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Christians Don't Have Unity

Is there a lack of unity among christians, or are too many straying from the truth?

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Where there are people(saved or unsaved) there will be differing opinions,thoughts and interpretations. Only God have all the right and correct answers. But we as Christians need to stick to what we have in common. And that is" to continue to be obedient to Christ and follow his teachings. Learn to love one another. We will be alright. Everything else will not matter. Learning to love God and others is a lifetime process. Not easy my bro/sister.
---Robyn on 7/5/10

In John 17 Jesus prayed for unity among His disciple, which was to be achieved by the learning of the truth from the Holy Spirit and from the words of Jesus. The evidence the church does not know the truth is because there is no unity in the church. Truth is singular and absolute, coming only from the words of Jesus. He said,"If they speak not according to this (His) words then there is NO light in them." We will NEVER find truth in the words of anyone other than Jesus Christ.
---Dennis_d on 2/16/08

Alan of uk:: My friend she is having you on. Hominy is coarse ground corn, usually eaten boiled.or mixed with some veg.She likes Fishing I take it.:-)
---Emcee on 2/15/08

God The Shepherd in HIS wisdom created one Flock One Church Matt16:17-19.This was Good same as in Genesis.But the slippery entwining deciever seeing he would not have a chance thought He would scatter the flock & using Gods word created division disallusionment & enmity of His own Just like fire fighters start a back fire to control the advance of the main Body.Hence Denominations.Truth Marches ON .
---Emcee on 2/15/08

Cindy "Pucker up, Buttercup. Alan, that saying is as old as the hills"
Maybe in the USA, but not in the UK.
The USA is not the only place in the world.
---alan_of_UK on 2/15/08

It all depends on what you define as Christians. Christians are probably never going to agree on everything. But because we do belong to God, us Christians, we still love each other with a spiritual love that flows out of us. Because God loved us enough to save us from everlasting fires of hell, through His Son'e Blood.
---catherine on 2/15/08

Oh goodie! Fortunately for you, Alan, my plane is still on the ground. I have time for a few more!!
Alrighty then.

Pucker up, Buttercup. Alan, that saying is as old as the hills. Although, one can confidently google everything, some items when googled are best seen through God coloured goggles than a google.
---Cindy on 2/15/08

Sounds good, Cindy, but we don't have hominy in the UK, unless it is under another name
But how do yuo get Cheddar cheese in the US ... do you import it from the UK?
Most Cheddar cheese (even that made in the UK) is fake, except in the methods of manufacture, because to be genuine, it should be made in Cheddar, in Somerset.
---alan_of_UK on 2/14/08

MikeM., add hominy to your squash dish while I'm gone.

Squash add Hominy Dish:
2 lbs.zucchini or summer squash
1 large onion,chopped
4 Tbls.butter
1/2 c.water
2 1-lb.cans hominy,drained
2 jalapeno peppers,seeded & chopped
1 & 1/2 c.sour cream
1 tsp.salt
1/2 cheddar cheese,grated
crushed corn chips for topping
---Cindy on 2/14/08

Add Hominy dish (cont.)

Combine squash,onion,butter & water in skillet & cook slowly till tender.

Add remaining ingredients,reserving corn chips & 1 cup of cheese.

Pour into greased 3 qt. casserole dish,top with remaining cheese & sprinkle with crushed corn at 325 degrees for 1 hour.
---Cindy on 2/14/08

In my city there is a corner where on each corner a church of a different denomination sits. On one level this is good. A monolithic church would be a prescription for abuse of authority, history dictates this again and again. Let the 'marketplace' of beliefs bloom, as the Founding Fathers envisioned. You the buyer' must ask Of God, and not be forced by a religion controlled government. Separation of church and state allows freedom or religion to bloom.
---MikeM on 2/14/08

Good Job Leslie.
I Don't "GO ALONG TO GET ALONG" Either...
It is what it is!
If people would stop being 1 verse wonders, they might be able to see more clearly.
---Duane_M on 2/14/08

There is complete unity amoung christians, there is complete disunity amoung psuedo-christians. As a result many are straying from the truth, unable to see it for all the noise telling them where it is.
---dan on 2/14/08

One of the last prayers that Jesus prayed, was Father, let them be one, as you and I are one. This rarely happens, even though it was truly Gods will for it to happen. I think we should strive for the unity of the spirit, and not fall out over the little things. If we believe in the basic truths set forth in scripture, can we not love one another, like we should? Are we not brethren, because we believe?
---Gayla on 2/13/08

It is not that there is a lack of unity among Christians, it's that most Christians are straying from the truth and settling for a lie that is "ear-candy". The Bible talks about this happening in the last days, that many would stray from the faith to accept a lie. The Bible calls this the Apostate Church. We are living in the days of "Cotton Candy", "feel good without being good" Gospel days - NOT TRUE BIBLE days.
---Leslie on 2/13/08

There is lack of unity among Christians but as long as the world stand we will always have Jesus as our Guide and Lord.He is more than able to make His people stand and be accountable for our actions. It only takes a few Christians to keep the Unity.We always work from there. It will come. We have not arrived at perfection,yet.
---Robyn on 2/13/08

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IMHO:The reason for disunity is the variety & many denominations ready to point fingers & assertions.I take this to be a ploy as I call it by the Deceiver.Being Catholic it does no good as is seen from the few blogs. one's voice is lost in the bedlam.At times even a Roman Ampitheater.Each one is responsible for their own FATE & faith regards accountability.Humans most frequently disagree & this is why Jesus speaks of One flock. Guess who started the various flocks claiming "THE TRUE ONE"
---Emcee on 2/12/08

Madison ... yes that is the general rule here, but there are those Christian churches which believe that a "born-again" cannot be subject to those urges, even if they have been in the past, and still think it is not necessary to do the checks.
How foolish!
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/21/06

Alan: My church participates in a KidSafe program. All of our youth workers, anyone working with minors, must have a criminal background check and be trained every three years on child abuse. We also must wear a badge indicating to everyone that we are KidSafe, and cleared to be near the kids, while we are working with the kids.
---Madison1101 on 10/21/06

Christians will never agree on everything.
Other than the essentials, maybe they don't need to.
Looking back over 3 generations, I can see a "falling away". Not more people giving up their faith, but the Bible becoming less central and less thoroughly taught. Christian thought is "fuzzy", feeling-based, tainted by "relativism". Thus many who believe they are "Christian" are not...for they have never learned what Christianity IS!
---Donna2277 on 10/20/06

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Helen ... I was not a victim, thank God. The men did not want me as a boy. The other imcident I knew in my capacity of setting up child protection programmes
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/20/06

Alan8869ofUK - I am really sorry that you had to go and tell all that, and I am very sorry that it happened to you too. There is always something to learn. I hope and pray that you are healed from it now. Bless you.
---Helen_5378 on 10/20/06

Dottie::So, understanding that there are so many denominations--(man made not God made)which one would you chose? or refuse? do you play tic-tac-toe or follow the church with ALL of Gods teachings.You said you have many questions than answers.You said man wants to give his opinion- but what motivates him PRIDE- because he will never admit he is wrong. A satanic Belief & a deadly sin PRIDE.
---Emcee on 10/19/06

Steve, looks like the replies that you got proved that there is a lack of unity. As I have said many times to many people GOD did NOT make denominations, man did. Why? Is it to show their superiority to others? Is it to give their personal opinion, instead of the word of GOD? If I don't like the way you are teaching the Bible, so I will start my own church? Is it because they don't believe that Jesus died for ALL of us? I have more questions then answers, and it saddens me, and I know it saddens GOD.
---Dottie on 10/19/06

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Alan of Uk::Thank you -You are not the only Victim.Children are so vulnerable, & the perpetrators are surely satanically oriented.This happens in both sexes of Creation.
---Emcee on 10/19/06

Helen ... # 3 Those items are facts, so I hope you will now understand what I have been saying.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/19/06

Helen ... # 1 Firstly & sadly, we need to accept that it is possible to infiltrate a "born-again" church, which on this issue may tend to be naive.
I know of one which refused to introduce checking procedures in respect of those working with children, on the grounds that no born again Christian can have those wrong "urges". There is no need for me to tell you what happened ... it obvious otherwide I would not be telling the story.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/19/06

Helen ... # 2 I have been a near victim of a "born again" paedophile. He and another man were running a Bible class, and were full of the need to be born again. Very good at spouting the message.
But one made advances to me, and the other was prosecuted for child abuse offences.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/19/06

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Alan8869ofUK - That depends on what you mean by a Christian church. A Christian church to me is one that has it's members born-again and believing in Jesus Christ. I have only heard of paedophilia in the RCC and they do everything to cover it up.
---Helen_5378 on 10/18/06

Helen ... you have commented on the "side issue" but ghave not answered my question about how you appear to accept paedophiles in a Christian church, but not in the RCC.
Since you believe the RCC to be a cult, you should be less shocked to find paedos there than in a Christian place.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/17/06

Alan8869ofUK - The RCC is the most dangerous cult this world has known. It has a form of godliness, making it appear to seem ok. Until you look into it and see what they really believe. If the Lord shows you, you will be truly horrified. They use Scripture, but it is totally twisted & distorted out of all proportion until it means nothing. It is ridden through & through with idol worship & heresy. It is not of God. The problem is that it has been around so long, so people tend to overlook it's horrors.
---Helen_5378 on 10/17/06

.If you support OSAS false doctrine, nothing is "harmless" about that

That is
1) one of the most inane statements on this blog, and

2) demonstrating the reasons behind the premise of the blogger's question, "Is there a lack of unity among Christians, or are too many straying from the truth?
---JohnT on 10/16/06

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Helen ... # 1 I did not actually challenge your assertion that the RCC is a cult.
What I said was that most denominations are ridden with paedophiles ... that means Christian denominations. Isn't that even worse than than a cult being so ridden?
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/16/06

Helen ... # 2 Actually but it is a side issue on this point, I don't think the RCC is a cult.
The fact that you said it is a cult gives that statement no more validity than if I said the Pentacostals and Baptists are cults.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/16/06

Raine -- Thanks for your compliments. You brightened my day!
---Donna2277 on 10/16/06

Alan8869 of UK - I stated that the RCC is a cult. It is not a denomination. It is an idol worshipper full of heresy.
---Helen_5378 on 10/16/06

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Larry ... Temptation is not a sin.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/15/06

Helen ... "Religion has no power whatsoever to hold anybody back from committing sin. That is why cults like the RCC are ridden with sin laden people"
Most denominations are so ridden.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/15/06

Larry::From what.??The truth?
---Emcee on 10/15/06

Religion has no power whatsoever to hold anybody back from committing sin. That is why cults like the RCC are ridden with sin laden people.
---Helen_5378 on 10/15/06

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Emcee: Is Religion all that is holding you back?
---Larry on 10/14/06

Larry:: Temptation is not a sin
---Emcee on 10/14/06

Emcee: You know just thinking about breaking it means you already have. (..)!
---Larry on 10/14/06

Larry::I thank you,& turn the other cheek.I might mention my religion forbids me to break the 8th commandment.
---Emcee on 10/14/06

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Donna22.., you are a neat lady. There are certain people that I bet have been on here a long time. Seasoned, live moment to moment, in the know, with it. I wake up and can't wait to see what you're saying today.
---Raine on 10/14/06

Emcee: You are trying to make an issue where there is none. Just part of the "Modern Day Speaking in Tongues". Even I can't interpret what you are saying. That happens much on these blogs. It seems many want to find an argument and create dissention, rather than finding the truth. Much like you are doing now.

I think many come here for that reason only.
---Larry on 10/13/06

Larry::So you say I missed the boat?well enlighten me .How can you interpret Gibberish?Hence Its not the H/S speaking.However you say Jesus came with a sword not to bring peace If he did it was to root out false doctrine.The sword was the truth of His word,against those doctrines which are suspect.
---Emcee on 10/13/06

R.A. --Good thought! But I draw the line at tofu. I'll pass on the vegimite, too, thanks. The nice thing is we don't ALL have to be ALIKE...we needn't agree on every point of doctrine, either, to fellowship and thank God. Every one of us has been blessed!
---Donna2277 on 10/13/06

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Do you think we could get this "clan" together for Thanksgiving? Some would be crying in their mashed potatoes, and some would be in the front yard - fist-to-cuffin'. Could we agree on a location. Would we forgo all traditional foods and have tofu. Would we make room at the table for the widow, orphan, and homeless. Would gratitude or platitudes prevail?
---R.A. on 10/13/06

Emcee: Jesus didn't come to bring peace but a sword. We're not to find unity with false doctrine.

I find kathr4453 comment very amusing. You didn't seem to get it.
---Larry on 10/13/06

Kathrn::Let me remind you "A house divided against its self cannot stand".If the two reasons are, as what you say, then is it not Suspect? Words of the HS are always understandable.Otherwise he has no reason to utter them.
---Emcee on 10/12/06

The reason we don't have unity is because of "Modern Day Speaking in Tongues".

1.We blame it on the fact that those who speak it don't understand what they are saying.

2. There are no interpreters.
---kathr4453 on 10/12/06

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Elder -- How should we feel about those who preach 1/2 passages etc.? I guess we should feel sorry for them, since they quote without understanding. They hang on the words of some pastor instead of letting the Bible interpret itself.

It's as the old Indian chief said..."Many clouds, much thunder... no rain".

They do not want to listen. Yet they want ALL to LISTEN to THEM. Hope we can warn others to read the Bible for think and pray about what they read.
---Donna2277 on 10/12/06

Donna how should we feel about those who preach 1/2 passages to make the Scriptures sound like they are teaching an issue that they are not?
How about those that reject whole chapters and passages to do the same?
How should we feel about someone who rejects I Cor 5 that shows a Christian can sin, be destroyed by Satan and still have Salvation?
Or someone who says OSAS is false doctrine yet offers no truthful scripture support?
---Elder on 10/12/06

Donna2277 , If you support OSAS false doctrine, nothing is "harmless" about that Donna2277.
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/11/06

Some people are offended by the truth. Some people are just offended by the attitude of those who claim to know the truth. Either way, they can be lost. We are to be "wise as serpents and harmless as doves" Mat. 10:16
---Donna2277 on 10/11/06

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Darlene_1 , (1.) Jesus said blessed is He that is not offended in Me, not offended of TRUTH. Many are offended by God's Truth. The smart one's listen to the Truth, and receive It, but the other's don't receive the Truth, they feel like people are "preaching to them" and they feel someone is trying to judge them, and that is not the case, no it isn't. Many times one must just live out their testimony before others, rather than "preach" to them....
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/11/06

Darlene_1 (2.)I have noticed that no matter what the personality of a preacher is, if they are "from God" , they speak the Truth, and many get "offended" by It, well so be it! True godly meekness "isn't beating around the bush in regard to the Word", souls can perish when that is done. The Holy Spirit will guide a person regarding each different personality that one is dealing with, He knows how to direct God's people to minister to a person ....
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/11/06

Darlene_1 (3.) ......according to their personality and reasoning. But some just can't be reasoned with, and God's people must pray for them and move one, period. Some just don't like the Truth, don't want It. I like ministers that speak the Truth plainly while using the Discipline of the Spirit. The minister's who don't do this come off as "wishy washy" and/or False, the hour is much too late for that.
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/11/06

Mrs Morgan, I think we didn't view the question in the same light. They ask about unity ,I answered and gave the only way there can ever be unity,through love. Yes there are people who have no truth but I don't believe being preachy,hard nosed, or coming on like a bulldozer to them will change a thing. You put your foot down it may land on their backside and send them so far off they'll never hear truth. Love opens a door of communication showing reason for hope through meekness/fear 1Peter3:15.
---Darlene_1 on 10/11/06

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Mrs Morgan, I think we didn't view the question in the same light. They ask about unity ,I answered and gave the only way there can ever be unity,through love. Yes there are people who have no truth but I don't believe being preachy,hard nosed, or coming on like a bulldozer to them will change a thing. You put your foot down it may land on their backside and send them so far off they'll never hear truth. Love opens a door of communication showing reason for hope through meekness/fear 1Peter3:15.
---Darlene_1 on 10/11/06

Darlene_1 , (I.)Yes God's love is very important, but we must be careful that we just don't sit like a bump on a log, when false doctrine and ungodly behavior is present among Christians. Paul was very clear on this. We don't judge, God's Truth does, if people refuse the Truth, they are not children of God, now that is Bible. We are to love sinners/backsliders, but not their ways, fellowshipping with those who are disobedient to God , is like endorsing what they are doing....
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/11/06

Darlene_1 , (II.) ...and that don't help the situation, another thing that doesn't help is when God's people don't put their foot down in regard to His Truth, so people assume that one endorses just any old thing. God has alway had only a FEW obedient people, those that believe in "full-time yielding", not half-stepping, that's just the way it is, He said for His obedient to come out from among those that are rebellious, God changeth not....
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/11/06

Darlene_1,(III.) One must give the disobedient and/or the confused the Truth then live out their testimony before them ,pray for them,then move on , don't fellowship with them while they are resistant to God's Word, there is only one Truth, but man and the devil put out distorted versions of It, this is why we need the Holy Ghost to guide us! It's dangerous when Christian's don't allow themselves to be led by Him, He will lead us into all Truth, only if we don't resist Him. God Bless.
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/11/06

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Christina, right, true godly repentance is very important. Some believe that if one breaks free of God's holiness, that God will still force His righteousness on that one, but that is just not consistent with God's Truth. God Bless.
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/11/06

Mrs M. I responded to you already but it has not been posted, so will try again. I agree with your statement that all are not truly repentant. Christ died for us ALL, but not all accept Him and walk in the Spirit.
---Christina on 10/11/06

Mrs M., Christ died for us all, but it is the truly repentant that recieve that salvation.
My comments had more to do with whether or not God imputes His righteousness to us/sinners. I see, however, that my 5 posts were not posted here in the order in which I submitted them. May or may not lead to some confusion.
---christina on 10/10/06

Unity among Christians will never come through agreement on doctrine. Unity only comes from loving with Agape love, regardless of how someone believes. We are commanded to love oneanother and when Christians learn to love with no strings attached, then they will have unity in Christ,and in the Spirit,for God is love and they that loveth knoweth God. That translates into showing love with respect,honor,and care. Letting God alone judge each persons walk.
---Darlene_1 on 10/10/06

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Emcee, Many here speak freely, if you have something to tell me, you need to speak it plainly, otherwise what is the point of your posting to me? It's like speaking to the air.
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/10/06

Mrs M::I dont think the cap- was made for you but yet you picked it up & had to try it on for size, wrong fit; so you picked up on a badge not the same, but not much different.
---Emcee on 10/10/06

Robert::With that kind of upbringing all I can say"Many are called but few are chosen"sad, So you blame your failing on the CC's wickedness. Math16 :17-19 dosent mean a thing, although it is spoken by your maker Jesus. His chosen & appointed apostles were all wicked men. Guess you were not a fisherman,but just a little fish that got beached.
---Emcee on 10/10/06

Robert, It's those basic essentials, basic oracles of God's Truth, that God's true people are united in, what ever we disagree on, won't be the basic fundamentals of the deity of Christ, Salvation, Sin, Righteousness,God's Grace, etc. Some minister's I listen too, even if I don't agree with everything they say, I agree on the "basic essentials of their teaching", that is what helps lost souls. When those basic essentials are corrupted, the whole doctrine is corrupted. God Bless.
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/10/06

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(I.)God's Truth pulls His true people together, on the other hand His Truth Separates too, many of God people no longer can hold a conversation with their own family members, former friends. The Truth is Sharp and Separates the Wheat from the Tares(weeds) Jesus said: "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against....
---Mrs._Morgan on 10/10/06

Mrs. Morgan, You are always talking about the Holy Ghost, putting more emphasis there than Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit does not draw attention to Himself, but actually points to Jesus. Do you understand that? Many charismatics have made the Holy Spirit a diety. This is cultish! BEWARE!
This will be the spirit of anti-christ coming with great signs and wonders!
---kathr4453 on 10/10/06

MRs. Morgan, While I will not totally agree with everything you say, YOU absolutely have the best handle on this subject here.

The TRUTH is that such disunity is symptomatic of the devils hand.


One may not pick and choose what one wishes to accept and reject. Understand guys, that you must all come to "a unity of faith" as Paul states categorically, and that is why prophets and apostles are essential.

God bless
---Robert on 10/10/06

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