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May I begin a series of questions concerning the teachings of Christ In Matthew 5? I look forward to insight & epiphanies you share. What are your thoughts on:
Matthew 5:3 Spiritually properous are the destitute and helpless in the realm of the spirit, because theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

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 ---Ryan on 9/21/06
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I'm with Donna! Don't understand your question, and it seems to me that you seriously distorted this verse anyway. Was that on purpose?
---Crystal on 2/13/08

Ryan, I had to read your statement quite a few times. "Spiritually prosperous are the destitute and helpless in the realm of the spirit?" God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love and sound mind. That doesn't sound like destitute and helpless. Call me stupid, but I'm not understanding your statement. The Poor in Spirit are those who know their need for Christ. Those who hunger and thirst for righteousness and go after it.
---Donna9759 on 4/23/07

very profitable to us as a most respected D,Th !!!!!!!!!!!
---DR/PASTOR_RIVIERE_J. on 10/13/06

Mat5:3 HAPPY ARE THE POOR IN SPIRIT..happy are those who were spiritually empty, and whom the truth has just been revealed to..FOR THEIRS IS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN....
for with their newfound faith, surely have Christ and heaven in their hearts. My own interpretation, what do you think. Look forward to yours
---jana on 9/23/06

Pharisee, are you suggesting that man is not helpless in the realm of the spirit? Of course we are, to say otherwise is to suggest we don't need Christ. Man must realize how destitute and helpless he is in the realm of the spirit before he can acknowledge he needs a saviour.
---Ryan on 9/23/06

Helpless in the realm of the spirit isn't the same as poor in spirit.
Were an adequate vessel for Spirit, anyone who sins in blatant unbelief will prove that to you in no time, they actually boast about their feirocity.
The one who is poor in these kinds of spirits has no investment in their desires. He is born again to inherit the Kingdom of God. Emphasis on God for spirit and purpose.
---Pharisee on 9/22/06

#2 Donna9759, It amazes me you are judging this man on one of his translations, I have read several of Wuest's books and studies and he is a very analytical and tourough man I would suggest you look into him a little before you cast him aside.
---Ryan on 9/22/06

#1 Donna9759, my first post was a little critical, I apologize if you were offended. What I was commenting on was the 'hardness' of your attitude. Mr. Wuest, in his translation, is bringing out the richness & fullness of the Greek language. By him using the word 'destitute' instead of 'poor' did not change the meaning of the scripture at all. Destitiute is a more accurate word to use in this scripture because man is destitute in the spirit without God.
---Ryan on 9/22/06

Donna9759, I was unaware you knew the exact words Jesus used. You must be unique among all the peoples on the Earth, in that, you have knowledge of what words Christ used in His teachings. Reading expanded translations is helpful to gain deeper insight into scripture because we all know the English language fails to have the depth and clarity of the Greek language.
---Ryan on 9/22/06

I'm with Crystal and everyone else on this one. Ryan, when Jesus taught he didn't use words like destitute and helpless so this man you're quoting is incorrect.
Jesus always moved in the positive realm. That's the problem with people today who want to expound on biblical truths, they mess it up when they don't move in the positive realm like Jesus did. If I were you, I'd read the Bible Knowledge Commentary if you want a pure, unadulterated translation of these scriptures.
---Donna9759 on 9/22/06

The destitute and helpless are those who really do have a need and have come to the end of their rope and cry out to Jesus to help them and save them. They are the ones who know that they just will not make it without Jesus. The proud who think they have no need will receive nothing from the Lord. The kingdom of God belongs to those who, like little children, cry out to Him to "please help me Lord", and they trust Him just like a little child depends on their earthly Father.
---Helen_5378 on 9/22/06

greetings,.in the story of the pharisee and the publican,one felt rich in spirit,the other poor in spirit,one was self sufficient,the other was teachable and truth seeking.are christians/christianity self sufficient or truth seeking?
---earl on 9/21/06

Ryan.#3. The first requirement is to be "poor in spirit". We must recognize that we are not spiritually self-sufficient; we need the Holy Spirit's life, power, and sustaining grace in order to inherit the kingdom of God.
---Ramon on 9/21/06

Ryan.#2. Matthew 5:3 "Poor in Spirit". The word "blessed" refers to the well-being of those who, because of their relationship to Christ and His Word, recieve God's kingdom, which includes His love, care, salvation and daily presence (Matthew 14:19; Luke 24:50).

There are certain requirements if we wish to recieve the blessings of God kingdom, we must be guided by the ways and values of God revealed in Scripture and not by the ways and values of the World.
---Ramon on 9/21/06

Ryan.Matthew Chs 5-7, commoly called Christ Sermon on the Mount, contain a revelation of God's principle of righteousness by which all Christians are to live through faith in the Son of God (Gal 2:20) and through the power of the indwelling Spirit.

All who belong to the kingdom of God are to have an intense hunger and thirst for the righteousness taught in Christ's sermon (Mat 5:6).
---Ramon on 9/21/06

Donna9759, I am using a New Teatament Expanded translation by Kenneth S. Wuest, a 'Teacher emeritus of New Testament Greek' at the Moody Bible institute. His translation 'uses as many English words to bring out the richness, force & clarity of the Greek text.' I find his translation insightful and thorough so I use it with all my studies. Many problems with bible translations is they attempt to smooth out the language to make it easy to read, unfortunately we loose a lot of meaning because of this.
---Ryan on 9/21/06

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