judge everyone as though ALL were gluttons is so wrong.
Is it a sin to be too tall/short,or one leg longer/shorter than the other? Is there a perfect hair color?
are all women 36-24-36. all men 6'3".
Some babies are obese,due to diabetes. There are many reasons one can be obese.
---kathr4453 on 9/12/06

I have a friend who is obese and I know she is a fine christian living a good testimony except for her weight. To me, it is just as bad as smoking or anything else that interferes with your health.
---shira_9639 on 9/12/06

We are called to Jesus and not any standard. The only reason if not medical that a person becomes obese in the first place is that habits get created to fill a need in the heart that only God can fill.

Christians can be overtaken by any type of sin they allow to slide by and excuse. Personally I'd rather be fat and surrendered to God in my heart, (there's hope for change then), then thin and taking offense at other people's sin.
---Pharisee on 9/12/06

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