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Can The Pope Have A Girlfriend

Is the Pope allowed to have a girlfriend?

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Although I was raised Catholic and went through catechism (spelling?), I dont know as to the official line on the pope being allowed to marry. Since according to Catholics he is the "vicar of Christ" and God on earth, or God Himself veiled in flesh(at least the old Catholic teachings), it would seem inappropriate for God to have a girlfriend/wife. :-)
---Todd1 on 5/22/08

The difference is the hypocrisy level. Other churches do not insist on vows of chastity when they have either no intention of keeping them, or a convenient 'get out' in that they can sin all week and then go to confession and communion and be 'right' with God. Thus the Catholic Church is a condemning church because it treats lightly the body of Christ (the common Christian body which is Jesus). They pretend to be better more holy. Their rules are ridiculous in the first place.
---frances008 on 5/22/08

Helen ... in past days, many of them did ... thus the were many "nephews" of the Pope being given jobs. What they did with the "nieces", I don't know.
But I don't think it would be fair to say it is only Roman Catholics who have illicit girlfriends (or even boyfriends) becasue the same thing happens in all denominatons
---alan8869_of_UK on 5/22/08

My point i guess is that we need to look at what we are doing wrong (but not acting on our own in a rebellious nature). And look at what the other group is doing right.
Too often Catholics and Protestants look for the bad in the other, instead of looking at the positives. If we are not prepared to give up what we think is important we could at least respect each other more as Christians and work together to oppose abortion, wars and so on. Two voices is more than twice as powerful as one voice.
---Ed on 5/23/07

Ed: I agree both Protestants and Catholics have departed from the Apostolic Faith declared by Scripture. I believe God calls us back to pure worship when He says "Come out of Her My people" Elijah called people back to true worship where Judaism had been mixed with paganism. God did not accept such practice then so why is it OK now?
---TS on 5/23/07

A daft question. Of course he can and probably does. men are carnal and devilish. the pope is a man too. you read about bishops, cardinals and everyone else having flings on the side all the time. then forgiving themselves. in the garden, God said it is not good for man to be alone and created Eve. he then commanded them to go forth and multiply. anyone that says they must live celibate lives denies the very Christ they proclaim to worship. satan laughs at peoples ignorance and rebellion to God's laws.
---ashley on 5/23/07


I have listened and studied views like yours many times over and hard.
Why is it there are fundamentalist Catholics who hold similar positions as fundamentalist Protestants. Catholics who often view Protestants as rebels, heretics and who destroy the unity of God's Church.
I believe both Catholics and Protestants have strayed, in one way or another from the truth.
At the end of the day it is all about Love. Faith is important. But it is all about Love (just read the gospels and Paul).
---Ed on 5/22/07

2. TS

Don't forget the huge changes in the Catholic Church under John 23, The Second Vatican Council and John Paul II. There are traditional Catholics who cannot stand what has happened.
Billy Graham and John Paul II had more than respect for one another in later years. They called each other brother.
And don't forget the tremendous ascetic tradition (as first practised by Jesus and John the Baptist, and before) which has always been strong in Catholicsm.
---Ed on 5/22/07

1 Timothy 5:19 "Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses."

The Pope and every Bishop and Archbishop are Elders. The Web is a source of information, but it does not count as a "witness". If you have seen a pope or bishop do something wrong, and you have two others that have also seen it, then approach with your testimony - first to the Pope or bishop. Otherwise you are engaging in idle gossip and no good can come of it.
---lorra8574 on 5/22/07

1 Timothy 5:19 "Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses."

The Pope and every Bishop and Archbishop are Elders. The Web is a source of information, but it does not count as a "witness". If you have seen a pope or bishop do something wrong, and you have two others that have also seen it, then approach with your testimony - first to the Pope or bishop. Otherwise you are engaging in idle gossip and no good can come of it.
---lorra8574 on 5/22/07

Ed: The differences are large. Yet I do not believe the differences used to be so large. Someone departed slowly over centuries away from Apostolic teachings. I know my history and have seen the documented progression from Christian to a mix of Traditions that make her so different from the Christ that I read about. "Falling Away" was gradual. God says "Come out of Her MY People" Meaning good God fearing Christians still in her are being called out for salvation. Your take on this?
---TS on 5/22/07

At the end of the day the cross-over between Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants is very large. We can lie in the comfort of our own religions and throw stones at the other groups - but at the end of the day Jesus says that the two greatest commandments are to Love God and neighbour. Paul says that faith without Love is useless (Corinthians).
At the end of the day that is what Christianity is all about: Love (and not how much faith we have or how right we believe we are). Love: first. Faith: second.
---Ed on 5/22/07

No, the poor pope is not allowed to have a girlfriend, although God's Word says that he can have a wife. He might have a girlfriend hidden away in the Vatican - how are we to know?
---Helen_5378 on 5/16/07

margaretij..I agree with you, we are so busy judging others. Let bygones be bygones, there are also millions of beautiful catholics in this world and millions of ugly christians. Let us not judge others, lets pray instead. Too many throwing stones on this blog. Remove the board from your eyes first before removing the dust from the others eyes. Let us learn to forgive just as Jesus said. Let God be judge friends
---jana on 9/23/06

Christian writes: Very true.***
Sadly so. There has been hundreds of priests were falsely accused of sexual abuse by these greedy people. What's really sad is that they don't even get a back page blurb when they're exonerated, nevermind a front page story. And I'm sure there are some Protestant pastors out there who have fallen prey to these opportunists as well.
---augua9846 on 9/22/06

Augusta: "There's alot of greedy people cashing in on the sins of the Catholic Church right now and we have to be careful about judging because of this (not saying you were)."
Very true.
---christina on 9/22/06

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"Augusta,...does not negate the atrocities which are well documented by numerous sources."
This case was well documented too, Christina, and it turned out to be a huge lie. I believe there probably was abuse going on at the laundries, but I don't believe it was on the conspiracy level that we've been led to believe JMHO. There's alot of greedy people cashing in on the sins of the Catholic Church right now and we have to be careful about judging because of this (not saying you were).
---augusta on 9/22/06

Augusta, I had not heard that, it's interesting, yet does not negate the atrocities which are well documented by numerous sources. A sad situation indeed.
---christina on 9/22/06

Daphn8897 - Does that mean that God's Word being read from the mouth of satan himself will not return to Him void?
---Helen_5378 on 9/22/06

Daphnlk8897 - I do see things through spiritual eyes now that I am born-again and filled with the Holy Spirit. I no longer see things as the world sees them because I have been born-again of God's Holy Spirit. Everything looks different now. What is your problem with that I wonder?
---Helen_5378 on 9/21/06

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mima, The Lord has rescued me from much... but I do not presume to "see things through spiritual eyes" as does Helen. I know that any clue I have comes from the Lord and, in that, I only see in part. His Word warns us not to think too highly of ourselves. Though there is error in the RCC, there is also truth. Whether read from the Latin Vulgate or an English translation such as the KJV - God's word will not come back void.
---daphn8897 on 9/21/06

I just read on a UK news site that the family of Kathy O'Beirne, one of the women who claimed to be sexually abused in the infamous Magdalen Laundries, held a news conference saying she made the whole thing up. The family's claims have also been substaniated by other people who knew O'Beirne, and the nuns themselves who have said all along she was never there. So don't waste your money on her book: "Kathy's Story: The True Story of a Childhood Hell Inside Ireland's Magdalen Laundries."
---augusta on 9/21/06

The reason for Helens outbursts are known only to her & Our Blessed Lord & saviour who teaches Love.If she is to really follow in His foot steps she will eventually notice the difference.God be with you Helen.Peace.
---Emcee on 9/20/06

It strikes me that the subject in this blog is tantamount to gossip. Any answers I have seen are neither helpful nor spiritually enlightening.
There are at least 6 verses in Proverbs warning against gossip and in 2Corinthians 12:20 Paul includes gossip in a list of sins a Christian should never indulge in. Shame on you.
---Margaretj on 9/20/06

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Helen ... Many Protestant and non-Catholic pastors do that too. Are they corrupt and evil?
I don't think these words should be reserved only for the RCC.
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/20/06

Alan8869ofUK - Yes they are Alan because they are all believing and teaching something that is wrong.
---Helen_5378 on 9/20/06

Helen .. I s every priest corrupt, every Pope corrupt?
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/19/06

MIMA::When you condemn something it is being judgemental-& to add fuel to the fire is worse,Two wrongs don't make a right.Pity.
---Emcee on 9/19/06

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When a person has been rescued from the jaws of hell such as Helen has been they will always be persecuted and told they are crazy. We do not condemn individual members of the Catholic Church rather we condemn the RCC and it's unchristian teachings. I stand with Helen and her statements about the RCC.
---mima on 9/19/06

John - I see things through spiritual eyes. The whole of the RCC is extremely evil, from corrupt popes and priests, and the whole of what they teach and practice. There is nothing good in it. Those who participate do it willingly.
---Helen_5378 on 9/18/06

Shocked - Bless you and have a good day.
---Helen_5378 on 9/18/06

Jesus's judgement before Pontius Pilate was accused of many things--He remained silent-Yet the CC was His church & the doctrines that go with it.Remember it is humans who commit & are called to give an account of their actions.People who use their Relief valves to let off emotional steam do so at their own Risk in the final analysis,This applies to any who are affilliated to the multitudinous denominations.
---Emcee on 9/18/06

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Helen. I didn't say there was no evil in the RCC. I just don't think it's right for you to include the current pope in it. I can name you some Baptists who have done some pretty nasty things so does that make Baptists bad and should I go including the whole Baptist religion to be evil because of it?
---john on 9/18/06

Helen, to call the RCC as the most evil or whatever makes you so judgemental that I would not want to take any of your advice at all.

You need to see a psychiatrist.
---Shocked on 9/18/06

I agree with you, Alan. There is a lot of sin and absolute crimes that are committed by leaders of other denominations. I tried to start a blog about a recent crime committed by a pastor, but it was never published. It would be sad if others judged all Christians by the actions of some abusing their authority. We need to avoid judging an entire denomination by the acts of certain individuals in it.
---AlwaysOn on 9/18/06

John - I don't have a basement, so I've got nowhere to hide anyone. But the Vatican - my it is big.
---Helen_5378 on 9/17/06

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It is surely wrong to judge the Pope and the RCC on the basis of their real or imagined sexual sins. Many non-Catholic Christians, including the leaders of denominations, sin in the same ways.
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/17/06

John - Look at the history of the catholic church. There were times when nuns had babies and the corpses of the little ones were found. That there were/are prostitutes living at the Vatican has also been told. We should not be blind to the truth. RCC is the most evil religion this world has ever had. It's the worst because it does have a "form of godliness", but "it denies the power thereof".
---Helen_5378 on 9/17/06

what pope? yes, sinners are allowed to have girlfriends.
---Eloy on 9/16/06

Why do people who want to know about this or that topic of Roman Catholicism ask their questions on a pop-evangelical blog?
Would I ask a deaf man to judge a concerto? Or a pig to judge poetry? Or a vegetarian to tell me how to cook a roast?
Seems to me if you want to know something about Roman Catholicism, the obvious place to ask would be either a Roman Catholic site or a Roman Catholic person.
---Jack on 9/16/06

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"he may have a girlfriend hidden away in the Vatican, how would we know"?
The same as "You may have a boyfriend hidden in your basement, how would we know"?
I think we don't know either answer so we probably don't need an opinion on it.
---john on 9/16/06

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