Did Jesus Pray For The World
After reading John 17:9- "I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine." Can we say that Jesus does not pray for the world?
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---mima on 10/5/06
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pkay said it!
World = the wicked: (John 17:9)
Joh 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
Joh 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
John 16:18 etc. (continued)
---trey on 10/15/07|
pkay said it!
World = All the family of God:
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
2Cor. 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the WORLD unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them, and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
To understand which WORLD Christ is speaking of you must rightly divide the word.
---trey on 10/15/07|
For God so loved the WORLD, that He GAVE. If he died for everyone's sins, wouldn't it be rational to say he prays for everyone? In John 17, I always believed that Jesus was expressing to the Father that He did the Father's will and prayed for them that are thine, as you told me to Father. He was telling the Father He fulfilled His commission and did what the Father willed him to do....pray for those that are thine.
---Donna9759 on 10/14/07|
Bruce, Jesus does intercede for us forever: His righteousness and blood intercede for us in our sinfulness and depravity, but some people mistake that for Jesus kneeling at God's throne and praying to Him for us, whereas, God Himself loves us, and Jesus is way more exalted than that depiction. So you are right.
---Okebaram on 10/7/06|
I wonder if it is entirely accurate to say that Jesus does not pray for anyone today:
1 John 2:1, "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"
I am glad he is interceeding on my behalf.
---Bruce5656 on 10/6/06|
1 Mima, Jesus doesn't currently pray for anyone. (John 16:26-27).
2 Note Bruce's emphasis on *particular*
There is a time to pray for the world and ther is a time to pray for specific loved ones, and a time to pray specifically for Christian disciples (especially if they were going to face the challenge of martyrdom).
---Okebaram on 10/6/06|
I agree with Earl.
Pkay assuming that your question was sincere. I will share with you the definition I have been given to embrace. The world is the principle & system of things that originated through, is based on, & is dictated by sensual perceptions of those outwardly perceive adornments that entice & seduce the senses. Included in the term are those who adhere to this system & set their course in life according to it's principles, due to & based on their sense knowledge dependency.
---Josef on 10/6/06|
greetings,upon olivet over looking jerusalem in the moon lit night in modern phrase as jesus spoke to the 11 apostles in his last group prayer.jesus said;i do pray for these chosen men.and i pray for them not as i would pray for the world,but as for those whom i have chosen out of the world to represent me to the world after i have returned to your work,....jesus taught us to pray for the kingdom to come and for all mankind to look into their own heart to discover he is knocking at the door there in
---earl on 10/5/06|
Question is, what is the world??
---pkay on 10/5/06|
No we cannot.
What we can say is that in that particular prayer, Jesus did not pray for the world. Just as in other prayers he did not pray for his disciples for example.
---Bruce5656 on 10/5/06|